Last I knew Greyhound has a 100lb weight limit.
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Royce, that is definitely real cool! Nice work. Does the design effect the center of gravity since the vise is sitting up in the front? Or does the base plate just weigh so much that tippage ain't a problem?
Royce, that is definitely real cool! Nice work. Does the design effect the center of gravity since the vise is sitting up in the front? Or does the base plate just weigh so much that tippage ain't a problem?
KMScott
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I like them Royce. Would love to see how you made the first one with the curvy pipe. Wish I had access to steel like you do. I want so bad to make more stands. Keep up the good work.
I like them Royce. Would love to see how you made the first one with the curvy pipe. Wish I had access to steel like you do. I want so bad to make more stands. Keep up the good work.
FMC1959
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As i have stated before, doctor is too general a name for you Kevin, you are a surgeon! Great work as usual.
Great pics VA. Happened to see this in one of the related Pinterest photos, looks handy, think I'm going to have to make one of these!
So basic and simple, yet, a fantastic idea.
Here are some pics of the Columbian I posted about a few minutes ago. The silver thing on top of the jaws is a Leatherman for size reference.
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I have a Columbian 604 with that same green, but i know mine is a repaint, as is yours. No MFR ever painted the slide. I have a 204 1/2 I bought new and it has that battleship grey color
I think Kevin meant to post it on this thread to share the procedure, like he does....everyone benefits
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I should clarify. I haven't yet tried removing the jaw pins. I'm going to get those out after the paint is stripped so I can see where they are. I was referring to the pin on the bottom of the base that holds in the main nut. I decided to leave it after not even an oxy torch and an air chisel would budge it.
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The pins are pressed in, I have not found one yet that I could not pound up from underneath the base. The pins are nominal sizes and can be replaced wirh store purchased bar stock.
ritestuff
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I haven't used Greyhound for shipping for at least 15 years, but I used them many times in the past to ship large, awkward classic car parts. I stopped using them after they "lost" a NOS '70 Challenger fender, only to inform me that the insurance that was included in the shipping fee only covers $100 of the shipped item's value. On a positive note, they paid out the 100 bucks fairly quickly on the $1200 fender that they somehow "misplaced".
Crawfish I wouldnt try removing the jaws either. Leave them be. You have the T style jaws and theres really no reason to remove them. You can clean and paint around them. If you are thinking of removing the jaws so you can replace them,i wouldnt do that either. Currently there was only 1 person that made aftermarket jaws for this vise and he is no longer making them since theyre such a pain in the ****. Just my personal opinion. No reason for you to create more work for yourself.
tdcisco1
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IS that first one a cut away of a large weld bend 90 ? They,re both beauties !
IS that first one a cut away of a large weld bend 90 ? They,re both beauties !
MacMcMacmac
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Are Eron vises considered decent? I saw this one for sale at a flea market near Ottawa and was wondering if an Eron 150 was worth the $165 asking price. Never heard of them but it looks sturdy enough.
I think Eron vises are Japanese clones of Record vises. From what ive heard in the past, they aren't a bad vise. Probably one of the better ones that has come out of Asia.
sandman54
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I shipped 1k 1100 miles 275.00 Fastenal Sandman great looking stands Royce!!!
Outlawmws
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They are Japanese, They are well made; I don't think they are $165 well made however...
454ragtop
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Got my first CWV!!! Didn't really want it but it was part of a pkg deal with the small vise, that I really wanted. Paid $40. for the pr. from CL yesterday. As CWV's go, it seems to be in good shape, no missing jaws or issues. No manual lock for the upper rotation, it seems to lock up wherever you have it once you tighten the jaws, thought that was pretty interesting.
Then today I went to a car show with a small swap meet and found the Wilton, 3-1/2" jaws, pretty minty, other than a little patina that needs to be cleaned up. Can't really say what it cost, as I plan to resell, but it was stupid cheap. 9-77 date on the slide. Haven't decided if I'm going to repaint or just clean it up, OEM paint job is pretty bad, with runs and thin spots.
Then today I went to a car show with a small swap meet and found the Wilton, 3-1/2" jaws, pretty minty, other than a little patina that needs to be cleaned up. Can't really say what it cost, as I plan to resell, but it was stupid cheap. 9-77 date on the slide. Haven't decided if I'm going to repaint or just clean it up, OEM paint job is pretty bad, with runs and thin spots.
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Nothing wrong with the CWV! Heck I had to take one in a $60 package deal a couple months ago. Ended up selling the CWV for $30. Your bullet should clean up well as it appears in good shape. Good score.
454ragtop
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Looks like a pretty sad example of an exposed screw homeowner grade vise, nothing special, and not worth very much. Kind of looks like it may be broken where the dynamic slides into the static jaw. Might not be, but that area looks suspect in the pic.
454ragtop
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No idea where you are, or how tough vises are to come by there, but around here you'd have a hard time getting $10. for that vise in that condition. Even if it isn't broken where it looks like it is, it's missing the swivel lock handle and the ball on the main handle. Even in good shape, that's at best a $25. vise on a good day, and probably most wouldn't pay that, again, at least around here. Think you'd be better off looking for a better vise, or at least one in better shape.
Thanks for the input! Just finally scored my first wilton the other day so fairly hard to come by here... just didn't know if this was an opportunity to scoop up a decent deal. I'll pass. They want 25
I've seen those tiny eclipse vises a few times and they always make me think of the Eclipse line of vises made by Chas Parker . I doubt that tiny vise is any relation to the Parker vises though. There was a UK company making clones of Record vises and they also called them Eclipse vises as well. That little vise isn't really worth a whole lot. The exposed screw makes them not highly sought after. I suppose 10-20 dollars would be tops.
Shiftless
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Major score for only $3
Great job on the clean up and the fabrication.
Like va.grouseman said last week, how did you attach the ball bearings?
Drill and swage? Drill and tap?
Great job on the clean up and the fabrication.
Like va.grouseman said last week, how did you attach the ball bearings?
Drill and swage? Drill and tap?
FMC1959
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I agree with Outlaw, decent vise but not $165 worth. I have seen an Eron sided by side to a Record, similar but especially on bigger sizes, the Records are more stout.
If you are in the Ottawa area, check Kijiji for Ontario and Quebec. Tons of Records for sale. Always someone who thinks his is worth $200-$400, but most go for $100 or less (that Eron is a 6" btw)
Don't ask me from where i got the info, but i recall Eclipse vises being made by Milwaukee Tool Group (Milwaukee as in Morgan vises, not the maker of all the red tools)
$3! Excellent, cheers!
royce
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Thanks Bcom,
The blind flange is about 460#, more than enough to counterweight the vise and what ever is in it.
Royce
Thanks Bcom,
The blind flange is about 460#, more than enough to counterweight the vise and what ever is in it.
Royce
royce
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Re: Two more stands
Kevin,
That was the throat of a 18" tube turn,
Here is a pic of the heel from the same fitting, used on another project.
Stands are sure fun to make, they don't take gobs of time to make or lots of materials.
Thank you
Royce
Kevin,
That was the throat of a 18" tube turn,
Here is a pic of the heel from the same fitting, used on another project.
Stands are sure fun to make, they don't take gobs of time to make or lots of materials.
Thank you
Royce
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dutchgray
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I wouldn't think it has any connection to the English Eclipse, I have never seen one of those here or even one for sale on ebay.
Eclipse only ever had a few cheap small vices branded as far as I am aware, the current ones they sell are Asian made. Eclipse is a tool company that is a shadow of its former self.
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Yup. Japanese and very good quality to be honest. I have one with a swivel base...I like it a lot. However, I paid $40...
akasrick
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Looks like whoever made them couldn't settle on a design.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361863
va.grouseman
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Shift, they had to be welded on or else Dean1969 has got to tell me how he drilled two holes in big ball bearings.---My cobalts won't even touch them.---You could core drill them with hollow diamond coated core bits, but that would take weeks, and then they would have to be swaged or he is going to have to tell me how he threaded a ball bearing.---I'm still going with welded.
joe.striper
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Here is the bottom of an Oberburg ball mount machinist vise. It has 4.5" jaws, can rotate 360 degrees and the base has detentes every 10 degrees. The vise can pitch 30 degrees. One large handle on the bottom can lock the vise into the chosen position for milling. It weighs about 60 lbs.
When I got it the entire vise was welded together with very old dried grease and oil. That made this a pain in the *** to disassemble, never mind that I had no idea how it came apart!
This is the most sophisticated vise I've ever restored. The tolerances are incredibly tight. To assemble it I used a medium acrylic hammer and some super slippery light oil. I usually dry fit my vises prior to full assemble but it wasn't happening on this one. One cool thing is that when I assembled the rotating base I had coated it with the oil, once assembled you can hear the oil gurgling as the pieces move against each other. The base is as smooth as it it were hydraulic.
If you look closely you will see the very top of the ball, where the machinist vise mounts, has been hand scraped.
I put these pics up because you cannot see the inner-workings when the vise is assembled and also because the vise section is still in my Simple Green tank having the paint stripped.
I will post pics when it is 100% complete
When I got it the entire vise was welded together with very old dried grease and oil. That made this a pain in the *** to disassemble, never mind that I had no idea how it came apart!
This is the most sophisticated vise I've ever restored. The tolerances are incredibly tight. To assemble it I used a medium acrylic hammer and some super slippery light oil. I usually dry fit my vises prior to full assemble but it wasn't happening on this one. One cool thing is that when I assembled the rotating base I had coated it with the oil, once assembled you can hear the oil gurgling as the pieces move against each other. The base is as smooth as it it were hydraulic.
If you look closely you will see the very top of the ball, where the machinist vise mounts, has been hand scraped.
I put these pics up because you cannot see the inner-workings when the vise is assembled and also because the vise section is still in my Simple Green tank having the paint stripped.
I will post pics when it is 100% complete
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Very Nice !!!
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Shift, they had to be welded on or else Dean1969 has got to tell me how he drilled two holes in big ball bearings.---My cobalts won't even touch them.---You could core drill them with hollow diamond coated core bits, but that would take weeks, and then they would have to be swaged or he is going to have to tell me how he threaded a ball bearing.---I'm still going with welded.
VA, I have had a lot of luck buying large metal balls on ebay that haven't been hardened or chromed. They drill great and tap great.
these are normally sold for use in monkey fists.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ten-1-Inch-...an-machined-/291939271750?hash=item43f8efc446
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Shift, they had to be welded on or else Dean1969 has got to tell me how he drilled two holes in big ball bearings.---My cobalts won't even touch them.---You could core drill them with hollow diamond coated core bits, but that would take weeks, and then they would have to be swaged or he is going to have to tell me how he threaded a ball bearing.---I'm still going with welded.
you could heat them up cherry red to take the temper out of them enough to drill, easily