Yeah if you look in the first photo you can see 404 cast in on the side.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The VISES of Garage Journal
- Thread starter mjozefow
- Start date
Yeah if you look in the first photo you can see 404 cast in on the side.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
AngryBeaver
Well-known member
Finally found an affordable Chicago bullet. Single tail cap pin, no date stamp and remnants of the Wilton sticker behind the anvil. Not a bad find for 50 bucks. Jaws are minty. Looks like it's between late 42 and late 44? This is what I sought out looking for when I found the broken frankenvise I redid. So do I sell it or clear it and hang onto it since it is such nice original shape....
Attachments
Mark in Indiana
Well-known member
Bobioz1
Well-known member
Thinking Rock Island
Smokeshow69
Well-known member
Yes correct! I just sold a nice restored 5161 with the same paint scheme. Black rust oleum and orange letters!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Mark in Indiana
Well-known member
va.grouseman
Well-known member
AngryBeaver, that's a pretty old one.---Still has those tale tale lateral York jaw grips.---Mr. Vogl hadn't quite lost his taste for lateral grips yet or else he had some spares laying around he still needed to get shed of.
Outlawmws
Well-known member
trijeff
Well-known member
This surprises me with all the vises you go through!Cool! This will be the first Rock Island I've ever had.
trijeff
Well-known member
Sacramento, CA
Nice Yost 203 1/2, stand is a little funky but that base has to be 1" plate at least. $100.
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/6309690509.html
Nice Yost 203 1/2, stand is a little funky but that base has to be 1" plate at least. $100.
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/6309690509.html
Rileysan
Well-known member
AngryBeaver
Well-known member
Went to a swap meet today. Had to drag another Wilton home with me. The Williams Vulcan bridge clamps will get used a lot.
Thrumcap
Well-known member
It has been a quiet year this year due to other things, but I keep my eye out.
I looked on kijiji the other day and what do I see but a Parker 60X an hour away.
Normally I have to raid other countries to find the big ones (there is some history around here of this sort of thing) but this one was sitting in a barn for decades, having been extracted from the foundry in the town down the hill a long time ago.
After disassembling it, dragging it home and reassembling it, I had the energy today to drag out my older Parker 60 to take some comparison photos. Here are some photos of the Parker 60X on the left and the Parker 60 on the right.
Looking at the evolution between these is interesting. The 60x has a massive widening of the head of the dynamic jaw. The 60 is more sculpted in line, with the longer base, and more curves. Of note, the garters, screws and keys appear to be swappable, at least in the timeframe whe these two were made -so if any of you ever see a broken one of these, grab it for parts!
I plan on sending a 3D printed model of the 60's garter to the Cattail Foundry with some other parts to be duplicated later in the year.
Thrumcap
I looked on kijiji the other day and what do I see but a Parker 60X an hour away.
Normally I have to raid other countries to find the big ones (there is some history around here of this sort of thing) but this one was sitting in a barn for decades, having been extracted from the foundry in the town down the hill a long time ago.
After disassembling it, dragging it home and reassembling it, I had the energy today to drag out my older Parker 60 to take some comparison photos. Here are some photos of the Parker 60X on the left and the Parker 60 on the right.
Looking at the evolution between these is interesting. The 60x has a massive widening of the head of the dynamic jaw. The 60 is more sculpted in line, with the longer base, and more curves. Of note, the garters, screws and keys appear to be swappable, at least in the timeframe whe these two were made -so if any of you ever see a broken one of these, grab it for parts!
I plan on sending a 3D printed model of the 60's garter to the Cattail Foundry with some other parts to be duplicated later in the year.
Thrumcap
CrotalusAtrox
Well-known member
AngryBeaver
Well-known member
Which power arm is that? Looks huge. Lol
CrotalusAtrox
Well-known member
It's the huge one. It's a modle 301 could you imagine a 302
Last edited:
va.grouseman
Well-known member
Crotalus, how much does yours weigh.---The 303 weighs 15 lbs.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-303-...919068&hash=item5b17f412e8:g:-9kAAOSwyQtV5H2-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-303-...919068&hash=item5b17f412e8:g:-9kAAOSwyQtV5H2-
Smokeshow69
Well-known member
Giants fan?
Well I was when I was a kid ...but I really painted those colors as they are Oregon States University's colors but as of late their football team has been not so hot [emoji36]
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Last edited:
CrotalusAtrox
Well-known member
Haven't weighed it but guessing 10 to 12 pounds
KMScott
Well-known member
Nice pair of Parkers Thrumcap. How are the jaws? Be sure to show the cast part you are getting made, call them garters up where you are, we call them collars down here. Two 8" vises guys over 250 lbs each.
Smokeshow69
Well-known member
Ok vise gurus...can you tell me who made this little 2.5" vise? I bought it years ago before I knew what to look for and of course both sides of the static jaw have brazed repairs to the base but the jaws line up surprisingly well so I figured I may clean it up for the heck of it ? I can't find any makers marks but one the side of the slide it says 22 1/2 A and on the side of the jaw it says 22 1/2 B... I have not finished buzzing it down all the way but I thought you guys may know who made it ? The screw is already soaking in evaporust as it was rusty !
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Attachments
Last edited:
va.grouseman
Well-known member
Thrump, what is the back story on the #60.
RagTopTA
Well-known member
Ok vise gurus...can you tell me who made this little 2.5" vise? I bought it years ago before I knew what to look for and of course both sides of the static jaw have brazed repairs to the base but the jaws line up surprisingly well so I figured I may clean it up for the heck of it ? I can't find any makers marks but one the side of the slide it says 22 1/2 A and on the side of the jaw it says 22 1/2 B... I have not finished buzzing it down all the way but I thought you guys may know who made it ? The screw is already soaking in evaporust as it was rusty !
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
I bought a simular one last week at flea... I cleaned it all up and the mark was on the top and end of the slide. Mine turrnd out to be a no 761 Stanley SweatHeart.
Attachments
Thrumcap
Well-known member
KMScott, you ship to Canada yet?
the jaws are great on the 60 and OK on the 60X, the faces are good but the jaw tops are pockmarked.I dropped into the Cattail Foundry in Pennsylvania on vacation as they were close by my route, and I gather, being Amish, do not have email or bother too much with the phone. They were casting locomotive parts and said they could do 4 1/2 tons of gray iron a pour. Saw some examples of their work. I'm looking forward to what they can do for me for Parker garters and a long handle for a 1895 Fox miter machine I am restoring.
I have an idea to 3D scan and print out a set of Nylon 645 jaws (maybe reinforced with steel bar) for a Parker 289 1/2 as soft jaws. Printed jaws would also serve as models for getting ones machined. Once I get the exhaust cabinet rigged up for the prInter I will have a go.
Thrumcap
va.grouseman
Well-known member
Smokeshow, I'd put my money on Luther.---Click the link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luther-Clam...412179?hash=item1a358a65d3:g:k1cAAOSwa8dZvs6h
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luther-Clam...412179?hash=item1a358a65d3:g:k1cAAOSwa8dZvs6h
Smokeshow69
Well-known member
After looking at that I would agree. Wondering if there is a way to date these ? Mine looks older than the one in the pictures
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Thrumcap
Well-known member
Grouseman, the 60 came out of a railway in Maine. It popped up when I was passing through on vacation last year. There are more pictures in my backposts.
I alsways thought the big 8" Prentisses were lookers, but the the 60 is downright swoopy.
Thrumcap
va.grouseman
Well-known member
Grouseman, the 60 came out of a railway in Maine. It popped up when I was passing through on vacation last year. There are more pictures in my backposts.
I alsways thought the big 8" Prentisses were lookers, but the the 60 is downright swoopy.
Thrumcap
Thrumcap, as the Amish would say, ("I hear The").
sandman54
Well-known member
Crot the wilton stuff is nice however the tool boxes are killer!!! lol Sandman
Just picked up this 1969 double pin Wilton C0 today. Pretty good shape. Should clean up nicely. Had to do a few hours on price negotiation but finally got it down to a suitable price.
You Dawg! That's a great find. I just restored one. Its still in pieces.
^^^^This. I was gonna say the same thing. Looks like a Luther.
Thanks Nick. It is really nice. Just has some old dumpy paint on it but the rest is real good.
FMC1959
Well-known member
It has been a quiet year this year due to other things, but I keep my eye out.
I looked on kijiji the other day and what do I see but a Parker 60X an hour away.
Normally I have to raid other countries to find the big ones (there is some history around here of this sort of thing) but this one was sitting in a barn for decades, having been extracted from the foundry in the town down the hill a long time ago.
After disassembling it, dragging it home and reassembling it, I had the energy today to drag out my older Parker 60 to take some comparison photos. Here are some photos of the Parker 60X on the left and the Parker 60 on the right.
Looking at the evolution between these is interesting. The 60x has a massive widening of the head of the dynamic jaw. The 60 is more sculpted in line, with the longer base, and more curves. Of note, the garters, screws and keys appear to be swappable, at least in the timeframe whe these two were made -so if any of you ever see a broken one of these, grab it for parts!
I plan on sending a 3D printed model of the 60's garter to the Cattail Foundry with some other parts to be duplicated later in the year.
Thrumcap
Very nice finds. IIRC, you have a few 8's now. There are those of us who aspire to one day have an 8 incher, those that own 1 or 2 eights, and then a small group lucky people who have 5+ eight inchers. (Then of course there is Demoman, he is his own grouping)
Anyway your 2 Parkers are different models. The 60x is a Superior first gen. The 2 digits followed by an X were the stationary models (29X, 39X, 60X...etc). The 3 digit followed by an X were the swivel base (229X, 239X, 260X...etc). Your number 60 looks look an Eclipse, possible precursor to the 100 and 200 series Eclipse vises.
Eclipses were great vises and could always be recognized from the 45 degree squiggly line going down to the base (when Union took over this became a straight 45 degree line). On your first pic you see it just left of the Coke bottle, just around the top of the Coke label.
Superior were Parkers extra heavy duty vise, the shoulder on the static goes out further, then a straight vertical line without the squiggly design.
On your first pic you can see the jaw tower slopes out further and the whole static is just more robust. Even the dynamic has more "meat" around the jaw tower. Anywhere they could add more heft and strength, Parker did so on the Superior.
I show listings of 248 pounds for the 60 and 265 pounds for the 60X. Superior are not as common as Eclipses; anyone who has owned both usually comment on the extra heft of the Superior vises. I think GmanBart had commented on his 4" Superior weighing as much as most of his 5 inchers...or something of the sort. Joe Striper also made comment on how he loved his Superiors.
Anyway, you have 2 great vises sir, congrats
Ok vise gurus...can you tell me who made this little 2.5" vise? I bought it years ago before I knew what to look for and of course both sides of the static jaw have brazed repairs to the base but the jaws line up surprisingly well so I figured I may clean it up for the heck of it ? I can't find any makers marks but one the side of the slide it says 22 1/2 A and on the side of the jaw it says 22 1/2 B... I have not finished buzzing it down all the way but I thought you guys may know who made it ? The screw is already soaking in evaporust as it was rusty !
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Looks very similar to this 3" vise I picked up a couple weeks ago. I have a very faint Luther logo on mine that you can barely make out.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Attachments
AngryBeaver
Well-known member
Very nice finds. IIRC, you have a few 8's now. There are those of us who aspire to one day have an 8 incher, those that own 1 or 2 eights, and then a small group lucky people who have 5+ eight inchers. (Then of course there is Demoman, he is his own grouping)
Anyway your 2 Parkers are different models. The 60x is a Superior first gen. The 2 digits followed by an X were the stationary models (29X, 39X, 60X...etc). The 3 digit followed by an X were the swivel base (229X, 239X, 260X...etc). Your number 60 looks look an Eclipse, possible precursor to the 100 and 200 series Eclipse vises.
Eclipses were great vises and could always be recognized from the 45 degree squiggly line going down to the base (when Union took over this became a straight 45 degree line). On your first pic you see it just left of the Coke bottle, just around the top of the Coke label.
Superior were Parkers extra heavy duty vise, the shoulder on the static goes out further, then a straight vertical line without the squiggly design.
On your first pic you can see the jaw tower slopes out further and the whole static is just more robust. Even the dynamic has more "meat" around the jaw tower. Anywhere they could add more heft and strength, Parker did so on the Superior.
I show listings of 248 pounds for the 60 and 265 pounds for the 60X. Superior are not as common as Eclipses; anyone who has owned both usually comment on the extra heft of the Superior vises. I think GmanBart had commented on his 4" Superior weighing as much as most of his 5 inchers...or something of the sort. Joe Striper also made comment on how he loved his Superiors.
Anyway, you have 2 great vises sir, congrats
so... tell me about my 259x that I can't find much information on....
02superduty
Well-known member
SRU1436
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Got this Columbian Model 606 today, looks to be in great condition!
454ragtop
Well-known member
Think it's an adjustable wrench. Saw a similar one this weekend, one side was flat jaws, other side had vee shaped jaws, Sadly the one I saw was cracked.
FMC1959
Well-known member
Not a lot to tell....your is a first gen Superior, 103 pounds, 4 3/4" jaws.
This first brochure has the first gen, but only stationary. Yours would be equivalent to the 59X but with swivel base.
This brochure includes both stationary and swivel, your 259X is listed
These next 2 brochures show the 800 series (stationary) and 820 series (swivel) that were the second gen
I have not followed patent dates but my guess would be the first gens came out in the late 1800, maybe 1890's. The 800 2nd gen may be 1910 to 1920 range when they came out and probably stopped around the Union takeover of the company...I believe Union only kept producing the Eclipse line.
Before 1890 Parker had many models like the lettered A, C, EE, GG vises which may have been a precursor to the Superiors. They also had Vulcans, Victors, Parallel, and many other models. While some companies like Reed kept their models to a minimum and easy to follow, Parker probably had more model lines than any of the turn of the century MFR's.
AngryBeaver
Well-known member
Thanks. The patent dates on mine are 1906 and 1910. So I assumed afterwards but in a couple months of research I haven't found much on the 200 series.