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vavet

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I acquired some lateral file cabinets from my workplace a couple months ago. We're doing some remodeling/reorganizing, so they were free. I figured I'll paint them up in some bold colors and use them for garage storage.

First I start with sanding, then rinsing/washing. Last night I primed the cabinet shells, but not the drawers. Next I have to actually paint.

I hate the whole process of painting. Its a commitment for a long-delayed return. With other projects/processes, you do something and it's done. With this, you invest time in several different steps and you have to wait between the steps. You're also making a commitment when you start a step that you can finish that step - like using a roller or brush. You can't just set it down and come back several hours later and pick up where you left off.

I'm the same way with painting a room in the house. I hate it. I hate spending money to hire a pro for something I can do myself, but for painting, I usually hire it out. I hate it that much.

I keep telling myself they'll look great when I'm done, but man, it's a long road.
 
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I have been in the renovation business for 30 years and I am still amazed how fast a good painter can paint out a room or even a floor of a house. Even with the prep work. It's hard to be a jack of every trade. No shame in hiring out some work from time to time.
 

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Me too OP. I hate it with a passion. I do a great job but everyone in my house knows to stay clear if I've got to do it. When it comes to a really big job like repainting the exterior of the house I'll hire out just to save the aggravation, but the smaller stuff i hate spending the money. And when it comes to metal work I normally choose to powder coat if possible, but I'll still pull out the guns when needed but I don't like it - not one little bit. :p
 
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I don’t mind painting. If you can cut in with a brush you can roll a room in short order. For your cabinets I would have pulled out the gun


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I feel your pain. I bought a really cool lateral file with barrister style flapper doors for $75 a couple years ago. Great condition except the paint. I spent hours prepping it and then made the fatal decision to paint it with “paint + primer in one” spray bombs. First coat went on great. Waited 48 hours as directed to recoat. Second coat lifted the first coat and I had a blistered mess. I was not a happy camper. Ended up sanding it all down again. Lesson learned, no more “all in one” spray bombs. Etching primer FTW.
 

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I purchased a Graco Magnum airless paint sprayer..... I will say it makes painting **** infinitely less... Granted, you can't really paint a room unless you empty it, mask the floors and ceiling, etc. ( overspray goes EVERYWHERE).

I've used it to paint cabinets several times, and I will NEVER paint them with a brush or roller ever again... I painted an entire kitchen cabinet set in several hours ( granted there was drying time in between).
 

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I have been in the renovation business for 30 years and I am still amazed how fast a good painter can paint out a room or even a floor of a house. Even with the prep work. It's hard to be a jack of every trade. No shame in hiring out some work from time to time.

My parents got a quote to paint the interior here since there moving. All the quotes were around $10k

My dad wasn’t hearing that. 2 months later they’ve got the in law suite done. Still have the rest of the House left.
 

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Me too OP. I hate it with a passion. I do a great job but everyone in my house knows to stay clear if I've got to do it. When it comes to a really big job like repainting the exterior of the house I'll hire out just to save the aggravation, but the smaller stuff i hate spending the money. And when it comes to metal work I normally choose to powder coat if possible, but I'll still pull out the guns when needed but I don't like it - not one little bit. :p

Pretty much verbatim for me too...

Sometime I will do a quick butcher job like these cabinets, quick sand, quick rinse, even quicker roller paint job. They look good from about 6' away.

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For being garage storage, I would have just given them a decent scuffing to knock off any loose paint / rust. Wiped down with a microfiber cloth, then sprayed them (outside)... and done.

Unless I'm doing something real nice, I don't even bother with good brushes. Usually a foam brush does just fine, and in-between coats I will wrap it in a damp paper towel and in a zip-lock bag. Then when I'm done painting I just throw it away. I'll also find decent brushes dirt cheap at estate sales which depending on their quality can be throw-away.

I don't mind prep or painting. I hate cleaning out brushes, especially oil-based.
 

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I really like to paint... But the prep work is getting old. Recently while painting kitchen cabinets white I used regular automotive spray gun with a compressor. Worked well when the weather cooperated. Tried a Wagner sprayer and the harbor freight copy. Then rented a TIP HVLP sprayer for the boxes in the house. This worked well but was expensive. $125 for the week which included the gun, since no one cleans a gun sufficiently for the next guy. Then I needed to finish a few more items and found the Harbor Freight copy of the TIP sprayer. It worked better than the TIP setup as it came with three sizes of needles allowing me to get good atomization with the sherwin Williams paint.

https://www.harborfreight.com/high-volume-low-pressure-spray-gun-kit-44677.html

Might let you dislike painting just a little bit, and would have worked great on garage cabinets.
 
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For me, I don't know what I hate more. Painting or moving,

Moving...for sure. Actually, I’m not sure if it’s the buying, selling, negotiating, dealing with inept realtors and mortgage people....or the actual moving. It all *****.

Anyway, figured I would post the first of the fruits of my labor. This is a small file cabinet I used to figure out if priming was important or not. It is. I used the same Rust-Oleum paint applied with a foam roller as I used on the big lateral file cabinets, the drawer faces are painted with a Rust-Oleum hammered silver paint. The lateral cabinet drawers will be painted with black chalkboard paint. The drawer handles are cheap units from big orange. I like the contrast between with red, hammered silver, and black handles. The before color was a terrible blue. Mom bought this unit new about 30 years ago and used it for general household file keeping for several years. Somehow, I got it for my report cards when I was in high school and it stayed with me through college, Army, and several moves,
 

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I like to paint, I hate the prep.

Since a good paint job is 98% prep, I guess I actually hate painting after all
 

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I also dislike painting. What I hate even more is wall papering. My wife used to schedule this task when I went on a golf tournament. Appears her Mom liked to wall paper. Go figure!
 

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I hate painting in a house. I enjoy painting tools and equipment. I must, as machine refurbishment is my main hobby. On file cabinets I sand with a 40 grit orbital to remove all paint, wipe down with naptha, use naptha for a thinner, roll paint on with a foam cabinet roller, brush nooks and crannies, no primer. I have never had bad results with this method. All other parts get blasted, primed, painted, unless I decide to sand a larger piece.
 

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Painting is 95% prep -- prepping the surfaces, laying down the tarps (acquiring the tarps), having step ladders, good quality brushes (Purdy, Wooster), right amount of paint.

I was helping a friend paint his new house. A guy had loaned him a scaffolding thing on wheels. He sat up there painting, and I dragged him around the rooms so he could paint the high walls throughout the living room, dining room, family room. Made quick work of it.

I think most amateurs (me included) hate painting because we don't have all the fancy tools and equipment that the pro's have. lol.
 

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I really like to paint... But the prep work is getting old. Recently while painting kitchen cabinets white I used regular automotive spray gun with a compressor. Worked well when the weather cooperated. Tried a Wagner sprayer and the harbor freight copy. Then rented a TIP HVLP sprayer for the boxes in the house. This worked well but was expensive. $125 for the week which included the gun, since no one cleans a gun sufficiently for the next guy. Then I needed to finish a few more items and found the Harbor Freight copy of the TIP sprayer. It worked better than the TIP setup as it came with three sizes of needles allowing me to get good atomization with the sherwin Williams paint.

https://www.harborfreight.com/high-volume-low-pressure-spray-gun-kit-44677.html

Might let you dislike painting just a little bit, and would have worked great on garage cabinets.
I'll take your word for it that it woked well. Based on the video with Pat using it I would definitely pass. The coverge in the video is terrible. He couldn't lay down a solid pass without having to constantly go back to fill in. If he was not set up correctly that is sure bad advertising. Usually the product works worse than the demo, not better.

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I hate painting in a house. I enjoy painting tools and equipment. I must, as machine refurbishment is my main hobby. On file cabinets I sand with a 40 grit orbital to remove all paint, wipe down with naptha, use naptha for a thinner, roll paint on with a foam cabinet roller, brush nooks and crannies, no primer. I have never had bad results with this method. All other parts get blasted, primed, painted, unless I decide to sand a larger piece.

Why naptha and not mineral spirits?
 

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I love painting, hate the prep work. To bad the prep is 95% of it

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Why naptha and not mineral spirits?

I learned the hard way about mineral spirits for reducer. My maintenance crew painted some steel doors in the factory and they just did not want to dry. The handprints people left in them made a mess. I called Sherwin Williams and they suggested using Varnish Maker's and Painter's Naptha. VM&P. Once I tried it I never looked back. Dries paint like it should.

My son paints his machinery parts using xylene with hammer finish paint, and he is bolting parts back on within a few hours time. I have not tried that or acetone yet.
 
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I've never used Xylene. But talking about Naptha vs Mineral Spirits, naphtha makes paint dry faster than MS and is stronger so you would end up using less of it to thin the same amount vs MS.

I've never tried thinning with acetone, as fast as it evaporates and as slow as I work I would probably end up with a mess. Probably MEK (the real stuff, not the substitute) would be a better choice (for me) as it doesn't evaporate as fast.
 

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I learned the hard way about mineral spirits for reducer. My maintenance crew painted some steel doors in the factory and they just did not want to dry. The handprints people left in them made a mess. I called Sherwin Williams and they suggested using Varnish Maker's and Painter's Naptha. VM&P. Once I tried it I never looked back. Dries paint like it should.

My son paints his machinery parts using xylene with hammer finish paint, and he is bolting parts back on within a few hours time. I have not tried that or acetone yet.
When I repainted the base of my old Rockwell bandsaw, the OEM paint called for xylene as the spray solvent. It is one of the slower drying solvents. Good results.

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Hate both prep, paint and finish. It is messy, repetitive and time consuming. Nothing worse than having paints react or not cure to ruin your day. So much so I'd redesign stuff to not need prep or paint where possible or use the simplest paint process possible. Otherwise I'll make it if they paint it.

I used to have a sheet of plywood fixed to the rafters near the large roller door to form the ceiling with rails around the outside that I can hang cheap plastic dropcloth as a makeshift spraybooth. Even then I hated the waste, the cleanup, dealing with solvents etc. I'm a big fan of mini rollers now.
 

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I like painting walls. We did a good job with my children when painted walls in their room. We was creative and it was cool!
 
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