Toolhorder
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Just a head's up today is Pearl Harbor day. Kinda pissed Google remembers and changes their logo for all kinds of lame days and birthdays of artists but doesn't do anything for PH day....
Remember Pearl Harbor
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Merkava_4
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Do you have Google as your home page? I've got it for mine.
mkdive
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that's google for ya!
Merkava_4
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I guess if Google was to put an image up of Japanese Zero's swooping down on some ships, people might get the wrong idea.
BackTracker
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It will be a somber day around town...
mkdive
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I was watching a documentary the other day....was interesting and the first time I herd that a lot of the Japanese pilots were told that Japan would be officially giving the US a declaration of war prior to 8am. The pilots were under strict orders to NOT start the attack prior to 8am. When the pilots returned to their carriers....and found out in fact there was a screw up and the formal declaration of war wasn't given out before 8am (like promised to pilots)....the pilots felt ashamed, dishonorable, and actually felt great remorse (I know some will not believe that). Some of the pilots even committed suicide over what they felt like was a dis-honorable act.
I had quite a few of our family fight in WWII in Europe and the south pacific.... (some did'nt return). My wife is Japanese, (her family was here 40 years prior to Pearl Harbor). They got swept up into "the camps". I have herd lots of interesting stories from both sides.
Saying all that.....
Still amazes me nothing on the google page?!!
I had quite a few of our family fight in WWII in Europe and the south pacific.... (some did'nt return). My wife is Japanese, (her family was here 40 years prior to Pearl Harbor). They got swept up into "the camps". I have herd lots of interesting stories from both sides.
Saying all that.....
Still amazes me nothing on the google page?!!
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mkdive
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Merkava_4
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They recognized the Muppet's birthday though.
mkdive
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Damn,aint that some shizz
Merkava_4
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mkdive
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Next time I'm over there in a couple months, I will definitely try to hook up with you & take the bikes for a ride.... knock back a couple cold ones with a fellow R1 & GJ member!
JohnFreeman
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Fedwrench
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I think there are more Japanese tourists visiting the Pearl Harbor Memorial than anyone else. Hell, last time I was there they had this huge model of a Japanese aircraft carrier in the middle of the display. 68 years is a long time, I wonder how many survivors are left.
godremmas
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May we never forget.
Identaltech
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sad day. the news last night interveiwed a Vet from Pearl Harbor.
He said they had to cancel their anual meeting this year because 2 of the 3 survivors are sick.
the group had a botttle of wiskey saved for the last survivor to drink.
He said they had to cancel their anual meeting this year because 2 of the 3 survivors are sick.
the group had a botttle of wiskey saved for the last survivor to drink.
BackTracker
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Toolhorder
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I didn't forget and I wasn't there...At midnight the flag went on the porch. I honestly believe that those people were the greatest generation.
This morning on the news they spent the whole time talking about some storm we had over the night....Sad.
This morning on the news they spent the whole time talking about some storm we had over the night....Sad.
Stuey
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Nothing on Yahoo either...
Thank you for the headsup.
Thank you for the headsup.
wreckercologist
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I'm surprised more people don't know that you're supposed to fly the flag at half staff. I saw a few that were not today. Dicks.
Art From De Leon
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No what is sad is when sports get promoted as 'news' and ANYTHING to do with the military is placed far back in the queqe, whether on television 'newscasts', or in your 'newspaper'.
But since your overpaid, airheaded, 'journalist' is doing good to remember his/her own name, or what happened 15 seconds prior, as well as not having any military service, they aren't smart enough to have their priorities straight.
But since your overpaid, airheaded, 'journalist' is doing good to remember his/her own name, or what happened 15 seconds prior, as well as not having any military service, they aren't smart enough to have their priorities straight.
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mkdive
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My R1 is gone, my wife made me get rid of itbeer however, still flows freely
I have a buddy who has a R6 & R1 stashed in his garage (north shore vacation house)
This year he is going to ship over his 35' fishing boat....should make for some good times!
Major Ramifications
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It's a Pearl Harbor kind of day, there's a little nip in the air.
mkdive
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Joe69
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I've been to Pearl Harbor. What an eerie feeling when you stop and think about what when on there so many years ago.
Joe
Joe
wildman1
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I had (4) uncles that fought the japanese in the South Pacific - (1) in the 2nd Marine Division (Tarawa - Betio), (2) in the 37th "Buckeye" Division (New Guinea, Luzon), and (1) in the 14th AAC "Flying Tigers" (Burma). By some miracle, all four survived the war. I grew up greatly admiring them, and listened intently during their rare discussion (always after a number of beers) of their war experience.
I will NEVER own a japanese vehicle, and will never understand how one justifies purchasing one.
It is one's personal right to do so in this great country, but I will never understand that decision, no matter how it is justified.
I will NEVER own a japanese vehicle, and will never understand how one justifies purchasing one.
It is one's personal right to do so in this great country, but I will never understand that decision, no matter how it is justified.
Dan in Pasadena
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Listening to my Mom and Dad speak of their memories of that Sunday is amazing. Its living history. My Dad is long gone now (1990). He was afraid the war would end so he enlisted with less than half a year to go in his Senior year of highschool. He was an aircraft mechanic on Tinian when the Enola Gay was brought in and they were all confined to barracks on the day of the mission, he said. They had no idea what was happening excpet it was a big deal. MP's that were brought onto the island had orders to shoot if you were out of barracks without permission that day.
My sister married a Japanese man whose family had been rousted out of their property and transported to Hart Mountain, Wyoming. They owned an 11 acre flower ranch in (then) the outskirts of Los Angeles. A neighbor lady was the person that pulled string to get them to WY instead of Manzanar in the desert. She offered to buy their property for $1 an acre and watch it for them during the war. When the war was over; incredibly, the neighbor gave them back the property. Such was NOT the case with a LOT of Japanese familes in the post war years. They had several families that came to live with them for months or years until they were able to get back on their feet financially. Tough, tough times. The Anglo lady neighbor that held their property? She was held is highest family esteem, invited to ALL family ecvents, visited often, extravagant gifts given her over the years as the family fortunes improved. She was a life long friend until she died in her 90's and the ENTIRE clan of over 80 Japanese Maericans came to her funeral to honor her. Very moving. I guess something good and right came out of a very bad experience for their family.
R.I.P. Heroes. (SUCH an overused word today)
My sister married a Japanese man whose family had been rousted out of their property and transported to Hart Mountain, Wyoming. They owned an 11 acre flower ranch in (then) the outskirts of Los Angeles. A neighbor lady was the person that pulled string to get them to WY instead of Manzanar in the desert. She offered to buy their property for $1 an acre and watch it for them during the war. When the war was over; incredibly, the neighbor gave them back the property. Such was NOT the case with a LOT of Japanese familes in the post war years. They had several families that came to live with them for months or years until they were able to get back on their feet financially. Tough, tough times. The Anglo lady neighbor that held their property? She was held is highest family esteem, invited to ALL family ecvents, visited often, extravagant gifts given her over the years as the family fortunes improved. She was a life long friend until she died in her 90's and the ENTIRE clan of over 80 Japanese Maericans came to her funeral to honor her. Very moving. I guess something good and right came out of a very bad experience for their family.
R.I.P. Heroes. (SUCH an overused word today)
Racial slurs of any kind not needed on here
Thank you for speaking up.
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Art From De Leon
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"R.I.P. Heroes. (SUCH an overused word today)"
So true, I am so sick of the media making 'heroes' and 'role models' out of sports trash.
Here, the Cocaine Cowboys get front page coverage, win or lose, and now the television 'news' has started putting more and more asinine football coverage in the news segment. Yet, the criminal antics of the Dallas Drug Monkeys NEVER makes the news.
So true, I am so sick of the media making 'heroes' and 'role models' out of sports trash.
Here, the Cocaine Cowboys get front page coverage, win or lose, and now the television 'news' has started putting more and more asinine football coverage in the news segment. Yet, the criminal antics of the Dallas Drug Monkeys NEVER makes the news.
I had (4) uncles that fought the japanese in the South Pacific - (1) in the 2nd Marine Division (Tarawa - Betio), (2) in the 37th "Buckeye" Division (New Guinea, Luzon), and (1) in the 14th AAC "Flying Tigers" (Burma). By some miracle, all four survived the war. I grew up greatly admiring them, and listened intently during their rare discussion (always after a number of beers) of their war experience.
I will NEVER own a japanese vehicle, and will never understand how one justifies purchasing one.
It is one's personal right to do so in this great country, but I will never understand that decision, no matter how it is justified.
What about Japanese electronics? I assume you don't own German Car.
mkdive
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No worries. I understand the feelings both sides of the event still evokes, I lost a few family members as stated above in WWII in Europe & the SP. But also like I said before I have a Japanese wife.....and I don't take to racial slurs kindly.
I was thinking the same thing. I cant think of even one 100% pure USA made computer (doesn't contain Japanese components).
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Toolhorder
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Google has "Popeye" on it's logo now....I'm shocked. I'm canceling my gmail account and getting a new search engine.
I had (4) uncles that fought the japanese in the South Pacific - (1) in the 2nd Marine Division (Tarawa - Betio), (2) in the 37th "Buckeye" Division (New Guinea, Luzon), and (1) in the 14th AAC "Flying Tigers" (Burma). By some miracle, all four survived the war. I grew up greatly admiring them, and listened intently during their rare discussion (always after a number of beers) of their war experience.
I will NEVER own a japanese vehicle, and will never understand how one justifies purchasing one.
It is one's personal right to do so in this great country, but I will never understand that decision, no matter how it is justified.
you must have a really bare house then if you cant stand anything japanese..
this was sort of a bitter time for my grandparents, both are japanese btw. my grandma doesnt really speak about it much. they lived on Kona while this occurred and she could vividly remember seeing the planes fly in. soon after my grandpa joined the Army 442nd infantry regiment and fought over seas in europe. thankfully none of my family were sent to an internment camp, but my grandma did know families that did.
our family are proud americans, and i feel honored to be related to someone that served during that time. it was tough considering we were of japanese descent living in america, but i feel that the 442nd regiment really changed the views of those closed minded individuals.
my grandpa came home with a purple heart
mkdive
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you must have a really bare house then if you cant stand anything japanese..
this was sort of a bitter time for my grandparents, both are japanese btw. my grandma doesnt really speak about it much. they lived on Kona while this occurred and she could vividly remember seeing the planes fly in. soon after my grandpa joined the Army 442nd infantry regiment and fought over seas in europe. thankfully none of my family were sent to an internment camp, but my grandma did know families that did.
our family are proud americans, and i feel honored to be related to someone that served during that time. it was tough considering we were of japanese descent living in america, but i feel that the 442nd regiment really changed the views of those closed minded individuals.
my grandpa came home with a purple heart
Thanks for sharing mattH
wildman1
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you must have a really bare house then if you cant stand anything japanese..
this was sort of a bitter time for my grandparents, both are japanese btw. my grandma doesnt really speak about it much. they lived on Kona while this occurred and she could vividly remember seeing the planes fly in. soon after my grandpa joined the Army 442nd infantry regiment and fought over seas in europe. thankfully none of my family were sent to an internment camp, but my grandma did know families that did.
our family are proud americans, and i feel honored to be related to someone that served during that time. it was tough considering we were of japanese descent living in america, but i feel that the 442nd regiment really changed the views of those closed minded individuals.
my grandpa came home with a purple heart
Matt,
Your grandparents were AMERICAN, not Japanese. They never attacked our country, or took up arms against us. Neither did all those that were placed in the internment camps. I cannot imagine the feelings that those Americans had to feel being treated like the enemy, even though many of them were American citizens.
I am well aware of the 442nd, and their steller war record- you are right to be very proud of your grandpa.
The sad fact that most (if not all) electronics are now manufactured overseas means that I no longer have a choice when purchasing a product (I bought Zienth televisions for years, until they were no longer manufactured here).
You younger guys may not realize this, but there was a day when we all had a choice when buying electronics.
For the time being, we at least have the same choice when buying tools.
I do, however, still have a choice when it comes to purchasing a vehicle.
I think that several of you are missing my point concerning japanese cars - the money goes to JAPAN. No matter if Americans build the vehicles here, the profit still goes to Japan.
Study how the japanese treated our service people who were isolated by their cowardly sneak attacks and then captured once their ammunition and other supplies ran out.
Then tell yourself that that was a long time ago when you get into your japanese car. I hope that doing so eases your mind.
Major Ramifications
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Racial slurs of any kind not needed on here
Dude, my joke was FUNNY!
Excuse me for having a big American sense of humor instead of a little Japanese one.
This whole thread should be in Free Paking.
Also, are you guys aware that the Enola Gay was Chyrsler powered?
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Toolhorder
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Matt,
Your grandparents were AMERICAN, not Japanese. They never attacked our country, or took up arms against us. Neither did all those that were placed in the internment camps. I cannot imagine the feelings that those Americans had to feel being treated like the enemy, even though many of them were American citizens.
I am well aware of the 442nd, and their steller war record- you are right to be very proud of your grandpa.
The sad fact that most (if not all) electronics are now manufactured overseas means that I no longer have a choice when purchasing a product (I bought Zienth televisions for years, until they were no longer manufactured here).
You younger guys may not realize this, but there was a day when we all had a choice when buying electronics.
For the time being, we at least have the same choice when buying tools.
I do, however, still have a choice when it comes to purchasing a vehicle.
I think that several of you are missing my point concerning japanese cars - the money goes to JAPAN. No matter if Americans build the vehicles here, the profit still goes to Japan.
Study how the japanese treated our service people who were isolated by their cowardly sneak attacks and then captured once their ammunition and other supplies ran out.
Then tell yourself that that was a long time ago when you get into your japanese car. I hope that doing so eases your mind.
In case you didn't know they are our allies now....
Just remember when you get into your American car you're supporting Mexico not the USA thanks to greedy CEO's and unchained unions in this country.
I'm pro American as the next guy but the America my grandfather grew up in doesn't exist anymore. I wouldn't be worried about what brand my car is and be more worried about the split I see with our country and where that's headed.
wildman1
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No wonder they are our "allies" - we have completely re-built their country (read industry), and have provided their security since the war. Do you think that this may have had something to do with their country's prosperity?
What have our "allies" done for us, other that reverse engineer our technology innovations and then undercut our manufacturing base with cheap goods? Do you really think that radios, televisions, computers, etc. were invented and developed through R&D in Japan?
How many American vehicles do you think are sold in Japan?
I get into one of my American trucks every day - the profit from all of them went to an AMERICAN corporation.
Oh, one more thing - Mitsubishi manufactured those Zeros that attacked Pearl Harbor .....
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Toolhorder
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Yeah I've heard all this before, what did you want Japan to do be a welfare country or something that we have to support for the rest of our time? So they prospered big deal. So did we after WW2. I don't have a problem with Japan outselling the US automakers. I love my country but they build a better car and have a better sense of what consumers want (reliability for one) so as a capitialist based economy they won. If any US auto maker wanted to turn it around they would but they won't when the congress will bail them out and the CEO's will still collect a profit. There is no sense of nationalism in the big three anymore. I don't like it but it's the facts. My Toyota made by Hino in Japan and imported to the US will outlast any piece of mexican made US car out there. I won't think about anything when I get into it except how happy I am I'm not going to have to pull over and call a tow truck.
I know importing a US made car is hard to do in Japan but I can tell you US cars are luxury items there. I went to motorcycle repair school with a Japanese exchange student and his dad has a 90's Dodge caravan and he said it's a status symbol like having a benz. here in the US.
