New 2-post lift fits 9-foot ceilings. PHOTOS

[Partsguy57]

This quote came to mind..



An engine hoist, some basic skills, a step ladder and your good to go. Might have to rent a hammer drill $40 / day + $7 / day for the correct size bit.

Lol. In my way of thinking if you can't even install a lift which is basic as can be, I'm not sure if one should be working under such item on a car that is vastly more complicated and will be going down the road at 70 mph..... just my opinion... Cheers

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[Falcon67]

An engine hoist, some basic skills, a step ladder and your good to go. Might have to rent a hammer drill $40 / day + $7 / day for the correct size bit.

IIRC I've got maybe $70 total in a HF hammer drill and a quality 3/4" bit from Lowes. The combo punched 12 holes in 4000+ PSI like nothing.

 

[cullen]

You guys realize that you would need to lift the hydraulic cylinder over 10' to install this lift right? This isnt a typical lift install. A ladder wont cut it.

 

[jwdominick]

 

[jwdominick]

is the GP-7lc available yet? pricing? I am ready to buy but haven't heard back at all from your customer service email.

 

[Tim126]

I'm in the same boat. Very interested and patiently waiting but I'm about to buy an atlas floor plate lift instead since they are actually available.

 

[jwdominick]

Well I got tired of waiting and not getting replies from bendpak. Both here and directly. So I bought elsewhere. Had installed yesterday, had a high lift kit added to the garage door today. And actually saved a good bit too.

 

[JSK]

Update on this new series.

All lifts claiming to be “ALI Certified" have to be re-tested to meet the latest ANSI/ALI ALCTV Standard that was officially released by ALI and ANSI last fall. The effective date to comply with the new standard is July, 2018. We currently have over 30 models of lifts undergoing testing including this new GP-7 series. The two shorter models (GP-7LC and GP-7LCS) will be released as ALI Certified models just as the current (taller) GP-7 model is.

What does ALI Certification mean to you as a lift buyer? Below is just a fraction of what is involved.

Static Load Test:
The lift is raised to an elevation that induces the greatest stress on the lift. The automatic safeties are then disengaged. A certified weight or payload that is 150% of the rated capacity of the lift is then placed on the lift with the arms positioned to produce the greatest stress on the lift and/or arms. The lift must sustain the load for five minutes with no measureable deformation of materials or visible signs of wear, fracture of materials, failure of welded components or other connections.

Locking Device Load Test:
The lift is loaded and tested using the same procedures described in the Static Load Test. The Static Load is then supported by the locking device. The locking device must sustain the load for five (5) minutes with no deformation of materials or visible signs of wear, no fracture of the mechanical locking device or the lift structure to which it is attached.

Automatic Arm Restraint Test:
The arm restraint is tested on the lift representing the longest arm available for the lift, and positioned within the normal range of arm deployment for lifting. The arm restraint is tested by applying a 150-pound load in the plane of the arm's axis of extension. The arm restraint must sustain the test load for five (5) minutes with no deformation of materials or visible signs of wear, no fracture of the arm restraint or the lift structure to which it is attached.

Fastening Device Strength Test:
Screws, pins, bolts, keys and other fastening devices located in the load path of the lift are subjected to tensile and/or shear loads of four times the maximum load applied to the fastening device with the lift loaded to maximum rated capacity. Fastening devices must not fracture or deform to the point of releasing the retained lift components.

Hydrostatic / Hose Strength Test:
Based on the maximum pressures measured during the Operation Test, the hydraulic system is tested as noted below and held for one (1) minute. Three times maximum operating pressure - Piping fittings, valve bodies, cylinders, pump housing. Four times maximum operating pressure - Rigid tubing, flexible tubing, hoses. There must be no rupture of tested components, excluding seals and gaskets.

Lowering Speed Test:
The average lowering speed of the lift loaded to maximum capacity is tested to not exceed twenty feet per minute (20 FPM) with or without a hydraulic line rupture or simulated break.

*The above testing procedures do not identify all requirements prescribed by ANSI/ALI-ALCTV.

I will update this thread as things develop but I suspect the (now delayed) release of the two shorter models (GP-7LC and GP-7LCS) will be May 2018.

 

[jwdominick]

Well as you continue to delay and not respond I am certain more sales will be lost. Communication is key and if it's this poor prior to the sale, I can only imagine what it's like after you have someones money

 

[JSK]

Sorry JW. I'm on the road a lot for work. Have been globetrotting last two weeks. When they are finally released the service for this new product line will be same as our latest new product.

Will do my best to keep this thread updated and then eventually reply to all of those who filled out the inquiry form announcing the special release along with special pricing.

 

[SgtHawkUSMC]

Well as you continue to delay and not respond I am certain more sales will be lost. Communication is key and if it's this poor prior to the sale, I can only imagine what it's like after you have someones money

Seriously? You're on a forum and know nothing of this man's life and what's going on. Pick up a phone and call the company if you're that worried about it. Besides, I thought you already bought yours?

 

[jwdominick]

Seriously? You're on a forum and know nothing of this man's life and what's going on. Pick up a phone and call the company if you're that worried about it. Besides, I thought you already bought yours?

Lol seriously you are on a forum and know nothing of the calls or emails i've already placed
Pot meet kettle

 

[jwdominick]

Sorry JW. I'm on the road a lot for work. Have been globetrotting last two weeks. When they are finally released the service for this new product line will be same as our latest new product.

Will do my best to keep this thread updated and then eventually reply to all of those who filled out the inquiry form announcing the special release along with special pricing.

Last I checked, internet access to a forum wasnt tied to a location. That excuse doesnt jive. Not sure how a professional, trying to rep a product online can beglect his on post for upwards of 30 days after numerous people have expressed interest. But again I bought another because your lack of communication.

 

[JSK]

Last I checked, internet access to a forum wasnt tied to a location. That excuse doesnt jive. Not sure how a professional, trying to rep a product online can beglect his on post for upwards of 30 days after numerous people have expressed interest. But again I bought another because your lack of communication.

Understood JW. Will be more diligent. Sorry it didn't work out. If in the future, for whatever reason, you would like to exchange your recent lift purchase to one of our upcoming GP-7LC OR LCS models, I will be happy to make it work for you. Again, sorry.

 

[brownbagg]

Well I got tired of waiting and not getting replies from bendpak. Both here and directly. So I bought elsewhere. Had installed yesterday, had a high lift kit added to the garage door today. And actually saved a good bit too.

i got the same lift but couple years older

 

[brownbagg]

Update on this new series.

All lifts claiming to be “ALI Certified" have to be re-tested to meet the latest ANSI/ALI ALCTV Standard that was officially released by ALI and ANSI last fall. The effective date to comply with the new standard is July, 2018. We currently have over 30 models of lifts undergoing testing including this new GP-7 series. The two shorter models (GP-7LC and GP-7LCS) will be released as ALI Certified models just as the current (taller) GP-7 model is.

What does ALI Certification mean to you as a lift buyer? Below is just a fraction of what is involved.


Automatic Arm Restraint Test:
The arm restraint is tested on the lift representing the longest arm available for the lift, and positioned within the normal range of arm deployment for lifting. The arm restraint is tested by applying a 150-pound load in the plane of the arm's axis of extension. The arm restraint must sustain the test load for five (5) minutes with no deformation of materials or visible signs of wear, no fracture of the arm restraint or the lift structure to which it is attached.



Hydrostatic / Hose Strength Test:
Based on the maximum pressures measured during the Operation Test, the hydraulic system is tested as noted below and held for one (1) minute. Three times maximum operating pressure - Piping fittings, valve bodies, cylinders, pump housing. Four times maximum operating pressure - Rigid tubing, flexible tubing, hoses. There must be no rupture of tested components, excluding seals and gaskets.

my bendpak is ali certifided, my arm restraint have never work from day one.

Have blew every hose on the lift at least once, cylinder has leaked from first year, replace one, and second not to far behind, but then they dont sell a re seal set for them so complete cylinder replacement

you just got to love a bend pak

 

[lakeroadster]

my bendpak is ali certifided, my arm restraint have never work from day one.

Have blew every hose on the lift at least once, cylinder has leaked from first year, replace one, and second not to far behind, but then they dont sell a re seal set for them so complete cylinder replacement

you just got to love a bend pak

That *****...

The ALI certification tells you that the unit they had tested was compliant.

If the company has ****** quality control.... the ALI certification really doesn't mean much.

Sad.. but true.

 

[ole442]

Not sure what lift to buy when I find the money after reading all the lift threads. I'll just keep monitoring them.

 

[bjcouche]

First off, thank you JSK and Bendpak for creating a lift or those with lower ceilings. This product will no doubt allow people to install lifts that previously could not. I did a lot of research before buying my lift 3 years ago. I agree with everything that JSK has said thus far. As far as Country of origin, the prices for lifts in this weight class have been driven so low that all lifts in this weight / price range are built offshore. The best thing that you can do when buying a lift is to buy one from a reputable name brand like Bendpak that is ALI certified. That way at least you know it was designed safely and that someone is watching the quality coming out of the factory. Having the name brand also aids you in the future if you need parts or service. I've seen professional shops installing new Bendpak lifts, so if they're good enough for daily continuous use, they are good enough for us guys using them on the weekend. JSK is correct about added features and accessories. Too many people are price shopping between lifts solely on price and $50-$100 in the base price will too often make or break a sale.
I ended up purchasing a Mohawk over the Bendpak, however when I recommend a lift to someone a Bendpak us usually at the top of the list. The Bendpak is a much better value proposition, meaning the cost per features is better for home shop folks. I chose the Mohawk because I didn't want any floor bump between the posts and nothing overhead, no posts, cables etc. I had the SS hydraulic lines run under the concrete slab when it was poured. For that single feature I could have bought 2 Bendpak lifts instead.
OK, for those of you that have 9 foot ceilings, don't want to wait for the Bendpak to become available, and price is no object.... I just measured my 10,000lb system I and the tallest portion measures 9' 1". That portion is just the hydraulic relief valve, so if you could cut a 5" diameter hole in your ceiling, the rest of the lift is under 9'. But for most folks with low ceilings, just wait for the Bendpak to ship.

Brian

 

[JSK]

Thanks Brian. Mohawk is a great product. These GP-7 models will be another option for those not wanting the dreaded hump on the floor and/or those who are space (width) deprived. Also, with the added upper cross beam on the GP-7 models, concrete stresses are greatly reduced.

 

[JSK]

That *****...

The ALI certification tells you that the unit they had tested was compliant.

If the company has ****** quality control.... the ALI certification really doesn't mean much.

Sad.. but true.

Mr. Roadster,
Sorry if in some way BendPak has damaged you as it seems like all of your comments are disparaging. "****** quality control" is kind of offensive.

There are many reasons that could have caused all three of his two-post lift hoses to “blow”. Both cylinders leaking under 24 months would be covered under warranty. I have sent brownbag a PM asking for details. We will take good care of him as we do every one of our customers.

 

[JSK]

Most of the structural parts are ready. Production says we should be able to ship some of the shorter models by the end of March. As soon as confirmed, I will share with all.

 

[lakeroadster]

Mr. Roadster,
Sorry if in some way BendPak has damaged you as it seems like all of your comments are disparaging. "****** quality control" is kind of offensive.

There are many reasons that could have caused all three of his two-post lift hoses to “blow”. Both cylinders leaking under 24 months would be covered under warranty. I have sent brownbag a PM asking for details. We will take good care of him as we do every one of our customers.

I have zero experience with BendPak.

All I know is BendPak's quality issues are well documented on this website.

 

[madbim]

These are interesting. I've been a on a fence for a while, having 11ft ceilings and wanting to maximize my space. It feels like you skipped us 11' guys...

GP-7LCS - 8' 10"
GP-7LC- 9' 10"

GP-7 12' 6"

 

[RWorth]

Personal opinion, I've been a mechanic most of my 65 year life. Worked on my back under cars on the dirt, shoveling out a trench deep enough to wiggle under, worked on ramps and jack stands, and any other method to get under a car you could think of. I live in the North East, so we do have winter, however if I did not have a garage tall enough to put a full height lift in, I would pour a slab outside and install one there. There is not much difference in price between a short and a tall lift. Most home jobs do not have to be done today, so you can do them on a good day. Standing outside in my opinion is much better than rolling around on a stool inside. And if you are afraid of the outdoors, you can buy a real good quality tent for pretty cheap money. I put one up last year to roll all my large tools into to get them out of my shop. If I needed to I would put a lift in one.

 

[steve88]

These are interesting. I've been a on a fence for a while, having 11ft ceilings and wanting to maximize my space. It feels like you skipped us 11' guys...

GP-7LCS - 8' 10"
GP-7LC- 9' 10"

GP-7 12' 6"

Yep, I was just thinking this the other day.

@JSK -- any plans to offer a 10.5 ft or 11 ft model in the coming years?
It looks like the 9'10" model is just a few inches short of me being able to stand upright under my car (I'm 5'11"). I guess one potential work around would be riser pads, but then I would have to jack the car onto those....

 

[tdott]

Standing outside in my opinion is much better than rolling around on a stool inside.

As someone with a mid-raise lift in my garage, I beg to differ.
I've done 10+ rod bearing jobs on my lift using a rolling stool. I think i'm actually faster on a stool than on my feet, rolling around getting tools etc, having tools right below me in my cart works pretty well for me.

Yes a full raise would have been great, but rolling around on a stool is easier on your feet and great for casual wrenching. I also wouldn't give up working on my car 1/2 the year during winter months because my lift is outside, which is when most do projects.

Also some don't have the option to put a lift outside, it would look hideous on someones driveway and against most hoa, so that is only an option for those that have a lot of land in their backyard to do that, so IMO i'd prefer a mid-raise lift, I can use year round vs an outside full raise I can't only use in good weather.

 

[swharris]

What is the Country of Origin for the welded components of this lift?

I honestly LOL'd at this.

 

[madbim]

Yep, I was just thinking this the other day.

@JSK -- any plans to offer a 10.5 ft or 11 ft model in the coming years?
It looks like the 9'10" model is just a few inches short of me being able to stand upright under my car (I'm 5'11"). I guess one potential work around would be riser pads, but then I would have to jack the car onto those....

Can we hack-off 12" on the GP-7 ?

 

[JSK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve88 View Post
Yep, I was just thinking this the other day.

@JSK -- any plans to offer a 10.5 ft or 11 ft model in the coming years?
It looks like the 9'10" model is just a few inches short of me being able to stand upright under my car (I'm 5'11"). I guess one potential work around would be riser pads, but then I would have to jack the car onto those....
Can we hack-off 12" on the GP-7 ?


LOL. I swear, if we made cars, people would want them to float and fly. So hard to find one product that works for everyone’s needs. Let me see if feasible. Shoot me a PM so we can communicate.

 

[firebirdparts]

You guys want to add or subtract 2 or 3 inches from this? Good grief. Step away from the computer, install a XPR-9S and start living the good life.

 

[dangdude]

Very interested in the 7LCS (9'). How heavy exactly is that top piece, or if it comes apart, how heavy is the heaviest thing that must be hoisted?
What are the mechanical lock position heights? (I want a couple that are lower than what i hear in the youtube video)
Since we're talking about skinny rails being a great feature (and it is), can the pump / reservoir assembly be mounted on the side of the post (it's on what I would call the "back" of the post in the pics) or maybe remotely, e.g. on a wall?

 

[pbon]

I don’t like that lift. The top piece is massive and takes awayfromusesbleceiling height, which is dumb for a lift designed for low ceilings. Plus it is expensive.

I just sold my Atlas BP8000 after 5 years. Floor plate. 9’0” columns. Would lift my 99M3 and 08M3 and 08 535 high enough in my 10’6” ceiling barn that I could walk under the cars and I am 6’2”. Sold it only because we moved and I will have to use a 4 post in my new barn.

 

[JSK]

Very interested in the 7LCS (9'). How heavy exactly is that top piece, or if it comes apart, how heavy is the heaviest thing that must be hoisted?
What are the mechanical lock position heights? (I want a couple that are lower than what i hear in the youtube video)
Since we're talking about skinny rails being a great feature (and it is), can the pump / reservoir assembly be mounted on the side of the post (it's on what I would call the "back" of the post in the pics) or maybe remotely, e.g. on a wall?

The power unit can be located on either column - but must be on the side of the safety release handle. Locate the columns accordingly - left or right. I'm sure with little fabrication you can make a simple bracket and mount the power unit on the fore or aft side of the column if needed, or even on an adjacent wall, as long as the operator could still reach the safety release handle. Bolts or fasteners cannot protrude through the the fore and aft sides of the columns however because that is where the slide blocks glide.

 

[lakeroadster]

What is the Country of Origin for the welded components of this lift?

I honestly LOL'd at this.

That moves the discussion forward...

Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing.

Exactly, Ben. Well said

 

[pelletman]

As someone who has worked under, over, and around a hoist all his life, I'll give my 2 cents.

Yes, I suppose the smurf hoist would be fine for someone that thinks he has to change his own oil and only has to be under the vehicle for a few minutes at a time. It would be great for tire work and brakes. Or body work.
But doing anything major underneath? Forget it. Crouching down like that for long periods of time is no fun at all. And no, sitting on a stool underneath is not a viable option. Very cumbersome, and unsteady.

I disagree, with the stool comment anyway. My dad has a hunter alignment lift with rolling jacks in his garage with a 10' ceiling. We use rolling chairs and I think it is great. I am 52 and can't imagine doing stuff on my back anymore.

 

[dangdude]

I found the install manual!! (not on bendpak.com) which says the safety catch info--there are 11 stops, 4 inches apart in the Q&A section. That's awesome but not sure what model that's on--it should vary as max lifts are different, and I'm hoping for low positions as well as high.
https://www.bestbuyautoequipment.co...ctionManuals/GrandPrix-GP-7-Series-Manual.pdf

 

[dangdude]

Again, you can't build a lift for everyone, but 4.5" min pad height is terrible. I thought it was 3.5" min pad height. Must have been some other lift.

 

[lonewolf04]

The MaxJax is an awesome product and it answers the needs for those looking for a mobile-temporary lifting solution and are too "short-ceiling" constrained.

Our GP models are...(how can I say it without disparaging MaxJax)...more. When the two shorter GP models are ready to ship, I may return to this group buy thread and sweeten the pot a little. What better way to show why it is a superior offering than to have you guys share your stories.

Just followed the original link for purchase info. Any update on any price break for Garage Journal members for the 7LC?

New garage just had the floor poured yesterday. Hoping to have the exterior structure complete by July 4th. Wanting to order the 7LC for my 10' ceiling height.

Before anyone asks, I opted to do 10' ceilings with attic trusses for storage space. Limited to 14' building height measured halfway up the roof line in my township.

 

[CleanSC]

In for GB updates. My Maxx Jaxx is on it's last legs and after a few scares I'm done with it.

Is the LCS on a group buy anywhere? The link earlier in the thread just points to a general info page.

I'm between this and the BP8000. I like the auto stop on this one which is critical for lower garages but the cylinder in the cross beam makes it pretty large, cutting into lifting height.

I may just fabricate an autostop for the BP8000. Can't be that hard.

Plus with a Greg Smith local to me the cash and carry deals are always pretty aggressive.

So where do we sign up for a GB on the LCS? Is there one currently running or planned?