Alternative to bendpak rj45 rolling jack?

[jcar302]

Hey guys, i'm back on the idea of getting a rolling or sliding bridge jack for my bendpak hd7p 4 post lift.

Problem is that 2-3 years ago you could get it for $950 shipped.
Now, it's pretty much $1200.
On top of that the car I work on most is my foxbody mustang.
Best jacking points is the subframe connectors. The floors and pinch weld are pretty fragile so I prefer to only jack up from the subframe connectors
I don't think the rj45 goes that narrow and appears you need a pedestal kit that goes on the center bar for another $300.
The subframe connectors are just about 31 on center apart.
If that is how it is, i'd be in this thing $1500.

I'm by no means cheap, but with a 1 year old and a bun in the oven, the $950 i planned on spending was already stretching the toy fund. I don't want to add a third to that number.

I've seen other slide jacks for $500 to about $950, some of which go narrow similar to this one: http://www.completehydraulic.com/lifts-bridge-jacks-clsbj4.html

Any thoughts?

I'm not going to use it professionally, so the manual pump doesn't bother me. Says it had protection for sliding although i read here the sandpaper painted ramps may make it tougher to slide.

I have the jp3 jacking tray already and i don't love it. I had to have it modified by a friend because it wasn't level with the runways because the jack stands need to be half on half off of it. I also had him weld a rail on because i didn't trust the stands weren't going to slide off. It will be good later with a bridge jack, for putting the stands on, but as a jacking point, i just don't feel that safe.

 

[a52-830]

I've seen other slide jacks for $500 to about $950, some of which go narrow similar to this one: http://www.completehydraulic.com/lifts-bridge-jacks-clsbj4.html

i am in the same position, but with a hd9 rather than a hd7. (and my kids are older).


that is a pretty good looking unit, and not outrageously priced, although the shipping is potentially a big deal.


what others did you find? i looked around a bit, but i didnt find this one, and wonder what others you found.

 

[joel]

I have a HD-9 and, like you, was concerned about the cost of adding RJ-45's. I bit the bullet and bought two of them with my lift. They fit great (important for clearance on low ground clearance cars). They roll super easy with the ball bearing wheels. And they reach virtually anywhere across the vehicle when combined with the adapter kit. In the past, I have improvised many a time when lifting vehicles. Without question, getting the HD9 with a pair of RJ45's and adapter kits was pricey, but it is super convenient and safe.

 

[jcar302]

i am in the same position, but with a hd9 rather than a hd7. (and my kids are older).


that is a pretty good looking unit, and not outrageously priced, although the shipping is potentially a big deal.


what others did you find? i looked around a bit, but i didnt find this one, and wonder what others you found.

I'll call tomorrow to see how hard i'd get hit with shipping.

http://www.redlinestands.com/catalo...-bridge-jack-for-7k-9k-lb-storage-lifts-p-485

That's another one I had book marked, I probably have seen another half dozen or so. Just search sliding bridge jack, and rolling bridge jack. The rolling ones always add another couple hundred bucks and I think they are less likely to fit as universal.

edit: Here's another. For me it could work out well, since you pay less if you pick it up and it's only an hour from me.
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-RJ-35-Sliding-Jack

 

[jcar302]

I have a HD-9 and, like you, was concerned about the cost of adding RJ-45's. I bit the bullet and bought two of them with my lift. They fit great (important for clearance on low ground clearance cars). They roll super easy with the ball bearing wheels. And they reach virtually anywhere across the vehicle when combined with the adapter kit. In the past, I have improvised many a time when lifting vehicles. Without question, getting the HD9 with a pair of RJ45's and adapter kits was pricey, but it is super convenient and safe.

I don't doubt what you are saying and I usually like to stay brand inclusive, but $1500 just isn't what I want to spend right now on something I don't absolutely need.
If it can be done more economically and I only have to make a few minor concessions, i'd rather save the money, especially on something I will only use a few times a year.

Most sliding jacks (if not all) I've found go low enough to get under my car, i'll assume for some the sliding jack may have to go all the way to the front for when I pull the car on, but I can live with that.

 

[bobabuee]

well here my 2 cents ,other members going to say not going to work .. because it slides on runway and runways of bendpak lifts are skid resistant . the BP jacks roll on channel attached below runway i have not tried but for half the price cant go wrong as long as adjustable width of the jack fits in run way it can slide on the wheel channel of course might loose couple inches height going from the top runway to bottom but safety and stability still there so i dont see problem with it. its not plug play but will work and save cash to put go fast parts on your fox body, food and diapers on the kids. too many on the board have no thought process.. dont like to save money i say go for it. if you dont have cash now at least buy the hf 2ton safety stands this get you by for 160.00 its what i use for time being. you can build your own with 12 ton air jack c channel angle some tube & welder for $300.00 if you have some skills.

 

[Bsj04]

Dannmar makes rolling jacks that are identical to bendpak but a few hundred cheaper. My 6k jack was $999 shipped from summit a few months ago. I imagine the 4500 is a little cheaper. I use 4"x4" wood blocks when I need to jack something in the middle and they work good.

 

[Bsj04]

https://m.summitracing.com/parts/dmr-1375901

 

[a52-830]

Dannmar makes rolling jacks that are identical to bendpak but a few hundred cheaper. My 6k jack was $999 shipped from summit a few months ago. I imagine the 4500 is a little cheaper. I use 4"x4" wood blocks when I need to jack something in the middle and they work good.

none of the online images really show the "rolling" part very well. how does it interface with the channel on the inside of the bendpak ramps?

 

[Kaizen]

I think i'd be pulling out my welder and fabbing one up for that price. couple hundred bucks of steel and two floor jacks. don't see a need for the scissor setup

 

[the GOAT]

https://www.eagleequip.com/automotive-shop-equipment/sliding-bridge-jacks.html

http://www.autoequipmentdepot.com/4-post-lift-accessories/pk-j5m.html

 

[jcar302]

Thanks for all the input guys.
I've seen most of these, problem is for me, none go narrow enough.
With the frame being about 31 on center apart, most slide jacks don't go nearly that narrow. Close would probably be good enough since the frame is about 2 inches wide per side, but I don't think 35+ inches would work right. Not sure how I feel about the wood on the jack. I guess that could work.

I'm really curious as to how well the slide jacks would slide on the bendpak ramps, on a scale of 1 to 10, what's the effort needed?
I'm a pretty big guy, so if it just takes some size and weight, that's ok.
But if I have to leg press it to get it to move, that's not so ok.

I have a welder, but i'm missing the skills to build something I would stand under without wheels on it. I know my limits, lol.

My last option would be to forget about the width issue and put jacking rails on the car, I do have a set and they are meant for jacking, but i'm afraid to soley rely on them. Fox mustangs really have a lot of soft spots you can damage. I guess the good part would be that both sides would be lifted equally and level.
http://store.kennybrown.com/product...1993-and-2005-2014-mustang-boss-302-and-gt500

 

[the GOAT]

Here's a vid of the atlas sliding jack... Doesn't look too hard to position.

 

[jcar302]

Here's a vid of the atlas sliding jack... Doesn't look too hard to position.

Thanks, I didn't know they had a video.
Looks like it has pads already on the center bar too.

 

[bry@n]

I have a HD-9 and, like you, was concerned about the cost of adding RJ-45's. I bit the bullet and bought two of them with my lift. They fit great (important for clearance on low ground clearance cars). They roll super easy with the ball bearing wheels. And they reach virtually anywhere across the vehicle when combined with the adapter kit. In the past, I have improvised many a time when lifting vehicles. Without question, getting the HD9 with a pair of RJ45's and adapter kits was pricey, but it is super convenient and safe.

what extenders or adapters are you guys referencing?

 

[jcar302]

I just talked to the guys at gregsmith, this one meets the fitment of my lift (rails are on the bottom of my lift).
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-RJ-6000-Rolling-Jack

The unknown is how high it will sit.

Regardless, I put my jacking tray under the low point on my car (the exhaust mid pipe) I think no matter what slide or rolling jack I use, it's going to be a problem. I will probably have to modify it or use wood to get over it. Either way, not a deal breaker.

That jack picked up in person, no tax (i'm in NJ, it's in Delaware) is $780.

Nice thing about this rolling jack is the pads on the center piece for lifting.
Would be a rough savings of $700 over the BP.

 

[jcar302]

what extenders or adapters are you guys referencing?

Here's what i'm talking about.
It's needed because the bendpak only really goes wide without them.

http://www.bendpak.com/RJ-45_Adapter_Kit.pdf

Adds a few hundred to an already expensive project.

 

[BMW Rider]

I have a Bendpak HD9 lift and wanted a rolling bridge jack for it to work on my 79 Fox as well. I too found the Bendpak unit to be a bit steep so I found this one, which is very much the same as the alternative you found. Half the cost of the Bendpak and I was able to pick it up locally, so no shipping costs either.

As mentioned, the Bendpak no skid deck would not allow the jck to slide as it was designed, so I added rollers to it.

I made the trucks for the rollers and then welded on the mounting tabs to the jack. the trucks are spring mounted so the as you jack the car, the jack settles down onto the original mount tabs. I did remove the nylon sliders from those as they seemed to be of no more use. I've used the jack a lot building the car and it's worked very well. Can't imagine having had to do all the work I did without it.


I still have a bit more work to do on the Mustang.

 

[jcar302]

I have a Bendpak HD9 lift and wanted a rolling bridge jack for it to work on my 79 Fox as well. I too found the Bendpak unit to be a bit steep so I found this one, which is very much the same as the alternative you found. Half the cost of the Bendpak and I was able to pick it up locally, so no shipping costs either.

As mentioned, the Bendpak no skid deck would not allow the jck to slide as it was designed, so I added rollers to it.

I made the trucks for the rollers and then welded on the mounting tabs to the jack. the trucks are spring mounted so the as you jack the car, the jack settles down onto the original mount tabs. I did remove the nylon sliders from those as they seemed to be of no more use. I've used the jack a lot building the car and it's worked very well. Can't imagine having had to do all the work I did without it.

Looks great, but right now that's beyond my welding skills. I'm hoping this year to be able to make a horseshoe Christmas tree that stays together, lol.
I figured somebody budget orientated had to have modded a cheaper slide jack but didn't find it in searches.
Fox is looking good too.

At $780 picked up, I may not have to worry though about modifying it. Just have to confirm how far above ramp will be the minimum.

 

[a52-830]

Looks great, but right now that's beyond my welding skills.

i am in the same situation, but realize that the failure is that the wheels you welded on get destroyed. the flange that sits on the ramp is still there, so it shouldn't crush you, just scare the sh*t out of you when it happens.

but it does look like work, and expense of finding the wheels and axles.

I'm hoping this year to be able to make a horseshoe Christmas tree that stays together, lol.

i have been meaning to get an old metal frame from a wreath, and use that as a guide to make a horseshoe wreath. am i showing my age to say i remember punchcard wreaths?

 

[BMW Rider]

i am in the same situation, but realize that the failure is that the wheels you welded on get destroyed. the flange that sits on the ramp is still there, so it shouldn't crush you, just scare the sh*t out of you when it happens.

but it does look like work, and expense of finding the wheels and axles.



i have been meaning to get an old metal frame from a wreath, and use that as a guide to make a horseshoe wreath. am i showing my age to say i remember punchcard wreaths?

I made the wheels on my lathe, so can't help with a source for them aside from making your own. They are solid steel so I doubt they will ever fail. The wheels only bear the weight of the jack when it is not lifting. They are mounted on springs so that the jack settles down onto the original plates as soon as the jack starts to lift the car. That also serves to prevent the jack from rolling once it is weighted.

 

[JimTMich]

Direct lift has a rolling jack. Not positive yet if it fits the bend pak. http://www.directlift.com/Pro-Jack-4500-P56C18.aspx

 

[jcar302]

Direct lift has a rolling jack. Not positive yet if it fits the bend pak. http://www.directlift.com/Pro-Jack-4500-P56C18.aspx

I've seen that one, but I've yet to understand the vertical wheel on it.
Hard to tell in the pics, but looks to also have a flat wheel (no groove) on the bottom, which would lead me to believe that it wouldn't work on a the bendpak guide channel where a grooved wheel sits on the edge.

I would guess the jack can move left to right so that wheel prevents it from rubbing the lift.

 

[Gerald O]

I got my Bendpak RJ45 only 10 months ago for $1075 shipped (to nearby shipping terminal, same time as the lift purchase). Have you checked with Michael at www.GarageEnthusiast.com ?

 

[jcar302]

Re: Alternative to bendpak rj45 rolling jack? (update bought an rj45)

While it's been a year, I still hadn't purchased a slide jack, until today.
To make a long story short, called gregsmith's national number, confirmed fitment, then called their Delaware store where they couldn't really confirm anything, then it was suggested I goto the new NJ warehouse.
Before I left I called NJ no answer, left a message.
Called the national number again, they said it's there, just go.
When I get there, door is locked, but another customer opened the door as I walked away (solid steel door no window on side of warehouse).
They say they have none in stock, after looking they say they have 4, no hand pumps. Which leaves it useless to me at the moment.
They also said I couldn't see it because it's wrapped to confirm fitment.

Needless to say, the situation as a whole didn't inspire confidence.
Drove home, ordered a Real bendpak RJ45. Couldn't find it cheaper than $1165, so I paid $1175 (yes $10 more) but you get $100 gift card from northern tool.

Broke my own rule of economizing with the best, lesson learned, again...

Oh and tire kicking these for a couple years, cost me about $200 in price increase.

 

[a52-830]

ouch. i have been procrastinating for over a year myself. i called the NH store over the summer, and they had them in stock, and i intended to go, but then life interjected, and i lost track of it. it would make life a lot easier. . . . . i wonder if thee are other places around boston that stock them . . . . .

 

[a52-830]

has anyone got any experience with this one?

https://jmcautomotiveequipment.com/jmc-equipment-rj-45-4-500-lb-rolling-jack

at this point, i dont have "big air" around the lift right now. i use a small compressor/tank which is enough to release the locks on the lift (and fill tires). the "real" rj-45 requires 125PSI and 10-20 CFM to lift, so i would prefer to have a manual jack . . . .

 

[tomshep]

I bought an HD9 a few months go and did the RJ45 and adapter kit. I didn't want to spend the money, but I went all in. NO REGRETS. And, the adapter kit is really handy. Well worth the money.

Tom

 

[Oilguy]

Direct Lift has a jack for just under $600. I have been trying to determine if it will work with my Atlas 8000 lift. The dimensions are given are difficult to understand.

 

[jcar302]

So the rj45 arrived yesterday.
It came on a lift gate 18 wheeler, they rolled it in a box into the garage.
I moved it from the palate to 2 dolly's by myself.
Says it's 380lb, I gotta believe that number to be way high.
Located it sideways, put the lift down, used each upper out rigger arm to gently move each side in place and dropped it on the rails.

My lift is an hd7 a few years old, the only way it fit was 100% collapsed (35 inches).
The safety brackets wouldn't go on so I called bendpak and they said they were added last year without redesign and would look into my situation with my particular lift because the ramps on my lift are really wide and can't go left to right.
The brackets are just L's that under the lift, i'm guessing to prevent you from putting the lift down on top of something accidently and lifting the slide jack out of the rails.
I don't think it will be much of an issue for me since even if that happened the fitment is so tight that I can't see where it would go other than back on the rails.
The brackets don't even fit without the provided nuts and bolts.
Page 15 of the manual has the picture.

It's zero degrees here, snowing today so I only fiddled with it for a minute.
But my 33 gallon craftsman 150psi 5scfm 1.5hp compressor (that I didn't have on, just a full tank) seemed to lift the car just fine for what my limited use will be.

 

[barnee]

Ill be ordering my HD-7W in the spring and was pondering some sort of jack. I see in this thread that some people buy two jacks and some only one.

Not to sidetrack but I can probably fit one of these in the budget. Is it safe to only lift one end and have the other end sitting on tires?

 

[LXCam]

Ill be ordering my HD-7W in the spring and was pondering some sort of jack. I see in this thread that some people buy two jacks and some only one.

Not to sidetrack but I can probably fit one of these in the budget. Is it safe to only lift one end and have the other end sitting on tires?

Ya it's fine. I've had my lift and rj45 over 10yrs and do it alllllllll the time. Just make sure to always chock the tires.

 

[Jazzman442]

Direct Lift has a jack for just under $600. I have been trying to determine if it will work with my Atlas 8000 lift. The dimensions are given are difficult to understand.

I have 2 of these and there lift too. Way better then BendCrap...

 

[garyhgaryh]

Hey guys, what do you think of this jack?

https://advantagelifts.us/RJ-M-Rolling-Hydraulic-Jack-Manual

Will this work on a Ben Pak HD-9ST?

I know it's a manual jack, but I can get it for $500.

Gary

 

[a52-830]

Hey guys, what do you think of this jack?

https://advantagelifts.us/RJ-M-Rolling-Hydraulic-Jack-Manual

Will this work on a Ben Pak HD-9ST?

I know it's a manual jack, but I can get it for $500.

Gary

check this out from the same site:

https://advantagelifts.us/lift-accessories/RJT-1-Rolling-Jacking-Tray

a rolling jack tray for 150$

 

[pbon]

Should fit. I have been looking into alternatives as well. There is another company, central hydraulic or something like that which is cheaper than bend pak as well. Might even get air at that price.

 

[garyhgaryh]

check this out from the same site:

https://advantagelifts.us/lift-accessories/RJT-1-Rolling-Jacking-Tray

a rolling jack tray for 150$

I wonder if anyone has made their own jack tray for cheaper? Probably don't have to be rolling either.

 

[garyhgaryh]

Should fit. I have been looking into alternatives as well. There is another company, central hydraulic or something like that which is cheaper than bend pak as well. Might even get air at that price.

You have a link? That brand sounds like a Harbor Freight product. BTW, I'd buy an alternative from HF if it was available. I have their semi-automatic tire machine from HF (Central Pneumatics) and it has worked well (even can change run-flats).

Gary

 

[pbon]

http://www.completehydraulic.com/lifts-bridge-jacks.html

 

[pbon]

I would call to find out whether it is sliding or rolling it if there is a difference other than the word used to describe how it moves. If it slides on the runners, that would not be as good as rolling on casters on the runners attached to the inside of runners on many ramps.