Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Denver MCM garage expansion
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Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.
Following the traditional Saturday morning breakfast with a holiday-depleted group, we made our way to the newly completed garage condo where my CS coupe is being stored to check out a couple of new arrivals.
Garage update: waiting on the electrical inspection - waiting on replacement windows for ones damaged during transport - large fixed windows on house are scheduled for install next week.
In the meantime, I'm starting to collect materials for the next stages: insulation and stainless steel siding nails and aluminum trim for the cedar siding. Also, deciding on whether or not I should rebuild a wall that I'm not happy about.
Garage update: waiting on the electrical inspection - waiting on replacement windows for ones damaged during transport - large fixed windows on house are scheduled for install next week.
In the meantime, I'm starting to collect materials for the next stages: insulation and stainless steel siding nails and aluminum trim for the cedar siding. Also, deciding on whether or not I should rebuild a wall that I'm not happy about.
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sakurama
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Wow, got to subscribe here. Love the garage and really love the coupe. I had a 72 Bavaria as my first car when I was growing up in southern Colorado. Only imported car in a town of pickups probably but that car led to my love of the bikes.
Nice.
Gregor
Nice.
Gregor
GLTHFJ60
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Mmmm6. Love the e24s, used to have a 635CSi.
Thanks for reading, Gregor. I hope my place comes out even half as nice as yours. I use your thread not only for ideas, but also your photos are excellent examples for showing my wife particular details. But... I never wrote on your thread that we blame you for introducing me to Festool. I've been Domino-ing everything ever since.
Any idea if your Bav still exists? I know a few guys that own one.
I was thinking of picking up a black e24 and prepping it for the track, but they're a little on the heavy side and the car was a little too nice (but it still would have been expensive to get it ready for it's new life). Too bad, I was thinking of a JPS-look that would be familiar to our Aussie mates. Here it is when my CS was temporarily sharing a garage with it.
Garage update: we passed the electrical inspection with only a few questions
House update: we finally got a trim carpenter here who knows what he is doing with built-in windows. Third time's a charm.
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I was inspired by Gregor's recent before and after comparisons. So, here's my attempt to get things up to date.
Here's the overview. A few trees had to be removed for the ~400 sqft addition to the back of the garage. The wall between the house and garage will be replaced with one that is flush with the front of the house. THe electrical service now at the back corner of the garage.
I'm planning on building a fence from the house to about where I'm standing for the photo so that there is some privacy. I don't want any shades, tinting etc so that the window is as "invisible" as possible.
I couldn't find any recent photos of the bedroom so I had to go back to the realtor's. The room was pretty dark with the one medium window - I don't think we'll have a problem with light now.
The windows aren't fully set and caulked yet because there are some flaws in the glass and the boss needs to inspect and decide on how to proceed. Yet another delay....
Here's the overview. A few trees had to be removed for the ~400 sqft addition to the back of the garage. The wall between the house and garage will be replaced with one that is flush with the front of the house. THe electrical service now at the back corner of the garage.
I'm planning on building a fence from the house to about where I'm standing for the photo so that there is some privacy. I don't want any shades, tinting etc so that the window is as "invisible" as possible.
I couldn't find any recent photos of the bedroom so I had to go back to the realtor's. The room was pretty dark with the one medium window - I don't think we'll have a problem with light now.
The windows aren't fully set and caulked yet because there are some flaws in the glass and the boss needs to inspect and decide on how to proceed. Yet another delay....
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Morio
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Wow! Awesome place, AND BEAUTIFUL CARS!
I would love to add an e9 to my garage!
I would love to add an e9 to my garage!
jimmie jam
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Looking good!
sakurama
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Wow those windows make such a huge difference and really are appropriate to the original idea of the MCM ethos.
Nicely done.
Gregor
Nicely done.
Gregor
Thanks Morio. We have similar tastes in cars, and one of dreams that my wife and I share was to live in a loft inside a large converted industrial space - kind of like the house you built... and I would have build an indoor ramp.
Thanks guys! There were a couple of things that I imagined the first time I walked through this house - large windows for the master bedroom was one of them. I had a few friends that grew up in Eichler houses and the large windows always stuck with me because it was like the room was completely open to the outdoors. I'm happy with the concept of the windows but now we just need to come to an agreement with the glass mfg. on what to do with the defective glass. Speaking of windows, the replacement windows for the ones damaged in transit are on their way. Hopefully they'll be more careful with this set!
The only other update from the weekend is that I did rebuild a wall that was bothering me. I also sided it with T1-11 and got a coat of paint on it to test the effect of the grey color on the lighting. Oh, and it also gave us a chance to see how the Formica samples would look with the paint. I plan on facing the cabinet doors and some of the bench surfaces with laminates instead of paint. We're leaning towards the lime green/blue combo in the center.
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The two replacement windows showed up this week - but one of them won't open. Still no word on replacing the defective built-in-place window panes.
The windows on the garage are done so I can start up on the siding again. But, I decided to stop at the top board because the window guys are coming back to check on why the left window won't open and with my luck they'll probably end up having to replace it again. Here's what it looked like after I applied another coat of Penofin oil.
The windows on the garage are done so I can start up on the siding again. But, I decided to stop at the top board because the window guys are coming back to check on why the left window won't open and with my luck they'll probably end up having to replace it again. Here's what it looked like after I applied another coat of Penofin oil.
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TahitianGreen
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These windows seem a bigger headache than everything else.
LaCorski
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Luv the look of that natural oiled wood! Very nice touch!
kwyjibo,
Just stumbled across this thread and am loving the landscape/hardscape work! Wish you hadn't lost some of the early shots to photobucket!
I have a 60's modern house in KC with a carport that was at some point converted to a garage (luckily they added depth when they did so I've got 3-4 cars worth of parking). Of course like you a lot of the house projects inside/outside take precedence over the garage but I'm getting around to getting it done. Need to start a thread with that stuff here myself. Are you in the Arapahoe Acres area? We were in Denver a few years ago and did a quick walk of the streets checking out all the cool MCM structures and getting ideas, etc.
Just stumbled across this thread and am loving the landscape/hardscape work! Wish you hadn't lost some of the early shots to photobucket!
I have a 60's modern house in KC with a carport that was at some point converted to a garage (luckily they added depth when they did so I've got 3-4 cars worth of parking). Of course like you a lot of the house projects inside/outside take precedence over the garage but I'm getting around to getting it done. Need to start a thread with that stuff here myself. Are you in the Arapahoe Acres area? We were in Denver a few years ago and did a quick walk of the streets checking out all the cool MCM structures and getting ideas, etc.
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Thank you for taking the time to read and reply! You should start a thread, I'm sure that I'm not the only one who'd like to see your projects.
Arapahoe Acres is a few miles to the southwest from us. We're in a neighborhood that some people call "Lynwood", which is a few blocks away from the better known "Krisana Park". Both of the neighborhoods were made by the same developer, HB Wolff. If you google either of these developments there's a reasonable amount of info and photos. PM if you're ever back in the area.
Thanks LaCorski! The oiled cedar is mostly my wife's doing. She grew up in the Seattle area and wanted more natural wood. The horizontal boards are a deviation from the mid-century modern style (more contemporary modern) but I think it still goes well with the house design. We'll see if it's an overwhelming amount of wood when it's all mounted up.
I had no idea that so many things could go wrong with the windows (I didn't even mention most of the problems so far) but the whole thing with these houses is the connection of the interior with the outdoors. Large windows play a big part of it. They WILL be worth it when it's all done. They will....
I don't have photos of the most recent updates. I finished framing the wall and installed the door that separates the two garages. The large sliding window on the garage was repaired so I finished the horizontal cedar siding and moved on to the tedious bits of T1-11 that surround the windows. I still need to find 1x8 t&g boards for the ceilings and soffits.
Travy
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Beautiful house and cars, the expansion of the garage and additional windows really makes for such a nice space. Can't wait to see more updates.
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TurtleValley
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All that glass is great decision. The floor to roof bedroom window turned out very nice.
That is going to be a great place to purdy up the carz!
That is going to be a great place to purdy up the carz!
Thanks!
The windows have really been painful. We're down to waiting for one last replacement pane. The installers replaced the defective windows last week, but one of the replacements was also bad. So we're waiting on the replacement for the replacement.
A few updates-
- I picked up insulation for the walls. The 2x6-sized batts for the ceiling are special order for some reason. Which is fine because I don't have the room to store them right now.
- The storage company decided to suddenly raise my rent by 20%. So I moved everything out. Waste of a day and now the garages are crowded with our junk and the insulation.
- Now that the large fixed window in the bedroom is done, I started mounting the cedar siding on the interior side of the back wall. I hope to have this wall finished by the weekend.
- I bought a few T&G 1x8 boards for the the ceiling and soffitss to see how well they match the 60-year old T&G 2x8 ceiling in the old part of the garage. The new boards are ~1/4" narrower, but they're also about half the price of boards from other lumber yards... so, I'll probably go with them. I got as far as the downspout, which means that I need to do something about getting a permanent downspout.
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Saturday update - more fun with cedar siding.
I still need to trim above it, but I finished the cedar in the master bedroom. I did also manage to finish the exterior trim of the window. The future plan is to continue the T&G cedar wall outside the window and build a deck level with the floor.
Finally finished the T1-11 around the garage windows, which allowed me to put up the aluminum corner and continue the siding around the corner. I stopped at the top board because it takes more concentration to fit it around the contours of the window than I had this afternoon.
I still need to trim above it, but I finished the cedar in the master bedroom. I did also manage to finish the exterior trim of the window. The future plan is to continue the T&G cedar wall outside the window and build a deck level with the floor.
Finally finished the T1-11 around the garage windows, which allowed me to put up the aluminum corner and continue the siding around the corner. I stopped at the top board because it takes more concentration to fit it around the contours of the window than I had this afternoon.
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I finally got around to finishing a project that has been bothering me (but I've been avoiding for some reason). Most of the photos posted in this thread don't show the area above the two large windows at the center of the addition because there were two twisted 2x6s hanging there where the end of a beam should be. But that beam is a steel I-beam that stops at the wall, so I needed to make a 2' section of a fake beam on the outside. First, I replaced the twisted 2x6s and then used them as the backbone of a frame to hold up 1/4" plywood skin and a small section of beam waste to give the end a grain pattern.
The faux beam does a pretty good job matching the real one. One problem is that it's too good: the real beams are roughsawn but the ply that I used is too smooth. It looks almost plastic when I coated with primer.
One more thing - while looking for laminates for the cabinets, I came across a company called Kerf Design in Wa. that makes exactly the kind of cabinets that I had in mind. I would use different design for handles but the frameless cabinets with flush inset doors/fronts is my plan. Here is a photo from their site showing a kitchen using their cabinets:
The faux beam does a pretty good job matching the real one. One problem is that it's too good: the real beams are roughsawn but the ply that I used is too smooth. It looks almost plastic when I coated with primer.
One more thing - while looking for laminates for the cabinets, I came across a company called Kerf Design in Wa. that makes exactly the kind of cabinets that I had in mind. I would use different design for handles but the frameless cabinets with flush inset doors/fronts is my plan. Here is a photo from their site showing a kitchen using their cabinets:
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Not much work going on this weekend because it's cold and crappy out today. But I realize that there are two important updates that I hadn't posted. First, the windows are done! I still need to trim and seal them all but the contracted part is finally complete. Here is a photo from the dining area, looking across to the garage. The same photo taken last week would have shown hundreds of small vertical distortions in the window on the right. This window is the product of four (!!!!) attempts at making it. The window in the master bedroom took three attempts. I'm glad that they were willing to stand by their work, but at the same time, it took them about three months to get their act together.
The second update is further fallout from leaving the storage unit. I need to reshuffle everything and was able to find room for all of my tools, parts and other junk in among the building materials (insulation, lumber, etc) in the other garage bay. But I had no choice but to move the thing that took the most room into the construction area. I'm certain that the new floors will soon have their first oil spots.
The second update is further fallout from leaving the storage unit. I need to reshuffle everything and was able to find room for all of my tools, parts and other junk in among the building materials (insulation, lumber, etc) in the other garage bay. But I had no choice but to move the thing that took the most room into the construction area. I'm certain that the new floors will soon have their first oil spots.
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TurtleValley
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Coming along very nicely!
The windows and TG siding is coming out great!
The windows and TG siding is coming out great!
Thanks, Mr. Turtle!
The trimming seems to be going slower than I thought it would - actually, most of my time is spent trying to figure out the details. Once I decide on a plan, the physical part of trimming doesn't take too long. All the little bits of progress add up over time but my wife never notices any of it until I point them out! Now that the windows are done, I'm waiting for the motivation to hang the T&G siding on the wall between the two large windows.
This is the only photo showing an update. The insulation and siding on the back wall are up and it just needs to be painted. I discovered after painting the beam above it that the almost black paint does a great job of hiding the hurricane ties. I was thinking that I would need to cover the beams to hide the ties but now that may be a waste of time and money. One last decision (yea, right) I need to make is whether or not to hang the cabinets directly to the studs or first put up OSB sheets. Most of the wall on the the left side of the photo will be covered by cabinets and I'm not sure if the OSB would really add anything. Thoughts?
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mbushnell
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Hi,
I'm having a new build house being built in Windsor, CO & have been looking through your thread. Signed the Purchase Agreement in late December & they are saying 6 - 8 months build time, so that would put move in sometime around June / August, hopefully.
Who did the coating on the garage floor? That's one thing that I would want done, along with the basement floor (the basement will be unfinished for now). My builder is a production builder, not a custom builder, so I have to go with what they offer (either standard or offered options), so anything additional that I wish to have done will have to be after I close on the house.
Also, does the electrician that you mentioned a couple of posts back (Brandon with Infinity Electric) do work in Windsor? I'm currently in Northeastern NJ and after Tropical Storm Sandy in 2011, I was without electrical power for 11 days. A year to the day before Sandy, we had a late October snow storm. As the leaves were still on the trees, branches were breaking all over the place & I was without power for 5 days. I had a small portable generator & a transfer switch, so I had a source of electricity, but it meant going out to start it up every morning & also trying to find gasoline for the generator (most of the gas stations had no power to pump gas either). I'd like to look into having a standby generator put in, if nothing else at least a transfer switch so that I can hook up a portable generator.
Hello MBushnell, the floor guys are up near your new town, so I'm sure they'd be happy to not make the drive down to Denver. Here is their site https://epoxycolorado.com/
Brandon also lives north of Denver so going to your neighborhood shouldn't pose a problem. His contact info is on this page
https://www.homeadvisor.com/rated.InfinityElectricLLC.51479210.html
Brandon also lives north of Denver so going to your neighborhood shouldn't pose a problem. His contact info is on this page
https://www.homeadvisor.com/rated.InfinityElectricLLC.51479210.html
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tig
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You have great taste in cars. That is all.
smschriefer
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Hrm, I was reading another build that I follow and next thing I know I fall down a rabbit hole and read your build. Very nice work! Between you and Gregor, I am beginning to really appreciate MCM. I grew up in a few and I didn't like them when I was young. It was probably that my parents felt every wall needed to be white and have golden carpet.
Regarding the siding in the garage behind the cabinets... I'd say yes, do install it. It is a barrier to rodents and it also gives the walls a bit more structural rigidity.
I also agree with tig, you have great taste in cars.
Regarding the siding in the garage behind the cabinets... I'd say yes, do install it. It is a barrier to rodents and it also gives the walls a bit more structural rigidity.
I also agree with tig, you have great taste in cars.
lol, thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to go through the thread. I'm nowhere near Gregor in the skills department, but I appreciate it.
One hesitation on sheathing is that I expect that I'll need to do some future electrical work in those walls and if it's just cabinets, then I'd just have to lift them off the cleats to get access. I'm still probably a few months out from the time that I'll start on the cabinets so I've got some time to figure it out.
No real updates to report. I've been sick since the weekend so I've stuck to simple things like second coats of paint, oiling boards, etc.
E12-535iTurbo
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Nice choice of cars 
Nice choice of cars
Dank je wel. Unless I missed it, you haven't mentioned your e12 project in a while. I feel guilty that my e12 has been sitting in my friend's garage while my garage construction is ongoing.
I finally started on the cedar siding between the windows on the house. It took me all morning to get to the test fitting of the first board in the photo. Before this, I had to: fix some window trim and OSB so that the aluminum edge trim (on the right end, closest to the camera) would sit flush, crawl under the house to disconnect the water faucet and dryer vent and then decide where the cutout for the pipes would fall on the boards. According to the storystick, my layout will end with a half board across the top. I didn't shoot any photos after lunch, I'll add a photo later that shows a few more boards up.
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E12-535iTurbo
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To be honest: I haven't seen the car in about 1.5 years. It's in storage 2 miles down the road but I haven't been there since I've put it there. Come to realize that: now I feel sad.
I just read through your thread: nice work!
Thanks! Sorry about bringing up your e12. In the past few days the future of my e12 has become more clear. I have a friend who was interested in buying it as is (with the automatic transmission). But, he just bought another car so I will go ahead with my plans for the 5-speed swap. Of course, I will need to finish the garage first.
Here is where the cedar siding is as of today. I'll need to cut notches in the boards that go across the small bathroom window. This is a major pain because the grooved board is lowered onto the tongue of the board below but the window frames have grooves for the boards (see below) and for the bottom of the window, the board needs to slide up.
I combined two photos to show the aluminum trim. The left side shows the extruded frame for the sliding doors from Western Windows that have a channel built in. The ends of the siding slip into the groove so that there is an approx. 3/4" aluminum cap. For the other end where the siding meets the built-in-place window, I used a Schluter 3/4" square tile edge. The wood butts up to the edge of the aluminum extrusion rather than slide under. But unless you look carefully, both ends of the cedar wall look like they are trimmed with the same 3/4" aluminum.
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ODIS
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Looks like you are making great progress. Think all of your decisions on color, texture, and product/process are spot on.
Really like the oiled cedar too.
All nicely done and appreciate all "air-cooled" owners!
Keep up the great work.
Really like the oiled cedar too.
All nicely done and appreciate all "air-cooled" owners!
Keep up the great work.
Thanks, Ody!
The siding is moving along. I'm up to the top couple boards - I'll post a photo once its completely done. You can see it in the background of the photo from inside the garage. The great thing is that the wood pile in the garage is shrinking and that is giving me more room to work. The bad news is that I will be ordering more insulation and T&G boards for the ceiling so the extra space will soon be disappearing again.
The second photo is just a gratuitous view of the garage from the house at sundown
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smschriefer
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kwyjibo, things are looking great and I really like the cedar. You mentioned the T&G boards for the ceiling, is that going in the house, or the garage? Either place sounds great. Also, is there a protective film on the windows? They look cloudy, so maybe just dirt?
Hi Steve, good questions - The windows do have the shipping film on them still. I figured that as long as I'm still painting and oiling, I'll leave them on to protect from any flying ****. My OCD side really wants to peel them off!
The T&G are going in as the ceiling of the garage addition. The original garage had a roof deck that is T&G 2x8 topped with a gravel and tar. When a previous owner re-roofed the house about 10 years ago with the membrane, they put a layer of styrofoam and membrane on the garage, too. The addition has 2x6 joists so I can get at least some insulation in the roof. THe 1x8 T&G boards will hopefully make the new ceiling look like the original. I've attached a photo of where the old and new ceilings meet at a beam.
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Finished the siding on the house! It's been cold and very windy here for the past couple days so I put off trying to hang the siding by myself. I had no excuse today. It didn't take too long because I had cut the boards last weekend. I even installed the mid-century wall sconces that I've been storing for a while.
Now I need to get back to the last bit of siding on the garage addition - you can see on the far right side that I haven't done anything to it for a couple weeks.
Now I need to get back to the last bit of siding on the garage addition - you can see on the far right side that I haven't done anything to it for a couple weeks.
