Above 1200 Sq/FT Restored 1930's Auto Shop
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Brian R
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tonyciambrone
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easy big fella...
Blue Monster
I'm taking a lunch break and wanted to clear this up. First of all I make mistakes all the time (just ask Chris, she'll definitely confirm that!
) I try my best not to but it still happens. When I do make a boo-boo, I do my level best to correct it and then move on. The world is not a perfect place after-all.
Blue Monster is all I use for sealing pipes, water, air tool fittings or natural gas. It works extremely well and I've never had an issue with it. The old white Teflon pipe tape just doesn't work like the old "stuff" did. As Turbo1Ton points out, Blue Monster specifically states, natural gas is a recommended application. The power company natural gas engineer was here 3 days ago looking over the installation and he had no issue with any aspect of it. Blue Monster; it works good and lasts a long time.
Now moving along, here's a better picture of the new stone wall...
...still haven't washed it down. It'll look a lot better then. It will have a limestone cap on it and it does a swell job of hiding the power generator.
I did my best to integrate it into the existing stone corner on the house so I wouldn't have a joint right at the corner. Once it's washed down I think it'll "blend in" with the existing stone, hope so anyway.
Once again my sincere thanks to everyone for your interest and helping me to stay on my toes. It's a full time job.
Thomas
I'm taking a lunch break and wanted to clear this up. First of all I make mistakes all the time (just ask Chris, she'll definitely confirm that!
) I try my best not to but it still happens. When I do make a boo-boo, I do my level best to correct it and then move on. The world is not a perfect place after-all.Blue Monster is all I use for sealing pipes, water, air tool fittings or natural gas. It works extremely well and I've never had an issue with it. The old white Teflon pipe tape just doesn't work like the old "stuff" did. As Turbo1Ton points out, Blue Monster specifically states, natural gas is a recommended application. The power company natural gas engineer was here 3 days ago looking over the installation and he had no issue with any aspect of it. Blue Monster; it works good and lasts a long time.
Now moving along, here's a better picture of the new stone wall...
...still haven't washed it down. It'll look a lot better then. It will have a limestone cap on it and it does a swell job of hiding the power generator.
I did my best to integrate it into the existing stone corner on the house so I wouldn't have a joint right at the corner. Once it's washed down I think it'll "blend in" with the existing stone, hope so anyway.
Once again my sincere thanks to everyone for your interest and helping me to stay on my toes. It's a full time job.
Thomas
No ill will meant. Just meant that it wouldn't be like Thomas to overlook that.
Also having just reworked all my gas lines when putting in new HVAC units and water heater over the last year and we used the blue monster tape and dope. And I verified it was good prior to using.
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C_F
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Wow, the blending job with the existing stone is amazing! If I hadn't seen the photos of the wall being made, looking at that last photo, I would have never guessed they were not built at the same time. Very nice!
realvc
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Wow, the blending job with the existing stone is amazing! If I hadn't seen the photos of the wall being made, looking at that last photo, I would have never guessed they were not built at the same time. Very nice!
My exact same thoughts. A Gold Star Award Wall to be sure. Way to Go and an Atta Boy too.
markviii
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And there are even some of the stones left over, but not many.
Tom makes few mistakes over all - research, research, research helps. Me, on the other hand, ... It's a work in progress.
The deck is coming along. We're looking at temps in the 50s next week, so hopefully that outside project can be completed by the end of the week. Then maybe Tom will get some time off from those 12+ hour days over this past 1.5 years.
Chris
Tom makes few mistakes over all - research, research, research helps. Me, on the other hand, ... It's a work in progress.
The deck is coming along. We're looking at temps in the 50s next week, so hopefully that outside project can be completed by the end of the week. Then maybe Tom will get some time off from those 12+ hour days over this past 1.5 years.
Chris
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Thirdyfivepickup
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It takes something special to keep a group of guys captivated for 550+ pages that doesn't involve ****** or alcohol. Or both. You continue to raise the bar and impress me over and over.
Well that door swings both ways Thirdyfivepickup. You guys have made doing this thread such fun for both Chris and myself. Later this week is the 12th year anniversary of our purchasing this property and in a couple of months will be 8th year of this thread. I've got more coming.
Now looking at the wall closest to the deck it's more apparent how it will function as both a fire barrier for the generator (covered by the short blue tarp in the middle) and once the limestone cap is on it, it'll be a nice bench for sitting on. I'm not planning on putting a back rest on it presently, I'll see how it turns out. You can also see what a nice view we have from that deck.
On the street side of the generator is the stone wall. That wall got washed down today and I'll get a picture of it washed posted. I think it really turned out well and blends in seamlessly with the house.
This is the other deck that is being constructed at the same time. It's off the back side of the garage.
Around the corner from it you can see the barn in the distance.
You might note that both decks are located on inside corners of the house where the roof dumps a lot of water down those roof valleys. Remember I'm not using gutters. To help move water away from the house, I'm using a system under the deck boards called DrySpace: https://timbertech.com/products/fastening-and-finishing/dryspace
It consists of vinyl panels in the shape of a "V"...
...that are attached to the bottom of the floor joists with a slight slope away from the house. They are 16' (4.8 m) long and any water that filters down between the deck boards will fall into the panels where it is carried 16' away and then falls onto the ground. From there, the natural slope of the ground will carry it further away from the house. By doing this I'm making sure that only minimal amounts of water will soak into the ground near the basement walls further assuring that I'll never have any moisture problems with the basement.
To be continued.
Thomas
Grizz1963
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Clever stuff using that system
Getting the water away from the house under the deck.
My deck out back has been there about 20 years and to be honest, the previous owner did zero maintenance, so it is in decline, despite me maximising it's maintenance the last 7 years.
I will need to replace it at some point soon, as I do not want to patch it up year after year.
I am considering using recycled plastic type boards for the deck, and looking at what options there are other than treated wood, for the supports and bearers.
Getting the water away from the house under the deck.
My deck out back has been there about 20 years and to be honest, the previous owner did zero maintenance, so it is in decline, despite me maximising it's maintenance the last 7 years.
I will need to replace it at some point soon, as I do not want to patch it up year after year.
I am considering using recycled plastic type boards for the deck, and looking at what options there are other than treated wood, for the supports and bearers.
Thomas,
I think you will be very happy with the "dryspace" material. I used something very similar for my deck and the deck space below has been bone dry for several years. While your not using it for creating living space, I can understand the premise of it's use to move water away from your beautiful home.
Dino
I think you will be very happy with the "dryspace" material. I used something very similar for my deck and the deck space below has been bone dry for several years. While your not using it for creating living space, I can understand the premise of it's use to move water away from your beautiful home.
Dino
1949 caddyman
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Are leaves getting in the dryspace a concern? Looks like a nice system to move water away.
stillp
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I like the idea, but won't that nice dry space encourage vermin to set up home there?
Pete
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bryceaugustine
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as always, just wow.
Boosted1
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Love the updates as usual.
The gap between deck boards is 1/8" - 1/4". Large leaves can't get through that small area. Any debris that does make it through would wash out the end...
...since there is no obstruction there, it's completely open.
Thanks Dino for your kind words. I think the system has lots of merit. I don't really need it but thought it'd be extra insurance against any future problems. I also used a landscape fabric under the rock to further encourage water to move away from the walls.
Good question Pete. The deck space underneath will be sealed all around to prevent any critters from making it their home. I can understand why they'd like to live here, heck I like living here.
Thomas
stillp
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MG David
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In my experience if you want to be certain that rats etc are not going to live under the deck you have to use paving rather than a deck.
However if you want the outside space to have the same floor level as the inside space then paving would need a lot of fill which often leads to the paving becoming uneven after settlement.
So I can understand why you went for a deck. Less back breaking to build as well.
However if you want the outside space to have the same floor level as the inside space then paving would need a lot of fill which often leads to the paving becoming uneven after settlement.
So I can understand why you went for a deck. Less back breaking to build as well.
BuffettFan
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Chris and Thomas,
I come to you from the distant past, 2010 and page 77 to be exact.
I hope to catch up to you in the present at some point, but you make progress faster than I can read about it!
Beautiful work on the garage, barn, cars and property. I can't wait to see what you did in 2011!
Terry
I come to you from the distant past, 2010 and page 77 to be exact.
I hope to catch up to you in the present at some point, but you make progress faster than I can read about it!
Beautiful work on the garage, barn, cars and property. I can't wait to see what you did in 2011!
Terry
threeputt
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Thomas, your work is great. I have really enjoyed watching you do this. Thanks. From another Thomas
David it never crossed my mind that rats might live under the deck.
I've lived in Philo for almost 60 years and I have never seen or heard of anyone here having that issue here in our quaint little village. Field mice, raccoons, or a stray...
...possum perhaps, but deary me, no rats thank you very much. That's a big city problem I should think.
Seriously the deck needs to be at the same level...
... as the patio doors, no steps on the ground floor anywhere in the house, so the deck needed to be elevated. I'm fairly confident I can get the space underneath the deck sealed up and varmint free.
Terry that was one of the more fun posts we've had here in a while. This reply and welcome will be waiting for you when you get caught up to 2017. BTW, Chris is still the object of my affection after all these years.
Thomas, your work is great. I have really enjoyed watching you do this. Thanks. From another Thomas
Clearly with a name like that threeputt you are a man of intelligence and uncommonly good taste. Thank you sir!
Thomas
Gus Updates
Since I'm sure many of you are sick to death of "house stuff", here's a automotive related post detailing some additional repairs/improvements Lou and I performed on Gus...
...the 1948 Shop Jeep pickup truck, a few months back.
The first order of business was to thoroughly go through the distributor...
... to correct/repair and tuneup items related to it.
NAPA supplied all the necessary components for the distributor - cap, rotor, points, condenser and pigtails. The vacuum advance was removed and found to be frozen. After soaking it in AeroKoil it was freed up and performing correctly. The housing which was badly rusted was also cleaned up and painted.
A new vacuum advance line was fabricated to replace the old, badly bent line. That is some of Lou's handy work on the line fabrication.
Gus had always run very rich, so the Carter carburetor was removed, disassembled, cleaned and rebuilt with a NAPA rebuild kit. The main metering rod was found to be stuck which was the main reason for a rich running condition. A new throttle return spring replaced a not-so-good, old spring.
A new, higher capacity air cleaner element was installed, allowing Gus to breath better, always a good thing.
With the installation of the correct air cleaner assembly 2 years ago, a better looking, pre-formed oil breather line was finally found and installed.
Lastly when a new coil was installed, the coil hold-down bracket was found to be missing a bolt and was only supporting the coil with a single bolt. That was corrected.
Under the hood, Gus is much happier now...
...starting easily, idling smoothly and accelerating with zest, or at least as much zest as he muster forth. He is 70 years old after all!
After all that, Lou and I turned our attention to rewiring the body...
...in order to replace all of the original, 70 year old cloth covered wiring.
2 electrical buses were installed so from the firewall rearward or forward, all the old body wiring has now been replaced. I still need to rewire the dash instruments so they will be compatible with a 12 volt electrical system.
The rear turn signal housings...
... were rewired and tidied up, the inside of the housing painted with chrome paint for better reflectivity of the bulbs and a cracked lens replaced.
Every year Gus gets more improvements. I'm not restoring Gus, merely preforming necessary service and maintenance work. After all, he's earned his 70 year old patina.
Stand by for more on Gus in future posts.
Thomas
Since I'm sure many of you are sick to death of "house stuff", here's a automotive related post detailing some additional repairs/improvements Lou and I performed on Gus...
...the 1948 Shop Jeep pickup truck, a few months back.
The first order of business was to thoroughly go through the distributor...
... to correct/repair and tuneup items related to it.
NAPA supplied all the necessary components for the distributor - cap, rotor, points, condenser and pigtails. The vacuum advance was removed and found to be frozen. After soaking it in AeroKoil it was freed up and performing correctly. The housing which was badly rusted was also cleaned up and painted.
A new vacuum advance line was fabricated to replace the old, badly bent line. That is some of Lou's handy work on the line fabrication.
Gus had always run very rich, so the Carter carburetor was removed, disassembled, cleaned and rebuilt with a NAPA rebuild kit. The main metering rod was found to be stuck which was the main reason for a rich running condition. A new throttle return spring replaced a not-so-good, old spring.
A new, higher capacity air cleaner element was installed, allowing Gus to breath better, always a good thing.
With the installation of the correct air cleaner assembly 2 years ago, a better looking, pre-formed oil breather line was finally found and installed.
Lastly when a new coil was installed, the coil hold-down bracket was found to be missing a bolt and was only supporting the coil with a single bolt. That was corrected.
Under the hood, Gus is much happier now...
...starting easily, idling smoothly and accelerating with zest, or at least as much zest as he muster forth. He is 70 years old after all!
After all that, Lou and I turned our attention to rewiring the body...
...in order to replace all of the original, 70 year old cloth covered wiring.
2 electrical buses were installed so from the firewall rearward or forward, all the old body wiring has now been replaced. I still need to rewire the dash instruments so they will be compatible with a 12 volt electrical system.
The rear turn signal housings...
... were rewired and tidied up, the inside of the housing painted with chrome paint for better reflectivity of the bulbs and a cracked lens replaced.
Every year Gus gets more improvements. I'm not restoring Gus, merely preforming necessary service and maintenance work. After all, he's earned his 70 year old patina.
Stand by for more on Gus in future posts.
Thomas
realvc
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Gus looks happier with each improvement.
stillp
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I wasn't so much thinking of rats, as termites and other insects.
Pete
Pete
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Re: Gus Updates
Not true. Although the updates on Gus are a change what you have been doing with the home has been very interesting as it all relates to the property along with the Garage.
Not true. Although the updates on Gus are a change what you have been doing with the home has been very interesting as it all relates to the property along with the Garage.
scramboleer
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Yeah Gus! Thanks for posting about him.
(Outstanding work on the house too.)
(Outstanding work on the house too.)
Thirdyfivepickup
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Im sure no one will mention the clocking on the screws on the junction block...
stillp
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cshades
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I was actually surprised to see nylon insulated terminals instead of bare terminals with shrink tube.
Spareparts
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Nothing wrong with them as long as they are plated brass and not the steel ones that rust, and you don't think Thomas will put Good Old Guss away in the shop without removing the snow and gunk off first. Guss is living the good life now.
Can't wait until you see the photos of the deck and zoom in to see if I clocked those screws too!!
He is living the good life indeed!
Pete, I've used treated lumber on all areas under the decking. That was to prevent rot and damage from termites or other insects. Even though it's treated, no lumber of any sort contacts the ground.
Holes for piers were drilled 38"- 40" deep, sonotubes...
...were used for concrete foams...
...to set the decking supports on.
Landscape fabric was laid down...
...under the deck area and the fabric was cover with pea gravel. Piers were used all around the perimeter, even by the house, as well as in the center to support the joists.
The ground has good fall away from the house, it drains well. I don't anticipate any problems there.
Thomas
cshades
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I was actually referring to the look of the nylon term vs shrink tube term. When I wire a car I always use a bare term or remove the nylon part and shrink tube it. Makes for a much cleaner finished product.
rick8928
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Thomas and Chris,
Just caught up with your last year of posts. Wow! The amount of energy expended and perfection achieved. I'm exhausted having just read it. Can only imagine what having lived it must be like.
Relative to the Beltsville Shell story that a bunch of folks on this thread are enjoying, I just discovered this wonderful 346 page thread on the historical Mulholland Drive (Los Angeles) street racing scene from back in the day. Much like this thread, there's multiple excursions into various stories. Great Read!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-...3-what-happened-mulholland-king-hill-rsr.html
Just caught up with your last year of posts. Wow! The amount of energy expended and perfection achieved. I'm exhausted having just read it. Can only imagine what having lived it must be like.
Relative to the Beltsville Shell story that a bunch of folks on this thread are enjoying, I just discovered this wonderful 346 page thread on the historical Mulholland Drive (Los Angeles) street racing scene from back in the day. Much like this thread, there's multiple excursions into various stories. Great Read!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-...3-what-happened-mulholland-king-hill-rsr.html
stillp
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I prefer the look of shrink sleeving as well, but Gus is no trailer queen, and I guess nobody but Thomas and Lou are going to inspect his underpinnings.
Pete
stillp
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Thomas, I was concerned about the ants actually preferring that nice dry environment to nest in. My wife is phobic about ants, so I'm a bit sensitive about anything that encourages them to set up home.
Pete
Craptain
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I wouldn't bet on that. Gus is already quite a good looking truck and attracts attention. Who knows when he might appear in a show.
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Snap_cap
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Re: Restored 1930's Auto Shop Will Continue
Switchplate cover wasn't your fault, it was threaded crooked! It was cast wrong! The steel wasn't homogeneous! The screws were cut at the wrong pitch angle! The Coriolis effect of the Earth's rotation twisted the faceplate!
IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT!
(Allegedly.)
Switchplate cover wasn't your fault, it was threaded crooked! It was cast wrong! The steel wasn't homogeneous! The screws were cut at the wrong pitch angle! The Coriolis effect of the Earth's rotation twisted the faceplate!
IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT!
(Allegedly.)
Re: Restored 1930's Auto Shop Will Continue
For the longest time, Lou has wanted me to put a level on the switch plate cover.
His theory is that the cover is actually level, it's the clap board siding that's crooked!
But then again, it's grown on me over the years. I take comfort knowing all is well with the world if I look over at the cover and see it askew. I still get visitors to shop asking about it and wanting to see it in person. It's become a feature of the shop now. Who knew................
Thomas
For the longest time, Lou has wanted me to put a level on the switch plate cover.
His theory is that the cover is actually level, it's the clap board siding that's crooked!
But then again, it's grown on me over the years. I take comfort knowing all is well with the world if I look over at the cover and see it askew. I still get visitors to shop asking about it and wanting to see it in person. It's become a feature of the shop now. Who knew................
Thomas