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Bendpak XPR-10S review

To start with, I would be grossly remiss if I didn’t bring up the woeful excuse for an installation manual supplied with this lift, the omissions and mistakes are so prevalent it will be hard to mention most of them in this writing.
One of the first glaring items comes with the instructions to install the equalizer cables, the manual fails to mention that the location of the lockplate the cable buttons need to be inserted into is buried in the middle of the carriage and takes a very thin arm to be able to reach the slot, all unsighted.
The manual also does not mention that there is no method to lock the cable into place once it is in the slot. Any service work that might require one side to be lifted will easily dislodge the cable from the locking slot and require much additional work to relocate it, a very poor design.
One of the six cable sheaves was very poorly machined, one side of the sheave was machined far passed the normal edge location, making the edge razor sharp, and the surface of that side of the cable contact area has a very prominent undulation, totally unusable, Bendpak was asked to replace the sheave, which they agreed to, but decided to ship it by FedX ground, from California, one week.
The safety lock release cable pulley mounted to the safety switch side of the top bar was welded to the wrong side of the plate, left to right, it was cut back off and re-welded to the correct side leaving a mess which was subsequently painted over.
The welded mounts for the safety switch bar mounted to the top crossbar had holes drilled in them at 9mm and nearly 11mm yet supplied with 8mm bolts & nuts, the hole in the sliding end bracket had a hole in it over 11mm.
Both ends of the welded brackets and the bar mounting brackets had to be drilled and fitted with 7/16” bolts to take the slop out of the fit. After fitting the properly sized bolts, the bar would then hit the edge of the welded switch box so it couldn’t reach the switch operator, likely the reason they supplied 8mm bolts to the larger holes, the switchbox edge had to be ground to accommodate the bar location.
The mounting holes for the safety switch cover were drilled too small to accommodate the screws supplied, even after scraping the paint from the inside of the holes. The original screws were scrapped and proper sized and fit screws were used.
The torsion springs that mount on the ends of each of the carriage lock pivot pins are wound opposite of the ones in the manual drawing.
The power unit motor supplied with this unit is not the one depicted in the manual, not even close, the motor supplied with this lift has the model number they show for this lift but is far different than the one in their manual and in their records.
Two of the seven wires coming out of the motor inside the control box were not connected to anything, the wires had terminals on them but were not connected. This motor is a cap start/cap run motor, not like the one depicted in their manual, I contacted Bendpak about it and requested a correct schematic of the motor controls, they sent me the same drawing as in the manual.
I again reiterated the differences in the motors, even sent them pictures, and finally a line drawing I had to make of what was in the control box, so far I have heard nothing back from Bendpak, it’s been three days now, I have been corresponding with a guy named Simon. The lift sits idle until wiring instructions from Bendpak arrive.
The electrical drawing and the power wiring for a 220vac unit are incorrect, they show , black/white/ green wires, black white and green are the colors used for 120vac In the US, they also call the white a neutral, which is also properly called out for a 120vac system. These lift power units do not operate at 120vac. 220vac systems are supposed to call out black/black/green for power, at least in the 18 countries I’ve worked in.
The columns supplied with this lift are a primer gray color, not blue as depicted in their adverts, the columns had numerous large scrapes and abrasions which look like they came from rough handling at the manufacturer end of the chain. Bendpak loaded the flatbed trailer that was requested to minimize the potential for handling damage, the lift had not been moved on the trailer from Bendpak to me and was not damaged by my forklift in any way when unloading.
To date, two months later, after numerous attempts to get Bendpak to supply a proper electric schematic of the motor/capacitor connections, all they have supplied is the lame schematic shown in the manual which does not depict the proper connections from the motor to the two start/run capacitors.
They have consistently stated they do not have the information on the product they sell and the supervisor of Simon the genius named Gary, email address supplied, stated that nobody should be concerned with the capacitor connections, that after receiving the unit in an inoperable conditions with wires not connected and not sure of the safety of applying power to a unit with existing connection issues.
The lift is still sitting powerless waiting for an intelligent response from Bendpak, TWO MONTHS ON.
One should seriously consider finding an alternative lift supplier than Bendpak.
After two months of no response to my requests for documentation on how this unit is supposed to be wired I advised Bendpak if I had no resolution to this issue I would be forced to make this issue public, pay attention people, the lift seems to be built reasonably well from something from uncle Fong’s lift garage, but the people responsible for it’s sale and service have fallen off the edge of acceptability.
I will gladly provide the email trail of responses to me from Bendpak upon request.
The email addresses of the unresponsive parties are:
[email protected]
[email protected]
By the way, Brian at ASEdeals has been very helpful in attempting to resolve this issue, unfortunately, Bendpak has fallen far short of expectations.
Gary B.
[email protected]
 
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The columns are gray, not blue? Pictures please.

I had several small problems w my XPR-10XC but nothing like you describe. I use it frequently, just had an '02 CTD ECLB 4x4 on it yesterday, wife's '05 Yukon day before.

I agree my installation manual was terrible, most of it was just "figure it out." I opted for the -168 option (2' extra overhead clearance) and there were ZERO instructions on that. Fortunately the only bolts not mentioned in the manual happened to correspond w the quantity and hole size of that part of the lift, so again I just muddled through and figured it out.

It sounds like you either didn't get a BP or they've recently farmed out to a terrible supplier.
 

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I bought a "Rotary" American Made and American Tested lift... for such a critical lifting device.

With all the bad press from actual Bendpak users here on this site... to do otherwise is a true roll of the dice.
 

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Also you state black/black/green but I've always seen black/red/green

I have no problem with someone using black/white/green for short runs on machinery connections as that is readily available far more than a 3 wire black/red/green. Calling the white neutral ain't right but it's obvious that should be a hot. If in doubt it's easy to trace the green to confirm the original party threw it under a ground screw. When you're only dealing w 2 hots and a ground colors ain't that important, ESPECIALLY (and only, really) when you're needing to work w a production three-wire cord. A little red electrical tape on both ends of the white might make you feel better.
 

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I bought a "Rotary" American Made and American Tested lift... for such a critical lifting device.

With all the bad press from actual Bendpak users here on this site... to do otherwise is a true roll of the dice.

It amazes me how many people buy these crappy lifts. On this site alone there are hundreds of people that have major issue with these crappy lifts.

I really don't understand why people keep buying them.. Rotary all the way..

Sorry for your issues. See if they will take it back.:headscrat:
 

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I really don't understand why people keep buying them.. Rotary all the way..

Well, Bendpak has a 4 poster that's just over 8 feet wide. From what I can tell, Rotary's narrowest 4 post is almost 11 feet wide. That right there will eliminate Rotary from my garage when I buy, because space is tight in there and I don't have the luxury of being able to take up 3 more feet of space.

If someone can point me to an 8 foot wide lift from a better manufacturer, I'd be happy to jump on it.
 

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It amazes me how many people buy these crappy lifts. On this site alone there are hundreds of people that have major issue with these crappy lifts.

I really don't understand why people keep buying them.. Rotary all the way..

Sorry for your issues. See if they will take it back.:headscrat:

I love posts like this.

I guess I'm supposed to have a full compliment of Snap on tools, including a $12000 box, a $7000 Rotary lift in my shop with Lista cabinets and spotless epoxy coated floors, mow my lawn with a $12000 commercial mower that I tow with my $75000 Cummings Diesel dually and drive my $160000 Porsche to the grocery store.

People have budget constraints in real life.

Some of you don't get it, though.
 

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Ok, here we go, a gray BP, specified as such in the item description
https://www.bestbuyautoequipment.co...MIvPnsn4vr1QIVBrjACh31IgA7EAQYASABEgIX1fD_BwE

I'm a little unclear why the OP would let a lift sit for 2 months. Why not get on this forum and ask for other owners to post a pic of their electrical as this seems to be the only reason he claims the lift remains inoperable.

Or call an electrician if you must.

This feels a little like "I'm helpless and now I want to complain." I hope I'm wrong but anytime you show up new on a forum and your first post is post #1 here some of us are gonna wonder if there's a hidden agenda.

As I've said I agree BP's manuals and possibly their communication is bad, but I'd look for other solutions that don't involve a lift sitting idle for 2 months.
 

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Bendpak XPR-10S review

To start with, I would be grossly remiss if I didn’t bring up the woeful excuse for an installation manual supplied with this lift, the omissions and mistakes are so prevalent it will be hard to mention most of them in this writing.
One of the first glaring items comes with the instructions to install the equalizer cables, the manual fails to mention that the location of the lockplate the cable buttons need to be inserted into is buried in the middle of the carriage and takes a very thin arm to be able to reach the slot, all unsighted.
The manual also does not mention that there is no method to lock the cable into place once it is in the slot. Any service work that might require one side to be lifted will easily dislodge the cable from the locking slot and require much additional work to relocate it, a very poor design.
One of the six cable sheaves was very poorly machined, one side of the sheave was machined far passed the normal edge location, making the edge razor sharp, and the surface of that side of the cable contact area has a very prominent undulation, totally unusable, Bendpak was asked to replace the sheave, which they agreed to, but decided to ship it by FedX ground, from California, one week.
The safety lock release cable pulley mounted to the safety switch side of the top bar was welded to the wrong side of the plate, left to right, it was cut back off and re-welded to the correct side leaving a mess which was subsequently painted over.
The welded mounts for the safety switch bar mounted to the top crossbar had holes drilled in them at 9mm and nearly 11mm yet supplied with 8mm bolts & nuts, the hole in the sliding end bracket had a hole in it over 11mm.
Both ends of the welded brackets and the bar mounting brackets had to be drilled and fitted with 7/16” bolts to take the slop out of the fit. After fitting the properly sized bolts, the bar would then hit the edge of the welded switch box so it couldn’t reach the switch operator, likely the reason they supplied 8mm bolts to the larger holes, the switchbox edge had to be ground to accommodate the bar location.
The mounting holes for the safety switch cover were drilled too small to accommodate the screws supplied, even after scraping the paint from the inside of the holes. The original screws were scrapped and proper sized and fit screws were used.
The torsion springs that mount on the ends of each of the carriage lock pivot pins are wound opposite of the ones in the manual drawing.
The power unit motor supplied with this unit is not the one depicted in the manual, not even close, the motor supplied with this lift has the model number they show for this lift but is far different than the one in their manual and in their records.
Two of the seven wires coming out of the motor inside the control box were not connected to anything, the wires had terminals on them but were not connected. This motor is a cap start/cap run motor, not like the one depicted in their manual, I contacted Bendpak about it and requested a correct schematic of the motor controls, they sent me the same drawing as in the manual.
I again reiterated the differences in the motors, even sent them pictures, and finally a line drawing I had to make of what was in the control box, so far I have heard nothing back from Bendpak, it’s been three days now, I have been corresponding with a guy named Simon. The lift sits idle until wiring instructions from Bendpak arrive.
The electrical drawing and the power wiring for a 220vac unit are incorrect, they show , black/white/ green wires, black white and green are the colors used for 120vac In the US, they also call the white a neutral, which is also properly called out for a 120vac system. These lift power units do not operate at 120vac. 220vac systems are supposed to call out black/black/green for power, at least in the 18 countries I’ve worked in.
The columns supplied with this lift are a primer gray color, not blue as depicted in their adverts, the columns had numerous large scrapes and abrasions which look like they came from rough handling at the manufacturer end of the chain. Bendpak loaded the flatbed trailer that was requested to minimize the potential for handling damage, the lift had not been moved on the trailer from Bendpak to me and was not damaged by my forklift in any way when unloading.
To date, two months later, after numerous attempts to get Bendpak to supply a proper electric schematic of the motor/capacitor connections, all they have supplied is the lame schematic shown in the manual which does not depict the proper connections from the motor to the two start/run capacitors.
They have consistently stated they do not have the information on the product they sell and the supervisor of Simon the genius named Gary, email address supplied, stated that nobody should be concerned with the capacitor connections, that after receiving the unit in an inoperable conditions with wires not connected and not sure of the safety of applying power to a unit with existing connection issues.
The lift is still sitting powerless waiting for an intelligent response from Bendpak, TWO MONTHS ON.
One should seriously consider finding an alternative lift supplier than Bendpak.
After two months of no response to my requests for documentation on how this unit is supposed to be wired I advised Bendpak if I had no resolution to this issue I would be forced to make this issue public, pay attention people, the lift seems to be built reasonably well from something from uncle Fong’s lift garage, but the people responsible for it’s sale and service have fallen off the edge of acceptability.
I will gladly provide the email trail of responses to me from Bendpak upon request.
The email addresses of the unresponsive parties are:
[email protected]
[email protected]
By the way, Brian at ASEdeals has been very helpful in attempting to resolve this issue, unfortunately, Bendpak has fallen far short of expectations.
Gary B.
[email protected]

So it looks like you purchased from asedeals and you clearly state you expected the columns to be blue, but if I search "XPR-10s" at asedeals.com all the hits show the lift as gray so I'm not sure why this is a shocker?
http://www.asedeals.com/store/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=xpr-10s

I hope I'm wrong and you're a real consumer, in which case I'm sorry you've had such troubles.

I suspect you might fade from the forum after bashing BP. If you want to prove you're real try contributing actual tech to some other threads. There are threads about cordless power tools, automotive specialty tools, Harbor Freight tools, Snap-On tools, garage design and layout, etc etc etc
 

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I love posts like this.

I guess I'm supposed to have a full compliment of Snap on tools, including a $12000 box, a $7000 Rotary lift in my shop with Lista cabinets and spotless epoxy coated floors, mow my lawn with a $12000 commercial mower that I tow with my $75000 Cummings Diesel dually and drive my $160000 Porsche to the grocery store.

People have budget constraints in real life.

Some of you don't get it, though.

Or perhaps you are the one that doesn't "get it"?
Danglerb "get's it".
Most of America used to "get it".
Living within your means doesn't have to mean you buy substandard products.

Buy used or save up your money so you can buy quality, especially on a device where your life depends on it.

Shop around a little and you can usually get a quality used lift cheaper than a generic Chinese lift. Greg Smith is not a bad way to go if you don't mind paying more for less.
 
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Or perhaps you are the one that doesn't "get it"?
Danglerb "get's it".
Most of America used to "get it".
Living within your means doesn't have to mean you buy substandard products.

Buy used or save up your money so you can buy quality, especially on a device where your life depends on it.

I reject your argument.

There are plenty of Bendpack lifts successfully being used in commercial service.

I see them every day.

A Rotary is a good lift, and Snapon makes good tools, just like Ram makes a good Diesel truck.

But that doesn't relegate all of the competitive brands junk, unworthy of being purchased and used by your definition of a "true American".

Just like not everyone eats prime beef and lobster tail every day, there are choices out there to meet everyone's budget, duty cycle, and personal preferences.

Personally, I think your dog is ugly...... just kidding.
 

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I reject your argument.

There are plenty of Bendpack lifts successfully being used in commercial service.

I see them every day.

A Rotary is a good lift, and Snapon makes good tools, just like Ram makes a good Diesel truck.

But that doesn't relegate all of the competitive brands junk, unworthy of being purchased and used by your definition of a "true American".

Just like not everyone eats prime beef and lobster tail every day, there are choices out there to meet everyone's budget, duty cycle, and personal preferences.

Personally, I think your dog is ugly...... just kidding.

"Junk"... your word, not mine. I said sub standard.

"True American".. your words, not mine. I said American Made and American Tested.

“The Bitterness of Poor Quality remains long after the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten”.

A lot of those BendPak lifts you see everyday were made back when they didn't have the quality issues they have today.

Question: Does finn own a lift?
 
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This is like DeWalt vs Milwaukee or Ford vs Chevy

The Rotary guys (who I never realized we're so bloodthirsty) smell blood in the water and jump on it.

My BP (purchased '09) has been awesome. Only 3-4 times over the years has it lifted anything less than a fullsize SUV, and 95% of the use is full size trucks that are either long bed, ext cab, crew cab or some combination.

It's hard to argue w real world results.....the lift works and I'm not dead. NOW I don't know if BP's quality has recently declined. I can't say as I haven't seen or installed a new one (if we want to bother w pesky things like actual information and true personal experience)
 

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NOW I don't know if BP's quality has recently declined. I can't say as I haven't seen or installed a new one (if we want to bother w pesky things like actual information and true personal experience)

Bendpak's recent quality issues are well documented right here on The Garage Journal.

Actual information and true personal experiences are a mere click away. Some Good, Some Bad and Some Ugly.... https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=35817194

When folks are saying this... Caveat Emptor:

04-16-2017, 09:50 AM Bendpak decision: Good, Bad & Ugly
I wouldn't buy one, months to deliver my lift, poor fitting parts that took modification to get them together, flawed design with revised parts taking months to get made and sent. I wasted a year on this lift and although it's working, it's not great. I would not buy BendPak again, would have spent a bit more to get something better.
 
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BenPac in my shop and very happy with it.

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I'm always a little suspicious when people sign up for a site just to complain about some product.

And I note the OP still has a whopping post count of 2.

Both of those posts were identical: #1 in this thread and he copied and pasted the same thing into another 2-post lift thread
 

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Bendpak's recent quality issues are well documented right here on The Garage Journal.

Actual information and true personal experiences are a mere click away. Some Good, Some Bad and Some Ugly.... https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=35815660


When folks are saying this... Caveat Emptor:

04-16-2017, 09:50 AM Bendpak decision: Good, Bad & Ugly

"Sorry, no matches. Please try some different terms."

Corrected link:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358707
 

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Bendpak's recent quality issues are well documented right here on The Garage Journal.

Actual information and true personal experiences are a mere click away. Some Good, Some Bad and Some Ugly.... https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=35815660


When folks are saying this... Caveat Emptor:

04-16-2017, 09:50 AM Bendpak decision: Good, Bad & Ugly

So there's plenty of positive comments in that thread. I read through the whole thing just now.

Anyone basing their decision on lakeroadster's posts, read the whole thread (corrected link above).

I could go to Amazon for any one product and pick the single negative review and post here to make it look bad.

That said, the complaints of apparently dwindling quality are concerning.
 
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My experience with Bendpac has been totally positive. They are a company that wants to make it right.
One of the situations many companies experience is product copy violations. If for any reason a person thinks there is something suspicious about something they bought from a business other than Bendpac, it might be wise to notify Bendpac first. I am sure they would like to know sooner than later.
Color, poorly done assembly manual and quality of the product would be three things that would raise my suspicions.
Once I get my 1940 Ford out of the shop and on the road, I will be buying a BENDPAC four post lift for my shop. My positive experience with Bendpac has moved that company into my first choice.
 

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If you buy from a lift from a dealer, isn't it the dealers responsibility to make sure you are satisfied. My thoughts are the OP should be complaining about the dealer who sold him a bad lift, not the manufacturer.

i go by a place called Babco Equipment that sells Bendpac often, they have multiple service vans and trucks. I am not a lift owner, but i am sure if i buy a lift from a local company. They would stand behind the products they sell and help with wiring and missing parts
 

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If you buy from a lift from a dealer, isn't it the dealers responsibility to make sure you are satisfied. My thoughts are the OP should be complaining about the dealer who sold him a bad lift, not the manufacturer.

i go by a place called Babco Equipment that sells Bendpac often, they have multiple service vans and trucks. I am not a lift owner, but i am sure if i buy a lift from a local company. They would stand behind the products they sell and help with wiring and missing parts

He says asedeals has tried their best.

I also agree with the suggestion in the other thread to use a cc you trust to stand behind you. If you can't resolve damage or function issues with the manufacturer and dealer, dispute the charge 100%. Basically lemon law - they sold you a lift that doesn't actually work as a lift.

But I still don't understand reasoning of sitting on your thumbs for 2 months. I've been in similar situations and I start looking elsewhere for answers. Other owners, electricians....there are some shops here w rows of BP's......I'd walk in and ask if I can pull a cover and snap a shot of the electrical. Asking nicely and a small bribe (maybe a gift card to a local eatery) would get you into 99% of shops and even dealerships. It can't be THAT hard, be resourceful!!!!
 

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"Sorry, no matches. Please try some different terms."

Corrected link:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358707

Thanks..

So there's plenty of positive comments in that thread. I read through the whole thing just now.

Anyone basing their decision on lakeroadster's posts, read the whole thread (corrected link above).

I could go to Amazon for any one product and pick the single negative review and post here to make it look bad.

That said, the complaints of apparently dwindling quality are concerning.



The corrected link isn't the one I originally posted. I fixed it... and will post here also. It's a list of BendPak threads.. every thread with BendPak in the title: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=35817194

I don't have a dog in the hunt when it comes to Bendpak. All I know about them is what I read here... and it sounds like there are issues with the newer made lifts that their older lifts never had.

DerStig's thread shows some major quality issues; https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354731&highlight=lift

And this defective arm lock thread is truly frightening; https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366494&highlight=BendPak
 
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I responded to a Craigslist advertisement for Bendpac four post for sale. The seller had installed the hoist himself rather than spending a couple hundred dollars to have the professional BP installers do the work. When he started to have problems, he put the hoist for sale. One of the problems was jamming on the lowering sequence. The right front platform collar jammed on the post and the other thee collars continued to go down. The slack cable switch was not working. The seller was asking way too much for an older used lift at $350 less than a new similar lift from the local BP distributor. The final coup-de-gras was when the seller started to vigorously shake the RF column to release the jamming then said, "Look, we always do this and it works." I offered $1000 and was escorted out of the shop. The lift sold for $1250 after several months of reality check. Another near miss.
 
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I have a Bendpak 2 post XPR-10S, purchased from Brian at ASE Deals. Got it late winter early this spring. I installed it myself, everything went off without a hitch. The quality & condition of the lift was nothing less than perfect. Every square inch of the painted / powdercoated surfaces had a better shine & gloss than my pick-up. I have read a few posts of people complaining about a few rough spots, but they said they called Bendpak & were sent touch up paint at no charge. The instructions that came with my lift were very clear with plenty of illustrations. I had no problems with the assembly. I had one small leaking issue from the tops of the cylinders at the bleeder screws. I called Bendpak & they told me to remove the large flat washers at the top of the cylinders, as they were there for shipping only. Once I removed them everything was fine. As for Rotary lifts being better than Bendpak, I disagree. The size of the towers / posts says it all. Also the Rotary is not made in the USA, they are made in China just like the Bendpaks, only the hydraulic units are made in the USA. whenever you turn on the TV and watch any type of auto or truck related show, the only lift brand I have ever seen in the shops is Bendpak.
Just my 2 cents.
 
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I have a Bendpak 2 post XPR-10S, purchased from Brian at ASE Deals. Got it late winter early this spring. I installed it myself, everything went off without a hitch. The quality & condition of the lift was nothing less than perfect. Every square inch of the painted / powdercoated surfaces had a better shine & gloss than my pick-up. I have read a few posts of people complaining about a few rough spots, but they said they called Bendpak & were sent touch up paint at no charge. The instructions that came with my lift were very clear with plenty of illustrations. I had no problems with the assembly. I had one small leaking issue from the tops of the cylinders at the bleeder screws. I called Bendpak & they told me to remove the large flat washers at the top of the cylinders, as they were there for shipping only. Once I removed them everything was fine. As for Rotary lifts being better than Bendpak, I disagree. The size of the towers / posts says it all. Also the Rotary is not made in the USA, they are made in China just like the Bendpaks, only the hydraulic units are made in the USA. whenever you turn on the TV and watch any type of auto or truck related show, the only lift brand I have ever seen in the shops is Bendpak.
Just my 2 cents.

You're obviously confused. The quality of BendPaks had declined significantly by the timeframe you claim.

It's true -- I READ IT ON THE INTERNET. Duh.
 

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Where's the OP ?
Not to credible when you just drop a review,and not return....
 

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Where's the OP ?
Not to credible when you just drop a review,and not return....

Amen. I called him out early on. And just like insisting on a phone call from a CL person, I'd like to see some credible, coherent posts elsewhere on the board just to prove he's a real gear head and a real person.

Surely a guy who buys a lift can contribute some tech about a cordless drill, a steering wheel puller, a wood stove in a shop, a 3ph converter.....SOMETHING

I also still don't understand the confusion over the color of the lift when they're photographed that way all over the web.

And has anyone else ever seen black and black used for the hots on 220V? Seems to me the point of black and red (which I know to be the standard) is to be able to quickly visually identify them during wiring and troubleshooting. With TWO blacks you don't know WHICH hot you're tracing down.

edit: and if using a production cord I've only seen inspectors be very understanding: put a little red tape on the white wire and they're happy to sign off
 
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I just got done installing my Bendpak 2 post, I worked through any issues (not many) that came up...a novel idea on a somewhat DIY based board. :spit:

I think I will start a thread about the lack of response from this guy regarding his post.....:bounce::evil:
 
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I have a Bendpak 2 post XPR-10S, purchased from Brian at ASE Deals. Got it late winter early this spring. I installed it myself, everything went off without a hitch. The quality & condition of the lift was nothing less than perfect. Every square inch of the painted / powdercoated surfaces had a better shine & gloss than my pick-up. I have read a few posts of people complaining about a few rough spots, but they said they called Bendpak & were sent touch up paint at no charge. The instructions that came with my lift were very clear with plenty of illustrations. I had no problems with the assembly. I had one small leaking issue from the tops of the cylinders at the bleeder screws. I called Bendpak & they told me to remove the large flat washers at the top of the cylinders, as they were there for shipping only. Once I removed them everything was fine. As for Rotary lifts being better than Bendpak, I disagree. The size of the towers / posts says it all. Also the Rotary is not made in the USA, they are made in China just like the Bendpaks, only the hydraulic units are made in the USA. whenever you turn on the TV and watch any type of auto or truck related show, the only lift brand I have ever seen in the shops is Bendpak.
Just my 2 cents.

That's a false statement.

Rotary is a global company and manufacture lifts in the U.S., China, Germany, and Italy.

If you call or email them they will tell you the country of origin of your lift... or the lift you are wanting to buy.

Or if you are near Madison, Indiana you can take a shop tour.

Here's a video link: https://vimeo.com/98950868

Like everything else in life, you have to do the research to get good information.
 
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My Friend bought one for his shop, And I stopped by when they were installing it. He showed me the made in china label on the bottom near the base plate. We are in Connecticut, does it make a difference what part of the country you are in determines where the lift comes from??
 

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..... does it make a difference what part of the country you are in determines where the lift comes from??

If you call or email them they will tell you the country of origin of your lift... or the lift you are wanting to buy.

Like everything else in life, you have to do the research to get good information.

...............
 

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My Friend bought one for his shop, And I stopped by when they were installing it. He showed me the made in china label on the bottom near the base plate. We are in Connecticut, does it make a difference what part of the country you are in determines where the lift comes from??

Good question. I thought they were all drop-shipped from California.
 
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When I purchased this lift all of the adverts were for blue lifts, it makes no difference to me, just noting the difference.

I am not a robot, just a seasoned Indycar race Engineer so you conspiracy mongers can put your fears on hold.

The reason there are two separate posts on this issue was merely because the first appeared to not work, nothing sinister.

If Bendpak is unable or unwilling to supply a proper schematic of the power unit controls, how would one think they are able to address any other issues customers will have?

This lift was just going to be a small part of a shop addition anyway, a colleague has already offered to remove it and it will be replaced with something made in the states, had enough of Uncle Fong's almost good lifts.

Do what you want with the posting information, delete it if it disturbs you, I care not.
 

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I'm going to be in the market for a lift soon and found this thread interesting. Is there much of a price difference between BendPack and Rotary? Around my area you can purchase a 9k asymmetric Rotary installed for just under $3500. I have used many brands and styles of lifts over the years and have found Rotary to be the best designed lifts out there. It just seems like a no-brainer to me.
 
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I'm going to be in the market for a lift soon and found this thread interesting. Is there much of a price difference between BendPack and Rotary?

For a 10K Assymetric lift my data shows it's about a $1,800 adder for a Rotary.

But based on your Rotary installed $3,500 price, which seems like a phenomenal deal..

Any idea how much the installation cost is? Seems like I remember another fella saying it was $500.

If that's the case then ($3,500-$500)=$3,000 for Rotary (based on your data)

The link below says $2,950 for a comparable BendPak

So you'll save $50 :headscrat

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