Recommendations for recessed LED fixtures

[NebrTd]

Looking for ideas on recessed LED fixtures that fit between 16" center floor joists. The area is 28 x 20 with 8' ceiling and will be used for fabrication as well as task lighting over a mill and lathe.
I have used and like the T8 LED tube fixtures but I really want to keep the full 8' ceiling height if possible.

 

[850xpeps]

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p....MI__y4nIqN1gIViFx-Ch0w6AVIEAQYBCABEgKHZvD_BwE

Have similar 4" lights in my kitchen and living room. Wicked spread nice light.

 

[ard]

I've seen some flush mount 'troffers'- that are 1x4- and would work in your 16" spacing (i.e. Lengthwise)

However, they can be pretty expensive.

 

[Platonic Solid]

A little creative thinking and an LED edge lit panel would work.
http://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/LEDPNL1X4-40W-p/ledpnl1x4-40w.htm

You could actually surface mount these if you make some custom retaining molding as the panel is less than 1 inch thick. Just take note of where the driver box sticks out the back as you will need a hole in the ceiling in that location.

If you did surface mount, you could use any size panel: 1x4, 2x2, 2x4

This is not to be confused with the surface mount kit they sell which will not give you recessed flush mounting.

 

[ddawg16]

I installed a few 4" LED lights.

Lots of different option....

Because they are LED, you don't need as much space up in it or have to worry about IC rated cans. The days of actual cans is about done....

Try this site for ideas...

https://www.houzz.com/photos/query/led-recessed/nqrwns

 

[Platonic Solid]

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Because they are LED, you don't need as much space up in it or have to worry about IC rated cans. The days of actual cans is about done...

This is not true. LEDs in recessed cans still require IC rated cans.

 

[JRC3]

I just installed these in an older lady's kitchen because she has trouble seeing. 6 fixtures in a 17x10 space and had to install a dimmer. These go on sale, I want to say I got them for 10 or 12 bucks each.

21.5 Watts
1290 Lumens
3000K (5000K also available)

3000K: https://www.menards.com/main/lighti...86-c-7499.htm?tid=-1528891788582390271&ipos=9
5000K: https://www.menards.com/main/lighti...32-c-7499.htm?tid=-1528891788582390271&ipos=7

Remodel housing: https://www.menards.com/main/lighti...1-c-7499.htm?tid=-9096927999745633771&ipos=22

I think the 6 pack of fixtures are a little less. Buy them all at the right time on sale and you might get by around $20 a light. Guesstimate 18-21 lights total = $360-420.

 

[NebrTd]

Not sure that I want can lights? I was thinking more of the troffer style or something like Platonic Solid posted. Thanks for all of the input so far.

 

[ddawg16]

This is not true. LEDs in recessed cans still require IC rated cans.

Only if in contact with insulation...

 

[Platonic Solid]

Only if in contact with insulation...

Agreed. Regardless of lighting technology (incandescent, fluorescent, or LED) a recessed can in contact with insulation must be IC rated. It's a common misconception that LEDs don't generate very much heat, whereas most of these compact screw base LED bulbs and can style retrofits get hot enough to be a safety concern.

 

[stm317]

I've only had my troffer panels for about a month, and these particular ones are 2x4, so they wouldn't work for you, but you can easily imagine these being 1ft x 4ft. I'm pleased with them so far, and if the manufacturer specs can be trusted, they seem pretty efficient. Insulation and ceiling obviously aren't up yet, but they light it up well enough, and the flush/recessed nature should allow maximum overhead clearance and reduce the need for dusting/clean up.

https://scontent-ort2-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20507295_10103055840767674_4959884492121106213_o.jpg?oh=b1db97167dc128817e41e75015c71a87&oe=5A38446C

 

[Cairo94507]

Wow. I am just ordering stuff for my home garage remodel. It is only a 3-car, 33X27 with a 9 foot ceiling. I have been agonizing over light fixtures as I want more then enough lighting. I plan to triple-switch it so I can turn it on as necessary. However I could not find good flush mount, clean looking LED fixtures. I have looked at these fixtures above, "Troffer" and they come in multiple sizes and tubes. I would also augment these with 6" LED cans where needed. I do not want anything hanging down from the ceiling at all. Looking for a very clean look. I think these might do the trick.

Also just ordered a 5HP/60 gallon vertical Ingersoll-Rand compressor (they are local to me and gave me a good deal if I pick it up), as well as a BendPak mid-rise flush install scissor lift to go in the center bay.

The compressor was the hardest decision as there are many options out there. What I learned was for the quietest possible operation, you want a motor turning at the lowest RPM possible as it is the RPM's that make the noise. Most were in the 3,500 RPM range. I found a handful in the 950 RPM range and that was how I narrowed it down. Then finding that Ingersoll-Rand made one running in that range, and being local to me, about 30 miles from my home, sealed the deal. That way if I ever have issues I can go straight to the source. I do not know yet if I will install it inside the garage or outside in a separate little "house" to reduce noise levels even further.

Also going to do a porcelain tile floor to keep it clean. Thanks for reading.
Michael

 

[NebrTd]

This is what I ended up doing for my recessed lights. The lights are 1x4 edge lit 40w LEDs.

 

[75gmck25]

The other thing I find very frustrating about buying these LED fixtures is that the configurations and prices seem to be changing frequently.

For example, a fixture that may have sold 3 months ago in multiple parts (can, bulb, trim, etc.) could cost $60-70 total, but then you find out Costco or Amazon now has what appears to be an equivalent fixture for a price of $25-30 each if you buy them in a box of four. Its very hard to know if you are losing any performance or reliabiity with the discount fixture, or if its just economy of scale from the manufacturer.

Bruce

 

[PhysicsDude]

Looks very nice! Do you mind posting which exact LED fixtures you used and how you like them? There's quite a bit of variety. I've eye-balled some Hyperikon edge-lit panels on Amazon for a decent price, but not sure that they're the same quality and light output as bigger name brands.

Are you finishing the ceiling? Drywall?

 

[NebrTd]

The ceiling will be steel.

These lights are Envision brand off Amazon. I don't have anything to compare them to and I just lit them up for the first time, so I don't have any comparison.

 

[Bert_]

The ceiling will be steel.

As a general rule I don't recess anything when the interior is going to be steel panels. It just doesn't work the best cutting a bunch of holes and trying to trim around all those openings.

I'd be looking at surface mount options personally.

 

[cybrdyke]

Snap in LED panels look great in a metal ceiling.

They only leave a 1/2" reveal, which is white.
These panels are from Liteline www.liteline.com and are available in 1x1, 1x2, 1x4, 2x2, and 2x4. There is a template provided for cutting the holes for the clips and the driver.
One issue is how it would fit against any ribs that are in your metal.
Good luck,
CD

 

[BobLon]

A little creative thinking and an LED edge lit panel would work.
http://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/LEDPNL1X4-40W-p/ledpnl1x4-40w.htm

You could actually surface mount these if you make some custom retaining molding as the panel is less than 1 inch thick. Just take note of where the driver box sticks out the back as you will need a hole in the ceiling in that location.

If you did surface mount, you could use any size panel: 1x4, 2x2, 2x4

This is not to be confused with the surface mount kit they sell which will not give you recessed flush mounting.

These look like a really nice light for the price. Lots of lumens at 5000k. And dimmable, love that.

So, with the 'custom retaining molding', it applied to a finished ceiling will heat NOT be a factor.

Seriously considering these.

BobL.

 

[Platonic Solid]

BobLon - Those do not put out enough heat to be a safety concern.

 

[NebrTd]

As a general rule I don't recess anything when the interior is going to be steel panels. It just doesn't work the best cutting a bunch of holes and trying to trim around all those openings.

I'd be looking at surface mount options personally.

This is not the easy way for sure. This is just what I figured out for what I wanted.