32 'x 36' Garage, 10' Wall Build

[devildog1205]

Looks great. Local code up here also altered a number of my plans when I built mine. I wanted to build a loft but they capped my height at 4.5M or just under 15ft so that wasn't going to work. Then I figured I just make a low storage...again local bylaws wouldn't allow me to install any permanent form of access to attic area (no 2 storey detached buildings apparently). I also would have went a little bigger but didn't want to take too much from my back yard.



Keep the pictures coming

Mine- I hear ya. It was a little frustrating with the forced alterations but in the end, I’m saving a little money and will have better lighting with the new Truss design. So I’m trying to see it that way. [emoji6]

I would have went bigger as well, as I have much more backyard to work with. But the septic field lines prevented that. I didn’t want the foundation of the building anywhere near them. Honestly, now that I have the building frame complete. It looks much bigger than I anticipated. Of course, when I start filling it, I’m sure it will shrink. Lol.


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[billspit]

Re: 32 'x 36' Garage, 10' Walls, All Scissor Truss

Mark- The top level of the foundation wall is actually an “L” shape block that creates an allowance for a 5” slab. When poured, the slab will actually be bonded to the top level of the block walls all the way around. This provides the treated bottom plate of the framing a more stable foundation as well. Or at least that’s what the research indicates. This is my first experience with it as well.


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There was a home contractor building slab homes that way in SC back in the late 70s. I have not seen it for a while till now.

 

[devildog1205]

Christmas Eve Update:

Framed in and installed Attic Stairs. Ran one length of 23/32 OSB (4' Wide) decking in the attic from one end of building to the other. Just wanted to have a walkway down the center. I used 2x2 and ran 3 strips down the top side of the trusses to sit the OSB on. It made the decking a little more sturdy to walk on and provides another 1.5" to blow in insulation and not cover the decking.

Also mounted all of the electrical boxes on the walls, including (2) exterior. I mounted 19 of the 20 boxes on the ceiling for the 4' surface mount LED lights. I used 1/2 inch thick pancake boxes and mounted them directly to the bottom of the truss. Although the led fixtures are direct wire and don't need a box, I used the pancake boxes so that everything will be flush once the 1/2 inch ceiling is installed (drywall or plywood), still undecided there.

ProLighting (Request a Layout) provided me a 4x5 layout for my building, totaling 20 dual lamp 4' fixtures. So for placement, I used a laser plumb to find correct locations on the bottom of trusses from the floor, ran in a temp screw on the truss, did the same at the other end of the building and ran a string between screws. The string gave me correct mounting locations on each truss in between. Went pretty fast that way and everything is in a straight line.

That's about it for now, onto enjoy the Holiday tomorrow and then back at it on Tuesday. Hope everyone enjoys the Holiday season!

 

[devildog1205]

Post Holiday update. Ill try and catch up on what was completed over the break. An yeah, its been very cold here so that wasn't fun.

Sod was delivered and laid in place. That turned out nice and covered all of the red dirt that grades away from the building. Will be nice to not have a mud pit back there and fresh Bermuda growing in the Spring.

Also started and just about completed the electric. Pulled all wire to include dedicated circuit and receptacle for my Air Compressor, dedicated 30 amp 2 pole circuit for the A/C disconnect, all wall receptacles, one ceiling receptacle for GD opener, high receptacle for TV, all interior/exterior fixture wiring and 3 additional fixtures in the attic that are on their own toggle switch near the bottom of the attic stairs. I also ran speaker wire to each corner of the building in the attic while the ceiling is open and put pull strings in for GD opener button and sensors. I tried to think of as much stuff as I possibly could which would be easier to do with open walls and ceiling. That's yet to be determined though. Pulled the main service cable through grey pvc conduit from house panel to Shop panel, made connections. Also pulled a Coax and a CAT-6 cable from house attic to Shop in a separate 1.5 inch conduit.

The new walkway was also finished over the break with new brick pavers and PermaSand. I really like how it turned out. I put in a drain at the end of the walkway near the Shop door and ran a drainage line out into the yard with a pop-up to help divert water away from the building when it runs down the walkway. I'll post some pics of the walkway tomorrow.

 

[devildog1205]

Insulation, Sheetrock and......Exterior Lights!

Insulation was rolled in the walls a few days ago. Plan is for R-13 in the walls and R-30 blown in the attic. I went around before the insulation went up and sealed up any holes I could find from running the wiring for exterior light fixtures, window/door frames and anything else I could find where daylight was visible.

A few days later, the Sheetrock was delivered. Pretty cool watching the guy unload 50 sheets (4'x12') with a remote control crane on the delivery truck. Huge time saver. We ended up using 48 of the 50 sheets, estimate was almost right on. Finishers are going to start tomorrow (weather permitting) if it can stay above freezing for 6 seconds. Its been very cold here lately, for North Alabama anyway.

And for a finale, since the building now technically has power, we went ahead and energized the exterior light fixtures to see how they illuminated the new driveway extension. Pretty pleased with the result and the look of the Barn Style Goose Neck LED lamps.

 

[Striker-7]

Those lights add a touch of elegance. Very nice build, sir!

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[Styx]

Wow that's a great looking building there and so fast...
where abouts are you that you can put down sod at Christmas time...

Cheers Randy

 

[devildog1205]

Wow that's a great looking building there and so fast...

where abouts are you that you can put down sod at Christmas time...



Cheers Randy

Northern Alabama. The sod is dormant. Local sod farm said it’s fine to lay now. Will come back in the Spring like the lawn. At least I hope so. Lol.


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[Whitey1]

Looks great!

 

[devildog1205]

Looks great!

Thanks Whitey!


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[cangusfarm]

The windows look really nice!


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[haptiq]

Man that was fast, mine is “finished” to about the same stage as yours but it took me a year and a half. I now realize Im missing shutters

 

[dcuthill]

Insulation, Sheetrock and......Exterior Lights!

Insulation was rolled in the walls a few days ago. Plan is for R-13 in the walls and R-30 blown in the attic. I went around before the insulation went up and sealed up any holes I could find from running the wiring for exterior light fixtures, window/door frames and anything else I could find where daylight was visible.

A few days later, the Sheetrock was delivered. Pretty cool watching the guy unload 50 sheets (4'x12') with a remote control crane on the delivery truck. Huge time saver. We ended up using 48 of the 50 sheets, estimate was almost right on. Finishers are going to start tomorrow (weather permitting) if it can stay above freezing for 6 seconds. Its been very cold here lately, for North Alabama anyway.

And for a finale, since the building now technically has power, we went ahead and energized the exterior light fixtures to see how they illuminated the new driveway extension. Pretty pleased with the result and the look of the Barn Style Goose Neck LED lamps.

How did you get those in just the right spot so the lights shine perfectly over them?

 

[devildog1205]

How did you get those in just the right spot so the lights shine perfectly over them?

Dcuthill- What do you mean? How did I install the exterior lights above the windows on the front of the building?


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[RSr]

Front Facade looks very nice with the shutters and lighting. Looking forward to seeing what fills it up

 

[devildog1205]

Front Facade looks very nice with the shutters and lighting. Looking forward to seeing what fills it up

RSr- I fear I may disappoint. I don’t have enough stuff to fill it up quite yet. But hoping to “grow” into it soon. [emoji1360]. Workbench and shelving are in line first if I can ever get the interior finished. Still have to finish drywall, paint, trim, mini split install and coat the floor.


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[Striker-7]

Dcuthill- What do you mean? How did I install the exterior lights above the windows on the front of the building?


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I think he means, how did you manage to place the fixtures, so the light pattern from them almost perfectly intersects the upper corners of the shutters.

As I said before, a touch of elegance...

 

[dcuthill]

I think he means, how did you manage to place the fixtures, so the light pattern from them almost perfectly intersects the upper corners of the shutters.

As I said before, a touch of elegance...

Exactly. Planned or just luck?

 

[devildog1205]

Exactly. Planned or just luck?

Planned to mount a light over each window. Luck that they illuminated the windows like they did. Lol! I just eye balled the height of each knowing that I wanted the bottom of the lamp shade to be above the top of the window.


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[Farrier]

Nice to see some stick built shops. Pole barns are over saturated on this site

 

[chevellegreg]

Second on the stick built shop, I thought I was the only one. I love the lights. The building looks great! Good idea on the outlet for a tv.

 

[devildog1205]

Second on the stick built shop, I thought I was the only one. I love the lights. The building looks great! Good idea on the outlet for a tv.

Thanks Chevelle! I appreciate that. I’m hoping one day when hopefully this building is complete, I can find an old Chevelle to put in there. Would love to have a red/black SS someday.


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[devildog1205]

Several Updates: Sheetrock, Trim, Paint, Electrical, GD Opener/Door Insulation and Mini Split install. I'll do this in a few different posts to split up the pics and descriptions.

Finally got the sheet rock finished, the weather played heck with the mud drying...but after a few days with a torpedo heater and way too much diesel fuel, it finally dried enough to sand. After the final sand, I went around and trimmed all the windows, doors, attic stairs and base board with 1x4 pine. Everything but the base board got routed with a 3/8 Roman Ogee bit. Then a coat of primer for all walls and ceiling, 2 coats of flat white for the ceiling, 2 coats of eggshell light grey for the walls and semi gloss white for the trim. A few days later, we came back and put up a "2 shades darker gray" color 36" up from the top of the baseboard. I also got my 4 speakers mounted in each corner of the building. Wires are pulled to an outlet underneath the TV receptacle so I can connect to an AV receiver soon.

 

[devildog1205]

Electrical and Garage Door Opener/Insulation Panels:

Two days ago, we finished all electrical by mounting all 20 ceiling fixtures and wall receptacles. The lights are very bright, but thankfully we put 10 fixtures on a wall switch and 10 on another. So it doesn't have to be Heart Surgery bright all the time. Then my son and I installed insulation panels on both OH garage doors. I used a product called InsulFoam from Lowe's. Worked really well and could tell an immediate difference in the temp indoors compared to outside (it got down in the single digits a few days). The kit came with 8 panels, each 54" long x 20.25" wide x 1.25" thick, with white vinyl facer on one side and cost $60. I got 3 kits and had one 54" panel leftover after insulating both my OH doors (12x8 and a 6x8). My son measured and I cut each panel fit. Then they just snapped into each door cavity, it was a very tight fit. We didn't use any glue or adhesive and their all holding fine. This evening, the GD opener got installed and is seriously one of my favorite installs thus far. This thing is super quiet compared to my house GD opener and has a ton of features. Its a Chamberlain B970 Belt Drive opener.

 

[devildog1205]

Attic Insulation and Mini Split Install:

Insulation was finally blown into the attic, I waited on this step so i could all my speaker wire run through the attic and stubbed down into the shop before fighting all the insulation. R30 was blown in at about 13 inch thick. They even insulated the back side of my attic stairs, so that's one thing less I have to do now...and I'm Ok with that. The following day my Mini Split got installed. Its a 2 ton, 21 SEER, Mr. Cool Oasis ES Series unit. Super impressed with this unit already. The outside compressor runs very quiet and it puts out good heat inside the building. I don't think I'm going to have a problem keeping it comfortable in there. It came packaged well and wasn't missing any parts to complete the install, including an outdoor pad for the unit to sit on. I had a local guy do the install so the refrigerant lines were properly braised and charged. And he came back back after I took the below pics and installed a line set cover on the outside of the shop to match the vinyl siding. Looks clean now.

That just about brings me up to date on the project. Up next is an epoxy floor. Have a lot of prep work to do to get it ready for the coating. So it continues.....

 

[stg454]

Very nice build. Great details!
In the planning process for my new garage!

 

[jgiles101982]

Re: 32 'x 36' Garage, 10' Walls, All Scissor Truss

can't wait to follow! What is pitch of your scissor truss you're going install? Can't wait to see some picture. I'm in design phase of mine it'll be 36'Wx28'Lx10'H with half scissor and half attic in room.

I can't wait to see both of yalls , I'm trying to get my mind made up on some things for a 24' x 60' w/10' walls & was doing attic trusses but that's sounds like a good idea doing half attic & half scissor

 

[devildog1205]

Very nice build. Great details!

In the planning process for my new garage!

Thanks STG. Plan away Bro. The more, the better. It’ll save time and money in the long run. Best of luck!


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[losdudes]

Very nice!

 

[jgiles101982]

Post Holiday update. Ill try and catch up on what was completed over the break. An yeah, its been very cold here so that wasn't fun.

Sod was delivered and laid in place. That turned out nice and covered all of the red dirt that grades away from the building. Will be nice to not have a mud pit back there and fresh Bermuda growing in the Spring.

Also started and just about completed the electric. Pulled all wire to include dedicated circuit and receptacle for my Air Compressor, dedicated 30 amp 2 pole circuit for the A/C disconnect, all wall receptacles, one ceiling receptacle for GD opener, high receptacle for TV, all interior/exterior fixture wiring and 3 additional fixtures in the attic that are on their own toggle switch near the bottom of the attic stairs. I also ran speaker wire to each corner of the building in the attic while the ceiling is open and put pull strings in for GD opener button and sensors. I tried to think of as much stuff as I possibly could which would be easier to do with open walls and ceiling. That's yet to be determined though. Pulled the main service cable through grey pvc conduit from house panel to Shop panel, made connections. Also pulled a Coax and a CAT-6 cable from house attic to Shop in a separate 1.5 inch conduit.

The new walkway was also finished over the break with new brick pavers and PermaSand. I really like how it turned out. I put in a drain at the end of the walkway near the Shop door and ran a drainage line out into the yard with a pop-up to help divert water away from the building when it runs down the walkway. I'll post some pics of the walkway tomorrow.




Did you use anything under you sill plate?

 

[devildog1205]

Post Holiday update. Ill try and catch up on what was completed over the break. An yeah, its been very cold here so that wasn't fun.



Sod was delivered and laid in place. That turned out nice and covered all of the red dirt that grades away from the building. Will be nice to not have a mud pit back there and fresh Bermuda growing in the Spring.



Also started and just about completed the electric. Pulled all wire to include dedicated circuit and receptacle for my Air Compressor, dedicated 30 amp 2 pole circuit for the A/C disconnect, all wall receptacles, one ceiling receptacle for GD opener, high receptacle for TV, all interior/exterior fixture wiring and 3 additional fixtures in the attic that are on their own toggle switch near the bottom of the attic stairs. I also ran speaker wire to each corner of the building in the attic while the ceiling is open and put pull strings in for GD opener button and sensors. I tried to think of as much stuff as I possibly could which would be easier to do with open walls and ceiling. That's yet to be determined though. Pulled the main service cable through grey pvc conduit from house panel to Shop panel, made connections. Also pulled a Coax and a CAT-6 cable from house attic to Shop in a separate 1.5 inch conduit.



The new walkway was also finished over the break with new brick pavers and PermaSand. I really like how it turned out. I put in a drain at the end of the walkway near the Shop door and ran a drainage line out into the yard with a pop-up to help divert water away from the building when it runs down the walkway. I'll post some pics of the walkway tomorrow.









Did you use anything under you sill plate?

No. The treated sill sits right on the concrete slab. Vapor barrier below the slab.


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[850xpeps]

No. The treated sill sits right on the concrete slab. Vapor barrier below the slab.


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Should have placed a sill plate gasket


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[devildog1205]

Should have placed a sill plate gasket


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Can you explain what you mean by gasket? I ran a bead of caulk along the inside of the sill, just to seal off from debris/water running up against the treated lumber. I thought your question was referring to there being another substrate layed under the sill itself.


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[850xpeps]

Can you explain what you mean by gasket? I ran a bead of caulk along the inside of the sill, just to seal off from debris/water running up against the treated lumber. I thought your question was referring to there being another substrate layed under the sill itself.


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Yes that’s what I’m referring too. You staple it to the underside of the bottom plate for a seal.
https://www.homehardware.ca//en/rec...l-Poly-Sill-Plate-Gasket/_/N-nthtw/R-I2611221

 

[devildog1205]

Yes that’s what I’m referring too. You staple it to the underside of the bottom plate for a seal.
https://www.homehardware.ca//en/rec...l-Poly-Sill-Plate-Gasket/_/N-nthtw/R-I2611221

Interesting. Thank you for sharing that. I just may have to ask my builder why that wasn’t used. I’ll also research the effects of not having one installed. Thanks again!


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[850xpeps]

Interesting. Thank you for sharing that. I just may have to ask my builder why that wasn’t used. I’ll also research the effects of not having one installed. Thanks again!


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By no means is it the end of the world that it isn’t there but it’s protection as the sealant used on the inside is sully acoustical and it doesn’t fair well with moisture and dirt. So the sill gasket is there to keep that out.

 

[devildog1205]

Update: Internet, Wi-Fi, A/V Rack and Tool Org

Found some time over this past week to make a few more updates inside the Shop. I got the internet up and running from the house. I have a CAT-6 cable that runs from the main router in the living room, through the attic, down the outside of the house, underground in conduit and up into the shop wall near the Breaker Panel (less than 250ft). From there I stubbed it out of the drywall and mounted a POE Network Switch on a blank of wood. The living room cable connects into the Switch and then another cat-6 from the switch to a ceiling mounted TP-Link AC1350 Wi-Fi Access Point. This gives me a strong signal in the Shop with the ability to reset (power off/on) from the floor instead of 10 feet high at the device. I didn't like the look of the Switch and Power Supply just mounted to a piece of plywood on the wall. So I built a cabinet cover of sorts with a hinged front lid to hide those components, yet still allow me to access them when needed. I used 3/4 inch plywood and painted white to match trim.

 

[devildog1205]

Built an A/V Rack out of 3/4 inch Melamine Board to hold my audio components and DirectTV receiver. I kept the hole thing off the floor, and used the kick board trim rail as a support to help hold the weight. Along with a few strips of 3/4 material used as cleats and 2.5 inch screws into 2 sets of studs. It came out very sturdy and holds the weight well. There's more space for shelves at the bottom, I just left it open for now until I have a need to add more. Mounted the ROKU TV above the rack, made the connections to the ONKYO Receiver and it was up and running. Music sounds great in the building from 4 corner speakers and a center channel. LOL.

 

[devildog1205]

And finally, I got some time to organize the new Husky Tool Chest. Its not moved in the shop yet (still have floor to do), but I was able to clean out my old tool box, and organize everything into the new. I was glad to get that done, as I've been waiting to do so since Black Friday last year when I picked it up on a good sale.











Hoping to start the floor soon!

 

[ncboat]

Excited to follow your build since mine has some similarities. I am in the middle of a 34x36 stick build here in N.C. It is really nice to see a similar size shop built. I see the maga shops and they are awesome but it isnt where I am. I really think for those of us in this size shop the sharng of experiences can be the most beneficial. Having removed a pool and tree removal I think what I experienced could prove helpful to others like us.
This us a picture of the gasket we used.


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