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Bog: you don't look very happy in the one selfie and not surprised cause that i s TON OF SNOW to shovel. even me who likes to exercise might not be a fan of that much work and of course in the cold too. looks like you got it done or at least so you and or your clients can get to your garage.

It's quite satisfying to get the job done, but it was quite cold at 60 degree Fahrenheit / -16 degrees Celsius.
I had to change the high pressure fuel pump on that BMW E39, so I was in a hurry to remove the snow.

sorry I thought your garage was part of your house and was only bringing up purchase options that would be to your advantage if one day you become the #1 BMW repair guy in your country. best of luck with all of that and keep up the good work. so just the garage and the parking area is what you are renting?

No problem! As I said - I appreciate all advices that I receive, especially those from you and other people on this board. I don't know many people that share my passion for tools and garages. I know a lot of tehnicians, but for the majority of them it's just a job.
There's a long way to becoming a good tehnician, but I try my best.
Yes, I only rent the garage and the front yard. Basically all except what it's beyond the small gate next to the garage.

I was reading that burning oil in your stove might need some venting and also not sure if burning coal needs some venting. does it or do you know? nice idea and let us know how you like it versus wood and does it cost more or less in the long run?

have a great weekend and hoping it warms up a bit for you soon!!
I looked up the instructions manual of the stove before buying the coal and it's a wood or coal stove, so no problem there.
And it's not actually coal but coal briquettes.

For burning oil I would need a totally different stove.
There are special oil burning stoves that are very popular for heating auto shops - around here anyway.
I could get a stove like that, but the thing is that there are two things that keep me from getting one.
The first is that burning used oil leaves a certain smell even if you have a good quality stove. And I dislike that smell. More than that, the garage is in a residential area and I don't want to upset any neighbors by the fumes that would come out the chimney. Other houses are very near the garage.
And the second thing is I like the wood stove. I like chopping wood and it's great exercise. I like the smell of burning wood and seeing it in the stove.
An oil burning stove would be great in a bigger shop where a wood burning stove wouldn't be efficient at all.

I don't burn only charcoal. I start by burning wood and after I get a decent amount of embers in the stove, I take some charcoal briquettes and put them on top of the embers. I believe this is the most efficient way.
I tried to burn only charcoal and I got a lot of smoke.

A great week-end to you too!
Cheers!
 
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cool signs, any real old signs for the 40's? I see the building next to you is for sale? Too much snow for me, I'm ready for warmer weather myself
 
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cool signs, any real old signs for the 40's? I see the building next to you is for sale? Too much snow for me, I'm ready for warmer weather myself

Thanks! You mean Romanian signs from the '40s?

Yes, it is. 800 000 Euros for 800 sq. meters.

It seems to be getting warmer, so it's nice.
 

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Bog: If the building next to your garage does sell and the new owners decide to tear it down to build a multy unit or something different would your garage still remain as a stand alone structure?

also are the owners of your garage the same as the owners of the building that is for sale?

good to hear you got the snow removed and here's hoping you don't have any more to shovel this year.

cheers
 
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You are right. That's exactly what is going to happen. I don't know when, but it will happen.
Fortunately, the garage is a stand alone structure. So when the other house will be demolished, dust will be the only issue.

No, they are separate owners.

I hope so too.

Cheers!

Today I wanted to continue working on the ceiling so early in the morning I went to a local hardware store and bought some drywall plaster.
This stuff hardens very fast and I wasted half of the sack not knowing this. I read the instructions on the bag and it said "up to 15 minutes until hardening". Well, it hardened in 5 minutes.
So I learned from my first mistake and I prepared small amounts of compound multiple times.
I will continue on Monday.

The snow began to melt. :)

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Today I continued to work on the ceiling.
Not yet finished, but I'm getting close.

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Another good thing is that next week the contractors are going to remove the floor and pour a new one. At least that's the plan. I really hope this works out ok. I am quite nervous about it.
 

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I would recommend using sheetrock tape. Its usually white in color and has little square holes and sticky on one side. It could be called fiberglass tape also. This will give the sheetrock "mud" something to hang onto if you have wide gaps. You will need this or your lines will CRACK. Just my .02* worth
 

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BOG: I have to agree with Bugthug that taping the joints might save you from having cracks up there, but even with taping there's no guarantee it won't crack. over here in the USA they sell a sort of sticky and fiberglass type of drywall tape that might still work for you better than just the paper stuff if you'd like to buy some and try it. good luck either way and I hope it won't crack as you did it and if it does maybe a patch later might be a decent fix.

that said maybe since your drywall mud is setting up so quickly you might have a special mud with some epoxy or quick drying stuff in it that might help it from cracking. in any case it's looking a lot better than it did before and congrats on getting it finished.

BEST OF LUCK ON THE CONCRETE WORK!!

also it looked like you lived in Siberia with Stas last week and it's looking like spring now. i'll try to keep sending over some heat to warm you and your cats and dogs up.

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I would recommend using sheetrock tape. Its usually white in color and has little square holes and sticky on one side. It could be called fiberglass tape also. This will give the sheetrock "mud" something to hang onto if you have wide gaps. You will need this or your lines will CRACK. Just my .02* worth

Appreciate the advice. You are absolutely right!
In 2011 when I renovated for the first time, I bought mud that was not ready mixed, so I could make it as thick as I wanted.
Now I only had those patches to mud, so I bought a small quantity of mud and it was ready mixed. So it dripped. I then bought another type of mud that cured very fast in order to be able to fill in those big gaps.
After this type of mud, I applied tape and another layer of mud - the ready mixed type.
The tape I used is fiberglass tape. I have seen on YouTube that in the US a type of paper tape is widely used. Here we only have the fiberglass tape with the square holes.
 
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BOG: I have to agree with Bugthug that taping the joints might save you from having cracks up there, but even with taping there's no guarantee it won't crack. over here in the USA they sell a sort of sticky and fiberglass type of drywall tape that might still work for you better than just the paper stuff if you'd like to buy some and try it. good luck either way and I hope it won't crack as you did it and if it does maybe a patch later might be a decent fix.
That's the exact type of tape that I used. Sticky fiberglass tape for drywall.
Thanks!

that said maybe since your drywall mud is setting up so quickly you might have a special mud with some epoxy or quick drying stuff in it that might help it from cracking. in any case it's looking a lot better than it did before and congrats on getting it finished.
Thanks! :)

BEST OF LUCK ON THE CONCRETE WORK!!

also it looked like you lived in Siberia with Stas last week and it's looking like spring now. i'll try to keep sending over some heat to warm you and your cats and dogs up.

cheers
Thank you! I really hope it will look nice because it's going to cost a lot and I will lose money by not being able to work for at least 10 days.
Yes, it's getting warmer and warmer. It's perfect because I need higher temperatures for pouring the cement.
The dogs stay mostly indoors and they don't care about the outside weather. :))

Today I made some good progress.
I started the day by going to a metal supplier I previously bought stuff from and ordered the angle steel bar for the inspection pit.
Tommorow they will bring it to the shop.
I also bought three OSB sheets to use as shaping forms for the enlargement of the inspection pit.
And I finished applying the mud on the ceiling and did some small repairs on the walls.

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Today the contractor came to the shop and we talked about all the final details.
On Sunday they will come to remove the current floor and set up everything for pouring cement on Monday.
I hope for the best! :)
 

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Bog: do you have to move all your heavy cabinets out while they pour the new floor or are you doing a few phases so you won't have to?

Be careful digging that pit bigger as i'm thinking you will be cause you posted something of a walls support.

i'm crossing my fingers and hoping for the best and wishing you good luck and sending a prayer too.

GOOD LUCK!!

take lots of pictures if you think of it and have time to.
 
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I will move everything near the workbenches. That part of the floor will not be removed because it's in great shape.
I will do this on Saturday.

Yes, that's the plan.

Thank you! The same to you. I am watching closely your organization and it's really great. Congrats!

Today I have cut and welded the angle steel for the inspection pit.
And I have also cut one of the OSB panels for the inspection pit concrete pouring.
I wanted to have it cut at a specialized shop and drove it there but they didn't want to cut it because I didn't buy it from them. I would have paid for this, but they refused.
So I went back to the garage and cut it myself.
The plan was to get the professional welder I normally work with for automotive stuff to weld the angle steel, but he had other jobs and he said he doesn't have the time.
I believe he didn't want to come because I needed only 4 welds. I welded everything myself. I am not a welder and it shows, but the job is done.

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The inspection pit will have a length of 6 meters or 19.6 feet.

I will post lots of pictures. I really enjoy seeing this stuff on other threads, so I want to share this.
 

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Bog: so you are making your inspection pit longer and not wider? good work getting the board cut and the welding done when others weren't willing or couldn't help.

also looks like weather is warming up which should help your cement and the workers get it done better. hope it keeps getting a bit warmer for another week at least.

GOOD LUCK!!

also thanks for the KUDOS (good words) on my ORGANIZING and feel free to post while you are over there reading my thread if you have time.
 
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Good luck Bogdan,
It's gonna be great, I'm sure. :thumbup:

Regards
Steve.

Thank you, I really appreciate it!

Bog: so you are making your inspection pit longer and not wider? good work getting the board cut and the welding done when others weren't willing or couldn't help.

also looks like weather is warming up which should help your cement and the workers get it done better. hope it keeps getting a bit warmer for another week at least.

GOOD LUCK!!

also thanks for the KUDOS (good words) on my ORGANIZING and feel free to post while you are over there reading my thread if you have time.

Yes, only longer. A wider inspection pit would not work. It is already the correct width - 35 inches wide.
I want to be able to work on another car when one car is suspended on the lift. This way I won't have to get a car off the lift and out the garage in order to make a quick repair or a checkup on another car.
And I think I will need the inspection pit to work on very tall offroad cars like the X5 on specific jobs because of the low ceiling height.
For sedans the ceiling height is more than enough.

Yes, the weather will be ok next week for the cement curing.

Thank you!
 

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BOG: great plan and i'm sending a prayer that the contractor and his crew do a great job and that the weather keeps improving.

GOOD LUCK TOO on getting your part of the job done like you planned.

have a great weekend.

my cat (THE QUEEN) has taken over my daughter's dog's bed now that we washed it and doesn't she look like she's living the good life now.
 

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Thanks, drives! Your cat is very nice and certainly has that Queen attitude. :p

Update:

Today I bought 100 rubble sacks and some other minor thing needed for the renovation.
The big job was to move everything out of the way.
I realized once more that I hoard the most stupid things like cardboard boxes and plastic bottles. I have to correct this habit.

Tomorrow the contractors come to remove the floor.

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Today we made a lot of progress.
The only setback was losing two hours because of a concrete and brick footing of a former building.
With a bit of luck, tomorrow we will pour concrete.

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Hello! First congratulate him for his great work.
When I see that he is expanding the pit, and that he is going to lay a new floor, I am forced to ask him.
Will you take advantage to pass electricity to the pit?
I think that some plug and some fluorescent lamp could come very well inside the pit.
 
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Hello! First congratulate him for his great work.
When I see that he is expanding the pit, and that he is going to lay a new floor, I am forced to ask him.
Will you take advantage to pass electricity to the pit?
I think that some plug and some fluorescent lamp could come very well inside the pit.

The pit already has electricity.
I had lamps in the pit, but over time they all broke. So I removed all the lamps to install new lamps at a later time.
 

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I realized once more that I hoard the most stupid things like cardboard boxes and plastic bottles. I have to correct this habit.

When my grandparents had to put a new oil tank in their basement because the old one was leaking my dad and uncles went over to 'clear' a path to the oil tank so the work could be done. My grandmother was a hoarder, when they cleared the path they found enough empty plastic peanut butter jars to fill 5 large 55 gallon trashbags . . . .

They let her keep one bag of them . . .

Luckily for us my grandmother wasn't so bad that her house was full, if you came in the house you'd never know she was a bit of a hoarder.

Good luck with correcting your habit! Its something I work on too.
 

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BOG: the progress looks like you hired the right guys. sorry to hear you found that old footing in the spot you wanted to extend your pit into. good thing you didn't find old dinosaur fossils or over here they would shut your project down.

keep up the great progress and make sure not to have any gaps in that plastic behind cause i just did some cement work inside and that dust goes everywhere. also pick yourself up a few of these paper masks cause that cement dust is terrible for our lungs. or buy something nicer if you plan on working around chemicals a lot like paint strippers, stains and some of the cleaning products you might need to use in your BMW repairs.

keep up the great work and still hoping your weather keeps getting better at least while the cement work is happening.

good luck
 

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When my grandparents had to put a new oil tank in their basement because the old one was leaking my dad and uncles went over to 'clear' a path to the oil tank so the work could be done. My grandmother was a hoarder, when they cleared the path they found enough empty plastic peanut butter jars to fill 5 large 55 gallon trashbags . . . .

They let her keep one bag of them . . .

Luckily for us my grandmother wasn't so bad that her house was full, if you came in the house you'd never know she was a bit of a hoarder.

Good luck with correcting your habit! Its something I work on too.

Thank you!
Hoarding is a real burned. And it gets worse with time if you don't address it.

BOG: the progress looks like you hired the right guys. sorry to hear you found that old footing in the spot you wanted to extend your pit into. good thing you didn't find old dinosaur fossils or over here they would shut your project down.

keep up the great progress and make sure not to have any gaps in that plastic behind cause i just did some cement work inside and that dust goes everywhere. also pick yourself up a few of these paper masks cause that cement dust is terrible for our lungs. or buy something nicer if you plan on working around chemicals a lot like paint strippers, stains and some of the cleaning products you might need to use in your BMW repairs.

keep up the great work and still hoping your weather keeps getting better at least while the cement work is happening.

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Yes, I really did. Great people. Very professional, punctual and hard working.
Great advices, but I didn't read your post on time. I worked with them on Sunday and Monday.
You are right, dust really got almost everywhere. I should have put more plastic.
Paper masks would have also been a good idea.

I am really exhausted. Yesterday I have helped them with filling rubble sacks, but I also did some welding and installed the wood for the concrete shaping.
I welded the steel angle at the bottom of the doors and also the steel angle of the inspection pit in various places, exactly like the former one. It's not going anywhere.
Yesterday we worked from 7:30 AM to 11 PM. The cement was poured at about 8:30 PM. I stayed there until 3 AM when I finally went home for two hours of sleep. At 8 AM I was back.
They had to go in with the power trowel multiple times during the night.
I arrived this morning when they went in with the power trowel for the last time.

There are a lot of pictures, so I uploaded them here.

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Bog: never too late to pick up some of those masks and most paint or hardware stores have them for $1 or less so shouldn't be too expensive. even use them when cleaning up cause i'm sure you'll have some dust on your stuff cause that dust is fine and not good for your lungs.

your floor is looking AWESOME. hope it finishes out as nice as it looks like it will.

also maybe a rest day for you while the cement is drying might be in order to catch up on all the lack of sleep. happy to see you got the right guys for the job and that little extra work on digging out the pit seemed like it wasn't a big deal.

good luck and still crossing my fingers it turns out great!!
 
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Bog: never too late to pick up some of those masks and most paint or hardware stores have them for $1 or less so shouldn't be too expensive. even use them when cleaning up cause i'm sure you'll have some dust on your stuff cause that dust is fine and not good for your lungs.
I will buy some masks, that's a good idea! :)

your floor is looking AWESOME. hope it finishes out as nice as it looks like it will.

also maybe a rest day for you while the cement is drying might be in order to catch up on all the lack of sleep. happy to see you got the right guys for the job and that little extra work on digging out the pit seemed like it wasn't a big deal.
Thank you! I am very satisfied with it. The garage will look a lot better when the renovation will be finished.
It wasn't that hard, but it will surely make a big difference because this way I will be able to work on two cars without removing the car on the lift.

good luck and still crossing my fingers it turns out great!!
Thank you! :p


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Thanks!

I still had a lot of rubble waiting to be put in sacks, so this was the next job.
A friend helped me today and we finished in a few hours.
I couldn't go inside the garage yet, so this was the most pressing issue.

Tomorrow I will be able to walk on the new floor, so it's time for the next step of the renovation.
I will remove the plaster and insulation on the chimney and then I will go buy some studs and install new drywall. At least, that's the plan.
I want to use these few days of not working to remove all the lights, repair all the walls, sand where needed, repair all holes or rough areas and paint all the walls and ceiling.
The guys that poured the new floor will also paint it in a few days.
I will also take care of the horrible sink corner and there will be no sink until I finish my "sink project".
I hope it will all be ready in a week.

This is the best time to do it all because everything is moved in the back of the garage and there's no lift yet.
I am so tired of planning and postponing everything for YEARS. Yes, that's right - years of planning and no results.
So it's now or never.


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Loving this thread Bogdan, keep up the good work [emoji106]

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Bog: are you bagging up all the concrete and/or dirt and old brick cause there is a curb side pick up sort of like we do for our garbage or do tell?

lots of manual labor or I call it GREAT EXERCISE and hope you won't be too sore after it's finished.

you're getting closer to getting the garage the way you've been thinking (or dreaming) about so keep up the good work.

the floor looks a little rough in the pictures so hopefully that is just the light cause it looked like your guys know what they are doing and they used a good tool for making it pretty smooth.

just curious since it's the first time i've noticed this. is the gap up there at your roofline letting any water inside your building? also it looks like that little shed might need a new or better roof especially if you've got valuable stuff in it.

keep up the great progress and I'd suggest while you are maybe getting some dust masks to also get yourself a good full face shield to protect you while you are grinding things.

here's a thread that I started more for myself, but also to teach others about safety called Safety 101 that has some very good tips in it.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338827&highlight=safety+101

one quick tip since you might have seen I use BLO (boiled linseed oil) on a lot of my old metal or wood products if you do use it make sure to dispose of the rags carefully cause they can self combust and start a fire.

good luck and looking forward to seeing you fixing a couple cars at a time in your new working space!!
 
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Thank you!

Bog: are you bagging up all the concrete and/or dirt and old brick cause there is a curb side pick up sort of like we do for our garbage or do tell?
No. I have to pay someone to come to pick them up.
This is the cheaper way. I would have got a rubble container if I would have known there would be so much rubble.
I expected half the quantity.
Tomorrow I hope they will come to pick it up. I will help with loading the sacks in the truck.

lots of manual labor or I call it GREAT EXERCISE and hope you won't be too sore after it's finished.
I look at it the same way.

you're getting closer to getting the garage the way you've been thinking (or dreaming) about so keep up the good work.
Thank you! Yes, it's getting closer. It's been a long journey.
Unfortunately it took way too long and it became very frustrating.
I hope this year will be the last renovation for quite some time.

the floor looks a little rough in the pictures so hopefully that is just the light cause it looked like your guys know what they are doing and they used a good tool for making it pretty smooth.
It's quite smooth.
We will see how it will look painted.

just curious since it's the first time i've noticed this. is the gap up there at your roofline letting any water inside your building? also it looks like that little shed might need a new or better roof especially if you've got valuable stuff in it.
That's another thing I must take care of.
That's actually a restroom.
After all will be finished inside the garage, I plan to redo the facade of the garage and the restroom.
I will add a new roof to the restroom.
There's a lot of work ahead.

keep up the great progress and I'd suggest while you are maybe getting some dust masks to also get yourself a good full face shield to protect you while you are grinding things.

here's a thread that I started more for myself, but also to teach others about safety called Safety 101 that has some very good tips in it.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338827&highlight=safety+101

one quick tip since you might have seen I use BLO (boiled linseed oil) on a lot of my old metal or wood products if you do use it make sure to dispose of the rags carefully cause they can self combust and start a fire.

good luck and looking forward to seeing you fixing a couple cars at a time in your new working space!!
Thank you!
Today I bought some dust masks.
I will read that thread. Thanks!

Update:

Today I was able to go inside the garage so the first thing to do was to identify the issues with the walls, everything that I must repair.
I made a list and then went to buy almost all that I will need for the renovation.
I returned to the garage and removed all the plaster and insulation from the chimney.
Tomorrow I will install some joists to cover the brick chimney with drywall.

I also took care of the sink corner.
I am quite satisfied with the result.
I still have to buy some aluminum trim, but other than that it's ready.
Then new pipes, a water heater and a new sink.

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The wood joists were too long to fit in the van, so I cut them at the store with a saw I have just bought. A cheap saw, but it cuts nice.

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Thanks!

Today we made a little progress with a lot of effort.
I loaded all the rubble and dirt with a helper, got a great idea from the contractor and he cut the expansion joints in the concrete floor.
The idea is not to cover the chimney with drywall but to clean it up and seal it.
It sounds like a great idea, so I began cleaning it up. It will take more time, but I hope it will look great at the end.
I like the look of exposed bricks.

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Bog: remember I mentioned a video where Coca Cola poured onto battery terminals would clean them right up? well before i ever heard of that I heard that Coke worked great getting soot or burn marks off of brick on fireplaces. I'm not sure how you want to finish it off so you don't have gaps and hole, but i'll leave that up to you and I like the idea.

great job getting the old debris bagged and off the property. VERY WELL DONE!!

i'm guessing that's your concrete guy cutting the cement without a mask? tell him if he wants to survive all this work to grow old and happy he needs to protect his lungs with a mask or maybe a respirator since he does this all the time.

keep up the great work and loving the progress.

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Bogdan, I agree -- the exposed brick is great look on that wall. Might also be a little safer than an open space behind the drywall.
It might look great, but it all depends on the execution.
I hope I will be able to make it look ok. It's the first time I try something like that.

Bog: remember I mentioned a video where Coca Cola poured onto battery terminals would clean them right up? well before i ever heard of that I heard that Coke worked great getting soot or burn marks off of brick on fireplaces. I'm not sure how you want to finish it off so you don't have gaps and hole, but i'll leave that up to you and I like the idea.

great job getting the old debris bagged and off the property. VERY WELL DONE!!

i'm guessing that's your concrete guy cutting the cement without a mask? tell him if he wants to survive all this work to grow old and happy he needs to protect his lungs with a mask or maybe a respirator since he does this all the time.

keep up the great work and loving the progress.

cheers

Yes, I remember. I also use Coca Cola to clean engine compartmens. I began by cleaning everything with brake cleaner. Then a wipe with Coca Cola leaves everything looking super clean. The issue with brake cleaner is that it leaves a greyish tint on plastics. Coca Cola
removes any brake cleaner residue.

I will try it, but I will also use a wire brush.

Thanks!

I will tell him. In my country, people don't really care about safety unless someone enforces safety rules.

Cheers! :)

Today's update:

I installed some aluminum trim in the corner.
Then I worked on the chimney. I had a helper, so it went quicker.
It's not ready, but I am happy I was able to cover all the holes and I realised the soot was caused by the lack of mortar. A lot of mortar was crumbling and a few bricks were loose.
I also began pressure washing the concrete exterior yard.
I will continue work tomorrow.

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Bog: your first effort at brick and mortar looks great. remember to seal up the sides with drywall mud, caulk or maybe even mortar might work to keep bugs from getting behind your walls or up in your attic.

not sure if you have any bugs, but if you have ants buy this cheap powder to put along the edge of the foundation outside and in areas inside if you see the little guys making a path. these drops work pretty good too if you just need to set up a few traps. not saying you do have ants and just in case you have some sort of bugs it pays to do preventative instead of repairs later cause a lot of them are wood eaters.

remember to try and use your masks when mixing cement, mortar or cutting or breaking it up cause that dust won't do your lungs any favors. ok?

keep up the great work and it's looking better every day now.

cheers
 

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