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The VISES of Garage Journal
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trijeff
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TJ: yep all of those LITTLE ones are tiny at 100, 150 & 200 pounds compared to your PRENTISS 98 aren't they?
I bet you will get your exercise and do your young arms and shoulders get sore handling those big vises? also do you haul them home in one piece like I do or are you maybe taking them apart to inspect them a bit better and taking them home in 2 pieces since you are going to restore them anyway?
good luck and hope they have enough GREEN GRABBER PAINT at the store for those or are you planning a different color like maybe the SNAP ON PURPLE?
Haha, at 45 in 3 weeks I don't exactly feel like my arms are young
I guess it's all relative. Probably more about my size, pretty slight, but I can do up to the C3 in one piece. There is no way on the P98, even getting the static minus base past waist high is a pretty good workout.Grabber green is still the go to until eBay decides otherwise. Working on a 9400 bullet and 1740 Tradesman now, both in GG ... if those go good then the C2/C3 will follow.
joe.striper
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QUOTE "JOE: would one of those barrel type Parkers fit on one of those cool Parker stands you found or is it too small? nice restoration and i agree that leaving some of the old 100 year old character on these old vises is nice"
Drives, it would, but that stand is designed for a fixed base vise.
I bought these yesterday. Man are these Hollands. nice
Drives, it would, but that stand is designed for a fixed base vise.
I bought these yesterday. Man are these Hollands. nice
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Nice haul!!!
gman007
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Holy shxx!
So much war booty in one haul! In your corner of the world do you guys buy vises in imperial or metric ton??? And to boot they are quality vises too!chrisnazzy
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Yeah you definitely seem to be in the sweet spot for a guy who likes to go old vise hunting all the time.
Nice haul! Oh and a Baldor grinder just tossed in on top of the heap as if "icing on the cake!"
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Nice haul! Oh and a Baldor grinder just tossed in on top of the heap as if "icing on the cake!"
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thederbyengineer
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Anyone know anything about an 8" allied? Friend on mine picked it up with a broken dynamic and brazed it all back together.
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Private Lugnutz
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The no-namer on the right is tiny, but it has an unusually deep clamping throat and the workbench on my roller cabinet defies most clamp vises, so I was happy with it as a user. I grabbed the c. 1920's Luther for the Lugzsonian but it might be going to a Wisconsinite who has been looking for one.
Fretters
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It's an Asian import.
oldschoolcraft
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My grandfather passed away recently and the only tool he had worth inheriting that seemed interesting to me was this vice. I'd like to clean it up to remember him by.
Also curious what brand it is or if we have any information on monetary value. I have no desire to sell it (priceless since it was my grandfathers), but I like to value all of my tools for insurance purposes and I'm just curious. Only marking is "JAPAN"
Any advise on how to restore it, clean rust, paint it (or leave it as-is), lube it, change the vise mouth area to something else, etc. See attached pictures.
Also curious what brand it is or if we have any information on monetary value. I have no desire to sell it (priceless since it was my grandfathers), but I like to value all of my tools for insurance purposes and I'm just curious. Only marking is "JAPAN"
Any advise on how to restore it, clean rust, paint it (or leave it as-is), lube it, change the vise mouth area to something else, etc. See attached pictures.
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AngryBeaver
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haven't been around too much. been busy working my peepee off with the cold snap we have had. I was able to rejuvenate a couple old snappys over 
and new years. red 1755 went to my snap on dealer for his home garage. the green 1760 one was for me. both ended up with a fancy set of jaws from Kevin. Gave the red one to my snap on guy for Xmas. couldn't find a new cap in time so I pounded out the old cap with a bossing mallet I got from Trusty cook and polished her all up. John was amazed. he saw it before hand and asked if I had any others in better shape for his home shop. He's been a good friend for a number of years (before he was a snap on dealer).
and new years. red 1755 went to my snap on dealer for his home garage. the green 1760 one was for me. both ended up with a fancy set of jaws from Kevin. Gave the red one to my snap on guy for Xmas. couldn't find a new cap in time so I pounded out the old cap with a bossing mallet I got from Trusty cook and polished her all up. John was amazed. he saw it before hand and asked if I had any others in better shape for his home shop. He's been a good friend for a number of years (before he was a snap on dealer). Attachments
gman007
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haven't been around too much. been busy working my peepee off with the cold snap we have had. I was able to rejuvenate a couple old snappys over
AngryBeaver, They both look like brand new now (except for the jaw inserts
which are better than new, as Reverend Scott's jaws are better and harder than new factory ones) , very nicely done! 
chrisnazzy
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AngryBeaver: Very nice job on those Wiltons. I'm sure your friend and Snap-on dealer was blown away by your restoration and generosity. I also really liked the transformation of that butcher block top you posted in another thread. Its obvious you have a fine attention to detail in the projects you undertake.
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I think I just missed the deal of the century on a local classified. Check out the vise in this picture. $35 for the bench and vise. I'm new to the vise world, but it looks like a Wilton to me. If anyone here bought it, I was calling for the bench so if you don't want it...
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gman007
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Taco, It looks like vise might be a C series may be a C1 and regardless of the model number for $35 for the bench and vise , like you said, bro you might have missed one of the deals of century
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drivesitfar
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TACO: while you couldn't do wrong at that price for even just the bench the Wilton maybe C1 looks like it might have a jaw issue (broken support on the dynamic jaw) so maybe one of the guys with those skills to blow up the picture might tell us more.
gman007
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Drives, The original photo has a low resolution to start with and the vise is at far end of the photo too, which is not helping. In any case here is a segmented and blow up of the vise.
It is hard to tell if there is any damage but if I was to use my imagination and not attribute the angle at which this low resolution photo of the vise is taken as a factor, there just might be a difference between static and dynamic jaw symmetry (may be damage to the static rather than dynamic??
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drivesitfar
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007: sorry i meant to say jaw support on static and i've got a bandage on one of my fingers so typing is more of a challenge than usual, but i do have a SENIOR MOMENT NOW AND THEN.
still for $35 the bench or even a part of that Wilton would be worth that.
thanks for showing a better picture
still for $35 the bench or even a part of that Wilton would be worth that.
thanks for showing a better picture
Shiftless
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Taco7:. Too bad you missed it.
I scored a decent Wilton 350 bullet by responding to a workbench ad. I saw the vise on the bench in the C/L ad for “workbench and vise $100” I couldn’t use the bench...no space. So I arranged a meeting and drove out there, laid down my hundred, and just unbolted the vise and left the bench behind. I told the guy he could no doubt get rid of it quickly on the C/L free section or even ask something like $20 and come out ahead. He was happy, I was happy... win-win!
More recently I grabbed a rusty old Reed from a workbench and vise combo that was tossed into the trash. The bench was so rotted out I couldn’t even justify grabbing a few old growth boards for reuse. But the bolt down through the bench model Reed is in the garage waiting for my attention.
I scored a decent Wilton 350 bullet by responding to a workbench ad. I saw the vise on the bench in the C/L ad for “workbench and vise $100” I couldn’t use the bench...no space. So I arranged a meeting and drove out there, laid down my hundred, and just unbolted the vise and left the bench behind. I told the guy he could no doubt get rid of it quickly on the C/L free section or even ask something like $20 and come out ahead. He was happy, I was happy... win-win!
More recently I grabbed a rusty old Reed from a workbench and vise combo that was tossed into the trash. The bench was so rotted out I couldn’t even justify grabbing a few old growth boards for reuse. But the bolt down through the bench model Reed is in the garage waiting for my attention.
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Mr. Wonderful
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GETRIDAONE
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gman007
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Mr. Wonderful, That is a great looking vise and very nicely restored. It is amazing to find such a nice vise in great shape (not even the swiveled jaw pin is missing and jaws inserts are in fantastic shape).
Please kindly provide exact address of the dumpster that the said vise was found in, I would like to set camp by this dumpster
.There is no photo of the side with the model number! Is the model number simply 384 1/2 (which like GETRIDAONE said is from 1930 or later) or is the later model 384 1/2 A (The "A" presumably is from Parker's last builds before becoming Union).
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va.grouseman
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Now that is a real first time post Mr. Wonderful.---You have hit the ground running.---It is just almost unbelievable what some people will throw away.---That's the reason scrap yards are gold mines for owners, workers there, and scavengers where they are allowed.---But that fine piece of history was going to the landfill.---Now that's the definition of a tragedy.---Well done Sir., and a hardy welcome.
Outlawmws
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I'll give that one a first post USUCK! In case you are truly new to GJ Mr. W (and haven't been a lurker before joining), that Is high praise for a great score here at GJ!
Beautiful job restoring it!
Beautiful job restoring it!
KMScott
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Nice score Mr. Wonderful and a second You **** award. I like how the collar was fit and of course need more pic's of the other side and a pic of the jaws since I like looking at serrations. The jaws are the later models and seeing the model number cast might clear up the year it was made. Welcome to GJ
Mr. Wonderful
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It does have an "A" after the model number. You're saying it means its a later year? Here's another before pic and a smaller parker I have with it to match. And of course the jaws. They cleaned up great almost zero wear
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Mark in Indiana
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gman007
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*** One Man's Giant, another Man's tooth pick **
I saw this ad today which reminded me for most folks out there and even those who use vises on reasonably frequent basis, what appears like a Giant vise might just be an average size vise.
In fact when I initially joined the GJ, I posted some photos of a CP 955 and proudly (and stupidly) announced and here is an 85 lb vise.!!!! The folks here being the gentlemen that they are, were kind enough not to mention that compared to their large vises , this is a toothpick or may be at best a paper weight.
So this seller (who by the way thinks the model number for the vise is 248x which I believe in fact it is a 249x 4" jaw size @73 lb and which I think was the predecessor to the Superior 824 @ 85 lb) has my sympathy calling this vise @73 lb (which granted for 4" vise is pretty hefty) a GIANT.
I saw this ad today which reminded me for most folks out there and even those who use vises on reasonably frequent basis, what appears like a Giant vise might just be an average size vise.
In fact when I initially joined the GJ, I posted some photos of a CP 955 and proudly (and stupidly) announced and here is an 85 lb vise.!!!! The folks here being the gentlemen that they are, were kind enough not to mention that compared to their large vises , this is a toothpick or may be at best a paper weight.
So this seller (who by the way thinks the model number for the vise is 248x which I believe in fact it is a 249x 4" jaw size @73 lb and which I think was the predecessor to the Superior 824 @ 85 lb) has my sympathy calling this vise @73 lb (which granted for 4" vise is pretty hefty) a GIANT.
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Mr. Wonderful
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Yes thanks to this thread I have joined the quest to find thhe largest possible Wilton bullet vise... or any other vise that is larger than I can find any reasonable use for!
Shiftless
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Mr. W. :
Very nice work! As several others have already said, it is amazing what some people will throw away. And also...YOU ****!
I’m glad my post triggered some dumpster find stories. Here is a pic of my own dumpster find older model Reed in all of its rusted glory. I haven’t done anything to it so far. But at least now it is in out of the cold and wet.
Very nice work! As several others have already said, it is amazing what some people will throw away. And also...YOU ****!
I’m glad my post triggered some dumpster find stories. Here is a pic of my own dumpster find older model Reed in all of its rusted glory. I haven’t done anything to it so far. But at least now it is in out of the cold and wet.
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drivesitfar
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Mr.W: also WELCOME TO GJ and you come armed for the BIG UNS with your first post. WELL DONE!
I think Parker started his vise company around the Civil war in the 1860's and pretty much was almost done at WWII with all the new steel restrictions and regulations. i'd still wager that your COOL PARKER with it's swivel jaw left the factory prior to WWII. Wow what some guys will toss is amazing cause even though I'm not a huge fan of Parker i'd spend good money to own that one.
Shift: so how deep was that in the dumpster? nice find that is for certain.
All: I needed a new piece of carpet for a project i was building for my daughter last year so my wife and I went to the big carpet place to grab a remnant (inside the store) when the owner mentioned that he thought there was some new pieces that color he saw the installers put in the dumpster and thankfully no rain that day. unfortunately it was a huge dumpster and almost empty, but yes there was new carpet pieces sitting there not touched by dirt. easy to get in, but at 6'3" i almost wasn't able to get out cause no ladder inside like the one outside of it.
i'd jump in again if i saw one of those 2 vises just posted, but i haven't been checking too many dumpsters lately so i'll have to put it on my TO DO LIST.
cheers
I think Parker started his vise company around the Civil war in the 1860's and pretty much was almost done at WWII with all the new steel restrictions and regulations. i'd still wager that your COOL PARKER with it's swivel jaw left the factory prior to WWII. Wow what some guys will toss is amazing cause even though I'm not a huge fan of Parker i'd spend good money to own that one.
Shift: so how deep was that in the dumpster? nice find that is for certain.
All: I needed a new piece of carpet for a project i was building for my daughter last year so my wife and I went to the big carpet place to grab a remnant (inside the store) when the owner mentioned that he thought there was some new pieces that color he saw the installers put in the dumpster and thankfully no rain that day. unfortunately it was a huge dumpster and almost empty, but yes there was new carpet pieces sitting there not touched by dirt. easy to get in, but at 6'3" i almost wasn't able to get out cause no ladder inside like the one outside of it.
i'd jump in again if i saw one of those 2 vises just posted, but i haven't been checking too many dumpsters lately so i'll have to put it on my TO DO LIST.
cheers
Mr. Wonderful
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Thanks! It was attached to a large workbench that was upside down. It took me quite a while to get it free but no way I was giving up. It didn't look like it had been there long. The rust was very light. It had been inside and dry all of its life for sure!
Shiftless
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Drives:
Good thing you weren’t stuck in a dumpster scrounging for scraps of carpet. That would be a family legend that would follow you forever.
As for my dumpster adventure, the bin was almost completely empty except for a rotting old workbench with the 4 inch Reed attached. I opened the 2 doors on the end. That made it easy to grab what I wanted.
Unfortunately, unlike Mr. W., mine was evidently outside just about forever and rusted stuck.
Good thing you weren’t stuck in a dumpster scrounging for scraps of carpet. That would be a family legend that would follow you forever.
As for my dumpster adventure, the bin was almost completely empty except for a rotting old workbench with the 4 inch Reed attached. I opened the 2 doors on the end. That made it easy to grab what I wanted.
Unfortunately, unlike Mr. W., mine was evidently outside just about forever and rusted stuck.
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va.grouseman
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Yes thanks to this thread I have joined the quest to find thhe largest possible Wilton bullet vise... or any other vise that is larger than I can find any reasonable use for!
Yep, you're hooked.
QUOTE ("or any other vise that is larger than I can find any reasonable use for!")
Now that's funny.
---But oh so true.poppinjohnnies
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joe.striper
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Mr. Drives it... "even though I'm not a huge fan of Parker i'd spend good money to own that one" YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!!!!!!
Outlawmws
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Mr. Drives it... "even though I'm not a huge fan of Parker i'd spend good money to own that one" YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!!!!!!
Mark in Indiana
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Mr. Drives it... "even though I'm not a huge fan of Parker i'd spend good money to own that one" YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!!!!!!
Drives: Welcome to the Cool Kids Wantin' Parker Vises Club!
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La_Surge, I'm hoping that you are not burdened with hypertension, if so maybe vise restoration isn't in your best interest.
But a darn nice job in the end.
I think the part I got flustered on was knocking the pins out on the rear assembly. They got bent up pretty good. Everything else was smooth sailing.
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