National Auto Tools Triumph C 7000

[redsand187]

Well I am definitely going to request lift gate service. But how do they move the lift from inside the truck on to the lift gate?

Do they bring a pallet jack on the truck?

They bring a pallet jack. I haven't ever had a LTL truck show up without a lift gate paid for or not. I don't know if that's standard or if it's just my area.

The truck drivers have always been cool with me as well. I guess technically they could just pull up and be like "it's all your problem, now hurry up." But instead all my experiences have been, "where would you like me to unload this and take it to?" As long as it's flat ground, moving something with a pallet jack isn't a big deal. They have to have a pallet jack to get the stuff to the rear of the truck anyways, so they don't seem to care about moving it another 50 feet.

Chances are the truck driver will be a car guy and think it's awesome you're getting a lift.

 

[jacobsed]

Mine has wheels. You just give it a big bear hug, lean the post back and roll it.
Its not bad at all. Also, they are more like 400lbs.

I was able to pick up the post from the top end and push it all the way upright on my own. I'm 5'10" 165lbs.

haha for real. they said 1 post is 500 lbs.

Which gets me wondering how 1 person could possibly move a 500 lbs post around, even if on a dolly.

How did you upright the posts when you first got the lift? How many people did it take?

 

[RAYJAY]

Mine has wheels. You just give it a big bear hug, lean the post back and roll it.
Its not bad at all. Also, they are more like 400lbs.

I was able to pick up the post from the top end and push it all the way upright on my own. I'm 5'10" 165lbs.

you can't say wheels on these lifts ..... there not portable thats trade marked ........

 

[jacobsed]

hahah...right on

I wonder what else you can slap some wheels on and stake a claim to?

you can't say wheels on these lifts ..... there not portable thats trade marked ........

 

[All_Bavarian_Garage]

Mine has wheels. You just give it a big bear hug, lean the post back and roll it.
Its not bad at all. Also, they are more like 400lbs.

I was able to pick up the post from the top end and push it all the way upright on my own. I'm 5'10" 165lbs.

wow if u were able to stand it up on your own then that makes me much more confident that 4 guys can lift one off of a truck.

But hopefully it will have a lift gate and pallet jack to get it on to the ground. I can then unpack and wheel them into the garage with a hand truck / dolly.

 

[RAYJAY]

having my floor done for the lift,

what measurement is every one doing between the posts,

have a focus, 2013 Taurus and full size truck

 

[All_Bavarian_Garage]

having my floor done for the lift,

what measurement is every one doing between the posts,

have a focus, 2013 Taurus and full size truck

wanted to bump this up. Its getting close to delivery time and Im also wondering how wide I should set the posts.

What width are you guys going with?

 

[jacobsed]

Mine is set for a 102" drive through clearance. So it is 102" from base to base.

 

[M. Schneider]

+1 ... Relocating the 2-lift columns using a truly HD (heavy duty) 2-wheel handcart sounds doable, although initiating the columns tilt-over from the at-rest vertical position is scary. A second person as a solid spotter is encouraged when moving the lift columns.

Jacobsed - Could you ping a snap shot photo of the old column with wheels? If not permissible here on the forum? Privately through my email address? Email address available through forum.

Cheers, Mike Schneider
North Georgia mountains

Mine has wheels. You just give it a big bear hug, lean the post back and roll it.
Its not bad at all. Also, they are more like 400lbs.

I was able to pick up the post from the top end and push it all the way upright on my own. I'm 5'10" 165lbs.

 

[Ign]

^^^TSC sells an uber-duty hand truck. It's so huge I rarely use it but nice for really big things!!

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259577

 

[RAYJAY]

+1 ... Relocating the 2-lift columns using a truly HD (heavy duty) 2-wheel handcart sounds doable, although initiating the columns tilt-over from the at-rest vertical position is scary. A second person as a solid spotter is encouraged when moving the lift columns.

Jacobsed - Could you ping a snap shot photo of the old column with wheels? If not permissible here on the forum? Privately through my email address? Email address available through forum.

Cheers, Mike Schneider
North Georgia mountains

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6056558#post6056558


#38 POST


http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224636&highlight=NAT+C7000&page=13


POST #242

 

[M. Schneider]

Thanks RAYJAY -
The column pic's at #38 post appears to be a straight forward wheel arrangement. A suitable wheel/caster DIY is in my future.

When unpacking the lift last month, the front bucket of our JD tractor proved useful. Our '92 JD 855 estate tractors lifting capacity was on the edge when lifting a single post - then took notice of the cleaver packaging where lift arms assemblies & hdwr was stowed inside of each post. Once removed, the load of each post was lightened somewhat. Tractor> bucket> lift post is the new strategy for moving the Lift outside .....

 

[Stingrey]

Great thread!... I am very close to buying a C-7000 or a Maxjax MX-6. I think the C-7000 is much more robust and leaning that way....but delivery will be a trick... Question is with anyone that has been using a C-7000 for a while now is, how are the cylinders holding up? Any leaks?...Do you still like it?

Have read quite a bit about MJ cylinder leaks...

 

[Stingrey]

Oh, one other question regarding poll placement. 100" - 106" between plates sounds good. How far from garage door should posts be? Mostly full size cars, maybe an SUV or 2.

 

[jacobsed]

I still love it. No cylinder leaks. The only thing I did was get some new hoses because the ones that came with it starting to crack after a couple years. I had a local hose shop make up some nice Gates hoses.

Great thread!... I am very close to buying a C-7000 or a Maxjax MX-6. I think the C-7000 is much more robust and leaning that way....but delivery will be a trick... Question is with anyone that has been using a C-7000 for a while now is, how are the cylinders holding up? Any leaks?...Do you still like it?

Have read quite a bit about MJ cylinder leaks...

 

[JohnnyK8]

Great thread!... I am very close to buying a C-7000 or a Maxjax MX-6. I think the C-7000 is much more robust and leaning that way....but delivery will be a trick... Question is with anyone that has been using a C-7000 for a while now is, how are the cylinders holding up? Any leaks?...Do you still like it?

Have read quite a bit about MJ cylinder leaks...

No cylinder problems here. Mine is working perfectly. Love it. No regrets at all

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[Durango_GarageMaHal]

Delivery day fast approaching. Having mine shipped to freight terminal as my friend is the terminal manager. Did anybody pick theirs up in a pickup truck? Any issues loading into pickup? I'm not worried about weight as I have a 1-ton with airbags. I think it's supposed to arrive tomorrow or Wednesday. Thanks.

I also have to figure out layout, distance from garage door, width, etc. to be able to lift variety of vehicles. Are there any guidelines to figure this out based upon lift points, length of vehicles, etc.?

 

[JohnnyK8]

Delivery day fast approaching. Having mine shipped to freight terminal as my friend is the terminal manager. Did anybody pick theirs up in a pickup truck? Any issues loading into pickup? I'm not worried about weight as I have a 1-ton with airbags. I think it's supposed to arrive tomorrow or Wednesday. Thanks.

I also have to figure out layout, distance from garage door, width, etc. to be able to lift variety of vehicles. Are there any guidelines to figure this out based upon lift points, length of vehicles, etc.?

I picked mine up with an f150 (2 inches to spare) but had the dock guy at work load it with the forklift.



Use a cherry picker to get it off the truck or have a couple buddies help.

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[javarithms]

I'm trying to wire up the pump on my C-7000 but I'm seeing a discrepancy between the wiring schematic on the pump (see pic) and the way the wires are connected right now from the factory (see pic). The issue is that the Line/Hot wire is reversed with the Neutral according to the schematic on the pump (Line/Hot is shown connected to terminal 3L2 and neutral is on 5L3).

The hand drawn schematic from NAT also shows the wires reversed (see attachment). So I'm confused if I should follow the schematic on the pump or just stick with the way it's wired up right now. Am I reading the pump schematic incorrectly?

Hoping somebody can chime in and verify what terminals the hot and neutral should be connected to?

Thanks.

 

[JohnnyK8]

Mine was wired using European colored scheme (brown and striped).

Wish I had more help to offer.

Any harm in giving it a whirl and testing it out?

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[javarithms]

Mine was wired using European colored scheme (brown and striped).

Wish I had more help to offer.

Any harm in giving it a whirl and testing it out?

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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I could try it but I don't want to fry or degradade the pump.

Would it be possible to take a picture of the connections inside of your pump and also the schematic attached to the side?

Thanks.

 

[JohnnyK8]

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I could try it but I don't want to fry or degradade the pump.

Would it be possible to take a picture of the connections inside of your pump and also the schematic attached to the side?

Thanks.

Good idea - yes I'll do that when I get home.

I had a question wiring mine and hit them up on Facebook and had a response in minutes. Worth a shot.

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[javarithms]

Good idea - yes I'll do that when I get home.

I had a question wiring mine and hit them up on Facebook and had a response in minutes. Worth a shot.

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Thanks a lot!! I did talk to them but they weren't very convincing....

I'll try again on Monday. Maybe, they can reach out to the pump manufacturer and get the answer. I rather not fry the pump if I can help it.

Thanks again

 

[JohnnyK8]

I have very little slack so I couldn't pull the switch out of the box





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[javarithms]

I have very little slack so I couldn't pull the switch out of the box

Looks like the wiring is the same as mine and the schematic on the pump is wrong.

Thank you for taking the pictures. I really appreciate it

 

[JohnnyK8]

Awesome!!! What stage are you at? Columns installed and just need to wire it up?



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[javarithms]

Awesome!!! What stage are you at? Columns installed and just need to wire it up?



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No, haven't installed the columns yet. I've been removing all of the teflon tapes from the fittings and reinstalling them with permatex thread sealant. Need to finish up the 25ft 10g extension wire and install the 30amp power outlet.

Also have to rent a hammer drill and test my concrete to see if it's up to spec. I'm hoping I don't have to touch the concrete.

 

[javarithms]

Forgot to ask, have you replaced the jumper wire for the motor with a safety switch? I'm thinking about installing this paddle switch either on the pump or on one of the columns.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005W17FRS/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[JohnnyK8]

Nope I have not but that's a cool idea.

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[javarithms]

Installed the kill switch. Thought I'd share in case somebody else is interested in doing this.

 

[JohnnyK8]

Cool, so does this replace the button?

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[javarithms]

No, this kills the power in case the (cheap chinese?) button ever decides to stay ON permanently.

 

[leanjay]

in everyones opinion which supplier is the best price / service and shipping when it comes to purchasing a c-7000 ???

 

[JohnnyK8]

in everyones opinion which supplier is the best price / service and shipping when it comes to purchasing a c-7000 ???

Big Boy garage toys

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[leanjay]

thanks buddy...

 

[javarithms]

I bought mine directly from NAT and got a nice discount but had to wait 10 weeks.

 

[sreeb]

I have a garage with 12' nominal ceilings (11'9" actual due to some bracing, supports for lighting, ....).

I was looking at a baseplate lift since most of the ones with overhead connections want a little more height than I have.

I came across this thread while searching for customer experiences on a Triumph 9-nt which was cheap, looked like it would meet all needs I anticipate, and had some decent reviews.

My garage isn't huge and the door configuration is all screwed up so the ability to move it out of the way when not in use would be valuable.

I'm only planning on using it on my own cars so usage will be light.

1) The largest vehicle I have now is a 1/2 ton gmc but I can envision one day having a f250. Would you feel comfortable lifting a 6000-7000 lb vehicle on your 7000 lb lift?

2) Do you guys actually unbolt and move the columns often? The capability seems cool. Is it really?

3) The hydraulic lines to the pump look vunerable to damage. Has anyone had problems?

4) Has anyone ordered from liftswholesale.com

 

[glennda5id]

The posts are very heavy and sort of a pain to move. I only move mine if I really need the space. If you welded on wheels it would probably be easier, but I'm not sure. To move mine, I tip it over on its side and use a wheel truck to move it to the side.

You can route the hydraulic lines however you like and add more hose if nessecary.

I have not had anything over 4500 lbs on mine. Seems sturdy.

Make sure your concrete is good. I also opted for epoxy anchors.

 

[JohnnyK8]

I lift a 6k lbs truck no problems and do occasionally move the posts. It was really awesome when I chose to paint my truck in the middle of the garage.

I really like this lift!

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[asifnyc]

finally got mine installed an operational. only used a couple of times so far but really like it. bought from Big Boys Garage Toys and had a great experience. Really communicative. Answered all my questions, followed up, always available...

I can see already that I will get a long hose for one side and run it up the roof to the other side so I can keep it always connected. Having the hoses on the ground and the pump at the front or rear of vehicle is a pain.

I originally thought I would move 1 post out of the way when not in use but now realize I'm just going to live with it fixed. It is heavy and even if I added wheels I would not feel comfortable tilting it. Someone mentioned lowering it onto dollies. I don't think I could do that alone and I know I needed my engine hoist to lift the columns up the first time.

Here's a pic of my first lift in my steel "quonset hut" style shop.