shortykorte
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I can see the point Kev is making. Great thing about GJ is we don't let you forget about your advertised projects.
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Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Auctions are dangerous for me.
As for Kev’s point, I think he has hit the nail on the head with me. After reading a bit more about the idea, I do tend to state a goal, then never get it done, even simple ones. It is an extension of my procrastination, once the goal/project has been discussed with people, in my head I feel I started it. Then my brain uses that to screw things up. I am not a completer, I never have been. I have gotten better at it, but now it seems I am not a starter either, at least not in the physical sense. I guess I am a make excuser?
As for Kev’s point, I think he has hit the nail on the head with me. After reading a bit more about the idea, I do tend to state a goal, then never get it done, even simple ones. It is an extension of my procrastination, once the goal/project has been discussed with people, in my head I feel I started it. Then my brain uses that to screw things up. I am not a completer, I never have been. I have gotten better at it, but now it seems I am not a starter either, at least not in the physical sense. I guess I am a make excuser?
Man, I am getting worse. This morning I was going over what I need to do at the shop, then I went off on a tangent. Next thing I know I was thinking about TV antennas at a House I don’t even own. I do need to work on my focus, at that point I had already forgotten what the original task was.
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taumac
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Wow, that sounds sooo familiar. You sure we aren't brothers? I think people on my thread gotten so confused on what I was doing. I had this great idea... I told everyone... I got the pieces... did a half *** attempt on doing something... lost interest... then moved on to other things to make more of a mess in my garage. Garage it filled with bunch of half done ****.
I've learn if I have a upcoming vacation to write a list of things needing to be done. Its mostly honey dos so I start knocking out what I can a week before I actually start vacation. I then hit it hard first few days hoping I finish them up so I can do my stuff. Horray shop time!!!! Well Sunday rolls around and I gotten nothing done in garage. I started 4 other projects that weren't even on the F@CKING list and garage more of a mess. At end of day wife happy and inlaws got their stuff done.
Today is "things that bug me day". I am going to concentrate on things, well, that bug me. I won't get into details, but I will update with how things went. I just want the feeling of fighting a losing battle to go away.
The book that I am on now, seems to be the most honest and realistic of all the "self help" style books I have been through. The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck by Mark Manson. He talks about the "feedback loop from hell".
"God I do the feedback loop all the time - I'm such a loser for doing it. I should stop. Oh my god, I feel like such a loser for calling myself a loser. I should stop calling myself a loser. Ah, f*ck! I'm doing it again! See? I'm a Loser! Argh!"
The book that I am on now, seems to be the most honest and realistic of all the "self help" style books I have been through. The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck by Mark Manson. He talks about the "feedback loop from hell".
"God I do the feedback loop all the time - I'm such a loser for doing it. I should stop. Oh my god, I feel like such a loser for calling myself a loser. I should stop calling myself a loser. Ah, f*ck! I'm doing it again! See? I'm a Loser! Argh!"
Pretty much sums everything up for me.
I am determined to break this particular scenario. I used to think the two steps forward one step back was a good enough approach, but things have definitely gotten away from me. I have been doing the one step forward, four steps back and twenty steps sideways approach for far too long. The biggest issue is that I am tying up money needed to finish some projects with other half assed attempts at others. Then we have the pipe dream projects, don't get me started on those.
I can clearly see five or six thousand dollars worth of **** that has been purchased for these projects, had I just concentrated on one and only purchased the needed supplies, I would have something to show for it instead of a shop that is in total disarray. I need to start "salvaging" myself before there is nothing left.
After two hours of work, things look exactly the same!!!!!
The only measure of this process is the fact that I have a bunch of stuff in my recycling bin and few empty drawers and containers.
I guess I have to start somewhere, right? I am looking for some documents and I can't find them, going to be a PITA to replace them, but it can be done. The worst part is that I am 90% sure they are in a properly labeled folder, just can't seem to figure out where I put the damn thing.
The only measure of this process is the fact that I have a bunch of stuff in my recycling bin and few empty drawers and containers.
I guess I have to start somewhere, right? I am looking for some documents and I can't find them, going to be a PITA to replace them, but it can be done. The worst part is that I am 90% sure they are in a properly labeled folder, just can't seem to figure out where I put the damn thing.
Strouty have you been tested for ADHD? My wife was tested last year and they called it a very mild case so no drugs but she did a bit of counseling and her focus is much better, they taught her a few tricks. I can ask her what they are if you don't want to check into it yourself.
I never had issues until the last couple years, in my case it is more about avoidance than anything. It is way easier to do something fun than deal with the issues that need to be dealt with.
On a good note, I found some old info on hydraulic wire cutters, it led me to a quick research of the tool. I found an even better choice, then went to eBay and found a crazy deal on it. Bought one, now looking at a second one. The best part is that I can cut 3/4" EHS guy wire with it, just so happens that the new tower has 5/8" and 3/4" sized wires. Almost done for today, tomorrow I have another half day to throw at the shop with help, then I can spend the afternoon on the office.
Here is the tool:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GB-ELECTRIC...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Best part is that the tool is a rebranded enerpac, so it is worth way more than the $276 I spent on it!
On a good note, I found some old info on hydraulic wire cutters, it led me to a quick research of the tool. I found an even better choice, then went to eBay and found a crazy deal on it. Bought one, now looking at a second one. The best part is that I can cut 3/4" EHS guy wire with it, just so happens that the new tower has 5/8" and 3/4" sized wires. Almost done for today, tomorrow I have another half day to throw at the shop with help, then I can spend the afternoon on the office.
Here is the tool:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GB-ELECTRIC...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Best part is that the tool is a rebranded enerpac, so it is worth way more than the $276 I spent on it!
Hey loser!..........look a squirrel
Don't feel alone bud, you're not the only guy here that gets it to the 90% mark and off to something else. Every single project for me is a struggle to do that last 10%. If I don't force myself to do it right then and there, it might be years before I get back to it, if ever.
I am at the MIL’s house and she wanted her bed moved to the new house so she can officially be out for the first open house. So, we take the bed out, then she wants to replace it with an aerobed, they have a twin frame with no box spring or slats. The plan is to put a sign on the bed saying not to sit in it. The bed is shin high. The other bedroom has two twin beds in it, I suggest moving one to this room. This turns into a huge argument, I am outside now wondering why I even left my shop. Family can really ****. So now her son is stacking wood up under the frame so it will be a taller mess. Keep in mind, they are asking $830k for this house.
cbacres
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jakemac
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Strouty, why not just cut some 1/2" plywood to put on the frame ?
BBChevro
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I can identify with so much on this thread - sure, my mess is on a much smaller scale ( mainly due to where we live), but the fundamental issues are pretty much the same.
I've also made a decision to do something about my tendency to procrastinate, well I'm thinking about it...Yes, I definitely will... Maybe?
(I guess it's a moot point anyway - because I publicly announced it?).
I've also made a decision to do something about my tendency to procrastinate, well I'm thinking about it...Yes, I definitely will... Maybe?
(I guess it's a moot point anyway - because I publicly announced it?).
It is all relative, I am used to bigger messes and bigger stuff, but I also have bigger equipment to move the stuff. That is why I never like to compare my mess to someone else’s.
I have to get up early tomorrow so I can try and get at least a few hints done while I have help.
I have to get up early tomorrow so I can try and get at least a few hints done while I have help.
Well, I didn't set out to crash everyone's world, but it sure is an interesting study. Should I pat myself on the back because I am now finishing up the last 10% of the pole barn interior that the crawler was blocking?
I hope the auction goes well, take another truckload while you're purging!
I hope the auction goes well, take another truckload while you're purging!
BoilermakerFan
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Nice score on the Enerpac cutter!
My ADHD never really bothered me too much until I got older. It got worse right before I turned 40 and kept getting worse to the point where it was starting to affect my job. I was always forgetting stuff, forgetting to write stuff down, etc. I talked to my doctor about it, but I didn't want to become a zombie. He actually prescribed me a low dose of an anti-anxiety med to try for a month to see if it would help. Wow! What a huge difference it made. I haven't lost my creativity at all, but my short term memory and general focus improved dramatically.
I still have the 50%-90% complete projects lying around, but now I do eventually get back to them and finish them. I have a couple right now I need to finish, but it's mostly been other family things and weather getting in the way. I've also been purging stuff. I'm not a horder per say, but I've been holding on to stuff thinking that I'd eventually build this or that... mostly automation stuff, electrical stuff, or plumbing stuff for hobbies. Well, the technology has changed so drastically in the last 15 years most of the stuff I was holding on to is essentially obsolete for my intended projects or I can't even run the software necessary to program them. So it's being purged. It's hard at first, but then once it's gone there is a sense of relief. It's amazing how much stress the stuff can create.
I was really bad about keeping magazine articles and woodworking plans. I'd tear them out of the magazines and toss the rest of the magazine, so it was a lot less paper, but then all those torn out pages add up. Last weekend I went through most of it and tossed 90% into recycling. I'll scan in the remaining 10% and then recycle the paper.
And today I finished a simple project that has been waiting for months. I hung a new light fixture in my son's room. We've had the new light for months. I generally would forget about it, my son would ask me to hang it. We always had other things going on and I wasn't looking forward to fighting with the old fixture to get it off the ceiling. But today I finally prevailed after my son asked me about again. My son is happy, my wife is happy, and I'm happy. It felt great to throw the old light away in the trash too!
Sometimes you just have to focus on really small things and get them done.
My ADHD never really bothered me too much until I got older. It got worse right before I turned 40 and kept getting worse to the point where it was starting to affect my job. I was always forgetting stuff, forgetting to write stuff down, etc. I talked to my doctor about it, but I didn't want to become a zombie. He actually prescribed me a low dose of an anti-anxiety med to try for a month to see if it would help. Wow! What a huge difference it made. I haven't lost my creativity at all, but my short term memory and general focus improved dramatically.
I still have the 50%-90% complete projects lying around, but now I do eventually get back to them and finish them. I have a couple right now I need to finish, but it's mostly been other family things and weather getting in the way. I've also been purging stuff. I'm not a horder per say, but I've been holding on to stuff thinking that I'd eventually build this or that... mostly automation stuff, electrical stuff, or plumbing stuff for hobbies. Well, the technology has changed so drastically in the last 15 years most of the stuff I was holding on to is essentially obsolete for my intended projects or I can't even run the software necessary to program them. So it's being purged. It's hard at first, but then once it's gone there is a sense of relief. It's amazing how much stress the stuff can create.
I was really bad about keeping magazine articles and woodworking plans. I'd tear them out of the magazines and toss the rest of the magazine, so it was a lot less paper, but then all those torn out pages add up. Last weekend I went through most of it and tossed 90% into recycling. I'll scan in the remaining 10% and then recycle the paper.
And today I finished a simple project that has been waiting for months. I hung a new light fixture in my son's room. We've had the new light for months. I generally would forget about it, my son would ask me to hang it. We always had other things going on and I wasn't looking forward to fighting with the old fixture to get it off the ceiling. But today I finally prevailed after my son asked me about again. My son is happy, my wife is happy, and I'm happy. It felt great to throw the old light away in the trash too!
Sometimes you just have to focus on really small things and get them done.
BBChevro
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You wouldn't catch me ripping a page out of a magazine and keeping it...
...I keep my magazines in pristine condition (I have car magazines dating back to about 1973).
...I keep my magazines in pristine condition (I have car magazines dating back to about 1973).
Kev, you just opened our eyes. I think there are many people that can and will be able to post goals/projects while still completing them. I think you looked at the big picture and saw some of my issues related to the study. After reading up on it, I think you nailed it. I either have ADHD or some sort of wish to distract myself constantly. The only reason I don't think that I have ADHD is because I can sit down and concentrate on one thing for hours at a time, I just need to be into what I am doing. If I don't "want" to do it, then I find something else that is more "fun" to do.
Boiler, those simple projects are nice, sometimes when I get a small one done, it motivates me to move on to a larger one and it can snowball from there. I have anxiety issues and most are created by the stuff surrounding me. You start thinking about finishing a project, then another, then another, and before you know it you are in a corner in the fetal position crying.
BB, I used to keep my magazines like that too, then I started to realize that the articles were all the same, the editors just seemed to wait a year or so and start repeating them. At that point I guess I gave up and tossed a ton. I am not even sure if I have any magazines left.
I can see one thing, I need to work on getting to the shop much earlier. I used to pretend it was my "job" and that I had to be there at a certain time, but in reality my timeframes are almost always adjustable and being the "boss" means I get away with a lot. There are many days I wish I just worked for someone else, it can be so much easier! Hope you guys have a good day, I will make some updates later.
Boiler, those simple projects are nice, sometimes when I get a small one done, it motivates me to move on to a larger one and it can snowball from there. I have anxiety issues and most are created by the stuff surrounding me. You start thinking about finishing a project, then another, then another, and before you know it you are in a corner in the fetal position crying.
BB, I used to keep my magazines like that too, then I started to realize that the articles were all the same, the editors just seemed to wait a year or so and start repeating them. At that point I guess I gave up and tossed a ton. I am not even sure if I have any magazines left.
I can see one thing, I need to work on getting to the shop much earlier. I used to pretend it was my "job" and that I had to be there at a certain time, but in reality my timeframes are almost always adjustable and being the "boss" means I get away with a lot. There are many days I wish I just worked for someone else, it can be so much easier! Hope you guys have a good day, I will make some updates later.
4x4gearhead
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I do the same thing strouty, go out to the garage to do one thing and get sidetracked working on a bunch of like you say "fun" things and realize hours later im never going to get the things done i "need" to lol. Maybe its a new englander thing? 
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Glad to see you back on here regularly, and making progress at the shop and your projects, Strouty!
Moving heavy things, it is really hot (for Maine) and pretty humid too. I am about ready to get some lunch, then I would like to work on inside stuff. Monday I have some help again and it will be good timing so I can get the auction items delivered. We also dug out the old elliptical trainer and the two big fish tanks. I am going to list them on craigslist, but if they are not gone ASAP, I will be listing them as free. They are not going back inside the storage boxes.
Richard Cranium
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Good day all, Not much to add, But I know the feeling about putting stuff off. Rich
I can check off that goal, lunch is done!
Back to the heat for a bit, then inside so I can put some of these damn tools away. Also still trying to figure out if I want to get rid of my big fabrication table. I have thought about storing it outside and that probably makes the most sense. When you need a big table, it is really nice to have a big table.
Back to the heat for a bit, then inside so I can put some of these damn tools away. Also still trying to figure out if I want to get rid of my big fabrication table. I have thought about storing it outside and that probably makes the most sense. When you need a big table, it is really nice to have a big table.
Orionrising
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yeah it is hot... need to do insulation but no way in hell today.
I think I would skip that as well. Honestly, I would wait until it gets almost to the point where you want the heat on.
So looks like the first part of the day will be the productive part, I am going to attempt a 5 hour energy to see if it will jolt some motivation into me, but honestly, this heat has dragged me down to a puddle of sweaty uselessness. I have a good game plan, following through with it will be the toughest part, but the overall motivation is there.
So looks like the first part of the day will be the productive part, I am going to attempt a 5 hour energy to see if it will jolt some motivation into me, but honestly, this heat has dragged me down to a puddle of sweaty uselessness. I have a good game plan, following through with it will be the toughest part, but the overall motivation is there.
This gets me a lot, I found that if I kick back and take a 15 minute nap someplace cool, even just shutting my eyes for that time helps me re-energize.
Unseasonably warm here in MN too, and humid as hell, all my cast iron surfaces flash rusted over night, scotch brite and WD-40 followed by a coating of boshield is what I am going to be doing soon.
When I build my new office, there is going to be some sort of bed in there, probably a murphy type bed, not sure yet, but getting off my feet would be awesome. Between my back and the heat, a nap would probably take care of me, just no comfortable place to lay down.
I am feeling a bit better, I turned on some tunes and I am going to try and put some tools away. I just have to keep reminding myself, just start, the rest is easy.
I am feeling a bit better, I turned on some tunes and I am going to try and put some tools away. I just have to keep reminding myself, just start, the rest is easy.
I only have 3 more boxes of loose tools to put away, except I don't have drawers for them all. I may have to pause some of this or start moving tools around to make room. I wish every drawer was magically at the correct height. The bottom drawers are making all my motivation go away.
I read this far and had did a double take
I figured that with the lista score you would have a individual drawer for each tool, but I guess that they are going to have to cuddle a bit.
In a previous post you mentioned "2 steps forward and 1 step back" that is way better than taking no steps at all.
And I prefer the club style chair in the shop for my quick naps, doesn't do my back any good but I won't sleep all day either.
As far as the lista drawers (at least the ones in the shop), I think there are maybe 10 that are empty? I have not labeled all of them, so I don't have a handle on it yet. I guess I should have clarified, but I was talking in my actual toolbox. I have shifted tools to the lista drawers, but they are more for stuff, this is more because of the location of them more than anything. Also the fact that they are not really mobile and my box can easily be moved. Long term, the lista drawers will all be in the stockroom except for a few that will be used in some custom benches and movable cabinets. I really can't wait to get started on the stockroom, it is going to be epic, well in my mind anyways! I will post up some pictures, got all the boxes emptied, but the top of the toolbox still has a ton of stuff to be put away. I sold my cart a couple weeks ago and all the tools from it need to be reintegrated into the big box.
Richard Cranium
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one tool at a time and then find a home for another one, Is all you can do.
You are able to make a little progress each day.
You are able to make a little progress each day.
Orionrising
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that looks good.
Brother you seem to suffer from the same form of dementia I do, noabilityofshitcanninganythingitis. This rare disease affects the brains ability to coordinate the motor skills required to use ones right hand to place items into a receptacle held by the left hand. The cause of this dreaded disease is brought on by catching both the everythingihaveisworthafortune and iknowillneedthatsomeday virus. But gauging your actions at this point of attempting to hide this massive clutter of **** it is obvious that one day we will most likely hear you succumbed to heopenthedooryotheshopandwasburiedaliveAticalitis
Goooooood luck
Goooooood luck