Some people shouldn't be allowed to have tools.

[jd_1138]

Not really what I would call a tool, but just a diy screen replacement on my iPhone 6, 6 screws were missing. Had it replaced before at a mall keiosk.

And that dude has probably taken apart many, many of those iphones so he should know where most if not all of the fasteners are. That's laziness.

 

[jd_1138]

Well said. That and people have different priorities. My father is one of those people. He can fix damn near anything, but he'll do so with the fewest amount of tools possible. A screwdriver is a prybar, a ratchet can be used as a hammer, c clamp and a block of wood is a brake tool. When I offered to GIVE home a breaker bar..."I don't need a breaker bar, I've got that pipe over there". I've seen him hammer vice grips. He would NEVER buy a tool just because and spending money on himself might actually kill him. I would venture a guess you could fit all his tools in a 26" tool box and the man is late 60's. He's rebuilt the engine in two different cars, installed a bathroom where there was none, built and wired a garage where none existed and poured the driveway. All passed inspection and had permits. He made a lawn roller out of some cement, a cardboard barrel and some pipe. He even filled in as the maintenance guy when his quit until he could hire someone at the plant he was managing. Oh, and he never gets dirty. In the last 40 years, he's never worn a t-shirt...period. The man could change the oil in the car, then go out to dinner in the same clothes. I have no idea how.

Point of all this rambling? Tools are just objects to accomplish a task, nothing more, at least to my father.

This same man has no issue dropping $500 or more for dinner for his family, or for going to see an event or show.

Wow, he's amazing to be able to do all that with so little. He ought to treat himself to at least $300 or so worth of basic tools.

Reminds me of my dad -- can rebuild a transmission and build a house. With minimal tools. I wish he were still around.

 

[bubinga]

F451, some guys can't even change an upper rad hose.
Same guy, (was working with me, why they hired him??) I said toss me those needle nose, do they have wire cutters built in to them?
He looks @ them and says, IDK?
I didn't say it but thought it, "You have to be B/S-ing me?

 

[jd_1138]

F451, some guys can't even change an upper rad hose.
Same guy, (was working with me, why they hired him??) I said toss me those needle nose, do they have wire cutters built in to them?
He looks @ them and says, IDK?
I didn't say it but thought it, "You have to be B/S-ing me?

If he ever was granted a man card, it needs to be yanked away from that dude. Sounds sort of like my BIL, the dude doesn't even OWN a pair of needle nose pliers. I was over at their house installing a fixture and asked for a pair. He brought me regular el cheapo pliers.

 

[Parrothead]

Wow, he's amazing to be able to do all that with so little. He ought to treat himself to at least $300 or so worth of basic tools.

Reminds me of my dad -- can rebuild a transmission and build a house. With minimal tools. I wish he were still around.

I'm sorry for the loss of your dad, it's always too soon.

Yea, it's pretty amazing I'll admit. He's got the basics and a few things like a torque wrench or a gear puller, but if it's not an absolute necessity (see breaker bar), he doesn't have it. I think his pliers consist of needle nose, vise grips (2), and slip joint. Doesn't have, nor would he use linesmans pliers. One pair of generic channel locks. The metric sockets he has, most here would laugh at. It's a Great Neck set from AutoZone from the early 90's. The ratchet was replaced eventually by a round head Ace Professional that was warranted a few times, but I finally purchased a Snap On FR80 for him as a gift. It can go with his 1 Snap On screwdriver. Haha. His SAE sockets are Wright and SK though. His 1/2 ratchet is a Wright. He knows good tools, but if it's not a necessity, he doesn't buy it. Need a socket? Head down to AutoZone for the 1 socket. Anyway, pretty interesting.

 

[mudflap]

I swear. I love the older tools, both mechanics and metal and wood working. I've got three tool "quick restorations" going on and I'm amazed at the stupid **** people do to tools in the absence of any form of intelligence. I'm restoring a 1950s table saw right now, absolutely cool little machine, and I am discovering that half the screws and bolts are missing, including the set screws for the pulley's, the crank handles, so it was just a F' it, let the handles slip on the shafts. Luckily the drive pulley's were tight enough that they didn't slip to the extent that damage occurred. Guy I bough the saw from hammered and mangled some of the sheet metal on the cabinet at the angle adjustment, for absolutely no reason other than the mechanism was hitting because the ******** bolts that held everything to the cast iron table were partially missing. Switch was bypassed so that the cord in the receptacle was the on off switch. Hooked it back up, it works fine.

Lots of other things on this saw, but slowly getting it un focked and back in to vintage pride fashion including a new crinkle coat paint job. Has anyone done stupid to your stuff before you got it?

I've been nursing a 1930s Walker Turner drill press back to functionality but that's another story.........

Yea...but if it was in mint condition you wouldnt have scored it for $15, and you wouldnt have had the fun of fixing it up...you would have been out in the garage watching wheel of fortune. So the previous owners did you a favor....

 

[bubinga]

If he ever was granted a man card, it needs to be yanked away from that dude. Sounds sort of like my BIL, the dude doesn't even OWN a pair of needle nose pliers. I was over at their house installing a fixture and asked for a pair. He brought me regular el cheapo pliers.

l don't think he ever had one. Nice guy and all,

just couldn't believe how he couldn't work on or fix nothing.
Didn't know how to put a drill bit in a cordless De-Walt drill when he first started.
It was "political" he bid out shortly after.
stepping stone.
We all knew it was coming.
Cut my hand with the 20 volt portable band saw pretty deep,
He said, he didn't think that thing could cut into skin/bone (forget how deep, not "finger losing" deep) like that?
No, it cuts steel posts, but your hand would surely stall it.

 

[cm cm]

First off, you guys need to understand you have a very specific fetish, and most do not. Of course you are gonna be backed up by others around you, look what website you are on.

However, What i do with my property is none of your buisness. If you dont like it, dont give me good money in exchange for stuff you dont like how ive treated.

"What bob did with his tools before i bought them from him" is not a valid complaint.
"What bob did with MY tools i leant him" Is obviously valid.
"Why i refuse to lend tools to bob" Is also valid.

Theres no shame in my name, Ive abused tools. Im also not sorry that it offends you or your "tool restoration" hobby... Ive also grown up since then.

 

[Squddle]

Sometimes it's just laziness.

 

[bubinga]

If he ever was granted a man card, it needs to be yanked away from that dude. Sounds sort of like my BIL, the dude doesn't even OWN a pair of needle nose pliers. I was over at their house installing a fixture and asked for a pair. He brought me regular el cheapo pliers.

heck for that matter JD, for a Dollar, he can get el cheapo pair of needle nose, @ Dollar Tree.
And actually they are not made too bad.
If used within the limitations of any pair of needle nose pliers.
I have a pair in my computer desk for light applications.

 

[bubinga]

First off, you guys need to understand you have a very specific fetish, and most do not. Of course you are gonna be backed up by others around you, look what website you are on.

However, What i do with my property is none of your buisness. If you dont like it, dont give me good money in exchange for stuff you dont like how ive treated.

"What bob did with his tools before i bought them from him" is not a valid complaint.
"What bob did with MY tools i leant him" Is obviously valid.
"Why i refuse to lend tools to bob" Is also valid.

Theres no shame in my name, Ive abused tools. Im also not sorry that it offends you or your "tool restoration" hobby... Ive also grown up since then.

Cm You're a mechanic, and don't collect tools.
Really though, it's just a thread sort of for fun.