Milwaukee made in China?

[Fcvapor05]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

FWIW Milwaukee still has a HQ\office in Brookfield, WI. Judging from the job openings they still do some design\engineering there.

The tools are designed/engineered/developed/tested in Wisconsin. Their engineering facilities are really impressive actually.

 

[dogdog]

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LOL some of these ppl are just COO trolling... doesn't matter where it is designed.... as soon as it is made in China, all hell broke loose in these kinda of threads.

Some would claim it's Made in the USA or nothing, while never realized to them that their Bosch is a German company LMFAO... but sure. I dunno man just dun no.... I just go and bury my head back into the sand....

 

[michelin]

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Not every Makita cordless tool is made in China, though the cheaper ones are.

If the o.p. doesn't want Chinese made (and I can understand why not) there are plenty of options. Bear in mind though, that you get what you pay for.

Going back to Makita again, I can get a perfectly servicable drill with battery and charger for less than £100, but it WILL be Chinese made. Alternatively, I can get a much better grade of tool, still Makita but British made, rated for all day professional use, but it's going to cost me £250.

A lot of mid range Bosch seem to be made in Malaysia, and they seem to be fine, or you can spend some cash and get something like a German made Festool!

Correct. Some Makita cordless tools are made in Japan. 3/8” impact gun and angle drill spring to mind.

 

[bob15]

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LOL some of these ppl are just COO trolling... doesn't matter where it is designed.... as soon as it is made in China, all hell broke loose in these kinda of threads.

Some would claim it's Made in the USA or nothing, while never realized to them that their Bosch is a German company LMFAO... but sure. I dunno man just dun no.... I just go and bury my head back into the sand....

Being owned and being made are two different things.

American owned: the company might pay taxes into the country which helps the country (in a general sense....not going political). There might be a small or large employee presence in the US (corporate-type people, accounting, purchasing, quality people, maybe R&D support people, etc).

American made: made by workers in the USA, which means the workers making the product have a paying job......which means they have money to buy things, that also might be USA made that keep other Americans working (it is basically a big circle of support). And lets not forget all the support people that have jobs because of that manufacturing plant.....both inside that plant and outside it.

Between the two, manufacturing in the USA by and far helps the economy much more.

With regards to your example of Bosch: many people would rather support a company based in the "free" world, as opposed to a Communist country.

 

[Interceptor]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Since Metabo has been mentioned here already with some uncertainty, I will add what I know. Most/all of Metabo's higher-end stuff is still made in Germany. They do their design, casting, injection molding, machining, motors, and assembly of these tools in their own factories in Germany. Some specialized parts are imported; switches, electronics, bearings, cords. Their cheaper tools are made in PRC. The battery chargers are made in Vietnam. The batteries assembled in Czech Republic IIRC. I have several of their German-made tools and a few of the Chinese-made ones. There are some visual differences between the tools of different COO, but I can't honestly say that there is any perceivable difference in quality. If anything the injection molding "fit and finish" on the Chinese tools is nicer. The big difference to me is I'd rather not support the Chinese government/economy if possible, which is one of the reasons I chose Metabo over all others. Unfortunately they do not make the COO of all of their tools easy to find. Their top of the line 18v drill is $400, but it also has features that are not available from any other brand at any price.

 

[xin]

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Being owned and being made are two different things.

American owned: the company might pay taxes into the country which helps the country (in a general sense....not going political). There might be a small or large employee presence in the US (corporate-type people, accounting, purchasing, quality people, maybe R&D support people, etc).

American made: made by workers in the USA, which means the workers making the product have a paying job......which means they have money to buy things, that also might be USA made that keep other Americans working (it is basically a big circle of support). And lets not forget all the support people that have jobs because of that manufacturing plant.....both inside that plant and outside it.

Between the two, manufacturing in the USA by and far helps the economy much more.

With regards to your example of Bosch: many people would rather support a company based in the "free" world, as opposed to a Communist country.

HERE is the deal, people are brainwashed into thinking a LABEL (regardless of the fact it is nothing more than a cheap imitation) made in CHINA.

The only ones made in CHINA help (here it is folks is CHINA) and the shell USA company (with a board of directors)... Bonus points for actually finding the shell company here in the USA (suspecting they are in CHINA as well with names like Jim Bob)...

 

[visionguru]

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Just to let you all know how committed I am for buying only American made products....... I own not a single cordless, preferring to run a cord or grab my generator and a cord, and my older American made drill (I have several) and I'm dead serious! I'm that committed! Last cordless I had was a Bosch 9.6 that I bought new back in the 1980s.

Are you still using a IBM PC 286?

 

[dogdog]

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Being owned and being made are two different things.

American owned: the company might pay taxes into the country which helps the country (in a general sense....not going political). There might be a small or large employee presence in the US (corporate-type people, accounting, purchasing, quality people, maybe R&D support people, etc).

American made: made by workers in the USA, which means the workers making the product have a paying job......which means they have money to buy things, that also might be USA made that keep other Americans working (it is basically a big circle of support). And lets not forget all the support people that have jobs because of that manufacturing plant.....both inside that plant and outside it.

Between the two, manufacturing in the USA by and far helps the economy much more.

With regards to your example of Bosch: many people would rather support a company based in the "free" world, as opposed to a Communist country.

Sounds double standard to me.... I view tool as good or bad, tools as I can afford or not, tools as if it is needed for the job or not and definitely tools that I like or not from being burn by bad snobbish customer services like that ******* ChannelLock "George F.U." on some silly plastic lever on a ratchet.

I am not going to the whole thing on decline and fall of American manufacturing books, I don't have that capability or blame the Chinese / Mexican at one point in past even Canada back in the early 80s or 70s I think....in moving jobs there. and...I don't go baseless COO trolling /slandering just because. It is fine for a big circle of support, but something really needs to get down to reality. I am definitely not going into this...Personally, I don't like Milwaukee because of bad experience with their products back in the 90s and definitely, don't expect me to buy Channellock for a while.

 

[zendriver]

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With regards to your example of Bosch: many people would rather support a company based in the "free" world, as opposed to a Communist country.

Well, it's not like the Chinese are not putting that money to good use, including building factories here, just not necessarily one's building tools.

China, which owned an estimated $1.268 trillion in U.S. Treasuries, is the number-one investor among foreign governments, according to the June 2014 figures released by the U.S. Treasury. This amounts to over 21% of the U.S. debt held overseas and about 7.2% of the United States’ total debt load.

https://www.thebalance.com/how-much-u-s-debt-does-china-own-417016

Chinese investments in U.S. businesses, all but nonexistent 15 years ago, now total nearly $50 billion and could reach $200 billion by the end of the decade, according to a new study tracking the accelerating trend

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chinese-us-investment-20150520-story.html

 

[Musicinabottle]

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Are you still using a IBM PC 286?

No, Dell, bought used. Money stayed here in THIS country! There is no doubt that a person will buy something made in China by an American corporation, but I actually go out of my way to support American jobs. Do you?

It's a matter of morals.

 

[Ign]

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No, Dell, bought used. Money stayed here in THIS country! There is no doubt that a person will buy something made in China by an American corporation, but I actually go out of my way to support American jobs. Do you?

It's a matter of morals.

Classic GJ! Now we just need some politics and religion to round it out!

 

[xin]

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Very simple - that product is made in CHINA - owned by CHINA and 100% Chinese.

Just because they use the name does not make a sand hill bit of difference.

 

[dogdog]

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Very simple - that product is made in CHINA - owned by CHINA and 100% Chinese.

Just because they use the name does not make a sand hill bit of difference.

I think you got that ownership of TTI confused... it's majority share owned by a German family... I think the son runs the business now.

 

[Musicinabottle]

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Classic GJ! Now we just need some politics and religion to round it out!

Would the word "principles" be better then?

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

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With regards to your example of Bosch: many people would rather support a company based in the "free" world, as opposed to a Communist country.

Which category is Bosh in?

In 2016, Bosch China operated 62 legal entities and 22 technical centers, and recorded sales of 91.5 billion yuan. As of December 31, 2016, the Bosch Group employed some 59,000 associates in China, the largest Bosch workforce outside Germany. China is also Bosch's second largest market worldwide.

 

[928'er]

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does not make a sand hill bit of difference.

That's "sam hill." Get your euphemisms straight.

 

[Musicinabottle]

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That's "sam hill." Get your euphemisms straight.

Sand hill makes more sense!

 

[M6erfan]

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TTI is a Hong Kong based company founded by a German, Horst Julius Pudwill who, originally, went to Hong Kong as a rep for Volkswagen. While based in Hong Kong, the TTI factories are in mainland China.

TTI owns and manufactures the following brands:

Milwaukee
Ryobi
AEG
Homelite
Empire
Stiletto
Hart
Hoover
Oreck
VAX
Dirt Devil

They also manufacture Ridgid tools under license for Emerson.
They also make the Craftsman C3 line (which are, mainly, rebranded Ryobi tools) for Sears

Oreck??? Say it isn't so!

 

[xin]

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That's "sam hill." Get your euphemisms straight.

hahahah

 

[Fialaja]

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If made in USA tools are what you want, go to eBay there are plenty there for great prices. You might have to go to a parts site like e replacement parts and pick up replacement bearings, brushes, and other such things...but you would have the quality (real or perceived idk) at about the same price.

 

[Marlin]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Very simple - that product is made in CHINA - owned by CHINA and 100% Chinese.

Just because they use the name does not make a sand hill bit of difference.

Not exactly. There are plenty of factories in China that are owned by US companies or companies from other parts of the world. There are also 1000's of people employed in those other countries that create the designs.

 

[6PTsocket]

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Oreck??? Say it isn't so!

And Dirt Devil too. Old Horst seems to like vacuum cleaners.

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[xin]

Re: Milwaukee make in China?

Not exactly. There are plenty of factories in China that are owned by US companies or companies from other parts of the world. There are also 1000's of people employed in those other countries that create the designs.

I think the moral of the story (money flies away to other countries). Meanwhile ours implodes.

 

[zendriver]

Milwaukee make in China?

I think the moral of the story (money flies away to other countries). Meanwhile ours implodes.

Is it really?

China has purchase over $1.2 trillion in US government securities and has spent billions investing in US companies.

Perhaps you could define "imploding", since our GDP was almost $19 trillion last year, even if very little that was made by manufacturing cordless drills.


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[PelicanPines]

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I have zero issues with the quality of Milwaukee tools made in China.

Doubt the quality would be better if made here... they would be forced to use inferior materials to keep the ridiculous cost down.

 

[Musicinabottle]

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I think for a lot of people, like me, it has nothing to do with quality. This is a theme I keep reading. Even John Deere has certain things made in China, and John Deere is huge on quality. For me and others, whom work in this country, it's about protecting jobs here where we live. Everything made in China, robs from potential work here. People loose their jobs that paid X, now they have to clamber for another job that possibly and more than likely pays less. Eventually, when you reduce someone's wages, or you have people who were working and then aren't, then they aren't out buying things, or buying as many things. To me, and this is going to go nowhere, because there are folks who don't give a **** about our country, but I absolutely F'n hate supporting a company or corporation that won't allow Americans to make a product, but wants to sell it to us. Then there's the tax issue, but I won't even go there. Bottom line is that any corporation or company that takes their football and goes home if they don't get their way, to me, and to others, are a form of economic terrorists. Someone famous once said, and it's true... "The best customer of American industry is a well paid worker. This is much more than just a slogan. I'm not so much trying to get you to buy American. I'm just stating why I only buy American and refuse to buy China. It's a matter of principle. That's all I have to say!

 

[finn]

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I think for a lot of people, like me, it has nothing to do with quality. This is a theme I keep reading. Even John Deere has certain things made in China, and John Deere is huge on quality. For me and others, whom work in this country, it's about protecting jobs here where we live. Everything made in China, robs from potential work here. People loose their jobs that paid X, now they have to clamber for another job that possibly and more than likely pays less. Eventually, when you reduce someone's wages, or you have people who were working and then aren't, then they aren't out buying things, or buying as many things. To me, and this is going to go nowhere, because there are folks who don't give a **** about our country, but I absolutely F'n hate supporting a company or corporation that won't allow Americans to make a product, but wants to sell it to us. Then there's the tax issue, but I won't even go there. Bottom line is that any corporation or company that takes their football and goes home if they don't get their way, to me, and to others, are a form of economic terrorists. Someone famous once said, and it's true... "The best customer of American industry is a well paid worker. This is much more than just a slogan. I'm not so much trying to get you to buy American. I'm just stating why I only buy American and refuse to buy China. It's a matter of principle. That's all I have to say!

But you can’t have low cost consumer goods and only consume domestically produced products.

 

[Musicinabottle]

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But you can’t have low cost consumer goods and only consume domestically produced products.

Opportunity costs. Isn't it a *****?

 

[zendriver]

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Opportunity costs. Isn't it a *****?

What's the opportunity?

And yes, it probably is a real ***** when one does not have money, to pay for something more expensive, just because It's made here.

If they pay more, their boss will increase their wages?

 

[xin]

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Moral of the story a sticker/name on a China made product. Nothing more/nothing less move along folks.

In the end you will be learning Chinese when come take the land.

 

[Musicinabottle]

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I'm not here to try to convince people. That would just be a waste of time. It gets really idiotic. I was just outlining my principles and why I shop the way I do. That was it. If you want to buy from the Taliban, because it saved you 60 cents, then more power to you. I really could care ******* less. More power to you! I really mean that.

 

[PelicanPines]

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I actually totally understand what ur saying Bottle... and agree... but I accept that choices have been made that will prevent what we want... no matter how hard we try to sway the pendulum... u simply can't fight gravity.

 

[Musicinabottle]

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I actually totally understand what ur saying Bottle... and agree... but I accept that choices have been made that will prevent what we want... no matter how hard we try to sway the pendulum... u simply can't fight gravity.

I absolutely agree with you as well. If people took a stand, things would change, but people love cheap. I get it.

 

[zendriver]

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It really doesn't matter anyway.

We can't "bring back manufacturing" in any useful way, because we don't have the labor market to support it.

Baby boomers are not going to do it, Millennials are not having children, rural people are addicted to heroin and we giving all immigrants, the ole' heave ho.

Maybe robots will do the work, while there is a $12/hr technician, to press the reset switch, for 50 of them.

Corporations will still profit, while everybody else pays more.

A helleva path to properity.

 

[dogdog]

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It really doesn't matter anyway.

We can't "bring back manufacturing" in any useful way, because we don't have the labor market to support it.

Baby boomers are not going to do it, Millennials are not having children, rural people are addicted to heroin and we giving all immigrants, the ole' heave ho.

Maybe robots will do the work, while there is a $12/hr technician, to press the reset switch, for 50 of them.

Corporations will still profit, while everybody else pays more.

A helleva path to properity.

Just bury your head in the sand and you won't see any problems. If there is a problem, it's everyone else's FAKE News. I see only my own tooth. Nope, never the real tooth.

 

[Ilikeike]

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It really doesn't matter anyway.

We can't "bring back manufacturing" in any useful way, because we don't have the labor market to support it.

Baby boomers are not going to do it, Millennials are not having children, rural people are addicted to heroin and we giving all ILLEGAL immigrants, the ole' heave ho.

Maybe robots will do the work, while there is a $12/hr technician, to press the reset switch, for 50 of them.

Corporations will still profit, while everybody else pays more.

A helleva path to properity.

Just wanted to fix that part for you.

 

[zendriver]

Milwaukee make in China?

Just bury your head in the sand and you won't see any problems. If there is a problem, it's everyone else's FAKE News. I see only my own tooth. Nope, never the real tooth.

Honda advertises on the radio, because they're hard up for factory workers.

No doubt candidates will be lining up, for the opportunity to spend 10 hours a day assembling cordless drills, competing against other cordless drill's made in China by every other manufacture on earth.

Things should work out awesome


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[Marlin]

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Moral of the story a sticker/name on a China made product. Nothing more/nothing less move along folks.

In the end you will be learning Chinese when come take the land.

Nope, the sky really is not falling.

 

[reader2580]

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I'm not here to try to convince people. That would just be a waste of time. It gets really idiotic. I was just outlining my principles and why I shop the way I do. That was it. If you want to buy from the Taliban, because it saved you 60 cents, then more power to you. I really could care ******* less. More power to you! I really mean that.

What exactly are we supposed to do when we can't find a product made in the USA other than a single hunk of junk? I need a new cooling rack for baking because mine is beyond salvaging. The only Made in the USA cooling rack I have been able to locate so far is a chromed one.

I try not to buy chrome for the kitchen because it usually rusts and the chrome eventually starts to flake. There is a reason you can't use chrome in a commercial kitchen. Vollrath might make a stainless cooling rack in the USA yet, but Vollrath stuff is pretty large as it is for commercial use.

 

[Musicinabottle]

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What exactly are we supposed to do when we can't find a product made in the USA other than a single hunk of junk? I need a new cooling rack for baking because mine is beyond salvaging. The only Made in the USA cooling rack I have been able to locate so far is a chromed one.

I try not to buy chrome for the kitchen because it usually rusts and the chrome eventually starts to flake. There is a reason you can't use chrome in a commercial kitchen. Vollrath might make a stainless cooling rack in the USA yet, but Vollrath stuff is pretty large as it is for commercial use.

It's not absolute. Even I concede that occasionally I have to lower my standards and buy something Chinese. Last Milwaukee tool I bought, a palm sander I had a year before I looked and realized it was F'ing Chinese made. I wound up buying and older Makita like I used to have back when, and gave the Chinese Milwaukee away. It happens. Bottom line is that I do try as much as I can to buy non Chinese.