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[TTLLOGIC]

TTLLOGIC said, (''You could have at least taken the spindle out before baking it''.)---But I don't know how you could keep the jaws aligned for the braze without it being in it.---I've never brazed one or even seen anyone else do it, so I literally don't know.---Someone enlighten me here.

Clamps, blocks, measuring. Same way anything gets welded of brazed. Not sure why you think the spindle has anything to do with lining up the jaws in this case.


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[BMR24]

Hard to tell how much braze is there and how far past the breaks it goes - My guess (with ? (sorry, not good at writing with a mouse...) indicating where I'm not sure if its braze, or burn marks

Looks like flux to me.

 

[BMR24]

Va I'd just use the cast break to line everything up. Will only go together one way. Then I'd clamp it in place and go from there. No need for any of the other parts to be involved and being exposed to that heat

 

[sparty569]

Looks like flux to me.

They cleaned up all of the old weld before moving on.

 

[Outlawmws]

There is still flux in the brazing process. Did they happen to say what rod they used? Was it silver/bronze?

 

[sparty569]

There is still flux in the brazing process.

Makes sense, like the other welding processes.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Yes sir, I went into that vise knowing it wasn't ever going to be as strong as it was before it was damaged. Just as sparty569 has chosen to do with his "rescue" vise. It's fine. The repair was ugly but strong. I spiffed her up some and will use her for lighter jobs. If I ever decide to sell her on then I'll just be sure that the new owner is aware. But regardless, I viewed it as a challenge that I wanted to undertake.

Here's the link to the thread I did on the restoration, if anyone is interested:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388526

Great job on the Reed MMR!

 

[Shiftless]

Man, you guys must've missed the whole rounded corners discussion spurned by one of my first Tradesman restos a few years back ... that one was a real bruiser

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TJ is right. I was here. That interaction was worse. But as a whole, it seems to me as a long time member and contributor to this and other GJ threads, that most all of us are quite civil. I vote for maintaining that mood.

 

[LesserSon]

I found a welding place nearby that said that they can fix it.

I wonder, if at this point you had moved your discussion to https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830 you would have had more agreeable responses. I subscribe to both threads and enjoy them without really being able to contribute much. Despite having many participating members in common, it seems to me that this thread is more dedicated to the aesthetics of vise collecting, inviting evaluative judgment, while the repair thread celebrates experimentation, inviting tolerant support for even apparently quixotic projects like yours.

 

[sparty569]

How is the fit of the jaws? Did they get it square?

Here's the Jaws closed. I think they are pretty square.

And I have to say, I was wrenching it around pretty well last night. The bond at least will hold it's own weight. I did a mini drop test and it held find. Once I get it mounted this weekend, I'll put my weight on it and see how it holds. As of right now, I have no reason to believe it wont do what I will need it to do.

And, I may have a lead on a post vise, which I can use for hammering on, hot cutting, chiseling, etc., if needed.

 

[sparty569]

I wonder, if at this point you had moved your discussion to https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830 you would have had more agreeable responses. I subscribe to both threads and enjoy them without really being able to contribute much. Despite having many participating members in common, it seems to me that this thread is more dedicated to the aesthetics of vise collecting, inviting evaluative judgment, while the repair thread celebrates experimentation, inviting tolerant support for even apparently quixotic projects like yours.

Not a bad idea. I'll post over there and see what the feedback on the repair is.

 

[gman007]

You guys talking about repair work brought up this repair I finished a couple weeks ago. This Reed 207 was delivered from Kansas, you know the guy with all the vises. It was his Dad's and he wanted me to repair the broken Dovetail. Pretty challenging I thought but actually was not to tuff. First had to layout a pocket locating off the center shoulder bolt threads. Setting up the Static was a choir but figured out a solid clamping. Machined the pocket stopping at the top of the dovetail from underneath. machined a flange area to bolt the insert in place and deep enough so not to rub on the swivel base. Cut the opposite shape in the insert and added a flange for clamping. Finished the dovetail cut which was 30 degrees. Shiftless seen my dovetail groove setup. Nice visit by the way Shift. This repair came out pretty good.

Dr Scott It is not just your skills and experience that are so impressive, personally I find your creativity, imagination (for example the idea to come up with such a prosthetic piece for the dove tail) and ingenuity even more impressive. As usual you did a fantastic job.

 

[gman007]

TJ is right. I was here. That interaction was worse. But as a whole, it seems to me as a long time member and contributor to this and other GJ threads, that most all of us are quite civil. I vote for maintaining that mood.

I think we all can agree that all those that commented had good intentions (regardless of agreeing or disagreeing that the repair was a good idea) and were trying to provide good advise to another member. But the tone of the some of the comments might have been stronger than others.

 

[sparty569]

I think we all can agree that all those that commented had good intentions (regardless of agreeing or disagreeing that the repair was a good idea) and were trying to provide good advise to another member. But the tone of the some of the comments might have been stronger than others.

I'm done commenting on it. I have posted the last pictures that I will in this thread. I have moved my end of the conversation to the repair thread that LesserSon had suggested, for my, as he put it, quixotic project.

 

[scooterbum46]

My Reed 104...
My Dad bought a workbench with the Reed attached in 1967. I later took over the garage when I built my home on the property. I have used and abused the Reed since then, never realizing it was repaired until I cleaned it up about a year ago to take some pics for this thread (yeah, I put stuff off sometimes). I've used it as a press, probably beat on it and done things I'm ashamed now to tell. Just thought I'd post to assure Sparty569 that properly brazed repairs can revive a vice and make it usable.

 

[sparty569]

My Reed 104...
My Dad bought a workbench with the Reed attached in 1967. I later took over the garage when I built my home on the property. I have used and abused the Reed since then, never realizing it was repaired until I cleaned it up about a year ago to take some pics for this thread (yeah, I put stuff off sometimes). I've used it as a press, probably beat on it and done things I'm ashamed now to tell. Just thought I'd post to assure Sparty569 that properly brazed repairs can revive a vice and make it usable.

Very much appreciated. I'm sure at some point I will beat on it, and it's good to know that, as long as the repair was done properly, it'll hold up.

 

[wrenchguy]

my best go2 outdoor clamper. it works wonderly wonderfully 4 me.



i kinda live what my grandpa told me prolly 60 year back, "u'll live longer iffen u don't give a ratsass about what others think."

good luck with ur projects.

 

[sparty569]

my best go2 outdoor clamper. it works wonderly wonderfully 4 me.



i kinda live what my grandpa told me prolly 60 year back, "u'll live longer iffen u don't give a ratsass about what others think."

good luck with ur projects.

Your grandpa is a smart man.

 

[Carla]

You guys talking about repair work brought up this repair I finished a couple weeks ago. This Reed 207 was delivered from Kansas, you know the guy with all the vises. It was his Dad's and he wanted me to repair the broken Dovetail. Pretty challenging I thought but actually was not to tuff. First had to layout a pocket locating off the center shoulder bolt threads. Setting up the Static was a choir but figured out a solid clamping. Machined the pocket stopping at the top of the dovetail from underneath. machined a flange area to bolt the insert in place and deep enough so not to rub on the swivel base. Cut the opposite shape in the insert and added a flange for clamping. Finished the dovetail cut which was 30 degrees. Shiftless seen my dovetail groove setup. Nice visit by the way Shift. This repair came out pretty good.

Hi, Kevin,

All I can say is 'wow'........that is a truly 'elegant' repair, so very well done.

cheers

Carla

 

[KMScott]

Thanks Perrorojo, Shiftless, gman and Carla. Just glad to see this big guy back in shape and with new jaws. I also remade the shoulder bolt.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Hi, Kevin,

All I can say is 'wow'........that is a truly 'elegant' repair, so very well done.

cheers

Carla

What Carla said.

 

[dutchgray]

Picked up a nice 6" leg vice locally, best part was it cost me £11.10 which is about $15.
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[sparty569]

Picked up a nice 6" leg vice locally, best part was it cost me £11.10 which is about $15.
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WOW! Lucky!

I'll give you $25

 

[va.grouseman]

Oh Wrench, that breaks my heart.---The 577 is top shelf and one of the sleekest looking vises available.---Among my very favorites.---I think it was RIs finest production.---I have 2 and am kicking myself for passing on a second NOS 577 for $225.00 which would have made my third one.---The guy had 2 IMC and I bought the one and couldn't afford the other one at the time.---Big mistake.---I'm sure yours and Sparty's are nearly if not as strong as before the break, because both look like good braze jobs, as long as the brazer knew his stuff and didn't over cook the cast.---Both of you can get your money back in service several times over, but a broken 577, .

 

[va.grouseman]

Dutch, someone is going to be sick when they find out what they just about gave away.---But you did real good my friend.

 

[BeardedOne]

It's been a little while since I've posted anything on here but if someone is looking for a giant Reed, this may be worth exploring:
https://louisville.craigslist.org/tls/d/large-reed-8-vise-on-very/6621740361.html

 

[trijeff]

Dutch, pretty sure that is a Peter Wright, so you especially ****. Really great pick up.

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[dutchgray]

Dutch, someone is going to be sick when they find out what they just about gave away.---But you did real good my friend.

Dutch, pretty sure that is a Peter Wright, so you especially ****. Really great pick up.

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Well it was on eBay and I was the only bidder, but even I was surprised. It was badly listed though, seller told me it had gone through without bids before.
It was middle of nowhere, barely 10 miles from where I grew up yet I had never been to the village before.

 

[va.grouseman]

Bearded, that is a buy my friend.---Your post probably just sold that item.---I sure hope some of these fellows grab that thing.---The table is a freebie, the vise is worth 1700.---Hope a Journal member get's it.---I want to hear the whole story.

 

[va.grouseman]

Dutch, I'll bet it was a pick-up-only, wasn't it?

 

[dutchgray]

Dutch, I'll bet it was a pick-up-only, wasn't it?

Of course, I don't think you could post one of these, even to heavy for the package companies, would have to go on a pallet.
Leg vices do quite often go cheap here, but not normally such nice or large ones, usually the ones that have lived outside as a garden ornament, but they are not that common in my area.

 

[chrisnazzy]

I picked up this Reed 103 1/2 yesterday off FB. The listing was for a wood lathe and I asked if I could buy just the vise. The seller responded back that if I brought him a pack of smokes it was mine. Took a short drive and bought him 2 packs and now I own my first Reed.

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[Fordriver6]

I picked up this Reed 103 1/2 yesterday off FB. The listing was for a wood lathe and I asked if I could buy just the vise. The seller responded back that if I brought him a pack of smokes it was mine. Took a short drive and bought him 2 packs and now I own my first Reed.
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chris, you ****!!! That's awesome

 

[Fretters]

Picked up a nice 6" leg vice locally, best part was it cost me £11.10 which is about $15.
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Nice. They're big buggers in the flesh, aren't they.

 

[va.grouseman]

Dutch, once in a while you will see a seller post that he will palletize one of those big ones and sometimes even anvils, but will only ship to businesses with docks or fork lifts.---But it's most of the time, pick-up-only.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Very nice pickup on that Reed Chris! Definitely **** worthy!

 

[sparty569]

For those wondering, she's mounted and was able to hold all 228lbs of me on the bar.

I think I'll be happy with her for a long time.

 

[MayerMR]

For those wondering, she's mounted and was able to hold all 228lbs of me on the bar.

I think I'll be happy with her for a long time.

That looks great. Now take it apart again and make it purty! As was mentioned before...we like to see'em purtied up!

 

[sparty569]

That looks great. Now take it apart again and make it purty! As was mentioned before...we like to see'em purtied up!

 

[Fretters]

Dutch, once in a while you will see a seller post that he will palletize one those big ones and sometimes even anvils, but will only ship to businesses with docks or fork lifts.

They rarely make that distinction over here. It gets dropped on the tail lift, wheeled off, and then you're left to your own devices.