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Wireless Issues. Horse of a different color.

Petejoe

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Hello everyone.
I have an electrical issue that I have no experience with.
Was hoping I could pick up a few ideas to remedy it.
Question.
At my house I've had wireless speakers for years.
Here of late I've been getting some kind of feed back through them. Thumping sound every two seconds.
This feedback is not associated to the transmitter because it continues when the transmitter is unplugged.
Its coming either from a radio wave or through my house current.
Is there a way to check it?
Thanks.
Rick.
 
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kd3pc

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most likely a recent RF device has been put in to service, might not even be one of yours - could be the neighbor, as long as you are in range.

You can shut off your home's breakers one at a time, to see if the interference goes away - that way you are narrowing it down to a device on that circuit, if it does go away.

bests
 

CoogarXR

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My speakers at work do that, and it's caused by my cell phone believe it or not. If I turn my phone off, or put it across the room, the noise quits.
 

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My cell phone used to do that when charging next to my laptop. I felt like the black helicopters were coming to get me a lot :D
 

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Is there one receiver, or are there multiple? Does the receiver have one speaker, or multiple?

I would guess (and this is just a guess), that something in the receiver's power supply is failing. Possibly a bad capacitor.
 
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Petejoe

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Is there one receiver, or are there multiple? Does the receiver have one speaker, or multiple?

I would guess (and this is just a guess), that something in the receiver's power supply is failing. Possibly a bad capacitor.

Thanks for the responses everyone.
Yes, I have tried flipping each breaker off while listening to the speakers and no change at all. Except of course the breaker powering the speaker. i have even tried a different transmitter. no change.
I have multiple receivers (speakers) throughout the house. They all do it.
Sounds like dripping water only loud. It will drive you nuts.
I too am beginning to think its a newly installed RF system.
Any more ideas are surely welcome. Cause this is out of my realm of the universe.
 
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mm08822

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Can you take the transmitter and a couple of speakers to a friends house ( not next door) and plug in there? This way its a "different power source" and air waves may be cleaner.
 
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Petejoe

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I took a speaker to a nearby building.
Same issue. That eliminates house problems.
Called both my cell provider and internet provider. The internet provider indicated my router could be something to look at.
My cell provider indicated since the speakers are wi-fi and not Bluetooth that cell transmission won't effect it.
Someone mentioned the 3 gas pipelines going through this area.
They are in the process of doing this work at different locations all around us.
The only thing I know that could effect would be welding and maybe the X-ray work.
Still on the hunt.
These speakers can take a battery to operate.
I may just throw some in and if it's still doing it. I'll take it for a drive.at the construction areas.
 
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wyliesdiesels

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I took a speaker to a nearby building.
Same issue. That eliminates house problems.
Called both my cell provider and internet provider. The internet provider indicated my router could be something to look at.
My cell provider indicated since the speakers are wi-fi and not Bluetooth that cell transmission won't effect it.

Someone mentioned the 3 gas pipelines going through this area.
They are in the process of doing this work at different locations all around us.
The only thing I know that could effect would be welding and maybe the X-ray work.
Still on the hunt.
These speakers can take a battery to operate.
I may just throw some in and if it's still doing it. I'll take it for a drive.at the construction areas.

Bunch of incorrect mumbo jumbo.

I use to work for a microwave radio shop.

Just because the radio in the speaker doesnt operate on cell frequencies doesnt mean it wont accept interferance from those frequencies.

I have heard wired speakers pickup interference from cell transmissions.

Here is one example:


Part 15 of the FCC rules states that a device must accept interference...

Xray machines Would not be causing that interference either...
 
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manwithtools

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I'll wager money it's you smart power meter - if you have one. My wired sub-woofer that is close to the smart meter does this. It's two low frequency thumps every 6 seconds in my case. Seems as if it's a heart beat signal the meter generates from what I've researched. I'm just amazed it has to do this every 5-6 seconds. Seams as if once or twice a day would be adequate for their data collection needs.

I had to move the sub and receiver to a different circuit and move them physically away from the meter to cure the issue.
 
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Seems as if it's a heart beat signal the meter generates from what I've researched. I'm just amazed it has to do this every 5-6 seconds. Seams as if once or twice a day would be adequate for their data collection needs.

Sometimes the "heart beat" is just so power companies will know when a meter has lost power. But, more and more, power companies are using the smart meter to monitor real time loads on their system. This allows them to recognize potential overloads before they happen and can also allow them to better plan resources to respond to rising or falling loads.

DC
 
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Petejoe

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I'll wager money it's you smart power meter - if you have one. My wired sub-woofer that is close to the smart meter does this. It's two low frequency thumps every 6 seconds in my case. Seems as if it's a heart beat signal the meter generates from what I've researched. I'm just amazed it has to do this every 5-6 seconds. Seams as if once or twice a day would be adequate for their data collection needs.

I had to move the sub and receiver to a different circuit and move them physically away from the meter to cure the issue.

Now that's possible.
My speakers located on the same side of the house as my service connections have a stronger louder beat. I will take a speaker right to it and see how strong it is.
 
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Petejoe

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Just a Follow up.
After 3 weeks the interference just stopped. Never did find the reason. :(
 

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Just in case.
Watch out for the speaker power supply. They do go bad, eventually.
If the speakers use pcb based power supply, the electrolytic capacitors might be going bad.
 
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