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Really the Klutch is a better mig welder then the Esab 141i.. Had the Tweco 141i,211i, and Esab 252i.. Also had a little Lincoln 140 at the same time as the Klutch.. The Klutch is the real deal, and had many quality machines from Miller, Esab,Thermal-arc(sanrex), and Lincoln. The Klutch is very easy to dial-in, and that's huge for most people. The Miller 215 above would probably be similar in arc quality to the Klutch when running on 120 volts. I only push the Klutch, because The Reman unit is such a deal when picked up for $250.00. It's the hands down bargain in the 120 volt only machines..
 

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Really the Klutch is a better mig welder then the Esab 141i.. Had the Tweco 141i,211i, and Esab 252i.. Also had a little Lincoln 140 at the same time as the Klutch.. The Klutch is the real deal, and had many quality machines from Miller, Esab,Thermal-arc(sanrex), and Lincoln. The Klutch is very easy to dial-in, and that's huge for most people. The Miller 215 above would probably be similar in arc quality to the Klutch when running on 120 volts. I only push the Klutch, because The Reman unit is such a deal when picked up for $250.00. It's the hands down bargain in the 120 volt only machines..

You've had 9+ different 110vwelders and Klutch is the best of the bunch?:headscrat
 

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I have the Lincoln Power Mig 210. Can weld at 120 or 240 and can do MIG as well as DC TIG. A lot of power for the price.
 

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You've had 9+ different 110vwelders and Klutch is the best of the bunch?:headscrat


I had mostly 240 volt machines, and some 120 volt units.. Mostly Miller stuff there. Standard ,and inverter.. I could not list all the 240 units I have owned or used.. Hands down my favorite is the Sanrex/Thermal-arc MST-400/LM series over Miller, or Lincoln Inverters. I also liked the Esab/260-300,Miller Shopmate300DX chopper machines Very well. Owned them too..It's a combo of excellent wet-out, crisp-arc, great arc starts.,The klutch has those qualities even in the low rent units.. From what I have seen, and heard form some people I trust. The Miller 215 has those qualities I look for in a machine.. Although I will never buy one with my Thermal LM and Esab 160i, that does what I need/want in a mig unit..Even without Pulse of some of my other units. MK,and Lincoln stuff. Mostly short-arc quality, and good solid spray does most of what I would ever need..

Welded with many 120 volt units over the years. Like the Thermal-arc 131/ Lincoln 125 plus, Lincoln 140c, Passport plus..Hobart 140.others too.

My other friend bought a Klutch 140si, and really likes those machines too. He has tons of units over the years to compare too. We all got in on the Hobart 210 test unit years ago, and have a background on what is out there..

I don't own any China welding machines at the moment, but sure know some can be excellent units overall.
 
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I have a Hobart Handler 135 that I bought about 15-16 years ago, from Harbor Freight, believe it or not. Still runs strong, does everything I've asked it to. Hobart makes good machines.
 
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Thank you everyone for the suggestions and Merry Christmas.

I have a lot of research to do, but I'll be sure to update this thread when I finally make a purchase.
 

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Pick any Lincoln, Miller, or Hobart that you can use with 120 and you'll be fine. I had a Hobart Handler 140 and it was great.

+1. Great intro for a first machine. (As in "your first car is not your last car. Or only car.")

Ditch the self shield as soon as you can. Swap polarity. Flip over the drive rolls and run .023 solid with 75/25 mix. With practice, some of the Miller /Hobarts can run .030 wire.
 

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Old man told me you can never go to big with a welder when I picked up my econotig years ago. I wish I would’ve save for a synchrowave. When I went from an outdated Italian mig welder to my Miller 211, I really knew what he meant.
 

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I have a Lincoln Weld Pak 140HD, that I am toying around with

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/Equipment/Pages/product.aspx?product=K2514-1(LincolnElectric)

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln-...MIG-Wire-and-Flux-Wire-115V-K2514-1/100670934


A gas bottle seems optional, but not required.....most say it will weld better with a bottle


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It has worked out good for my needs, but I really want to look at getting a small bottle to run with it
 

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I have a Lincoln SP100-9794, bought it new about 28 years ago. Other than drive rollers, tips and nozzles I have yet to need any parts. Awesome little welder.

I built a caddy for it to sit atop my ESAB Multimaster. Makes sharing the backing gas much easier than moving gas bottles.

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My Miller 211 is 110 and 220 capable, and it does really well on 110. No hiccups, no weirdness... and no regrets. And if I ever need to do something heavier, I can always plug into a 220 socket (it even comes with a 220 plug for just such an occasion).
 
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I just bought a multimatic 215. Wasn’t exactly cheap however I do like the fact that I can use 110 or 240... I am assuming this Welder will do everything that I need it to. Just got it last week and haven’t even had a chance to use it yet

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Old man told me you can never go to big with a welder when I picked up my econotig years ago. I wish I would’ve save for a synchrowave. When I went from an outdated Italian mig welder to my Miller 211, I really knew what he meant.

My Miller 211 is 110 and 220 capable, and it does really well on 110. No hiccups, no weirdness... and no regrets. And if I ever need to do something heavier, I can always plug into a 220 socket (it even comes with a 220 plug for just such an occasion).

I havent welded with the new little inverters. Does the arc feel like any of these: a XMT, Maxstar, Cp 302, Deltaweld 452, Millermatic 200, or a Shopmaster?
 

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Personally, I have the Lincoln 140 and I am very happy with it. But no matter which one you get, my advice is to upgrade the **** ground clamp that most of them have. The harbor freight 400 amp clamp (Item # 63849) is a good clamp and it is only $13.99 before the coupon. I can't remember if I got that advice here or somewhere else, but I think it does make a difference. I have put it on two stick welders, 2 migs, and a plasma cutter. I am not a professional, just an over enthusiastic hobbyist.
 

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Sure there are plenty of good 120V machines out there, Miller, Hobart, Lincoln, Century, Esab to name a few... Most of the harbor freight machines are not that great. the new "Vulcan" line seems OK, but at the cost you may as well buy the others....
 

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I bought my Miller 211 strictly because of the future support I knew would come with it. Completely happy and money well spent. I figured it belong in the "Buy once, Cry once" category.
 

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I bought my Miller 211 strictly because of the future support I knew would come with it. Completely happy and money well spent. I figured it belong in the "Buy once, Cry once" category.



I feel the same way about my miller 215 since I don’t plan on ever buying another welder and I know it will hold its resale value well if need be but it didn’t come cheap! I am going to reword your saying to “buy once, cry a little bit longer”

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Really the Klutch is a better mig welder then the Esab 141i.. Had the Tweco 141i,211i, and Esab 252i.. Also had a little Lincoln 140 at the same time as the Klutch.. The Klutch is the real deal, and had many quality machines from Miller, Esab,Thermal-arc(sanrex), and Lincoln. The Klutch is very easy to dial-in, and that's huge for most people. The Miller 215 above would probably be similar in arc quality to the Klutch when running on 120 volts. I only push the Klutch, because The Reman unit is such a deal when picked up for $250.00. It's the hands down bargain in the 120 volt only machines..

I was talking today with my brother who just finished an introductory welding class. He mentioned that he was surprised to see a Klutch mig with a spool gun in a lab otherwise full of Lincoln welders, which incidentally, was built with a budget to get whatever the instructor wanted. The instructor said that he felt the Klutch was a very credible, serious machine. He may have even said it was as good as the Lincolns, but since I wasn't there to hear the exact language, I won't make that claim. But he *was* very impressed with it.
 
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Personally, I have the Lincoln 140 and I am very happy with it. But no matter which one you get, my advice is to upgrade the **** ground clamp that most of them have. The harbor freight 400 amp clamp (Item # 63849) is a good clamp and it is only $13.99 before the coupon. I can't remember if I got that advice here or somewhere else, but I think it does make a difference. I have put it on two stick welders, 2 migs, and a plasma cutter. I am not a professional, just an over enthusiastic hobbyist.

What makes this a better clamp or what's the reason to upgrade?
 

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I've had a Hobart Handler 135, probably for almost 20 years.Beyond normal wear and tear, I can't say I've ever had an issue with it. Got it from HF, of all places, as a factory refurb.
 

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My Air Liquide has been flawless 15 years. No longer manufactured but parts still available
 

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