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Bob it isn’t hot in Florida. Cool water, soft breeze, bikinis.......

Thats ^^^ exactly how the travel agent sold it to me, I'll loosen my tie but the jumper stays on. For emergencies we have some factor 72654367.

The tea sounds fine Bob, what we call builders tea, if you can't stand the spoon up in it , it's too weak. ;)

Regards :beer:
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Bob it isn’t hot in Florida. Cool water, soft breeze, bikinis.......


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Stewart, it's a relative thing. We serve beer cold (around 37*F) and the pubs in Great Britain serve most beer a bit warmer (50-57*F). They call the ocean warm when it reaches 68*F and happily go swimming in it. I don't put my foot in the ocean off Florida until the two-digit temperature starts with an 8. I also haven't worn a bikini in a long time and I'd bet a lot of people would pay me not to wear one ever again. :scared:
 
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Thats ^^^ exactly how the travel agent sold it to me, I'll loosen my tie but the jumper stays on. For emergencies we have some factor 72654367.

The tea sounds fine Bob, what we call builders tea, if you can't stand the spoon up in it , it's too weak. ;)

Regards :beer:
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Steve, Florida in July is a great time to visit. Very few tourists so traffic is bearable, restaurants and hotels have great specials and the beaches are not crowded.

Working for IBM in Florida I wore a 3-piece suit to work every day, winter and summer. Once your blood thins, the heat is quite bearable.

I have lost a couple of spoons to that tea. :beer:
 

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If you are coming to Florida in July, do you have a fire suit? Our summer sun isn't as strong as it is down under but I have seen several Brits burst into flames upon leaving our airport terminal.

Bob

That whole post was great, but that last bit had me laughing out loud - And I'm at work, luckily the others that I share the office space with are all out today - but I think I did frighten the receptionist!

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Yep - still here!
 

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With the recent frigid temperatures (it was in the 40s [F]) I was afraid the garage would get cold (below 70 [F]). My hillbilly jeans (genes?) decided the hole in the ceiling needed a patch. My valleybilly jeans suggested I buy a sheet of 5/8" fire rated drywall. Turns out hillbilly saw a piece of cardboard in the recycling bin.
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I think your Hillbilly and mine are cut from the same jeans :D
 

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Bob said, If you are coming to Florida in July, do you have a fire suit? Our summer sun isn't as strong as it is down under but I have seen several Brits burst into flames upon leaving our airport terminal.

Well, I for one like to be in the Georgia Annex called North Florida. Last time I was in Boca it was so hot that walking on the hotel asphalt was like walking on a foam mattress. I could not enjoy the bikinis because the bright light and heat gave me instant cataracts. I did not know that watermelons could explode but apparently they can and it is pretty spectacular.

Time to lay in water from Costco, go inside, draw the curtains and wait until fall comes.
 
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...and only 2 weeks of Florida winter left! :lol_hitti
Guster, we can never be sure winter has either begun or ended. I'd say winter was over a couple of weeks ago when this came into bloom:
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Then again, this maple tree lost its leaves at the same time:
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This is what the Hong Kong Orchid looked like on October 3, 2017, 21 days after Irma blew through here:
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I'm pretty sure we had winter but the tree hasn't stopped growing. This is it today, 132 days later (and yes, it's blooming):
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That whole post was great, but that last bit had me laughing out loud - And I'm at work, luckily the others that I share the office space with are all out today - but I think I did frighten the receptionist!

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Lyndon, great to hear from you! I'm pleased you didn't spray your beverage.
 
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Bob said, If you are coming to Florida in July, do you have a fire suit? Our summer sun isn't as strong as it is down under but I have seen several Brits burst into flames upon leaving our airport terminal.

Well, I for one like to be in the Georgia Annex called North Florida. Last time I was in Boca it was so hot that walking on the hotel asphalt was like walking on a foam mattress. I could not enjoy the bikinis because the bright light and heat gave me instant cataracts. I did not know that watermelons could explode but apparently they can and it is pretty spectacular.

Time to lay in water from Costco, go inside, draw the curtains and wait until fall comes.
Jim, it's odd that driving 440 miles north gets me to The South. Our only salvation down here is the ocean breeze. I've spent some time in the Orlando area and it has Boca beat in the tar pits competition. Our house is on a ridge 1.5 miles from the ocean so life in a shady spot is bearable.
 

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Jim, it's odd that driving 440 miles north gets me to The South. Our only salvation down here is the ocean breeze. I've spent some time in the Orlando area and it has Boca beat in the tar pits competition. Our house is on a ridge 1.5 miles from the ocean so life in a shady spot is bearable.

Bob trust me The South on the coast is unbearable in the heat as the humidity brings the temp up by about 20 degrees, the flying teeth at sea level add another 10 degrees as your blood starts to boil swatting at them and as for bikinis if I am lucky enough to see someone who should be wearing one go by it would only serve to raise it again and generate more heat.
 
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Bob trust me The South on the coast is unbearable in the heat as the humidity brings the temp up by about 20 degrees, the flying teeth at sea level add another 10 degrees as your blood starts to boil swatting at them and as for bikinis if I am lucky enough to see someone who should be wearing one go by it would only serve to raise it again and generate more heat.
Bobby, the trees in the back yard cool the area quite a bit. When the ficus tree is full of leaves, the area below is about 15-degrees cooler than it is in the shade of the patio. It seams to make my sweat-soaked shirt and jeans more comfortable.

Since the months in the Yukon and Alaska in my youth, I am no longer bothered by mosquitoes. The monsters up there must leave a funny taste behind that their tiny southern relatives don't like. In my drinking days my wife claimed it was the amount of Scotch I sweated that kept them away but 15 years without a drop of alcohol supports my Alasquito theory.

It's sad but as as I age my blood doesn't heat up at the sight of a bikini-clad girl. Even 30-year-olds make me feel like a child molester just for looking.
 

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Bob: great to hear you have a method of doing sheet rock work above your head. the first time i had to do some ceiling work i was helping a friend and working with 12 footers. the first time i set one of those heavy pieces on my head i had a baseball hat on and i think i still have the dent in my head from that button on top. I can't even imagine doing it with only one arm. you are amazing and keep up the great work and attitude.

good luck and always fun stopping in here to see what you are up to. I saw you were maybe looking for 3 drawers and maybe some tools so i'll wish you the best in finding all of them while i'm Organizing my own STUFF.

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Marjory Stoneman Douglas was a writer and activist in Florida who was honored for her efforts to save the Everglades and died at the age of 108. Sadly, she will now be remembered for the shooting at the high school bearing her name (16 miles from our house). A 19-year-old former student entered the school, opened fire with an AR-15 and ended the lives of at least 17 students and adults in and around the school. He escaped by blending in with the fleeing students but was taken into custody soon after.

Too soon to talk about anything and I'm sick of praying.
 
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I want a track saw but I don't want to spend thousands or even hundreds of dollars for a tool I rarely use. I also want a router guide that will allow me to reliably cut dados and rabbets.

I have a Skillsaw Classic (Model 5275:05) 7-1/4-inch circular saw and a couple of straight edges but I never get great results with that combination. I also have that Craftsman router with a unique mounting hole spacing.

I kept hoping a used DeWalt, Makita or Festool setup would magically appear but no such luck. Then Google showed me a really really cheap track saw setup that works with a router, jig saw or circular saw. I like the idea of the router on a track because it tends to wander even more than my circular saw.

I found a Bora track setup that kinda meets my needs but it has a pretty low price and we all know low price means terrible quality. I started out buying a 50-inch section of track, the saw guide and router guide for $112. The track isn't long enough to cut an 8-foot panel but the first job I need it for only requires a 48-inch cut. Here's the track, with a built-in clamp.
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The saw guide is mostly plastic with threaded metal inserts for the mounting hardware.
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I wanted to increase my chances of success so I bought a new Freud Diablo 60-tooth carbide blade. This blade cuts plywood cleaner than any blade I have ever owned.
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The router guide is also mostly plastic. It has an interesting feature that helps you to cut dados to the exact width of the board going into it. You put the board you plan to go into the dado in the slot next to the Bora logo after loosening the two knobs. You set the pointer to the size router bit you are using (1/4, 3/8 or 1/2) and tighten the clamps. Make the first dado pass and loosen the two knobs. Slide the guide to the appropriate stop (1/4, 3/8 or 1/2) and make a second pass. According to the instructions you will have a perfect width dado. Since plywood is sold in millimeter thicknesses and most router bits are not, this is a great solution. I understand you can buy bits that are the right size but now I don't have to.
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This router guide requires that brass Porter Cable style bushing to be mounted on the router plate and none of my plates have that size hole. I bought a "universal" router plate that I hope will work. It comes with a centering bit so hopefully I can set it up to work properly.
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Bob, sorry to hear. That's too close for comfort.

As for your track system, please let us know how it works for you. My normal MO is to cut by sight and deal with the edge issues. But the track seems like a much more precise way to go. Especially if one is looking for professional results.
 

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I have been hearing all about the shooting. A very sad state of affairs. I'll leave it at that.
My "track" consists of a straight piece of wood screwed onto a similar length of thin ply, about 5 ft. Run the circular saw up against the first piece and you have a perfect edge to lay against your cut line. I will post a picture next time I am in the shop. I do like that system for routing though and might have to invest.

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That track jig looks very handy.

I have a similar saw guide to the 'track' component in your photo that gives me a guide for the 4' side of sheet stock. It has a similar toggle clamp at least. Also have problems cutting the 8' side of sheets as I don't always have something just over 8' long to use as a guide either... or worse, 8' long but not straight.

The only problem with the toggle clamp on mine is that it vibrates loose sometimes. But then so do quick clamps/bar clamps. Nothing like a good g-clamp to inspire confidence.

This gives me an idea to see if I can make a saw guide for mine.
 

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I have been hearing all about the shooting. A very sad state of affairs. I'll leave it at that.
My "track" consists of a straight piece of wood screwed onto a similar length of thin ply, about 5 ft. Run the circular saw up against the first piece and you have a perfect edge to lay against your cut line. I will post a picture next time I am in the shop. I do like that system for routing though and might have to invest.

I have used a batten when sawing straight was a requirement and it works pretty well. Seems the motion of the saw makes it more jumpy vertically. As for the router, well, my router wants to go everywhere. I agree with your thinking. A track might tame it quite a bit.
 
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Bob, sorry to hear. That's too close for comfort.

As for your track system, please let us know how it works for you. My normal MO is to cut by sight and deal with the edge issues. But the track seems like a much more precise way to go. Especially if one is looking for professional results.
Jim, I read a bunch of reviews on this track system and a equal number commented that it was garbage and great. Most of the garbage comments were about the plastic saw base and difficulty setting it up. I had no trouble setting it up but I agree the base is made of plastic. Anyone who expects a competitor for a real track saw will be disappointed. It isn't machinist-level precision but I made a test cut first and I'm impressed with the results. The blade was part of the reason but there wasn't a single burn mark, back-cut mark or any of the defects my cuts with just a guide showed.
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I have been hearing all about the shooting. A very sad state of affairs. I'll leave it at that.
My "track" consists of a straight piece of wood screwed onto a similar length of thin ply, about 5 ft. Run the circular saw up against the first piece and you have a perfect edge to lay against your cut line. I will post a picture next time I am in the shop. I do like that system for routing though and might have to invest.

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Andrew, I try to cut sheet goods that way but holding the interlock button, squeezing the trigger and trying to keep even pressure on the front and rear of the saw base seems to elude me. I always end up with a couple of spots that stray from the line or burns from the blade being cocked in the cut. This track system isn't for everyone but it is helping me.
Bob, I have been looking for an affordable solution to a track saw as well, like Craptain I do the same..

Regards
Steve, I probably won't use this system often but I have a specific project it may be perfect for. I have a stack in the garage with an ice maker on the bottom and audio/video equipment above. I'd like to make a cabinet to protect it from the dust I will eventually create when I get back to the '72 Corvette (kinda like your A). I have the oak-faced plywood but I want to cut dados for the main shelf, miter the top joints and put it all together with biscuits.
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That track jig looks very handy.

I have a similar saw guide to the 'track' component in your photo that gives me a guide for the 4' side of sheet stock. It has a similar toggle clamp at least. Also have problems cutting the 8' side of sheets as I don't always have something just over 8' long to use as a guide either... or worse, 8' long but not straight.

The only problem with the toggle clamp on mine is that it vibrates loose sometimes. But then so do quick clamps/bar clamps. Nothing like a good g-clamp to inspire confidence.

This gives me an idea to see if I can make a saw guide for mine.
Guster, I have a two-piece aluminum guide that makes a 97-inch (8-foot 1-inch) guide that is perfect for cutting drywall. Because I'm using a simple box cutter it's easy to make the cuts. It's the power tools that try to get away from me that cause the problem. I also have a 59-inch (4-foot 11-inch) clamp-on guide like you describe. Handy for the 4-foot stuff.
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I have used a batten when sawing straight was a requirement and it works pretty well. Seems the motion of the saw makes it more jumpy vertically. As for the router, well, my router wants to go everywhere. I agree with your thinking. A track might tame it quite a bit.
Jim, I'm not ready for the stereo cabinet project yet but I may run a few tests just for fun. I have to get back to that bumper cover project on the PT Cruiser. Oh, and a little suspension and radio antenna work as well.
 

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Bob: don't feel like the lone ranger about wanting a nice track saw cause i've been doing research for a long time thinking about it. once I start my fence and deck project i might have to bite the bullet. for now my 12 inch Dewalt compound miter, Makita 10 inch chop and my skill and jig saws butcher up the wood good enough for me.

if you'd like to see another member's comments on one that i respect Denwood (Woody) bought one a year or so ago and HE LOVES HIS and i think he bought a Makita. check out his thread and he just finished a media room in his basement and took the saws down there with his little shop vac with dust system attached to his track saw and he said NO SAWDUST EITHER.

here's the link in case you haven't seen it and be prepared cause he's a TECHIE that even with your skills he might challenge you.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263351&highlight=woody

PS. clamping a straight edge and following along with my skill or worm drive saws seems to rip wood pretty decently for me so far, but I DO KNOW THERE IS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP so to speak.
 

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Bob I bought a track saw last year it is a Dewalt. This saw realy shines when ripping 4x8 sheats of plywood. I bought it off the net a place in las vegas. At least $75.00 less than any other I saw. Free shipping to. I should have don this long ago.
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Bob: don't feel like the lone ranger about wanting a nice track saw cause i've been doing research for a long time thinking about it. once I start my fence and deck project i might have to bite the bullet. for now my 12 inch Dewalt compound miter, Makita 10 inch chop and my skill and jig saws butcher up the wood good enough for me.

if you'd like to see another member's comments on one that i respect Denwood (Woody) bought one a year or so ago and HE LOVES HIS and i think he bought a Makita. check out his thread and he just finished a media room in his basement and took the saws down there with his little shop vac with dust system attached to his track saw and he said NO SAWDUST EITHER.

here's the link in case you haven't seen it and be prepared cause he's a TECHIE that even with your skills he might challenge you.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263351&highlight=woody

PS. clamping a straight edge and following along with my skill or worm drive saws seems to rip wood pretty decently for me so far, but I DO KNOW THERE IS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP so to speak.
Drives, thanks for stopping by and thanks for the link to Woody's thread. I'm an avid fan of his work, the garage transformation, deck, front porch and now the home theatre (Canadian). I also follow Gregor Halenda (Sakurama) and his Mid-Century Moto Mecca Makeover. He invested in the Festool track saw and all its siblings and relatives. If you want the best, Festool is the way to go but I have this problem spending money on tools I won't use enough to justify their cost.

I already have a 10-inch radial arm saw, 10-inch table saw, jig saw, two reciprocating saws (big and small), three chain saws and a 7-1/4 circular saw. I also have three routers and would like the track to work with those as well. In fact, keeping a router from wandering is more important to me than the circular saw. I managed to get the track (two pieces making it over 8-feet), saw guide and router guide for less than $150. I can afford to use it once and not feel guilty if I never use it again.
 
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Bob I bought a track saw last year it is a Dewalt. This saw realy shines when ripping 4x8 sheats of plywood. I bought it off the net a place in las vegas. At least $75.00 less than any other I saw. Free shipping to. I should have don this long ago.
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Walt, if my wife starts finding more projects involving plywood I may end up investing in a Dewalt or Makita. At 73 I don't buy tools to last 50 years. If they make it through one project, I'm happy.
 

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Biscuits? What time will the biscuits be ready and will there be sausage gravy?

Bob, I have a saw glide I forget to use. I need to take it out of the box and hang it on the pegboard so I remember to use it. Thanks.
 

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Walt, if my wife starts finding more projects involving plywood I may end up investing in a Dewalt or Makita. At 73 I don't buy tools to last 50 years. If they make it through one project, I'm happy.

Bob that was my theory until I decided I needed to built the kayak (if I can ever get started) and a few finer things with hand tools. What I had was slim and mostly Craftsman tools belonging to my dad who did not know how to sharpen them. You know once I got fair at sharpening I wanted vintage tools worth the time to sharpen. Let the games begin. The good stuff is plentiful but not cheap. In fact much of it is more expensive than power tools :eyecrazy: What a dilemma! Sad thing is, the grand kids couldn't care less about doing things by hand so I have to spend money with NO JUSTIFICATION! What's a guy to do when he has things on his conscience at 68 ? Bobby
 

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Bob that was my theory until I decided I needed to built the kayak (if I can ever get started) and a few finer things with hand tools. Bobby

I have a few 16' Cedar boards up on the rack that I picked up about 10 years ago to build a strip planked kayak. Should be good and dry by now.
One day.... When the other projects are finished.

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Biscuits? What time will the biscuits be ready and will there be sausage gravy?

Bob, I have a saw glide I forget to use. I need to take it out of the box and hang it on the pegboard so I remember to use it. Thanks.
Stewart, the biscuits are ready but are a lot tougher than the ones from Pies 'N' Thighs (Brooklyn, NY).
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I wonder where they buy heart-shaped ones. I assumed my oval biscuits were fresh but maybe not. Does the sausage gravy soften them up?

I have two kinds of tools: (1) the tools I forget to use and (2) the tools I can't remember where they are. I need to buy Smart tools -- the kind that have an iPhone built-in that'll call me whenever I'm lost.
Bob that was my theory until I decided I needed to built the kayak (if I can ever get started) and a few finer things with hand tools. What I had was slim and mostly Craftsman tools belonging to my dad who did not know how to sharpen them. You know once I got fair at sharpening I wanted vintage tools worth the time to sharpen. Let the games begin. The good stuff is plentiful but not cheap. In fact much of it is more expensive than power tools :eyecrazy: What a dilemma! Sad thing is, the grand kids couldn't care less about doing things by hand so I have to spend money with NO JUSTIFICATION! What's a guy to do when he has things on his conscience at 68 ? Bobby
Bobby, I kinda went the other way.

When I bought my first car in 1962 I had a Crescent wrench, slip joint pliers and a straight screwdriver. Discovered I couldn't remove the cylinder heads with those tools so I bought a ratchet handle and the two sockets needed to do that job. Got an air compressor and pneumatic impact ten years later and I was hooked.

We bought our first house in 1966 and my grandmother gifted me that hand saw so I could finish the basement. I had already invested in a hammer so I was good to go. When my father died two years later I inherited his 1/4-inch power drill (single speed, not reversible) his rabbet plane and brace and bit. Once I had that first power tool for woodworking, I was hooked again.

I would love to start doing stuff by hand but 73 is probably not the best age to start. I feel good that I now have more than one sharpening stone and am able to put a decent edge on the plane irons. Like you, my grandchildren have little interest in my tools. Anything that doesn't make texting faster or easier holds no interest. One grandson is into diesel pickups but with no dyno in my garage I am a useless old man (except when he needs help buying a billet input shaft for the trans).
I have a few 16' Cedar boards up on the rack that I picked up about 10 years ago to build a strip planked kayak. Should be good and dry by now.
One day.... When the other projects are finished.

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Andrew, would you be interested in a box full of walnut off-cuts? I haven't tested them but they look dry to me.
Andy, you have no business LOLing at any of us. You make your own aluminum hammers.
 

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