We are going on a quick family trip this weekend so I searched the CL for the area we are heading to. Found what looks to be a nice Reed 405-1/2 with a swivel jaw. I have texted the seller a few times, but communication has been spotty. Hoping to knock 2/3 off the asking price and take it home.
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Fretters
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2/3's might be a big expectation. Even if it's seriously overpriced, I'd be surprised if you can haggle it down that much.
I like a challenge, and at $350 I feel that $150-175 is fair.
Fretters
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That's around half, not 2/3's.
Unless you're exceptionally good at haggling, else they desperately want shut of it, I'd expect a 1/4 to be a more realistic expectation.Years of practice make perfect!
gman007
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That's around half, not 2/3's.
Jon, Don't listen to Fret, he has ulterior motives as the seller is Fret's American cousin (Fret's uncle and aunt moved from South Yorkshire to Wisconsin in 60s to enjoy the beautiful winters and the cheese)
. The rest of all us are all rooting for you 
but you have sure set a very high bar for yourself
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Fretters
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Jon, Don't listen to Fret, he has ulterior motives as the seller is Fret's American cousin (Fret's uncle and aunt moved from South Yorkshire to Wisconsin in 60s to enjoy the beautiful winters and the cheese)
I'm a Yorkshireman. We're level ******* with the Scot's when it comes to nipping a currant into quarters, but even we know our limits. drivesitfar
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Fretters: while i don't have a clue how to say that or what it exactly means i'm guessing it's sort of like PENNY PINCHER? love the new words I learn from you and others on this site.
Shift: great shelf and family picture. maybe you can save it full size from your phone (Ipad) so we can see it full size? Also with TJ so close maybe he can show you how he does that AMAZING GRABBER GREEN work on his wiltons for you to try?
TJ: yep we need more pictures and i recall one time you told us the tedious process you do to put the paint on and can you maybe put it up on the Vise Repair 101 thread for the other guys that like to paint their vises cause you sir are second to none with your skills. WELL DONE SIR!!
007: don't cut yourself short cause those little open screw vises are pretty handy and not everybody can buy a good old USA made vise so if you don't need it find a good home for it. nice work BTW
ALL: I brought home my stout shelf and was going to put it in my shed and decided to put in my bride's portion of our 2 car garage. only thing is i have 1.5 inch rubber mats on top of 3/4 inch rubber mats and forgot to put a piece of plate under each corner so the 300-400 pound shelving unit is starting to cut into the mat and go off level and that will make my OCD go crazy. wish i owned a fork lift and had a big place to use it, but i guess i'll just get some exercise. i got one of my Reed 2c's on the top shelf cause i'm putting it to rest and setting up my YOST 34c as my main user and i don't think i'll put anything heavier up there cause as i get older i might not be able to get it down. i was going to post a family picture of a few on that big shelf so before i do i need to figure out how to put plates under the legs. wish me luck cause it's all by hand unless i can figure out something else.
i have the thick rubber mats in my garage cause they really help my back when standing and i've only got a 9x15 portion of our 2 car garage to use cause it rains a lot and my bride's car is in the other half.
Shift: great shelf and family picture. maybe you can save it full size from your phone (Ipad) so we can see it full size? Also with TJ so close maybe he can show you how he does that AMAZING GRABBER GREEN work on his wiltons for you to try?
TJ: yep we need more pictures and i recall one time you told us the tedious process you do to put the paint on and can you maybe put it up on the Vise Repair 101 thread for the other guys that like to paint their vises cause you sir are second to none with your skills. WELL DONE SIR!!
007: don't cut yourself short cause those little open screw vises are pretty handy and not everybody can buy a good old USA made vise so if you don't need it find a good home for it. nice work BTW
ALL: I brought home my stout shelf and was going to put it in my shed and decided to put in my bride's portion of our 2 car garage. only thing is i have 1.5 inch rubber mats on top of 3/4 inch rubber mats and forgot to put a piece of plate under each corner so the 300-400 pound shelving unit is starting to cut into the mat and go off level and that will make my OCD go crazy. wish i owned a fork lift and had a big place to use it, but i guess i'll just get some exercise. i got one of my Reed 2c's on the top shelf cause i'm putting it to rest and setting up my YOST 34c as my main user and i don't think i'll put anything heavier up there cause as i get older i might not be able to get it down. i was going to post a family picture of a few on that big shelf so before i do i need to figure out how to put plates under the legs. wish me luck cause it's all by hand unless i can figure out something else.
i have the thick rubber mats in my garage cause they really help my back when standing and i've only got a 9x15 portion of our 2 car garage to use cause it rains a lot and my bride's car is in the other half.
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Fretters
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It is another way of saying: tight as a ducks ****.
Too tight to use/eat a whole currant each, when you can share one amongst four. Us Barnsley folk have often been accused of having the war cry: "How much?". Btw, like those drawer units.
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Definitely agree that is very fair unless its completely restored by KMScott or something your target is pretty darn good.
Outlawmws
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Seconded. I have an open screw vise on my welding box setup. It sees a lot of fabrication work! It is my main ground clamp, and when its a welding job, sees most of the cutting and grinding as well. I could put a bigger vise there, but it would get pretty tall for comfort.
It sits on a folding shelf, and I added a brace I made from conduit over to the box, and there is a ground wire sandwiched in there and that wire is daisy chained to the 1/2" steel plate on top of the roller, and the magnet ground from the welder sits slapped on that plate 99% of the time... I almost never have to mess with a ground unless the item is not on the bench or in the vise.
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Outlawmws
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VA, Not knowing any better, the first US made vise that I bought was a Columbian D33 1/2 and I paid $35 (which was probably $25 too much) for it. But even after I restored it, I am not sure if it is worth $35 now
Wow, you wouldn't know it was the same vise!
Outlawmws
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New year and new shop but old tricks
That is one of, if not the best, letter highlight I think I've seen!
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That is one of, if not the best, letter highlight I think I've seen!
Wow! Good work on lettering and I would not have thought of using that color, but it think it looks GREAT. I may be stealing that color for my next project.
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gman007
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It is another way of saying: tight as a ducks ****.
Btw, like those drawer units.
Fret, I learn so much here every day not only about vises but other things as well. For example today I learned that the English actually speak Greek and not English. The darndest thing is that somehow I seem to understand the individual Greek words but have of course no idea what they mean in a Greek sentence
gman007
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Wow, you wouldn't know it was the same vise!
Outlaw and Drives, Thank you, As usual you are too kind.
trijeff
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Thanks very much fo the compliments guys, it feels great to be back on the horse again (i.e. being able to work on vises). Kids and houses are spare time killers for sure
Fretters
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Fret, I learn so much here every day not only about vises but other things as well. For example today I learned that the English actually speak Greek and not English. The darndest thing is that somehow I seem to understand the individual Greek words but have of course no idea what they mean in a Greek sentence
Just be thankful I use Queen's English instead of local dialect. That'd be even more confusing. A short example:
Btw, in total agreement with the others. That vice looks good.
va.grouseman
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Yost #34C, excellent choice Drive.---That will take care of any job your faced with.
Fretters, I wished there was a published dictionary of Limey Lingo.---(The Webster's Of Limey Vernacular), if you will.
Fretters, I wished there was a published dictionary of Limey Lingo.---(The Webster's Of Limey Vernacular), if you will.
Btw, in total agreement with the others. That vice looks good.
Broad Yorkshire would test most but there's a strain of Cumbrian that most wouldn't have a prayer of understanding, tha nar marra
http://www.cumbriandictionary.co.uk/
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Shiftless
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IMHO, $150 or even $175 for that model in good condition would earn you a you **** from me.
I would gladly pay $250 here.
Big Reeds certainly have their appeal. Right now, I have a 406 and a 4C (and a couple of smaller ones)
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Fretters
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Broad Yorkshire would test most but there's a strain of Cumbrian that most wouldn't have a prayer of understanding, tha nar marra
http://www.cumbriandictionary.co.uk/
Aye, there's some queer talk up there. Some of the Southern dialects can be fun too. Good to see fizzog has the same meaning everywhere. Miners always used to make me chuckle, round here. The dialect can be broad enough at best, but tha really had to go inna full blown speyk wi'em.
Fretters, I wished there was a published dictionary of Limey Lingo.---(The Webster's Of Limey Vernacular), if you will.
A Limey dictionary probably wouldn't be too bad, but if they ever tried doing one for each town or county, it'd probably confuse more than help.
Even we can barely understand some of our relatively close neighbours, town/county wise, at times.
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drivesitfar
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Fretters: thanks for the sort of ENGLISH LESSON. isn't it funny that we speak the same language and we have so many different words.
can you understand a Scotsman or a bloke from IRELAND and is Northern Ireland even different.
speaking of Ireland or Scotland did they make any vises or good old tools cause those guys are pretty handy?
VA: yep my brother in law and his son can build a house or fix anything, but they don't respect a vise or their tools (hence letting them rust in their pick up beds) so the Yost 34c might see some abuse that i didn't want the Reed 2C or my Reed 404.5 or Craftsman 5196 to have to take.
it's probably sitting too high on the bench, but i'm not exactly short so i'll make it work if i'm not using another bench.
thanks and my big 206 Columbian was the other choice and I like it's look better than the Yost which almost looks too new to me, but the 34C's pipe jaws won the toss.
ALL: well my stout shelf will no longer sink into 2.25 inches of rubber cause i managed without any hydraulics. all my jacks were MIA anyway hence my ORGANIZING. nothing like getting a little exercise and if you want to keep your big vises safe from theives might i suggest putting them up on a top shelf cause i can lift a fair amount and pulling that Reed 2c from the top shelf was about all I could muster.
JON: you are optimistic and since you mentioned your ad i'm sure there are others in the MIDWEST that would gladly pay that amount for a Reed 405.5 if it's in great shape. if it's welded or busted or damaged then maybe your pricing might be more in line, but that is one great vise and its on my short list.
good luck and FYI there are non members that watch our thread for pricing, but more so for chatter on vises on Craigslist so unless you've got the vise in your hand one of those guys could be talking to your seller while we are talking about the vise. also sellers love to look here when they have a vise for sale.
I had this conversation with Joe and a few others and even though I'm DEAD TO JOE i bet he owns a lot more vises cause he shows them now after he buys them instead of posting up an ad before he does.
got any pics?
can you understand a Scotsman or a bloke from IRELAND and is Northern Ireland even different.
speaking of Ireland or Scotland did they make any vises or good old tools cause those guys are pretty handy?
VA: yep my brother in law and his son can build a house or fix anything, but they don't respect a vise or their tools (hence letting them rust in their pick up beds) so the Yost 34c might see some abuse that i didn't want the Reed 2C or my Reed 404.5 or Craftsman 5196 to have to take.
it's probably sitting too high on the bench, but i'm not exactly short so i'll make it work if i'm not using another bench.
thanks and my big 206 Columbian was the other choice and I like it's look better than the Yost which almost looks too new to me, but the 34C's pipe jaws won the toss.
ALL: well my stout shelf will no longer sink into 2.25 inches of rubber cause i managed without any hydraulics. all my jacks were MIA anyway hence my ORGANIZING. nothing like getting a little exercise and if you want to keep your big vises safe from theives might i suggest putting them up on a top shelf cause i can lift a fair amount and pulling that Reed 2c from the top shelf was about all I could muster.
JON: you are optimistic and since you mentioned your ad i'm sure there are others in the MIDWEST that would gladly pay that amount for a Reed 405.5 if it's in great shape. if it's welded or busted or damaged then maybe your pricing might be more in line, but that is one great vise and its on my short list.
good luck and FYI there are non members that watch our thread for pricing, but more so for chatter on vises on Craigslist so unless you've got the vise in your hand one of those guys could be talking to your seller while we are talking about the vise. also sellers love to look here when they have a vise for sale.
I had this conversation with Joe and a few others and even though I'm DEAD TO JOE i bet he owns a lot more vises cause he shows them now after he buys them instead of posting up an ad before he does.
got any pics?
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Fretters
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Be intriguing to see what that might look like after a tarting up session.
Fretters
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Generally, aye. Once you adapt to the speed etc. at which they talk, it's not too bad.
Scotland had some. No idea about Ireland. That first vice which I finished with the wax, (the manufacturers name escapes me at the moment), is a Scot's, (Glaswegian), piece.
dutchgray
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I have lived on the Dorset/ Wiltshire boarder all my life and thereare several old locals that I know that I can barely understand, mostly it has to be said the Urban type Dorset accent, which has pretty much died out. Someone from elsewhere has little chance.
Fretters
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It's like when they used to interview an old local on the news, down there, on occasion. I know I could rarely understand any of it.
Outlawmws
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But Fret, they are all speaking English, right? 
Fretters
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But Fret, they are all speaking English, right?
Not necessarily strict English, but even whey they do, some of them have such a broad accent that it still sounds like gibberish.
Some places lilt their pronunciations to such a degree that it could well be another language.
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New year and new shop but old tricks
Wow that looks great! So straight! So crisp! Now do it with the small lettering
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va.grouseman
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Originally posted by Fretters.
Not necessarily strict English, but even whey they do, some of them have such a broad accent that it still sounds like gibberish. Some places lilt their pronunciations to such a degree that it could well be another language.
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Fretters, I don't understand a 1/4 of what you are saying.---I can't your imagine your vocab and accent times 3.---But I love to listen to all the descriptive adjectives that yaw can come up with.---IMO it's one of the most liveliest, intriguing, attention grabbing forms of communication on the planet.---It reflects the good sense of humor that yaw possess.
Not necessarily strict English, but even whey they do, some of them have such a broad accent that it still sounds like gibberish. Some places lilt their pronunciations to such a degree that it could well be another language.
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Fretters, I don't understand a 1/4 of what you are saying.---I can't your imagine your vocab and accent times 3.---But I love to listen to all the descriptive adjectives that yaw can come up with.---IMO it's one of the most liveliest, intriguing, attention grabbing forms of communication on the planet.---It reflects the good sense of humor that yaw possess.
Fretters
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Just for Outlaw', this video is a perfect example. Most of what these blokes are saying is proper English, just with a West Country accent with some of them. This is before you start throwing dialect into the mix too.
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dutchgray
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^ I had no problem understanding any of that.
Fretters
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va.grouseman
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I don't know why in the world that the U.S. needed the Navajo Code Talkers, they had the Allied Bloke Talkers at their disposal.
driftpin
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trijeff
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I dont think my eyes or hands are good enough, I can barely do the big onesWow that looks great! So straight! So crisp! Now do it with the small lettering
va.grouseman
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Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.
va.grouseman
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Driftpin, looks like there is a clip ring missing on the little Wilton.