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Not a bad deal but Tooldiscounter has a much more complete set for only a few dollars more.
 

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I'm not a big fan of non reversible ratcheting wrenches. If you're looking for your first set, I'd recommend getting reversible ones..

An alternative might be to look at the reversible Dewalts. You can find them on eBay for about $40-$50 for 10 piece sets in both metric and standard. The Dewalts also have an offset which imo makes life easier, like standard combo wrenches.
 
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somebody was bitching about the case in hot deals, too...:rolleyes:
 
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somebody was bitching about the case in hot deals, too...:rolleyes:

I don't see my question as Bitching. I just want to know what it is. A case can range from a cheap plastic holder to a well made robust box. What is it?
 

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You're buying 32 low end chineese tools

You're paying $2.50 a wrench.

You're buying from SEARS

,,,etc
 

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They used to have a case ~5 years ago when I got a set. Probably have switched to China now and ditched the case. They weren't worth it back then, and still aren't right now. Get reversible or double box end instead.
 

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I do not own a ratcheting wrench set yet. I think I want them with articulating heads not solid immovable heads like these. I don't need this tool. I don't have a problem with ordinary wrenches. I have spent a lifetime using ordinary wrenches. Don't see any real advantage to the ratcheting feature. I'm just not lazy enough to think I need a ratchet feature on something with enough room for that wrench to fit. But with articulating heads they will fit odd places that are hard to maneuver the wrench in. Places with low clearance like bolts under the seats in a car.

Now that I think of it I probably only need 2 or 3 sizes. Not a big set.
 

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OP, you're seriously basing the purchase on the case? Sorry dude but that cracks me up. But to answer your question it's pretty cheesy. I'd figure in the cost of an Ernst wrench rack and call it a day.


And disston, you're missing out.


I do not own a ratcheting wrench set yet. I think I want them with articulating heads not solid immovable heads like these. I don't need this tool. I don't have a problem with ordinary wrenches. I have spent a lifetime using ordinary wrenches. Don't see any real advantage to the ratcheting feature. I'm just not lazy enough to think I need a ratchet feature on something with enough room for that wrench to fit. But with articulating heads they will fit odd places that are hard to maneuver the wrench in. Places with low clearance like bolts under the seats in a car.

Now that I think of it I probably only need 2 or 3 sizes. Not a big set.
 

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I do not own a ratcheting wrench set yet. I think I want them with articulating heads not solid immovable heads like these. I don't need this tool. I don't have a problem with ordinary wrenches. I have spent a lifetime using ordinary wrenches. Don't see any real advantage to the ratcheting feature. I'm just not lazy enough to think I need a ratchet feature on something with enough room for that wrench to fit. But with articulating heads they will fit odd places that are hard to maneuver the wrench in. Places with low clearance like bolts under the seats in a car.

Now that I think of it I probably only need 2 or 3 sizes. Not a big set.
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half the time they don't fit, and if they do, then it saves a minute or two per fastener. The other DIY consumers think they need them, so they've invested in these ratchet sets and now have convince others that they are missing the bus LOL these tools are extras after you've got the basics covered they are NOT front line tools by any means.
 

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I got a good deal on the stubby set (7pc) from advanced, think it was 40 bucks or so. Didn't have any stubbys and figured for that minor investment if the ratcheting helped then great, if not, whatever. At least I added a capacity that I didn't have before. Honestly, haven't used them more than once or twice in the last year.
 

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I found a picture on Google for you. This "case" looks like it wastes a lot of space:
 

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I found bigger pictures, front and back, so here it is:
 

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the "case" is a cheesy plastic tray.... not a case. I chatted with sears about it and they said "there is an error in product description." and offered a refund, I said I'd rather have the case, they said we can give you another 10% off, I said I'll take it.

the wrenches are nice, anyway...
 

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If they make the O.P. happy, then they were worth it.
If not, maybe he will stop buying foreign tools and get some wrenches that were hand-forged in the good old U.S. of A. by traditional Amish Backsmiths who refine bog iron using smelting procedures established hundreds or thousands of years ago.
Either way, the bolt still turns...
 

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It's more packaging than case.

I just bought the 20 wrench set and didn't even consider using it for storage.

I like these trays better:

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They are good, I got the same set for the same price from sears on black friday 2 years ago and they have been fine, and as far as the reversible I don't think they are always better I have both and if you have the wrench down in a spot and you need to reverse it you have to pull it out to get to the switch, with the non reversible just flip it around not a big deal. They also have grooves on 1 side of the wrench so once you remember where they have to be to tighten or loosen you don't even have to think about it.
 

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if you have the wrench down in a spot and you need to reverse it you have to pull it out to get to the switch, with the non reversible just flip it around not a big deal.
Really, why cant you flip the direction switch with one hand?:dunno:
 

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.... refine bog iron using smelting procedures established hundreds or thousands of years ago. ....

Actually the Iron Age is only about 3,000 years old and we are still in it in my opinion. Others may disagree.

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half the time they don't fit, and if they do, then it saves a minute or two per fastener. The other DIY consumers think they need them, so they've invested in these ratchet sets and now have convince others that they are missing the bus LOL these tools are extras after you've got the basics covered they are NOT front line tools by any means.

I have bought many trick tools over the years that I thought I needed. I have never used a screw starter screwdriver, and I own several. Oh wait, there is one application of the starter screw screwdriver that I recommend. On the Dodge and Plymouth slant six distributor getting the screw into the distributer to hold the ignition points in place is a nice place to have one of these. But every time I needed it I couldn't find it so I have still never used one.

And disston, you're missing out.

Well, that is a major theme in my life. But this time I don't mind so much.

I collect old junk, old tools, etc. I don't really like to have too much new junk hanging around. I'll probably get a few of these in sizes that I think I can use and if I like them I might then buy a set. I can see how others maybe like this type of wrench but the bottom line for me is "do I really need it?".
 
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If they make the O.P. happy, then they were worth it.
If not, maybe he will stop buying foreign tools and get some wrenches that were hand-forged in the good old U.S. of A. by traditional Amish Backsmiths who refine bog iron using smelting procedures established hundreds or thousands of years ago.
Either way, the bolt still turns...

Al, your post gave me a good laugh! And that alone makes me happy.

T45, I generally appreciate your posts but it seems this really hit a nerve with you! I wish all tools were made in the USA but that is not the world we live in. I like Sears and its employees. They have always treated me fine. I don't like the guy at the helm but that is a long topic. They still carry a lot of good products. I can agree to disagree.

Lxcam: the case is not by far my only consideration. Sorry if my post read that way.

To the other posters who said reversibles or flex heads are better.....Yes! I am well aware as I have used all of those in various brands and sizes. All valid considerations. I do like having the offset on the reversibles or flexheads. Thanks!

I have owned some gear wrenches for a while and am quite satisfied. I have read many a posts on here and many members feel they are a reliable mid grade brand. It is not just my opinion.

My initial thinking is that this set would expand my collection and add stubbies. I would likely sell my duplicates. If this has a nice case that would be a big bonus as I do a lot of my work outside or away from my home base. It is not my only consideration by far.

Plus I am a bit OCD about my tool organization. I would love to find a nice robust compact box wrench case that folds closed. The sheet steel box wrench holders that hang on the wall are fine if you work primarily in one shop. I have some and I take them with me but they don't hold the wrenches in place well enough. You need to be careful they don't fall out.

This is a set of Gearwrenches I have had for over 10 years. Then the brand was owned by Danaher tools. Yes they are made in China. There are a few times I wish they had the 15 degree offset. It has a case that has held up better than I expected.

That deal on Discount Tools is pretty good too for reversibles. Not sure what I am going to do just yet. Thanks. Post other deals you know about.
Thanks!
 

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OP, you're seriously basing the purchase on the case? Sorry dude but that cracks me up. But to answer your question it's pretty cheesy. I'd figure in the cost of an Ernst wrench rack and call it a day.


And disston, you're missing out.

I work out of my truck and space is valuable. Cases/enclosures/bags are one of the first things I look at.
 

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Stop being a greedy cheapskate
Stop buying chineese tools
Stop patronizing ****** businesses
Stop....Expecting perfect copy editing


Pick one :thumbup:

Meh, I'll buy what I want to buy. I don't have $500 just laying around for a set.
 

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Meh, I'll buy what I want to buy. I don't have $500 just laying around for a set.

Absolutely buy what you want to.

My point was these things are so cheap on sale, you shouldn't expect lots of free extras that are high quality as well. You're buying no frills tools.

Think of everything you are getting for $2.50/piece

> tool steel
>machine/polish
>chrome bath
>ractheting mech internals and machined parts
>assembly
>shipping 4000 miles
>delivery to your door by UPS

???????????????

>some kind of rack/case, maybe crappy

???????????????

Isn't that enough?
 

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Every case I have gotten with a GW wrench product has gone in the trash. Not because it was weak/flimsy but because they are always massive and take up waaaaay too much space in my opinion.
 

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Absolutely buy what you want to.

My point was these things are so cheap on sale, you shouldn't expect lots of free extras that are high quality as well. You're buying no frills tools.

Think of everything you are getting for $2.50/piece

> tool steel
>machine/polish
>chrome bath
>ractheting mech internals and machined parts
>assembly
>shipping 4000 miles
>delivery to your door by UPS

???????????????

>some kind of rack/case, maybe crappy

???????????????

Isn't that enough?
I mainly purchase my tools from harbor freight because:

- lifetime warranty
- not $30 per wratchet/socket
- store is a 5 minute drive from me
- don't have to chase down a truck to get a replacement


As a DIYer, driveway mechanic I don't foresee myself purchasing truck tools due to lack of space and funds.
 

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Absolutely buy what you want to.

My point was these things are so cheap on sale, you shouldn't expect lots of free extras that are high quality as well. You're buying no frills tools.

Think of everything you are getting for $2.50/piece

> tool steel
>machine/polish
>chrome bath
>ractheting mech internals and machined parts
>assembly
>shipping 4000 miles
>delivery to your door by UPS

???????????????

>some kind of rack/case, maybe crappy

???????????????

Isn't that enough?

Wow somebody​ woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, there was no reason to be so ignorant to someone who just asked what case they came in, he never once complained about the case or said if it mattered. Nothing worth being an ******* about that's for sure.
 

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I mainly purchase my tools from harbor freight because:

- lifetime warranty
- not $30 per wratchet/socket
- store is a 5 minute drive from me
- don't have to chase down a truck to get a replacement


As a DIYer, driveway mechanic I don't foresee myself purchasing truck tools due to lack of space and funds.

Same here ! 100% agree
 

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Wow somebody​ woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, there was no reason to be so ignorant to someone who just asked what case they came in, he never once complained about the case or said if it mattered. Nothing worth being an ******* about that's for sure.

Apologies if I pissed anyone off...

Its more that I'm trying to play devil's advocate and provide some self-awareness...like I said I have no issues with people buying what they feel they can afford/need based on their own situation and constraints etc.

My pique was more the odd sense of entitlement--sometimes that's inevitable I guess when looking for a deal--but sometimes its also just... :sad:
 

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If you wanna push down the whole buy American tools, tool trucks are the best agenda down people's throats on these forums, you're gonna make this place unwelcoming to everyone.

Let people decide based on the information. It's universally known that the tool trucks are probably the best but I cannot stress this enough: $500 for a socket set or $300 for a ratchet is not recommended for a common, diy er. It's a niche market, the tool trucks and snapons and stuff. They cater toward the professionals.

For example:

As an IT consultant, it'll be ultra overkill to recommend a client a Gigabit router for 8 servers when the client only wants to be streaming Netflix to his/her desktop through a ~54Mbps ISP connection.

We just gotta learn to ask the thread creators their needs/wants and budget.
 

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If you wanna push down the whole buy American tools, tool trucks are the best agenda down people's throats on these forums, you're gonna make this place unwelcoming to everyone.

That was never I point I was making here. As stated previously, the tools in question are low-frills tools (made china, but thats not the point). They are no-frills...and so is everything associated with the sale (brand, the store, the prices).

We can have endless threads about why every purchase doesn't include "extra ****"...but basicaly the reason every purchase doesn't include "extra ****"...is simple...you're NOT always getting 2x things when you pay for 1x things...just common sense.

China COO is really beside the point except for to emphasize that even within the Brand in quesiton here, china is worse than taiwan and emphasises that these SKUs are low-frills SKUs...this is not the better gearwrench stuff ...not even the better gearwrench stuff sold by sears....(GW make taiwan tools as well)...

As an example, the zero offset cman relabels of box/ratheting box XLs are decent enough tools and made in taiwan...when not on Sale, they are way more expensive but sold by the same store and the same OEM...they come in a plastic bag in a cardboard box....

Sometimes better tools come witout frills... :thumbup:
 
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Apologies if I pissed anyone off...

Its more that I'm trying to play devil's advocate and provide some self-awareness...like I said I have no issues with people buying what they feel they can afford/need based on their own situation and constraints etc.

My pique was more the odd sense of entitlement--sometimes that's inevitable I guess when looking for a deal--but sometimes its also just... :sad:

Can you show me where the sense of entitlement is in asking what the case is for a set of tools when the description says it comes with one but they do not provide a picture?
 
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