Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, any plans for some under bench storage??

 

[slimpickins]

Andy,
Loved the caboose! Brought back memories of my one opportunity to ride in a caboose when I was a boy. My family had taken a train to Edmonton and then we missed the train coming home at night. My dad, who worked for the CNR (Canadian National Railroad) arranged for me and him to ride home on a caboose, (Strictly off the record of course), because he had to work the next day. I had a great time riding in the cupola and drinking hot chocolate the trainmen had on hand. It was a night ride, and sitting up there watching the prairies go by in the moonlight is a memory I'll never forget.

Thanks for the tour!

I wonder if many people know that the cupola was for watching for overheated journals on the train as it winds around corners? Not too many of those on the prairies though.

Nice work on the stairs, the bench and everything else...

Cheers!

 

[BBChevro]

Hey Andy, forgive me for not commenting very much - I actually did type a comment about the Willy's and the caboose (I like 'em both), but managed to lose it before it posted (probably not helped by my dodgy internet).


I hope that your wife's condition remains stable and that she is comfortable.

You guys are in my thoughts - mind you, those thoughts are mostly "poor woman, how does she put up with this bloke".

Just kidding Andy, I'm sure that Mrs M is in excellent hands.


I may be pushing my luck with too many words here (this is about where I lose the wi-fi connectio

 

[BBChevro]

...n).

 

[BUGTHUG]

Andy, that is a nice looking VW bus. I have one just like it. Is that one for sale? I def don't need any more vehicles, unless its an old split window bus. How is the shelving going in the other room? Any pictures of the Stud E. Baker? Nice to have Stud in your name, it rhymes with Bug
Well Happy Saturday, again

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, any plans for some under bench storage??

I've been struggling with that. Other than some shelving for short cutoff pieces, I may build a drawer unit sometime in the future. When the cotton's high and the corn's a growin', and there ain't no fields to plow...

Andy,
Loved the caboose! Brought back memories of my one opportunity to ride in a caboose when I was a boy. My family had taken a train to Edmonton and then we missed the train coming home at night. My dad, who worked for the CNR (Canadian National Railroad) arranged for me and him to ride home on a caboose, (Strictly off the record of course), because he had to work the next day. I had a great time riding in the cupola and drinking hot chocolate the trainmen had on hand. It was a night ride, and sitting up there watching the prairies go by in the moonlight is a memory I'll never forget.

Thanks for the tour!

I wonder if many people know that the cupola was for watching for overheated journals on the train as it winds around corners? Not too many of those on the prairies though.

Nice work on the stairs, the bench and everything else...

Cheers!

Glad you have those memories! For my wife, our time in The Netherlands was all like that. I ask her about it regularly and she brightens up and we talk about our stay there.

That's part of the reason I posted pictures on a hot box, since hot bearings was a major concern and reason to keep watch on the train. I've heard you could see smoke even on a straight run but I'm no railroad man. I know when you are up there it seems a lot higher than it looks like from the ground.

Thanks for your comments!

Hey Andy, forgive me for not commenting very much - I actually did type a comment about the Willy's and the caboose (I like 'em both), but managed to lose it before it posted (probably not helped by my dodgy internet).


I hope that your wife's condition remains stable and that she is comfortable.

You guys are in my thoughts - mind you, those thoughts are mostly "poor woman, how does she put up with this bloke".

Just kidding Andy, I'm sure that Mrs M is in excellent hands.


I may be pushing my luck with too many words here (this is about where I lose the wi-fi connectio

You are in tune with the thoughts of her family. But they have finally resigned themselves to the fact I'm not going away anytime soon.

...n).

Andy, that is a nice looking VW bus. I have one just like it. Is that one for sale? I def don't need any more vehicles, unless its an old split window bus. How is the shelving going in the other room? Any pictures of the Stud E. Baker? Nice to have Stud in your name, it rhymes with Bug
Well Happy Saturday, again

I doubt it is for sale. Seems like they have two (isn't that a requirement?) but don't know for sure. Sure made me think of you.

Hmmm, shelving in the other room? The 40 ft shelving we put up is on a deck opposite this new bench. You really need to come down and visit.

I need to get an overall shot of that room.

Stud E. Baker is waiting patiently on the lift. Not sure Stud rhymes with Bug, check with your wife, I'm thinking it's Stub that rhymes with Bug.

Thanks for dropping in. Today will be a short day, the veterinarian is coming out to review my operation pending a Veterinary Feed Directive, onsite review required now before you can buy medicated feed. My cattle are almost all natural, I just have to treat them against anaplasmosis. She is about 4' 10" and 90 lbs and I haven't seen her in many years. Just never have the need. But we will have a good visit. Got to get breakfast then get out and get the cows called up so she can see them.

My regrets to the Aussies and Kiwis who have already wasted their Saturday

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: i was driving through SEATTLE yesterday and i'm on one of the old highways about every week and yesterday i noticed an OLD CABOOSE on the tracks sitting in front of an old Boeing factory. i might stop and take a few pictures and if i do and get close enough is there any #'s or things you might want me to take a picture of? there really isn't a great place to park so not sure i can get out and walk up to it or if it's even there, but as i was driving by at 50 mph i almost slammed on the brakes and stopped thinking that ANDY might like to see what the rain in the PNW does to a caboose. it was pretty rusty and looked a lot like yours and maybe a bit older just sitting by itself on a track that has a lot of freight trains still using it.

your bench looks great and love the big wiltons. i like how you took the corner off the bench to save your hip and then trimmed it with oak. i bet you won't ever notice that the one door is 1/32nd taller once you get your stuff on it.

great idea cutting the 2x6's that way to make the legs too.

hope you enjoy your real SATURDAY as I will too.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

Pictures of Cabeese are always welcome!

Thanks for the kind words!

My vet wanted to tour my shop and we spent two hours doing so. She was very interested in everything.

I did some cleanup and organizing, and took some more pictures of the main shop room.

View from the machine shop door:

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And view from the other end.

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Under bench is filling up on it's own!

Thanks for the visits today!

 

[BUGTHUG]

Well its Sunday,its kind of like Saturday, except its suppose to be a day of rest. But nowdays, Saturday might be your day of rest. But if they are like me, EVERYDAY is my day of rest. And that's the up date for the REST of the story.
I'm glad when you see a VW you think of me, that's so much better than being thought of trying to help a sheep across the fence Man where did that come from
Looks like Stud E Baker is flying high these days. I did come across a Stud E Baker on my adventure of looking for old trucks with my Puerto Rican friends. I knocked on the door but no one was home, but I will return soon.
So I take that the veterinary must be female? Since you remember the height and weight, or was that the cow?
So what is it going to take to get the Stud E Baker, up and in dependable condition? They have plans of any major changes? I see that lift and dream how nice it would be to have one. I'm at least lucky enough to have what I have, and thankful, I have a Snap On lift that is similar to a motorcycle lift, that fits under the whole body and doesn't allow much working room in the middle. Probably more useful for brake and tire work.
I spent half of yesterday mowing around my barn before the rain, and was thinking about what to do with a bunch of the gas station lights I have. Unfortunately they are the newer ones, but I think some of them are stainless steel and painted white. But they are about 2' X 2' and 8" tall, I got an idea to maybe make drawers out of them, just remove the light stuff and put some old car door handles on them, and fill em up. Now I say this because it was asked about under storage ideas or if you were going to do it. I think a secrete about these lights are everyone is getting away from the high cost sodium lights and replacing with LED's. So I see a lot of these on CL for almost free or very cheap. Also on CL in Wichita they have an old forge looking thing for $900.00, I'm not sure if that is something you might need or not, and the price might be too much. But I think its under the tool section. That's all the free advice I have today, your welcome

 

[oldironfarmer]

Hey BugThug thanks for stopping in! If I'd known you were here I'd sold you a Coke

Ultimately the Stud E Baker is going on the Dakota chassis that JB gave me. First up on it is to get the front fenders off and attempt some rust repair. I felt like I needed to get the bench in place first to get some clutter off the floor. Then a few days ago I came down with a cold, been going slow motion.

I'm trying to locate some metal to use for making small replacement panels out of. I may have a 50 Chevy fender I'm willing to cut up because it's smashed pretty good. We'll see. Or I can just take my truck to town and buy a sheet or two. I really hate to take the time to go to Tulsa

When the new cylinder gets here I need to get the Massey finished up and out of the shop. And Drives has ordered an all aluminum hammer, and I really need to get my kiln control wired up so I can finish the new furnace, and need to get the Dodge back together and finish the paint booth.

My granddaughter will be sixteen before we know it, next April 4.

I'm on the lookout for a project to start...

 

[BUGTHUG]

You need another project like I need another VW, wait a minute, why yes I do! Rest up!

 

[Kev442]

About 7 or 8 years ago, this showed up 5 miles from the nearest town. I was amazed that anyone would go through all that trouble and expense for a caboose...





Fixed!

 

[bj383ss]

View from the machine shop door:

Andy that is an awesome shot! I don't think you have near enough projects going. You must be getting bored! Those are some tiny brake drums. That must be why my grandpa always downshifted to stop.

Bret

 

[drivesitfar]

BJ: my gramps and dad taught me how to shift cars and small trucks without using a clutch and they also downshifted at stop signs or instead of hitting the brakes. they told me that it was because it lengthened the life of both and it was good to know how to do both in case on or the other failed while you were driving.

ANDY: you are the king at getting the most out of your tire's life what say you on shifting without using a clutch and to slow down to save your brakes?

hope you had a nice Sunday and you rested up for your week of Saturdays to come.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

About 7 or 8 years ago, this showed up 5 miles from the nearest town. I was amazed that anyone would go through all that trouble and expense for a caboose...

Sorry it's upside down, us leftys hold the phone the wrong way.

Nice! Looks like they have some more cars there on trucks. My experience has been about any rolling stock you buy salvage comes without the trucks.

I understand phones being designed for right handed people. My take on that is that the poor souls are less adaptable and need everything designed specifically for them.

Andy that is an awesome shot! I don't think you have near enough projects going. You must be getting bored! Those are some tiny brake drums. That must be why my grandpa always downshifted to stop.

Bret

Thanks!! I'm enjoying looking at it. Didn't really notice the brake drums, what I noticed is the rear axle housings are very small, maybe only 2" diameter.

BJ: my gramps and dad taught me how to shift cars and small trucks without using a clutch and they also downshifted at stop signs or instead of hitting the brakes. they told me that it was because it lengthened the life of both and it was good to know how to do both in case on or the other failed while you were driving.

ANDY: you are the king at getting the most out of your tire's life what say you on shifting without using a clutch and to slow down to save your brakes?

hope you had a nice Sunday and you rested up for your week of Saturdays to come.

cheers

My high school bus driver, with a rear engine, only used the clutch to stop. That was my first introduction to that and I asked him if it was a fluid drive like old Dodge cars. He assured me he was just a driver. I was the first student to notice. So I learned how to shift without using the clutch on my own. Always hard for me to get it into first gear, however.

The most practical use of that skill was in college when I had an old Chevy pickup the clutch went out on (throwout bearing came apart). I drove it all week until payday so my wife would have our other car. Don't go where you had to start up hill, let the starter move the truck to start, or if it was downhill, jump out and give it a shove then pop it into second and get it started. I was fine in the light traffic of Stillwater, OK, in 1970. Sometimes I was able to keep moving by killing the engine as we slowed too much to get it into gear then as the engine died get it into first and hit the ignition and away we go!! I've done the reverse too, absolutely no brakes and kill the engine to get stopped at a light. With a clutch it is duck soup to get going again so long as the grade is gradual. I do recall waving a honking driver around me who had pulled up too close behind for me to roll back as I was firing up the engine. They thought I just couldn't get it started (which really insults me to think I can't start an engine).

In college I worked on the grounds keeping crew and we had a fleet of IH R series trucks, unsychronized. I was about the only kid who could drive one just because I had practiced with my car. A kid riding with me one day got upset I was not double clutching like the boss told us, then noticed I wasn't even clutching and he ratted me out. The old man laughed and said if I wasn't grinding gears it must be magic. For truck driving (pickups are not trucks) gearing down is a way of life. For cars, not so much. My dad pointed out when we were changing my brakes that my front and rear seemed to be wearing evenly. I was pleased. In his opinion that indicated hard braking for quick stops as light braking wears the fronts more. He was right. I also carried a spare axle and could change one in fifteen minutes on the side of the road. (1950 Chevy wouldn't stand the torque of a 235 in tire spin mode.)

He also observed to me that (in the days of vented fuel tanks) that keeping a minimal vapor space in the fuel tank minimizes the air exchange with temperature swings and therefore limits the amount of condensation which will occur in the tank. I suggested I was running my fuel level on the wrong end. He agreed but would not finance a full tank for me to start with.

I clearly remember leaving the station with some friends and the tank was on E. So I would put a quarter's worth in and it would just nudge the needle a bit. We were good for the evening with about a gallon.

Thanks for the memories! This cold really has me dragging, I don't even want to cook

 

[OutlawDrifter]

(pickups are not trucks)

Amen to that! Makes me cringe every time someone refers to a pickup as a "truck". Even my wife knows the difference!

Shifting without a clutch is definitely not for the faint of heart. And when not done properly, can make a mess out of the gears and syncros (if equipped). I've ridden with many people in the past that should have ordered the "rubber gear" option from the factory.

 

[dchance]

Andy too bad they cleaned up the lot on the west side of cleveland. It had a lot of metal that could have been used. But I always figured that his prices might have been high, or like me, only buys never sales.

Dwight

 

[oldironfarmer]

Amen to that! Makes me cringe every time someone refers to a pickup as a "truck". Even my wife knows the difference!

Shifting without a clutch is definitely not for the faint of heart. And when not done properly, can make a mess out of the gears and syncros (if equipped). I've ridden with many people in the past that should have ordered the "rubber gear" option from the factory.

When we bought our farm in 85 our neighbor lady was 75, and her husband died soon after we moved. She had moved in in 32 when they bought the farm after her husband broke his back in an oilfield accident. She did the bulk of the farm work, one stout lady. They had a worn out square body Chevrolet pickup and she always, without exception, referred to it as her "car". In deference I've called my pickup a car since then. Drives some people crazy, so I'll never quit

Miss Vicky would just as soon be shifted without the clutch. Learning her gears I ground a bit but no more. My 37 Plymouth coupe I had in college had a 265 Chevy with no oil filter and a 62 Corvette three speed in which only first gear synchronizer works. I still have the transmission. First only works great for me

Andy too bad they cleaned up the lot on the west side of cleveland. It had a lot of metal that could have been used. But I always figured that his prices might have been high, or like me, only buys never sales.

Dwight

That was Carl Davis' place. He had over 50 two cylinder JD's on that lot. He had an acreage SW of there with thirty or more old cars. Mr. Davis ran his tire shop for many years, also ran a concrete company, did constructions work, leather shop, and other businesses. He collected cars, I don't know if he sold many. He died in 2015 at 92, but I didn't go to his auction. I should have, I heard stuff went cheap, but I was afraid I'd break myself. He had a Model A daily driver he drove since it was a fairly new car. Never restored, just maintained. Super nice guy, only one around with more tractors than me After the auction there was lots of stuff left, I'm sure it all went to scrap, lots of tractor parts and car parts. The heirs apparently did not share Carl's love for his junk. Lot's of us will share the same fate.

Thanks for the interesting comments, guys!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Well I finally got started on my controller for the kiln, so I can cure my new furnace parts, so I can get on with foundry work. And my buddy who is part heir to a closed foundry wants me to go with him Thursday to look at stuff!! I love stuff!!!!

Bought a box to house everything last week, mounted an on/off switch and the controller in the cover.

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And a socket to plug the kiln into on the left side, power cord out the bottom, SSR to center, and a terminal block.

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Across the bottom I plan to mount a low voltage power supply. The Solid State Relay needs 3 to 32 vdc to operate it. I plan to use power from one leg of the 230v kiln power to get 120v to power the controller and power supply. Also looking for a breaker to protect the small items. Thinking about venting.

I've been playing with the controller and will need to get some help as it came with no documentation and that I've found is limited.

Stay tuned!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, great score..

If I were closer I would program the controller myself..

 

[jbmatth]

Andy too bad they cleaned up the lot on the west side of cleveland. It had a lot of metal that could have been used. But I always figured that his prices might have been high, or like me, only buys never sales.

Dwight

That was Carl Davis' place. He had over 50 two cylinder JD's on that lot. He had an acreage SW of there with thirty or more old cars. Mr. Davis ran his tire shop for many years, also ran a concrete company, did constructions work, leather shop, and other businesses. He collected cars, I don't know if he sold many. He died in 2015 at 92, but I didn't go to his auction. I should have, I heard stuff went cheap, but I was afraid I'd break myself. He had a Model A daily driver he drove since it was a fairly new car. Never restored, just maintained. Super nice guy, only one around with more tractors than me After the auction there was lots of stuff left, I'm sure it all went to scrap, lots of tractor parts and car parts. The heirs apparently did not share Carl's love for his junk. Lot's of us will share the same fate.

Thanks for the interesting comments, guys!

I remember in about 2011 or so I went to Cleveland for a race and drove the cobra, I was in awe with all of his great stuff. I didn't go back by there until last year sometime and noticed it was all gone, a little sad as that would have been lots of cool stuff to keep my own personal junk...er antique collection underway.

When the race was over I tried to start the car and the starter would only spin, frustrated I just push started it and away I went, love manual transmissions and have gotten better at driving older styles but still have a lot to learn. When I made it home I took a look and the starter was falling out, one bolt was gone and the other was only held in by a couple of threads. I'm just glad it didn't ground out the direct feed from the battery, that could have been bad.
JB

 

[squatch]

Andy,

A couple of things I noticed...

Are you sure your PID controller can't be connected directly to the SSR? I have a beer brewing controller that I build and the PID output is 12v DC. My controller is hooked right up to the SSR.

Also, the SSR generates a LOT of heat while in use. I know it does when I brew for three hours. My SSR is mounted to a large heat sink that is mounted externally. That way, the heat has somewhere to go. I see you mounted yours to the back of an aluminum box, so that will disperse the heat some, but I think a heat sink of some sort would be nice to have since you are going to have potentially long run times.

Casey

Across the bottom I plan to mount a low voltage power supply. The Solid State Relay needs 3 to 32 vdc to operate it. I plan to use power from one leg of the 230v kiln power to get 120v to power the controller and power supply. Also looking for a breaker to protect the small items. Thinking about venting.

I've been playing with the controller and will need to get some help as it came with no documentation and that I've found is limited.

Stay tuned!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, great score..

If I were closer I would program the controller myself..

Thank you! I've still got that five acres for you

I remember in about 2011 or so I went to Cleveland for a race and drove the cobra, I was in awe with all of his great stuff. I didn't go back by there until last year sometime and noticed it was all gone, a little sad as that would have been lots of cool stuff to keep my own personal junk...er antique collection underway.

When the race was over I tried to start the car and the starter would only spin, frustrated I just push started it and away I went, love manual transmissions and have gotten better at driving older styles but still have a lot to learn. When I made it home I took a look and the starter was falling out, one bolt was gone and the other was only held in by a couple of threads. I'm just glad it didn't ground out the direct feed from the battery, that could have been bad.
JB

Mr. Davis enjoyed his collection for his entire life.

Manual transmissions are nice! I prefer them. You did great on your Cobra starter. Have you checked the starter bolts since then?

Andy,

A couple of things I noticed...

Are you sure your PID controller can't be connected directly to the SSR? I have a beer brewing controller that I build and the PID output is 12v DC. My controller is hooked right up to the SSR.

Also, the SSR generates a LOT of heat while in use. I know it does when I brew for three hours. My SSR is mounted to a large heat sink that is mounted externally. That way, the heat has somewhere to go. I see you mounted yours to the back of an aluminum box, so that will disperse the heat some, but I think a heat sink of some sort would be nice to have since you are going to have potentially long run times.

Casey

Everyone else: Squatch has sent me two manuals to help with the PID controller. Thank you very much! I would have been lost without what he sent me.

My PID has an internal SSR. I think it's good for 20 amps. I possibly could use it but I'd be near the top of the capacity so I thought it better to use that SSR to drive a 50 amp SSR. To double check I set the PID for "Hold" and could not detect any native voltage from the PID. However I only checked the SSR terminals, I need to check the two adjacent points as well.

I was thinking of venting the box but may have to do more. The box is galvanized steel, not as good as if it were aluminum. I'm considering moving it through the back wall. Also considering putting an exhaust fan on the box, with ventilation.

I may have an eight hour run time. So there will be ample opportunity for heat to build up. I had already decided to set the cover out 3/32" which will give some convective heat transfer.

Another option is to build a heat sink for it. I'll definitely monitor the temperature as it heats the first few times.

Thanks for the comments, guys!

 

[oldironfarmer]

This morning I had to do a little farm work.

I need a stump to do metalworking on, so I called my woodcutter. He happened to be cutting down a 22" tree at the time. Oak. So I asked for a 38" piece. It weighs about 350#.

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And while we were down in the bottom, I noticed this black walnut having been blown down by the wind.

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Sawmill fodder

I've got lots of old 8/3 cable. I use it for power cord. It is old, I've had it 30 years and it was old when I got it. Our three phase welders in the refinery were hooked up with the 8/3 cable. No ground, all welding current was going through the structure and rebar. It could easily be 90 years old. I use it a lot and have not had any problems with it.

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Got the heavy cable ready to terminate. I need to find some #8 lug connections.

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The stump cut for me is a bit shy on 38". I plan to add three feet to the bottom.

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And is 20" in diameter. I think it will be solid.

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My helper has been working. Most the interior door openings are now boxed in.

Massey cylinder arrived today so that's on the menu for tomorrow!

 

[larry_g]

I would suggest that you seal the ends of the stump. If it is wet at all and dries to fast it will split. I worked one up for a friend and it lasted about a year before is was unusable. The next one we ripped the sides off of it and made it somewhat square. He made some metal bands to go around it and it is still holding now some years later.

lg
no neat sig line

 

[BUGTHUG]

This morning I had to do a little farm work.

I need a stump to do metalworking on, so I called my woodcutter. He happened to be cutting down a 22" tree at the time. Oak. So I asked for a 38" piece. It weighs about 350#.

Sooo... How do you get 38" out of a 22" tree? just amazing, I guess you add some water? yuk, yuk!

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: i agree sealing your Oak 38 inch long log might be a good idea. another thing i've heard that you might do to prevent cracking is to put 2 or 3 metal bands around it. your woodcutter is pretty darn accurate i'd say especially if he made it sit flat.

i loved the clutching stories and i've sort of been looking for another car/truck to drive with a 3 to 5 speed cause i do like shifting. i'm more than a little out of practice with shifting without a clutch so i think that ship has sailed unless i have an emergency.

nice story about putting a quarter's worth of gas in the tank cause the youngins won't realize that actually bought you a gallon of gas in the late 60's and very early 70's. of course our pay wasn't much and i recall driving 30 minutes to work instead of 5 for a similar job that paid $2.10 an hour up from $1.65 when i was 16.

these are too far for me to grab, but i thought you might like a picture of them. they were on an out of state Craigslist ad and 7 for $75 total. thought you might like to see the types available, but you might already know about this style and like your wood ones better.

have a great Saturday and i'll do the same.

 

[oldironfarmer]

I would suggest that you seal the ends of the stump. If it is wet at all and dries to fast it will split. I worked one up for a friend and it lasted about a year before is was unusable. The next one we ripped the sides off of it and made it somewhat square. He made some metal bands to go around it and it is still holding now some years later.

lg
no neat sig line

Absolutely! It was cut yesterday and will get a coat of latex paint on each end today. It is also inside which would cause it to dry faster. The tree was a post oak which is a white oak so it will split but not a bad as some other trees. I have a piece of old bois d'arc I thought about using, but called my woodcutter to see if he had anything on my place he was getting ready to cut. Told me he had this oak on his place which was recently split by a lightening strike and offered the stump off it if it was not split. It wasn't.

This morning I had to do a little farm work.

I need a stump to do metalworking on, so I called my woodcutter. He happened to be cutting down a 22" tree at the time. Oak. So I asked for a 38" piece. It weighs about 350#.

Sooo... How do you get 38" out of a 22" tree? just amazing, I guess you add some water? yuk, yuk!

OK, you know it is a 38" piece of a 22" tree I'm surprised nobody jumped on me for adding three feet, why not just cut it 74" long?

Andy: i agree sealing your Oak 38 inch long log might be a good idea. another thing i've heard that you might do to prevent cracking is to put 2 or 3 metal bands around it. your woodcutter is pretty darn accurate i'd say especially if he made it sit flat.

i loved the clutching stories and i've sort of been looking for another car/truck to drive with a 3 to 5 speed cause i do like shifting. i'm more than a little out of practice with shifting without a clutch so i think that ship has sailed unless i have an emergency.

nice story about putting a quarter's worth of gas in the tank cause the youngins won't realize that actually bought you a gallon of gas in the late 60's and very early 70's. of course our pay wasn't much and i recall driving 30 minutes to work instead of 5 for a similar job that paid $2.10 an hour up from $1.65 when i was 16.

these are too far for me to grab, but i thought you might like a picture of them. they were on an out of state Craigslist ad and 7 for $75 total. thought you might like to see the types available, but you might already know about this style and like your wood ones better.

have a great Saturday and i'll do the same.

I'm pretty comfortable with just painting the ends. One or two splits will not damage it from being used. Should it come apart putting bands around is a good blacksmith activity. The old man is pretty good with a chainsaw. He cuts around 400 face cords (we call them ricks) per year, cuts all year 'round. He also knocked down a big elm tree for me yesterday so we can get the backhoe in to the big water outlet that has more erosion issues. I could have used the elm stump (very durable wood) but that would have been a lot more work for him. I'd go cut it if I wasn't so lazy.

Of course the new advantage of standard transmissions is they are becoming theft proof. I think the first story of a thief abandoning his effort because the didn't know what to do with a clutch was in the PNW.

My first job paid $0.75 per hour. I was 15 and walked a half mile to the station. When I turned 16 he raised it to $1.00 (which happened to be the minimum wage) so it cost me 1/4 of an hour's work to buy one gallon of gas. Gas is about the same price now. It went up to $1.15 while I was in college.

Nice collection of flasks. All are specialized, so I'm glad they are easy to make. The wooden ones with finger joints have metal wear plates on the top. I haven't seen that. Production use! The steel ones are formed for strength but also to hold the sand in. They will be heavy and likely only used on molding machines where they are hydraulically manipulated. Thanks for posting those.

Thanks for the comments guys, it makes for an interesting thread!

My cold is slowly abating so maybe I'll start getting some stuff done in the next few Saturdays...

 

[shortykorte]

You had a good boss. Working at my parents Texaco at 14, started at $1 for 1/2 a day. 5 yrs later, I was getting $2/hr (1978 min. wage was 2.25) The business did pay for car insurance but not my gas. I got free labor and parts at cost. All while working 20-60 hrs a week. At 16, paycheck went towards $10/week car payment, $5-6 full tank of gas, $10 for weeks lunch and a little leftover for Saturday night.


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[oldironfarmer]

You had a good boss. Working at my parents Texaco at 14, started at $1 for 1/2 a day. 5 yrs later, I was getting $2/hr (1978 min. wage was 2.25) The business did pay for car insurance but not my gas. I got free labor and parts at cost. All while working 20-60 hrs a week. At 16, paycheck went towards $10/week car payment, $5-6 full tank of gas, $10 for weeks lunch and a little leftover for Saturday night.


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Working for parents is always different. But you can't beat working at a Texaco at 14.

The guy in the Mobil station was no mechanic. He got me in lots of trouble thinking I could do any repair. We started doing tuneups, carburetor rebuilds, starters, generators, and on and on. I was eager to do anything I could but was just a kid. Most stuff came with instructions and I had a Motor's Manual but I was scared all the time. Never did get fired though.

 

[oldironfarmer]

In the "for what it's worth" category, I was digging out my A/C condensate drain line (in the pasture and the cows stomp it shut sometimes). New shovels are lighter than they used to be, so I reinforce them with a triangle of metal.

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It really makes them stiffer and they last longer. For what it's worth...

Got the control box wired up today. For a 6v power supply to drive the SSR I used an old Nokia phone charger plugged into a piece of extension cord.

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That's a black walnut clamp holding it to the front cover.

View inside the kiln. The "Kiln Sitter" control is the three pieces toward the middle. I'll use it as an emergency shutoff. Just peeking through a peep hole close to the bottom is a shielded thermocouple.

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The box is temporarily on top of the stove, the kiln plugs into the left side.

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After much fiddling (my first used light switch was bad and I forgot to set the kiln to operate ) I finally got the system working. The hand instrument is measuring the temperature of the box right behind the SSR. SSR is good to 167F ambient and I didn't let the box get above 160F.

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The kiln temperature is at 264F and the setpoint is 300F. Getting to 300F the metal behind the SSR only got to 145F but that is heating an empty kiln. With 40 lbs of concrete in it, it will take longer to heat. SSR temperature is proportional to the time spent heating, not the kiln temperature.

After GJ advice and reading up on SSR's, I plan to set the SSR inside off the back wall a bit, cut a big hole behind it, and installing a forced air fan to pressurize the box and force air out around the SSR to insure cooling. Thanks Squatch!!

And got the new stump painted.

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Tomorrow is Saturday so I hope to get more done.

Thanks for dropping by!!

 

[squatch]

Andy,

I've lurked for years and finally, I am able to help. Glad to do whatever I can.

I'm glad you decided to put the SSR in a spot where it can stay cooler. That will really help extend the life of the relay. Here is a link to some heat sinks that are available for purchase.

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_48

I would still encourage you to think about getting one for the SSR. Also, whatever you do, be sure to use some thermal grease between the sink and the whatever it's mounted to. It really helps transfer the heat away from the SSR.

Keep up the great work!

Casey

After much fiddling (my first used light switch was bad and I forgot to set the kiln to operate ) I finally got the system working. The hand instrument is measuring the temperature of the box right behind the SSR. SSR is good to 167F ambient and I didn't let the box get above 160F.


After GJ advice and reading up on SSR's, I plan to set the SSR inside off the back wall a bit, cut a big hole behind it, and installing a forced air fan to pressurize the box and force air out around the SSR to insure cooling. Thanks Squatch!!

 

[-Brent-]

The stump cut for me is a bit shy on 38".

Haha, that's what happens when you cut the line.

With my cuts you could have that measurement on one side, roll it over and have 39-1/2" on the other. His square-cut skills are pretty good. I guess you get good when you do it year round. I don't even think it would need paint. I've seen them used both inside and out and as long as it's covered from the weather and used it'll be fine. Especially a nice, straight and healthy piece like that.

 

[y'sguy]

Andy, I personally haven't done this before but have done some reading on the use of PEG. Use Automotive anti-freeze soaked "green" wood used to prevent checking and cracking. A whole 'nother process to learn and would occupy more time before you use the stump. However I nominate you to try next sat. Or a least read about it so the rest of us may enjoy vicariously though you! ; )

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy,

I've lurked for years and finally, I am able to help. Glad to do whatever I can.

I'm glad you decided to put the SSR in a spot where it can stay cooler. That will really help extend the life of the relay. Here is a link to some heat sinks that are available for purchase.

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_48

I would still encourage you to think about getting one for the SSR. Also, whatever you do, be sure to use some thermal grease between the sink and the whatever it's mounted to. It really helps transfer the heat away from the SSR.

Keep up the great work!

Casey

Your help is much appreciated. In part, it got me to reading about SSR's. One thing I read was failure mode is shorting to "on". Another is unpredictable life. Since I paid $4.04 for my 50 amp one, I bought another then saw one with a heat sink for $8 so it's coming too. Also found a 35 CFM fan for 5 volt service for a couple of dollars, so it is coming. In the interim I still want to use it so I plan on using an air bleed for a fan.

Haha, that's what happens when you cut the line.

With my cuts you could have that measurement on one side, roll it over and have 39-1/2" on the other. His square-cut skills are pretty good. I guess you get good when you do it year round. I don't even think it would need paint. I've seen them used both inside and out and as long as it's covered from the weather and used it'll be fine. Especially a nice, straight and healthy piece like that.

I was pleased with his accuracy. I think I'm pretty good with a chainsaw but he is much better.

I don't mind a little checking in the wood for this service but I've gotten used to painting wood to be saved and either split or sawn.

Andy, I personally haven't done this before but have done some reading on the use of PEG. Use Automotive anti-freeze soaked "green" wood used to prevent checking and cracking. A whole 'nother process to learn and would occupy more time before you use the stump. However I nominate you to try next sat. Or a least read about it so the rest of us may enjoy vicariously though you! ; )

I do know a bit about PEG as a preservative. It's not painted on, but submersed for an extended period. But it is Polyethylene Glycol, not Ethylene Glycol, which is antifreeze. Antifreeze won't help preserve wood and is highly toxic. PEG, on the other hand, is safe enough to be used as a laxative. You can find it in the drug store.

I don't plan on using PEG unless my drain gets stopped up, and I do use EG to keep my engine from getting stopped up in cooler weather.

Thanks for stopping in, everybody!

My day was spent working on the MF tractor, some progress, and went to my earthmoving contractor's house to look at woodworking tools.

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Sitting outside

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Rusting up. All three phase industrial machines. A big band saw

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I should make room for. The stuff is for sale at scrap prices.

A big planer, 24" or more

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Some big DeWalt radial arm saws. A few years ago I would have hauled some stuff home. I guess I've finally got enough stuff.

Hopefully I'll get the Massey Furgeson back together tomorrow and then back to foundry work!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Pretty incredible casting project by a Kiwi

http://oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/53938-bugatti-t5759-engine-project/#entry1752201

 

[Jo Diesel]

I wish you weren't so far away. I would love to get my hands on the planer and band saw. I have access to enough kiln dried aged hardwood to build a kitchen but it is all rough sawn.

 

[dlcwent]

I'm still here reading along. Just trying to live by the .........open your mouth and remove all doubt.......

Always interesting to follow you though a Saturday.

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: it looks like you have access to some pretty big old cast iron pieces from pre WWII days. do you see many or any 250+ pound vises laying in a field or on the floor or bench of one of your friend's places? or do you have a few out in your field?

great link on the Bugatti engine and even though i'm not a car guy and really have no idea how to rebuild an engine between you and 1/2 Cup and a few others maybe i will be able to some day just by watching and learning.

so do you have a 3D printer or is that on your wish list now?

hope you enjoy your Saturday today as much as i will enjoy mine.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

I wish you weren't so far away. I would love to get my hands on the planer and band saw. I have access to enough kiln dried aged hardwood to build a kitchen but it is all rough sawn.

I suppose they could be shipped. They came from Ohio and Michigan to begin with. I hate to see them rust away. Right now it looks like they would clean up.

I'm still here reading along. Just trying to live by the .........open your mouth and remove all doubt.......

Always interesting to follow you though a Saturday.

Glad you stop in!!! I see you've noticed I do open my mouth and remove all doubt

Andy: it looks like you have access to some pretty big old cast iron pieces from pre WWII days. do you see many or any 250+ pound vises laying in a field or on the floor or bench of one of your friend's places? or do you have a few out in your field?

great link on the Bugatti engine and even though i'm not a car guy and really have no idea how to rebuild an engine between you and 1/2 Cup and a few others maybe i will be able to some day just by watching and learning.

so do you have a 3D printer or is that on your wish list now?

hope you enjoy your Saturday today as much as i will enjoy mine.

cheers

With the sheet metal, I'm pretty sure those are all post WWII, probably 50's but I really don't know. Not much old heavy equipment in this area. I've looked and never see much and it always seems overpriced. I have never seen a 250 pound vise. I have a 250 pound anvil, but vise, noooo, that's one big vise. Maybe the anvil is not quite 250 pounds, I can slide it around.

Unbelievable the work the guy is going through to build a Bugatti engine from scratch.

Don't have a 3D printer and not sure I want one. At some point you have to determine just how much stuff can you cram into your head, and what do you want to spend your time doing. I have several skills I'd like to develop but can't seem to find the time. Trying to learn to focus on the things I want to be doing versus the things I think I should be doing. In the end, when all is said and done, what do you expect to leave for others?

It's starting out to be a beautiful Saturday here, thanks for the comments and visits!