Rebuilding an 18x24 garage

[fishon1213]

Hello all, for the past 15 months I have been remodeling a house for my large family. After 3k in dumpsters, and new foundation for an addition, framing, plumbing, electric, hvac, drywall, etc. We have an awesome 6 bedroom house. Now onto the garage....

The garage is roughly 18x24 with low ceilings and fire damage, time for it to go....


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[captain14]

Welcome to GJ.

Tell us your Plans for the new garage. We like lots of pictures as the work progresses.

 

[dfiler2]

Welcome, looks like you have a good start.

 

[fishon1213]

I plan on keeping the 18x24 dimensions because the slab is in good shape. It will have 9' walls, 12/4 standard trusses, 60A service, pretty basic because of budget. I am struggling with a 16' door on an 18' wall though, I am worried about racking, but I will find a solution.

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[matt_i]

Simpson has 10 gage steel strong-walls now. That might solve your issue if you could buy the correct size. The alternative that I have in mind would be tube-steel columns that bolt or weld to a steel tube or I-beam header. The rigidity of the connections would keep the opening square. The tricky part, though, is getting it all connected back to wood again.

https://www.strongtie.com/products/...l-strong-wall/shearwalls/standard-application

 

[WeekendWarrior83]

Looks like you did a tear down by hand... I might be doing the same this summer. How long did that take and how did you get the roof trusses down?

 

[fishon1213]

About 8 hours start to finish, me and one other person. We removed the shingles, knocked sheathing off from the inside, cut rafters and gables with reciprocating saw, dropped the walls. Pulling it down with a truck doesn't really save time, it just makes more ground cleanup.

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[MrBalll]

Off to a good start I'd say.
You planning to make it a multi car garage or just a work on one vehicle at a time shop?

 

[landlord30]

You'll kick yourself down the road that you didn't make it bigger.

 

[fishon1213]

I ordered my materials yesterday, everything except for siding was just over 4k. 18' wide is undesirable but I need to use the existing slab to stay within budget. I am putting a 16x8 door on but realistically will only ever put one vehicle in the garage. I tossed around the idea of a 10x8 door offset with a man door but it would cost about the same, other than the header. As far as the header for the 16x8 door I plan on using double 1 3/4x11 7/8x17 lvl's with 4 jack studs on each side...plus one king stud leaves me room for my anchor before the end wall stud.

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[bobemmerich]

Welcome to the GJ!
18x24 is plenty. I restored a 66 Mustang in a 13x20,(cellar/rafter space was my friend for storage of the larger parts) so you'll have plenty of room.

 

[fishon1213]

Materials arrived this morning. Today we got the walls framed and anchored. Tomorrow hopefully trusses will be up and maybe start sheathing.

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[fishon1213]

So about those trusses...I got 11 4/12 commons for 15 bucks each, weathered but perfectly fine. Other than they don't quite match up to my 2 4/12 end frame trusses. The with the bottom cord flush the top cord is off by about 3/4". Do I just shim under my end trusses to make this work?

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[Norcal]

You have paperwork to go with those trusses? Unless no inspections they want drawings /calculations for them, hiring a engineer would get get expensive, might consider talking to the inspector before continuing and avoiding a potential costly rework or engineering.

 

[fishon1213]

You have paperwork to go with those trusses? Unless no inspections they want drawings /calculations for them, hiring a engineer would get get expensive, might consider talking to the inspector before continuing and avoiding a potential costly rework or engineering.

Yes I have paperwork for the trusses. Yes I have inspections, been dealing with the inspector for quite some time, so we're familiar.

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[1/2 Cup]

fishon1213 looking great...

Regards

 

[Pathfinders]

Very nice. Keep up the progress and photos

 

[dfiler2]

I would shim on the top plate of your end walls, I would make it a solid piece, in other words cover the entire top plate. You might have to get creative with two different thickness's of plywood. That is assuming you are doing a 12" overhang by just running the roof sheathing long. If you were doing a 24" using lookouts, the rafter may be too high. Here's what i mean by using "lookouts".

 

[John in OH]

I would shim on the top plate of your end walls, I would make it a solid piece, in other words cover the entire top plate. You might have to get creative with two different thickness's of plywood. That is assuming you are doing a 12" overhang by just running the roof sheathing long. If you were doing a 24" using lookouts, the rafter may be too high.

I agree, put your shims at the top. If you start shimming the bottom chord you'll mess up the alignment at the eves. You could, as dfiler2 suggests, use various thicknesses of plywood strips, or you could rip a set of long tapered shims from another 2x.

 

[manwithtools]

I'd screw a 2x4 beside the top cord of the end truss (probably on the inside), that would eliminate the need to rip a long taper.

Great progress. I don't see any framed openings for the windows, are you framing those later?

 

[fishon1213]

I'm doing window openings as we speak, then I'll sheath the walls and put up trusses.
I have a 36x36 and 36x48 slider, any suggestions for height off floor with 9 foot ceilings?

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[Charlie51]

Usually, the top of the windows align with the top of the entrance door. Lay that out and stand inside the garage to see if the height is OK from that vantage point.

 

[readhead]

At least 45" if you plan on benches underneath.

 

[fishon1213]

Day 2...menards delivery ***** so short story we had to wait on the right materials. Anyways door and window headers and openings done, walls sheathed. It was a bit windy to put trusses up. Tomorrow hopefully housewrap, windows and doors. Tuesday trusses.

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[fishon1213]

Btw, I'm an amateur but corner to corner is within 1/8"...win

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[Hilltopmasonry]

Btw, I'm an amateur but corner to corner is within 1/8"...win

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Sometimes you get lucky! Haha

Garage is looking good! Keep the pictures coming


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[captain14]

Nice. Did you put all the sheathing up today by yourself or how many helpers?

Hope you have dry weather for the duration.

Pictures are always welcome

 

[The Cobbler]

yes to shim the top chord.
looking good!

 

[fishon1213]

Nice. Did you put all the sheathing up today by yourself or how many helpers?

Hope you have dry weather for the duration.

Pictures are always welcome

One helper, possible rain tonight, hopefully have it weathered in by Thursday

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[Norcal]

Yes I have paperwork for the trusses. Yes I have inspections, been dealing with the inspector for quite some time, so we're familiar.

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Good to hear, not something I would want to deal during a framing inspection.

 

[fishon1213]

Day 3...housewrap and windows, took it easy today. It was just me today so it was difficult to get the housewrap flat with the wind.
I Also figured the angle and cut some 2x's to frame the gable overhang, not exactly sure how I'm going about that yet.
Started lifting trusses up. The tails on my clearance trusses are quite warped so getting the fascia straight will be a challenge.
And some pictures of the whole house so you all know what I'm up against...it's a 2200 square foot ranch, 6 bedrooms. The higher side to the west is new from foundation up, the rest is 98% new. Been at it for 15 months...I'm tired, lol.

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[fishon1213]

Day 4...trusses raised and set, tails cut, rat runs, fascia board and gable overhang. Tomorrow, sheet the roof.

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[Dr Stan]

What is your wall height? I'm having to raise my walls 4 ft since I was being "economical" when building. If you can go higher than 8ft now is the time to do so.

 

[fishon1213]

What is your wall height? I'm having to raise my walls 4 ft since I was being "economical" when building. If you can go higher than 8ft now is the time to do so.

Roughly 9', I used 104 5/8" precut studs.

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[captain14]

If you have been at it For 15 months how often do you take a day off
To rest your body?

Good looking so far.

 

[2nr]

Nice build,it's looking like a workshop that many would be happy to have.

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[fishon1213]

Day 5...only a half day today, roof sheathing kicked my ***. It's all done except for the peak, I'm just burned out, I'll get at 'er tomorrow.

...I never take a break, we have six kids lol

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[blair683]

How are your gable overhangs supported?

 

[Rorin67]

Great work and speedy as well. I'm exhausted just thinking about all of the work you've done so quickly. Are the kids old enough to help?

 

[fishon1213]

How are your gable overhangs supported?

Just the sheathing and temporary brace for now. I will be blocking them 24oc.

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