New Wilton 600S 6-inch machinist vise, under $1k

General Geoff · Mar 11, 2018

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0008JF9MW/?tag=atomicindus08-20

For anyone who's been saving their pennies for a brand new, large-caliber bullet vise, right now they're going for $962.73 and free shipping (pretty good for a vise that weighs 150lbs).

As of right now there are only 3 in stock.

volunteers · Mar 12, 2018

i bought this one a couple of months ago from zoro. it was $999 after the 20% coupon, better than amazon plus tax. it is a huge vise.

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General Geoff · Mar 12, 2018

Now down to $914!

meatsis · Mar 12, 2018

General Geoff said:
Now down to $914!

Still way too much for that vise!

General Geoff · Mar 12, 2018

meatsis said:
Still way too much for that vise!

For someone who collects vises, maybe, but not for a business or individual who needs a brand new WORKING vise with a lifetime warranty, that's the strongest available.

LXCam · Mar 12, 2018

meatsis said:
Still way too much for that vise!

I have a 600N and beg to differ. I'd pay that in a heartbeat if I needed a vise of this caliber

meatsis · Mar 12, 2018

I’ve had 5 different Wilton 600’s all equipped with the swivel base. Each one was barely ever used still in mint condition. The most I ever paid was $125.
My main vise on my bench is a 6” Rock Island #597. I once swapped out the RI for a 600s just to see how well it works. It didn’t last a week on my bench. For the kind of work I do, the big flat shape of the jaw towers was awful. But what really made me take it off the bench, was the fact that they just don’t hold anything when you really need it to. If you have to hammer on something while it’s in the vise, you want it to stay put. The bigger Wilton’s don’t do that. When I clamp something in the RI, I know it’s not going anywhere.
Before I mounted the 600, I tried a really nice C2. That vise was even worse. They just don’t hold the objects like they should. Especially for the amount of money they cost. I’m not trying to bash the Wilton’s in any kind of way. I’m just speaking from my own experience. I do have a small, very early Wilton no.3 for light duty work. The small ones are nice. The bigger ones not so much.

General Geoff · Mar 12, 2018

The lack of grip may be as simple as the jaw face pattern/texture, particularly in comparison to your Rock Island. Basic clamping force is derived from the length of the handle and thread pitch of the main screw, it's not rocket science, so there are very few other variables.

Ww7573 · Mar 12, 2018

meatsis said:
I’ve had 5 different Wilton 600’s all equipped with the swivel base. Each one was barely ever used still in mint condition. The most I ever paid was $125.
My main vise on my bench is a 6” Rock Island #597. I once swapped out the RI for a 600s just to see how well it works. It didn’t last a week on my bench. For the kind of work I do, the big flat shape of the jaw towers was awful. But what really made me take it off the bench, was the fact that they just don’t hold anything when you really need it to. If you have to hammer on something while it’s in the vise, you want it to stay put. The bigger Wilton’s don’t do that. When I clamp something in the RI, I know it’s not going anywhere.
Before I mounted the 600, I tried a really nice C2. That vise was even worse. They just don’t hold the objects like they should. Especially for the amount of money they cost. I’m not trying to bash the Wilton’s in any kind of way. I’m just speaking from my own experience. I do have a small, very early Wilton no.3 for light duty work. The small ones are nice. The bigger ones not so much.

Where are you buying these for $125 or less?????????

meatsis · Mar 12, 2018

General Geoff said:
The lack of grip may be as simple as the jaw face pattern/texture, particularly in comparison to your Rock Island. Basic clamping force is derived from the length of the handle and thread pitch of the main screw, it's not rocket science, so there are very few other variables.

Nope definitely not rocket science.

Hey if you like them, that’s great. I just can’t see how $1000 is a good deal. Especially for that vise.

General Geoff · Mar 12, 2018

meatsis said:
Nope definitely not rocket science.

Hey if you like them, that’s great. I just can’t see how $1000 is a good deal. Especially for that vise.

If you have found several of them over the years for $125 or less, I can completely understand your perspective!

Most people will never ever find an excellent condition 600S or 600N for anywhere near that price though.

And a lot of people just prefer to buy new for the warranty and piece of mind in knowing how the vise has been treated since day one.

z2w · Mar 12, 2018

General Geoff said:
The lack of grip may be as simple as the jaw face pattern/texture, particularly in comparison to your Rock Island. Basic clamping force is derived from the length of the handle and thread pitch of the main screw, it's not rocket science, so there are very few other variables.

I'm no expert, but it seems like the mechanical advantage side of things goes out the window when you start hammering on the vise, and you're depending on the the screw maintaining friction with the nut despite the hammering.

General Geoff · Mar 12, 2018

z2w said:
I'm no expert, but it seems like the mechanical advantage side of things goes out the window when you start hammering on the vise, and you're depending on the the screw maintaining friction with the nut despite the hammering.

The vibrations from repeated hammering can eventually cause the workpiece to become loose, but usually that's due to workpiece deformation and not the vise loosening up.

justtools · Mar 12, 2018

Ww7573 said:
Where are you buying these for $125 or less?????????

Better yet. I will let you double your money and pay shipping to send me one..

LXCam · Mar 12, 2018

justtools said:
Better yet. I will let you double your money and pay shipping to send me one..

I'll see your double and double that. After years of looking for a deal I was very happy to pay 5 bills for mine and another hundy for new jaws to replace the smooth ones it had. I don't know where those deals are found but I have my doubts about the condition at that price. Considering I've wailed on mine without issue I don't know what to think.

justtools · Mar 12, 2018

I suppose it is the area. If there is lots of mfg around they may come available. If you wish to hear a sad tale on wilton vises. My buddy worked at northwest airlines. When they were bought by Delta they did not wish to have anything that said northwest on them. He said they retired at least a 100 wilton vises to the scrap metal pile.

meatsis · Mar 13, 2018

LXCam said:
I'll see your double and double that. After years of looking for a deal I was very happy to pay 5 bills for mine and another hundy for new jaws to replace the smooth ones it had. I don't know where those deals are found but I have my doubts about the condition at that price. Considering I've wailed on mine without issue I don't know what to think.

You can have all the doubts you want. But when I say they were in mint condition, I mean they were like new. Still with the original paint an all. I have over 150 vises currently in the shop right now so I know the difference between mint and beat up. Here’s the C2 I was referring to. Are you gonna argue that it’s not in mint condition. I deleted all the pictures of most of the Wilton’s I’ve sold because I don’t see any reason to save them. They don’t excite me at all and they all look the same. But I assure you they were in the same condition as this C2 if not better.

exmaxima1 · Mar 13, 2018

meatsis said:
Here’s the C2 I was referring to. Are you gonna argue that it’s not in mint condition.

That's not the current version of the C2. The newest ones built after around 1999 are very stout and the machining is arguably the tightest and best ever supplied by Wilton. My C2 grips and doesn't let go.

That said, I still really prefer my Paramo No. 6 for my shop bench at work. The jaws have a tighter edge and the swivel lock is painlessly easy.

meatsis · Mar 13, 2018

exmaxima1 said:
That's not the current version of the C2. The newest ones built after around 1999 are very stout and the machining is arguably the tightest and best ever supplied by Wilton. My C2 grips and doesn't let go.

That said, I still really prefer my Paramo No. 6 for my shop bench at work. The jaws have a tighter edge and the swivel lock is painlessly easy.

I never said it was a current C2. This one is from 92.

I’ve had a newer C2 and a C3 as well. Wasn’t impressed by either.

rallenc · Mar 13, 2018

$872 now.

volunteers · Mar 13, 2018

rallenc said:
$872 now.

now it is better than i bought at $999 with no tax. i like to buy new vise, and have no interest to restore the old ones.

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dkroth · Mar 13, 2018

volunteers said:
now it is better than i bought at $999 with no tax. i like to buy new vise, and have no interest to restore the old ones.

I like to use new vises and collect old vises.

.

dcummer · Mar 15, 2018

rallenc said:
$872 now.

Sitting at $830 now. With Prime free shipping and a 5% Prime charge card it's a little less than $790.

General Geoff · Mar 15, 2018

They're all gone now!

Bottlecapdigger · Mar 15, 2018

General Geoff said:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0008JF9MW/?tag=atomicindus08-20

For anyone who's been saving their pennies for a brand new, large-caliber bullet vise, right now they're going for $962.73 and free shipping (pretty good for a vise that weighs 150lbs).

As of right now there are only 3 in stock.[/150 lbs psh, thats a baby, I use a 230lbs starrett. bcd QUOTE]

Ww7573 · Mar 15, 2018

Let's not forget how Amazon likes to ship vises...

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6983166&postcount=2108

csampson · Mar 15, 2018

I bought a new 5 1/2” Wilton bullet vise last week from here

https://www.ntxtools.com/network-tool-warehouse/WIL-63200A.html

$320 after coupon with free shipping and free sledgehammer.

Not as big of a vise as the 6” but perhaps a better deal.

General Geoff · Mar 16, 2018

The 1755, while a fine vise for most users, is not really comparable to the 600S. The 600S is fully three times the mass of the 1755 (50lbs vs 150lbs). Kinda like comparing an F-150 to a Kenworth.

exmaxima1 · Mar 16, 2018

Ww7573 said:
Let's not forget how Amazon likes to ship vises...

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6983166&postcount=2108

In all fairness to Amazon, that base sure looks thin and that shipping board looks more like a third-party effort.

dcummer · Mar 16, 2018

Ww7573 said:
Let's not forget how Amazon likes to ship vises...

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6983166&postcount=2108

That deal with the 500s damaged in shipping wasn’t that bad. OP paid $420.24 (plus tax) and received 500s with a broken Outer Ring 1011980. OP says Amazon offered $40 discount for shipping damage. A new 500s Outer Ring 1011980 is $53.50 from Wilton Parts or $60.99 from ereplacementparts. So for around $450 (plus tax) that damaged 500s could have been back in service, still a great price.

New Wilton 600S 6-inch machinist vise, under $1k

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