Can't believe I'm even considering this, but...

[oldberkeley]

I've done a lot of remodeling, especially tiling. Not a pro, but decent.

Problem is I'm old, tired and poor!

My son and his wife have a small, very modest house they want to sell. Kitchen floor is currently a worn-out sheet of vinyl. Normally I'd pull it up, then backerboard and tile: expensive and labor-intensive.

Considering peel & stick 12" x 12" vinyl tiles (gag!).

Would appreciate any feedback. If done carefully, do they look "acceptable" ? To me, that's the key. Not trying to fool anyone, obviously they are what they are.

TIA

 

[ScottsGT]

My inlaws had it in a 3000 sq ft nice home up in NY years ago. I never realized it was squares until they had to replace a few when they moved. Done right, it looks fine.

 

[ez-duzit]

Roll flooring or nothing.

 

[pancho400cid]

If you are looking for fast and cheap for selling purposes, I suggest looking at vinyl plank flooring. You can lay it over the sheet vinyl assuming it's in good "mechanical" shape.

Pretty cheap and super fast to put down (no glue).

I put it in the kitchen of our rent house, over VCT, about 4 years ago. Still looks great.

https://www.waterproofflooringoutlet.com/vinyl-flooring/vinyl-plank.html

 

[The Cobbler]

personally I would spend a little more & go with luxury vinyl plank . peel & stick looks like peel & stick to me . kitchen and bath is the area most perused rooms when house hunting

 

[kbs2244]

Have your son pull out the old as a part of the sale.
Demo is for young and dumb.
It is how they learn how things are put together.

 

[PoorOwner]

I had terrible results with peel and stick. The floor needs to be absolutely flat or the edges will show the lip of the material and or not adhere flat.
There are some where you have to use mastic and grout. Those I thought was real tiles.

 

[eddieK]

I reluctantly used the grout style peel and stick...looks real and wears much better than i thought it would

 

[lakelandcat]

If its on a slab you don't have to use backerboard, just thinset over worn out vinyl if its stuck down right the first time. if it's peer and beam you will want to use backer board to stabilize. Go to big box store and find some discontinued tile. It will look great and it's cheap. Have someone with good knees and back to help, just supervise. It won't cost that much more than stick down and it's a lot more impressive.

 

[ambenz]

Just don't roll a stove or refrigerator over those vinyl plank floors, they will separate in a heartbeat!
And...if the separate at the beginning of the layout, you're pulling it all up to fix the separation.
I do HATE those vinyl plank floors for that reason!
Stick with peel and stick, easy pleasy...KISS...keep it simple stupid!

 

[58Yeoman]

We used peel n stick in the whole basement (~1500 sq. ft.). We had to remove all the old stuff, which was a pain. PnS went down quick and looks good for what it is. Looks way better than the 70's style they had before. We got water in our basement a couple times before I fixed the crack in the wall. Only three tiles had come up because of the water over a couple year period.

 

[bwringer]

Cheap thin peel-n-stick ***** and looks cheap.

The thicker, less cheap stuff can look pretty amazing and lasts forever. As noted above, there's even some that you can grout and seal. Use the correct primer for the floor and tiles.

And toss an extra box or two in the attic or basement as a gift to your future self.

 

[ishiboo]

personally I would spend a little more & go with luxury vinyl plank . peel & stick looks like peel & stick to me . kitchen and bath is the area most perused rooms when house hunting

Luxury vinyl plank is awesome. I used it as a temporary floor covering in my what is now mud room, which will be replaced by one next to it in the new garage. I will definitely be using it again. Easy as pie to install, durable, looks decent (better than rolled/vinyl tile by 100% IMHO, not as great as real hardwood/tile)

You literally install it with a utility knife and a straight edge.

 

[cvairwerks]

Sell with a $500 allowance for kitchen floor replacement...no muss, fuss or aches and pains, as well as no time spent. The buyer can put what they want in.

 

[Stuart in MN]

I have peel and stick tiles in my kitchen, they've held up great for years and years. Like anything else, buy good quality products to get a good installation.

 

[oldmxracer]

I have used it (gag !), proper prep before You stick them down helps a lot !

Would use it again !

 

[RVDan]

My house was done with that ****. Two days with a heat gun and scraper to remove it all, them constant scraping to remove every piece of grit the sticky stuff left behind picks up while working on putting new flooring down.

 

[BADSIX]

personally I would spend a little more & go with luxury vinyl plank . peel & stick looks like peel & stick to me . kitchen and bath is the area most perused rooms when house hunting

do this easy to install and looks great. or go to a good laminate even better In my opinion
Jay D.

 

[oldberkeley]

Much obliged for the prompt and informative responses. A few additional questions:

1. If I do go with the peel & stick, I might as well get the best stuff I can. Is there a particular brand that someone can recommend?

2. The existing vinyl is old, stained and dated looking, but it is stuck down! Can I put the peel & stick over it, or should I remove it?

3. Was looking at an older thread on this topic, and Allure vinyl planking from HD was mentioned. Have spent the last hour looking at YouTube videos about it. The majority of folks are positive, but a fair amount say it *****. Any thoughts on this product from someone who has used it? Also, I think that Allure comes in a click & lock version and a version with a glue strip on one end and one side. Which is better?

 

[ez-duzit]

Unsubscribed.

 

[captaindiode]

I put the Allure with the peal and stick strip in my rental property bathroom. All you need is a combination square, a straight edge, a j roller and a utility knife. It has held up fine was fairly easy to install, once you get the hang of it. I ruined a couple of pieces learning what I was doing, but after that it was good. It is a floating floor so leave a gap at the edges and finish with shoe molding so it can expand and contract. I used the kind with peel and stick strip because I thought it would withstand occasional water better in the bathroom. Oh, and it looks good, too.

 

[DC73]

Haven't used peel and stick for floors but it works great under the kitchen sink.

DC

 

[pancho400cid]

Allure vinyl planking from HD

That is what I used and where I got it for our rent house. That house has crazy foundation movement (pier&beam on clay soil). I needed something that could take the movement. The vinyl composition tile now under the Allure was cracking after a few years. I used the self-stick version. The Allure does not adhere to the subfloor. They instruct you NOT to glue/nail it down in fact...

It has survived about four tenants including move in/outs... but the fridge and stove never moved except the first time I put them back after installation.... so there's that.

I like it a lot. Also recommended to a friend for his house and helped him put it in. He and his wife like it too.

Capt Diode's comments are spot on.

 

[jd_1138]

Sell with a $500 allowance for kitchen floor replacement...no muss, fuss or aches and pains, as well as no time spent. The buyer can put what they want in.

Problem is that if the floor looks bad, a lot of buyers will turn up their noses and offer low amounts. Most buyers have zero imagination and don't know basic home repair stuff.

I'd get the floor plank in a nice shade.

 

[Aberdale]

Sell with a $500 allowance for kitchen floor replacement...no muss, fuss or aches and pains, as well as no time spent. The buyer can put what they want in.

+1.

If I were looking to buy, this would be my preference. Peel and stick would be a turn-off for me. Rather than waste your time and money to do a "cover up" job, just knock a little off the price to let me do it right after I move in.

 

[finn]

I used peal and stick in a bedroom and bath in a project house. I used vinyl plank in the other bath and bedroom.

The peal and stick squares were easier, and look ok in my opinion....it’s not a mansion, it’s a lake cottage.

I used a floating hardwood plank in my living room. It doesn’t work with radiant floor heat in a relatively large room. I have to tear it up and nail it down, or go with an alternative flooring scheme.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

Lots of options between peel-n-stick and a full tile job, in both labor and cost.

At my first house the floor was worn out but not cracked or chipped. I cleaned it up and put down the peel-n-stick tiles. This was in the kitchen and my main entryway/laundry room. They held up fine for many years. Moved refrigerators, washer and dryer many times.

 

[Platonic Solid]

My rental house had old peal and stick over a solid vinyl flooring. Had to remove it as sitting in a chair would leave deep chair leg dents. Can't help with new install as I got lucky and discovered 100 year old hardwood flooring underneath it all which I sanded and refinished.

 

[brownbagg]

what about laminated wood, the one that snap together and just floats on top of the other surface

 

[6768rogues]

If the existing floor is really clean the new tiles will stick to it. If the existing floor has any texture, it will show through the new tiles. I had peel and stick in my kitchen years ago and it was over luan plywood. When we tore it out the plywood had deteriorated because spills and washing the floor let water go between the tiles. If you are looking to freshen it up so no one notices a worn out floor at a showing to sell it, go for it.

 

[Lelandwelds]

I've done absolutely beautiful floors with peel and stick.
I also had a batch that was off size by only 1/64 " per tile.

Add that up over a 44 feet long floor.
No good way to fix it, had to come back up.

Old, tired, poor...
Hire it out. Or consider vinyl plank floor. Easy and forgiving.

Roll flooring or nothing.

I had peel and stick in the old kitchen. When it is new it is (bleh) OK. When old, the seams show a tiny black crack that no cleaning can remove.

I have never had or installed vinyl plank. I saw some at a model home that I swore was wood flooring. Beautiful stuff.

 

[andys]

I used the peel and stick tile with VCT adhesive underneath. They will never come up by accident.

The tile is also the groutable kind and it looks like real tile when it's done. It was a terrible sticky mess and the adhesive had to be used within a certain window of time once it was rolled so it was a marathon session but came out very nice.

 

[ard]

IMO if they are selling the house, the look and feel (and knowledge) of tile will be attractive to buyers.

You can have the worlds' best looking vinyl __[whatever]_____, yet a buyer or agent will come in and tap their foot and say "oh, its vinyl"

Have the kid do the work, take a weekend max....

 

[shepherd]

Wood based laminate is about as cheap as it gets, lock and click, float over the existing floor with a layer of foam...they make click laminate that actually looks like tile too.

 

[gungatim]

Wood based laminate is about as cheap as it gets, lock and click, float over the existing floor with a layer of foam...they make click laminate that actually looks like tile too.

that's exactly what I would do. my in-laws used that and it looks like real tile.

I did peel and stick when I sold my trailer many years ago. it turned out good but I had to put subfloor down over delaminated wood parquet. I would not have used it if I were staying. spills and mopping eventually get under the seams/gaps (there WILL be some--no floor is perfect) and it will eventually lift and look like ****...

for the amount of labor, pergo/laminate flooring is the way to go.

 

[PugetDude]

I reluctantly used the grout style peel and stick...looks real and wears much better than i thought it would

+1 on this.

Use self-stick LVT in 12x24 format, easy to score and snap with a utility knife. Sticks like death if you roll it down. The synthetic grout goes on super easy. Spot-on dimensionally, uses regular 1/8 tile spacers for the grout joints so it's very forgiving. I did a couple of bathrooms with it and it still looks like new 2years later. Just make sure the floor is super clean before you start, no grit or dust- I wiped the floor with denatured alcohol.

You're trying to spruce the house up for sale, not remodel it to someone else's specifications.

Good luck.

 

[PugetDude]

Unsubscribed.

Seriously? You needed to announce that?

 

[steveo1o9]

My Dad put down large 18" stick vinyl years ago and it turned out good. It was the thicker tile not the thin cheap ones. Only issue he had was one seam that oozed glue for years.

 

[nes999]

In my old enclosed trailer I put a high end peel and stick tile in the front portion where I had a small work bench. Many people thought it was real granite until they stood on it.

I would go with a real tile if the kitchen is small. In the end peel and stick is still vinyl and that is a turn off to many buyers. Someone else suggested looking for close out/discontinued tile. We have a store in town that sells only discontinued building supplies. I was able to retile my kitchen for less than Home Depot and lowes wanted for roll vinyl.



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