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Corded impact?

thatguysb

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Do you all actually think a corded impact is a good investment?

I already have a m12 line of tools that i use but they dont have enough power to remove wheel nuts,axles ect.

I know the corded would work for the task but besides the obvious size and the need for 110v whats the downfalls of this idea?

Im getting the milwaukee corded for less than a 1/3 of the m18.
 
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Mr_B

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not a lot of downfall besides size and less controllability compared to air impact.
Good solution for occasional use as cheap and no batteries left sitting to worry about .
buy one that hits hard and it be useful purchase .
 

Sal Bandini

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Since I don't have large compressor and will not spend hundreds on a cordless one I decided to get the HF one. For $40 it works fine for me. I was also considering the Porter Cable but no need for it yet.
 

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I have used one before(an el cheapo), and I don't feel like it hit any harder than my 18v Makita. In my view the only 2 ways to go are cordless for convenience and air for power. the plug in ones are the worst of both worlds low power and inconvenient. The only exception would be Sal's scenario where you just don't have the money for the other 2.
 

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Do you have a sufficient air supply? Air guns are WAY more powerful for the same weight than are battery or electric.

jack vines
 

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I'd weight to it as well (vesus air). So Size, weight and a cord.

Do you have a sufficient air supply? Air guns are WAY more powerful for the same weight than are battery or electric.

jack vines

My air gun is lighter than it's electric equivalent.
 
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thatguysb

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Not sufficient air supply currently, I have a 20 gallon chinese unit, extreamly noisy but i get by with it. Not worth using for wheels ect, ideal for painting and other small DIY jobs, but doesnt work for the Impacts.

So Im looking at-
5000 for a decent compressor( IR shopmate 20g/Powermate 60gallon )+ cost air hose+ impact wrench.
3800 for a m18 impact High tq kit.
1600 for a corded milwaukee.

Prices in TTD.
 

FlushingDIYer

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I've been using this guy for about two years. I paid around $90 for it, refurbished from CPO. It's cracked axle bolts that broke 1/2" breaker bars. It's heavy, noisy, and it doesn't fit everywhere, but it works. If it had adjustable speed settings and an electric brake, it would be close to perfect. Been used on four axles and that many tire rotations so it's paid for itself already.

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Caveat: I am looking to get a Milkwaukee mid-torque impact wrench (which puts out 450lb of torque; this one only does 300lb), so I can do brake and suspension jobs a little faster. But that with a charger and a battery is over $300... What are you gonna do...
 

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I bought this recently:

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Reasons:

I work in 3 different places (all have ac power), don't have an air compressor (have the tools, but the compressor died), can't afford one right now, and wouldn't want to drag it around if I did.

Pros:

It's strong; 450 lb-ft is nothing to sneeze at.

It's well priced; I paid $80, twice the cost of the HF, but twice the torque and a name brand.

It looks pretty cool (always important in tools, right?).

Cons:

Heavy.

Long.

No variable speed control; it's either on or off, so be careful putting lugs back on!
 

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My parents gave me a Craftsman for Christmas in 1966. I've replaced the cord and brushes. It's not a heavyweight, but it worked until I got air. I mainly use it for lag bolts and things like that.
 

Sugarfryz

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Corded impacts aren't strong at all or otherwise I'd buy one for home. For some reason I don't understand the cordless have much more power.
 

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I to am looking for an electric gun. I have the Ryobi batteries, and just cannt choose between a good corded one, or the corless Ryobi.

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Got 2 ancient Craftsman ones, one plastic and one aluminum one.
About the only time I use them is working on a combine, where I don't want to stir up a shitload of itchy dust.
Decent tools, but replaced by cordless stuff.
 

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I to am looking for an electric gun. I have the Ryobi batteries, and just cannt choose between a good corded one, or the corless Ryobi.

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Not to get off topic but the newest ryobi impact with 3 speed settings is amazing for what it costs. it hits pretty hard, I have no problem believing the 300 ftlb rating.

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Not to get off topic but the newest ryobi impact with 3 speed settings is amazing for what it costs. it hits pretty hard, I have no problem believing the 300 ftlb rating.

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This is good to hear... Thanks

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Not sufficient air supply currently, I have a 20 gallon chinese unit, extreamly noisy but i get by with it. Not worth using for wheels ect, ideal for painting and other small DIY jobs, but doesnt work for the Impacts.

So Im looking at-
5000 for a decent compressor( IR shopmate 20g/Powermate 60gallon )+ cost air hose+ impact wrench.
3800 for a m18 impact High tq kit.
1600 for a corded milwaukee.

Prices in TTD.

That compressor might be ok for impact use IF you reduce some of the restrictions it has. The regulators on smaller compressors are super restrictive. Even at the full 150psi, my old Kobalt 30 gallon could not supply but about 60psi to my impact while it was running through a short hose equipped with high flow fittings. This made the tool anemic to say the least. 3/8'' regulators that aren't very restrictive are dirt cheap(less than $20 including shipping). One of those might be worth trying, then you could always upgrade to a better quality regulator later on.
 

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I to am looking for an electric gun. I have the Ryobi batteries, and just cannt choose between a good corded one, or the corless Ryobi.

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I use the following impacts on a regular basis

DeWalt 1/4" hex impact (work)

Milwaukee fuel M12 1/4" hex impact (work)
Milwaukee M18 1/4" hex impact (work)
Milwaukee fuel M18 3/8" square impact (personal)

Ryobi 18v 1/4" hex impact (personal)blue
Ryobi 18v 1/4" hex impact (Personal) green
Ryobi 18v 1/2" square impact (personal) green

The 1/2" Ryobi is the most powerful over any of the 1/4" hex with a 1/2" square adapter. It is slightly stronger than my 3/8" Milwaukee but doesn't fit in small spaces.

I also have a 1/2" Marco air gun and a 3/8" Craftsman air gun. I would consider a 1/2" corded in DeWalt of Milwaukee over dragging a compressor if I didn't have a PowerTank (co2 system that goes up over 150psi)
 

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I have a very old, large 1/2 corded impact that came from Montgomery Ward perhaps 40 years ago and also was sold as other brands. I bought it because I had no compressor. It works fine for tires, etc. but does not have the power of the 1/2 air guns. I think the last time I used it was trying to remove a trailer hitch that had been on a Jeep for 15 years. It did not have enough power for some of the stuck bolts. Even the air gun took a while.

I don't use a cordless impact much, though I have one. A friend who is a boat mechanic uses them constantly, as he has smaller stuck bolts and nuts every day.
 

HomeTheaterMan

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I have used one before(an el cheapo), and I don't feel like it hit any harder than my 18v Makita. In my view the only 2 ways to go are cordless for convenience and air for power. the plug in ones are the worst of both worlds low power and inconvenient. The only exception would be Sal's scenario where you just don't have the money for the other 2.
I feel the same way. I've used a Dewalt one and felt like it was the worst of both worlds. It was huge, bulky, the power of air wasn't there, the power was either on or off pretty much which made it near impossible to control the power. I just didn't like it at all.

Air is the way to go if you need power imo.
 

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Corded impacts aren't strong at all or otherwise I'd buy one for home. For some reason I don't understand the cordless have much more power.

The tool companies have really focused on improving their cordless tools. That's where the big money is for them, so they've neglected lots of other things. Including their corded tools.
 

FlushingDIYer

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I bought this cordless Makita:
Makita XWT08Z LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless High Torque Square Drive Impact Wrench, 18V/1/2" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CA04RH4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jARHzbJ31YWBR

Tons of power. It's downfall is that it's huge and heavy. Hard to use in tight spot and a sore arm working under a car.

Being that I bought into the LXT system for home repair three years ago, I have really thought about going for this cordless impact. But man, it's so heavy! I doubt with the stuff I do I'd ever really need that much power. I wish Makita would do a mid-torque like Milwaukee. They only have the XWT02Z which puts out 210lbs and this one that does 700lbs .Talk about extremes! And to top it off, the XWT02Z costs more than the Milwaukee mid-torque!
 

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Being that I bought into the LXT system for home repair three years ago, I have really thought about going for this cordless impact. But man, it's so heavy! I doubt with the stuff I do I'd ever really need that much power. I wish Makita would do a mid-torque like Milwaukee. They only have the XWT02Z which puts out 210lbs and this one that does 700lbs .Talk about extremes! And to top it off, the XWT02Z costs more than the Milwaukee mid-torque!

This is why which cordless system one gets into is so important.
 

FlushingDIYer

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This is why which cordless system one gets into is so important.

Absolutely. I really wish I'd come on here before buying anything. I love my Makita and it's been great for everything I've used it for. But their range of impact wrenches leaves much to be desired.

RealToolReviews suggests always having two systems. But it just seems so wasteful to me. I would've been much better served going with Milwaukee from the beginning. :sad:
 

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Being that I bought into the LXT system for home repair three years ago, I have really thought about going for this cordless impact. But man, it's so heavy! I doubt with the stuff I do I'd ever really need that much power. I wish Makita would do a mid-torque like Milwaukee. They only have the XWT02Z which puts out 210lbs and this one that does 700lbs .Talk about extremes! And to top it off, the XWT02Z costs more than the Milwaukee mid-torque!

I have the previous models of both of those, no need for a mid torque.
 

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I have like a 10 year old Makita corded impact gun. I honestly regret buying it, just doesn't have much power and you might as well use an air impact if you are going to have to have to fish around for an extension cord that is the right length. Not much different than an air hose.

I would only go with air or cordless, not corded. But some people may have a specific use for something like that.

Even though you would think that a corded tool should be more powerful than a cordless, it seems like all the R&D and improvements are on the cordless stuff now.
 

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The tool companies have really focused on improving their cordless tools. That's where the big money is for them, so they've neglected lots of other things. Including their corded tools.

I don't know about that; the Porter-Cable I just bought is so new that it isn't even on their website, and its 450 lb-ft of torque is better than any other corded impact I looked at.

It's big and doesn't have a variable trigger; for $80, though...
 

mrbillh

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Have a 20yo Craftsman, used it to break head bolts loose in chrysler big blocks (maybe 3 or 4?). Also has been used to remove lug nuts. At the time I didn't have a compressor and still have not bought an air impact.
 
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