WhiffySpark
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I used a much less sophisticated version to change and fwd motor. Hell anything fwd that I didn't want to tie my rack up on
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I used a much less sophisticated version to change and fwd motor. Hell anything fwd that I didn't want to tie my rack up on
Dr Stan
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I too cast my "vote" with naysayers. I want something much more substantial. Budget wise the only new lifts I could afford were Chinese. Also not my ideal lift.
Luckily I found a virtually unused Nussbaum 2 post asymmetrical German made 7000# lift not too far from me for $900.00 (listed for $1200). It now sits in my shop waiting for me to raise the roof by 4 feet.
Nussbaum was also nice enough to send me a PDF of the installation manual.
Luckily I found a virtually unused Nussbaum 2 post asymmetrical German made 7000# lift not too far from me for $900.00 (listed for $1200). It now sits in my shop waiting for me to raise the roof by 4 feet.
Nussbaum was also nice enough to send me a PDF of the installation manual.
AldeanFan
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Is it the same as this atlas lift?
http://www.atlasautoequipment.com/products/specialty-lifts/psp-6000
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http://www.atlasautoequipment.com/products/specialty-lifts/psp-6000
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Radix2
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I think there is something to be said for a design like this where all of the critical connections are designed and controlled at the factory. Unlike a normal two post, these are designed stable without depending on the concrete fasteners - which rely on craftsmanship at the site.
This brings up ALI certification. This is a good thing to have - an outside test to show the design criteria and industry standards are met. But it is still a limited assurance given that it does not assure against quality issues (bad welds, fasteners,torques,components) or critical installation parameters ( concrete condition and fastening)
My guess is that lift failures occur first from improper usage (loading) and second from improper installation, third from quality flaws and last from design flaws.
..so while ALI certification is a good check, it is a check on only a small subset of risk for an installed lift.
It would be interesting to hear from the ALI on what it would take or how their procedures would change to test one of these, or if there is some criteria that is in the way.
This brings up ALI certification. This is a good thing to have - an outside test to show the design criteria and industry standards are met. But it is still a limited assurance given that it does not assure against quality issues (bad welds, fasteners,torques,components) or critical installation parameters ( concrete condition and fastening)
My guess is that lift failures occur first from improper usage (loading) and second from improper installation, third from quality flaws and last from design flaws.
..so while ALI certification is a good check, it is a check on only a small subset of risk for an installed lift.
It would be interesting to hear from the ALI on what it would take or how their procedures would change to test one of these, or if there is some criteria that is in the way.
lakeroadster
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Testing is only a small piece of ALI Certification. Their website, http://www.autolift.org/ , explains that it also covers:
- Lift models must be tested in accordance with the Program Procedural Guide and in accordance with the performance requirements of the American National Standard “Automotive Lifts – Safety Requirements for Construction, Testing, and Validation” ANSI/ALI ALCTV (current edition).
- All electrically operated vehicle lift models must be listed by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL),in accordance with ANSI/UL 201 entitled “American National Standard for Safety for Garage Equipment”; and for installation in Canada, in accordance with CAN/CSA C22.2 No. 68.
- The lift manufacturer’s authorized production facility must meet quality control requirements that are outlined in the Program Procedural Guide. This is verified by frequent surveillance and plant inspections.
- Manufacturer-provided instructions and manuals, as well as lift operator safety documents, must be comprehensive and conform to the requirements of the Program Procedural Guide.
Since ALI is a 3rd Party Organization the surveillance and plant inspections are as critical as the testing.
Greg Smith Equipment sells a single post lift.
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-6000-lb-Portable-Single-Post-Lift
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lakeroadster
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It's an Atlas..
It's not ALI certified.. As previously discussed there doesn't appear to be any ALI certified single posts.
That being said, if Atlas makes this lift at the same facility as their ALI certified lifts... I'd by it from them instead of a non ALI shop.
That being said... This looks scary as hell to me..
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It looks like the same manufacturer but the one I have is one version newer. The one in the video is probably a MSC-6K the one I have is a MSC-6KLP (LP is for low profile).
The newest version is "Low Profile" with less than 4" drive over clearance, removable ramps, and "double telescoping" lifting pads.
The double telescoping lifting pads are a really nice because the car will lean a little and you can correct that by adjusting the outer ones higher and make the car sit level. Don't get one of these lifts without the adjustable pads.
It also comes with two sets of adapters to lift higher vehicles.
vettex2
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If I already didn't have a lift, I'd buy it w/o any reservation
Here is my set up with the under hoist jack stands. This is with the car at full height and the stands set opposite the column and under the the subframe.
I pushed, pulled, hung on the front and back, rocked it back and forth and literally tried to push the car off the lift. Car does not budge, this is a solid set up, I am very comfortable wrenching and prying on any part of the car.
I pushed, pulled, hung on the front and back, rocked it back and forth and literally tried to push the car off the lift. Car does not budge, this is a solid set up, I am very comfortable wrenching and prying on any part of the car.
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I believe this is an earlier version of the lift.
From what I have learned researching this type of lift there are 3 versions. The Atlas you are referring to I would call version 1, it has built in ramps. Version 2 is configured a little different and has removable ramps. Version 3 (the one I have) is low profile, has removable ramps and double telescoping lifting pads which are very nice.
I think all these lifts are made by the same company in China and the distributors just put their logos on it. Just like most of the 2 and 4 post lifts and other automotive equipment sold here in the US.
http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/ATD-Tools-7440-2-Ton-Tripod-Underhoist-Stand-p/atd-7440-02.htm
I'd feel better with FOUR...That's 4 of these under the vehicle. And I'm speaking as a person who had a car fall on me. I'm lucky I'm here today.
I'd feel better with FOUR...That's 4 of these under the vehicle. And I'm speaking as a person who had a car fall on me. I'm lucky I'm here today.
It's an Atlas..
It's not ALI certified.. As previously discussed there doesn't appear to be any ALI certified single posts.
That being said, if Atlas makes this lift at the same facility as their ALI certified lifts... I'd by it from them instead of a non ALI shop.
That being said... This looks scary as hell to me..
killahog
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Nice lift, I have a 2 post and I do get tired of working around it sometimes.
Radix2
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What is the biggest vehicle you are going to lift?
duwem
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Lots of beams on the floor to trip over...
vettex2
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Ok, put the truck on the lift. Had to use the pad extensions and took a while getting them positioned, lifted the truck just off the wheels and rolled it away from he wall. Lifted it to about half height like if I was going to work on the brakes, the vehicle defiantly rocks and flexes, would not want to do any heavy wrenching. Lifted to full height, defiantly would not get under it, added two jack stands at either end and the stabilized it enough that I was ok being under it however the addition of two more jack stands and placing 4 of them at the corners of the vehicle would be the way to go.
With the vehicle at full height you can easily access any thing under it, nothing in the way to remove the transmission. Drive shaft, exhaust, brake and fuel lines are all easily accessible.
The lift had no problem lifting the weight but you defiantly need to have the vehicle positioned and balanced correctly and use jack stands to stabilize it after you get it to the height you want. The ride up and back down is kind of "white knuckle".
Then I lowered it down and rolled the lift with the truck on it back to its place in the shop and set it down.
With the vehicle at full height you can easily access any thing under it, nothing in the way to remove the transmission. Drive shaft, exhaust, brake and fuel lines are all easily accessible.
The lift had no problem lifting the weight but you defiantly need to have the vehicle positioned and balanced correctly and use jack stands to stabilize it after you get it to the height you want. The ride up and back down is kind of "white knuckle".
Then I lowered it down and rolled the lift with the truck on it back to its place in the shop and set it down.
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Have you advised your insurance company?
lakeroadster
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I am betting the ole 454 sounds pretty sweet through those dual glass packs. 
That's a slick feature.
That's a slick feature.
Z2V
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Nice, but I'll have to pass on that one.
c39er
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Looks kinda scary...
China is making some nice stuff these days.
lakeroadster
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And the man has slots on the Monte Carlo.... nice ride.
Those are two heavy Chevy's for sure.
Now that you've used the lift a bit, are you feeling more comfortable with it?
And the man has slots on the Monte Carlo.... nice ride.
Those are two heavy Chevy's for sure.
Now that you've used the lift a bit, are you feeling more comfortable with it?
I love it. It has exceeded my expectations. It is so much more versatile than a two post lift.
Luv my slots.
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lakeroadster
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Kelly Supercharger's too... Are those 30 year old tires.. or are those still being made?
I had those on a '77 Nova many decades ago.. with Cragar Mach 8 mag's too.
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Kelly Supercharger's too... Are those 30 year old tires.. or are those still being made?
I had those on a '77 Nova many decades ago.. with Cragar Mach 8 mag's too.
I bought those in about 1990. They do not make them anymore, I cannot find them anywhere. I had to stop doing smoky burnouts because I don't want to replace them.
lakeroadster
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One of my favorite memories is walking into a "Super Shops" at the age of 16... wall to wall Kelly Supercharger tires and go fast goodies... and that "new tire smell".
texasprd
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If you have enough room to slide the transmission back the few inches needed to clear the flexplate (or flywheel and clutch for a stick), and its stable - that looks darn good to me!
Count me as a "yes" vote!
I have been using this lift for about 3 months now and I luv it. I could defiantly wrestle a turbo 400 out of that truck.
I have done brake jobs, wheel bearings, exhaust, brake lines, fuel pump in a rusty Alero that I had to take the tank out of, fuel filters, I cannot believe the way having this lift has changed the way I work on cars.
No stability problems.
No problem with the lifting arm getting in the way, actually it is nice for exhaust work because I can set the pipe on it and do not need a stand or other person.
No problem with the legs of the lift getting in the way.
I luv having one side of the car completely clear with no post in the way, I can open the door all the way, get in and out without bumping the post.
And my wife likes the pretty color....how much is that worth?
a52-830
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everything.
the first truck i bought after i got married got approved because the wife loved the clearance lights on top of the cab. ("did you have to pay extra for those?", "no dear, they are standard on a 3/4 ton pickup.")
life is much easier when the other half decides that something is pretty.