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Watch this saw review and cringe

dwasifar

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How does this guy still have all his fingers?


Makes me think of this:

 
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The Fall

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My dad's been a cabinetmaker since 1968. I've worked for the shop full time since 2007; been around it since I was a kid in the late '80s. We've had two table saw accidents in my lifetime. I took one person to the ER. It wasn't bad -- stitches and some physical therapy. The other happened around 2004. That one was horrible. Both guys had over a decade of experience. Great assemblers.

We have a Delta and two Saw Stops. I'm not interested in retracing the litigation of the latter, but I'm glad they exist.
 

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He's a flooring guy. Keep in mind, it was a flooring guy who got the breakthrough product liability case against table saws. Maybe this bozo is hoping to cash in himself?
 

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He literally made two push sticks. Uh uh not me. Hands are too important to chance


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Lamakocklee

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It didn't seem all that bad.. I don't have an guard on my saw but I do have a snap in splitter. It's the potential binding on the back half of the blade and or if the wood catches the back portion of the blade that causes a kickback. I didn't see a splitter on that saw.

He did use a push stick when resawing that little piece.. I was thinking he wasn't going to uses a push stick.. but he did... Chicken! :lol_hitti
 

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The guy keeps saying "This is a real life review, there are no guards on this saw"...

Good for you. Had a neighbor growing up, a cabinetmaker named Smitty, who had 3 fingers on one hand, 2 on the other... IIRC they were all from saw accidents. My guess is eventually mister finger-pusher will eventually be the shop teacher we all referred to as "stumpy"... Not for his lack of guards, but his failure of luck that he's had so far.
 

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As Emo may have said at some point:
"Complacency is the devil's playground"

Nothing in that video that comes close to the all-day, every-day horror show of the traveling Forrest saw blade demos at woodworking shows. Pencil eraser was the only safety device--used only to flick crazy small cut-offs out of the way before they could be caught by the back of the blade. WAY too much trust of a cheap portable desktop saw on a folding table.
 
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bbrins

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I've had a guard stick like that before. I'm lucky that it ate the cord before it got around to my foot. These days, I make sure that the guard has closed and that the blade has pretty much stopped before I set it down.
Hey dwasifar! Here you go. You'll like this. :D


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dwasifar

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I've had a guard stick like that before. I'm lucky that it ate the cord before it got around to my foot. These days, I make sure that the guard has closed and that the blade has pretty much stopped before I set it down.

I've been doing framing in my basement all afternoon, and you better believe I'm watching to make sure the guard is working after seeing that video.
 

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The circular saw vid is a little fake. If the saw took off like that it would skip right over the boot. It would almost definitely leave some teeth marks in the boot, and possibly get deep enough to cause a minor injury to the foot, but it would take some weight on it to get it to cut that deep into the foot, more than just the weight of the saw itself. Not trying to downplay how unsafe that is but when they exaggerate what might happen like that reminds me of the anti-pot propaganda they used to show us in school. It was so ridiculously over the top all their efforts were wasted.

They could have made it more realistic and had it hit the toe of the boot straight on and try to run up his pants leg. The ankle and shin would not fare very well like that.
 

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He's a flooring guy. Keep in mind, it was a flooring guy who got the breakthrough product liability case against table saws. Maybe this bozo is hoping to cash in himself?

The injury lawsuit that was seen as a victory for Sawstop wasn’t exactly the same.
Osorio, the guy at the center of the lawsuit who injured his hand, wasn’t trained as a “flooring guy”, or as a carpenter, cabinetmaker, or in any way as a woodworker. He was working as a flooring guy because that was the kind of work he could find.

Osorio had also not read the manual for the saw he was using, which given some of the points the guy in the above video made, is likely not the case in the above video.

While Osorio was not using the guards on the tablesaw he was using, like the guy in the above video, Osorio was also not using the saws rip femce or miter gage, and was simply freehand cutting, UNLIKE the guy in the above video.

The Skilsaw worm drive tablesaw also has a riving knife behind the blade, unlike the saw Osorio was using, although I couldn’t tell if the guy in the above video had the riving knife in the saw. It looked like he may not have.

Some of the stuff the guy in the video did was cringe worthy, like vertically cutting the piece of thin flooring in half, and pushing the thick piece of wood past the blade and having to catch ot. The skillsaw should probably have some sort of outfeed table in the back for that. A zero clearance insert for the tabletop blade opening would also be safer. If the riving knife was on the saw, vertically cutting the flooring wouldn’t have been too unsafe though.
 

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in the mid-'80s I took a 3 day woodworking seminar given by Tage Frid. he was doing a tablesaw demonstration and the slender piece being trapped between the blade & fence shot backwards and put a ding in the sheetrock wall about six feet behind the group.

as we all winced, Frid never missed a beat with his presentation. I also think his favorite push tool was an icepick, so maybe the Danes like to live on the edge.
 
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