To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Mid-Century Moto Mecca Makeover

Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.

dr_clyde

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 7, 2009
Messages
6,461
Location
Holland, MI
Okay, that's about the best humble brag I've heard! Both my Do-All's... That's up there with both my Ferrari's and "my other lathe" Ha!

I'm going to give the O1 a try and see how it works out. Honestly my cold saw sees most of the work and the bandsaw is for larger stock and until I see how it fits into the work of the shop there's no reason to go crazy just yet.

Both my Do-All's... sheesh! :lol_hitti

I've seen shops with multiple saws and as we transition away from manual machines to CNC and digital printing the traditional machine shop is becoming more and more rare. I always loved visiting them even when I didn't understand them.

Gregor

Haha, I promise I wasn't trying to brag. Just sharing my experience. I need saws to make my living, so I expect them to work when I need them. Old Do-All is my go to for reliable, well built saws.

I will always love old machine shops. The skilled machinist making parts by hand on manual equipment is a fading trade, but there will always be a need for manual machinery. In repair, modelmaking and prototype work manual machinery is much faster and sometimes the only way to do the work.

I'm of the opinion the metal shop benefits from at least 3 saws, a vertical bandsaw, a horizontal bandsaw and a cold saw. If I had the room I'd have a tilt-frame Marvel on my floor as well.

As far as bragging goes, I've got a long way to go before my home looks as stunning and well crafted as yours.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
So it's been a super busy month with work but I have sold two more bikes so there's a bit more space in the shop. This past week I shot a project for Rev'It! and we sourced a ton of bikes and shot all over Oregon. My BMW, Avion trailer and van all made cameo appearances as themselves in the story of an Oregon adventure.

i-bmgTQP8-X2.jpg


In addition this summer we're going to be featured in a photo shoot for a certain magazine for their annual camping issue. It's rather flattering as they loved the photos they'd seen of the restoration of the Avion so the plan is to head to Colorado and find a great location to shoot a story featuring the van, Avion and our family in a scenic landscape. But we need the landscape!

I have tried to find some great spots and while I know a lot of the parks I'm trying to find something a bit more off the beaten path, spectacular and a place that we can tow the trailer to and it's hard to find especially when you aren't there. I thought I'd reach out here to see if anyone can offer up some suggestions. Do you know of any good spots? It doesn't have to be a National or State park but we'd certainly consider that. One of my thoughts was The Great Sand Dunes National Monument as we'd traveled there as kids all the time the back way from Westcliffe. Obviously a spot with views of the mountains would be ideal...

Feel free to offer up ideas - I need to come up with something soon!

Thanks a bunch and I'll be doing quite a bit more updates in the next few weeks as we prepare for this shoot in July. Especially on the van - Judiaann has asked that the van "get finished" and specifically asked that we get bumpers, winch and roof rack. How often does your wife ask you to work on your 4x4 van? Expect lots of fabrication to be happening in the next month. And more work on the trailer too. Basically from now to the end of July I'll be furiously working on our rigs.

Gregor
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm checking them all out. It's hard because so much of Colorado and the mountains is pine trees and they're not generally as photogenic up close. Ideally we'd find an open spot with water and long views towards the mountains.

Gregor
 

CecilTheTurtle

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 10, 2011
Messages
107
Location
Boston, MA
Check out Buena Vista. Lots of BLM land and a big open valley for great shots of the mountains. The Collegiate Range runs down one side of the Valley. Plenty of mild to wild 4wheeling there.

picture-14.jpg
 
Last edited:

lilscorpion

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 15, 2010
Messages
3,600
Location
Colorado
Check out Buena Vista. Lots of BLM land and a big open valley for great shots of the mountains. The Collegiate Range runs down one side of the Valley. Plenty of mild to wild 4wheeling there.

picture-14.jpg


Agreed. Chinaman’s Gulch May be one of my favorite trails. Ive probably run dozens of trails down there. Plenty to do, many different views both above and below tree line.
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
I love Buena Vista - it's just up the road from where I grew up in Westcliffe and my brother and mom live in Salida.

The last direction we got from the magazine was that they wanted to be near water and there was one or two spots near the Collegiates that had potential but they're now leaning towards Blue River Campground which is just north of Breck. It looks small and is right on a creek so we'll see what happens.

Right now my front bumper is off the van and I'm working on welding up a new bumper for it while waiting for the winch to show up. Rear bumper is next. I'll have an update maybe tomorrow.

Gregor
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
Looking forward to your fabbed bumpers for the van.

Well then this is your lucky day!

i-8drfhqv-X2.jpg


What's wrong with this picture? If you guessed stock bumpers you're absolutely right. The last thing that I did on the van was get rid of the stock wheel set that I was testing and put the 35's back on. No real milage difference and a worse ride and no improvement in the handling. The flares cover the tires now and complete the "stance" as they say.

But Lucas wants a winch. And a ladder, roof rack and round lights on top - not the LED strip ones. He's rather specific and correct on all counts. Round lights are way cooler. It was also very apparent that I need a roof rack. Every shoot I end up standing on top of some sort of unsafe object to get a better view. This van will have a shooting platform.

Anyway, a few weeks back, before my shoot I ordered up two bumpers from MOVE Bumpers. I put an application in for sponsorship, was "selected for the next round" and then never heard back. Maybe they're waiting to see if I'm cool or not. Gonna be a long wait. Nonetheless the kits aren't expensive - two bumpers shipped to me was a couple bucks over a grand. Steel is expensive so I consider this a deal.

The bumpers are sold as "kits" and come as precut and bent steel plates that you assemble on your truck. Here you see the 12 pieces of a complete bumper.

i-qrjdL9j-X2.jpg


I ordered a winch from Warn - I was going to get the VR-12S but it was backordered and, really, I wanted to get the one that was made here in Oregon but is more expensive. I ended up cancelling the VR and getting the Zeon 12S which is a better winch.

And to clear up confusion: a winch is a hauling or lifting device consisting of a rope, cable, or chain winding around a horizontal rotating drum, turned by a motor or other power source. A Wench is a lewd woman or pirate prostitute and should never be mounted to the front of your vehicle.

With that out of the way you need a really secure way to tie the winch into your vehicle and generally that takes the form of a bumper specifically designed to transfer the loads to your frame. Years ago I had a Rover with a winch and it was used more than I thought it would be. Much like carrying a gun it makes you think you're tougher than you are and encourages you to do dumb things. If you resist the urge it's a good tool to have.

i-WLXsWNw-X2.jpg


First things first is to bevel the edges where you're going to weld so as to get good penetration of your weld. The steel on the center section is 1/4" but the winch is rated to 12,000lbs and the van is 8,800lbs. If really stuck you can get very close to that max number and so this is pretty essential to get right.

i-74xFTtq-X2.jpg


And that thing in the background - never mind that. It's for one person: Locul. Provided he has very low expectations I will make a video on building the bumpers.

i-bBmR2Sg-X2.jpg


I stocked up on welding rod and got a gas lens for a 1/8" tungsten - this thickness will max out my Miller Dynasty 200DX. Oh and you should really be doing this with a Mig. I don't have one so Tig it is.

i-gVDb4t2-X2.jpg


The "correct" way to build this is to start with the plates mounted on the bumpers and build out - using your vehicle as the "jig" but Tig requires two hands so I measured instead.

i-TsZfHTb-X2.jpg


I'm experimenting with pulsing by the pedal - it seems to give me a better result as I can go slower but I'm dumping too much heat in.

i-4m378W9-X2.jpg


This is why you bolt your mounting plates on first and build out. If I'd just tacked it like I should have I would have caught this but I was getting into a groove and just kept on welding...

It's not out enough to mess things up and the bolts will pull it in. I can also probably add more bead on the back side and use the heat to bring it back.

i-SpnfRv9-X2.jpg

i-5Npjxsz-X2.jpg


Center section in and lined up. Looks beefy.

i-Bb6SvQv-X2.jpg


The next step is to tack on the wings on the side. Their shape and weight mean that the only way to do it is to hold them in place by hand and tack. I called my fellow van compatriot and neighbor Taylor. He's like Ben in that he's really good at seeing things that will make a project much better but will require a lot of work - and then he points them out to you. He thought I should stretch the bumper to extend out to the flares.

I put my fingers in my ears and went "blah, blah, blah, I can't hear you" even though he's right. I keep telling myself, "Perfect is the enemy of Good" and "I would like to finish some project in my lifetime!"

i-HgC8DT5-X2.jpg


The great thing about these kits is that you can modify them to suit your needs. My tires are larger and the ends of the bumpers came too close for comfort so I used some painters tape to mock up how I might trim them.

i-dDVChP8-X2.jpg


The plasma cutter requires two hands and so I forgot to take any photos. And because of video - damn you Mikael!

i-SFtv2BG-X2.jpg

i-xQzNDgT-X2.jpg


The chevron cut from the lower wing makes a perfect filler now!

i-GSjhvRf-X2.jpg


Like most of my welding projects - I get better about halfway through. I started to experiment with weaving the puddle but discovered that welding outside means a gust can blow your argon away hence that ugly spot. Nonetheless I'm getting better.

i-cLN2dzJ-X2.jpg


And the sad/happy thing is that all the welds get ground anyway. I'm planning on grinding the weld joints to the same radius as the bends to soften the "origami" look that folded steel bumpers have. I don't mind the look but hard lines don't fit the body style.

i-kMsNKDS-X2.jpg


What you save by buying the bumper as a kit you spend on flap wheels. Most things that I build the welds are exposed - sort of a badge of honor to show your chops - so it's really nice to make something where all my mistakes just disappear in a cloud of sparks.

Tomorrow I'll finish up the front and get it mounted up while I wait for the winch to show up. I also have a rear bumper which I'm looking forward to building as I'm going to fab up a rear tire carrier on that and then build in a custom bike hauler. Super psyched to get working on that.

Gregor
 
Last edited:

sean Buick 76

Well-known member
Joined
May 7, 2013
Messages
3,221
Location
Edmonton Alberta
Bad assed bumper on that van I love it! I have a 200 pound bumper I am adding the front of my E-450 car hauler, but it won't look as nice as yours! Very cool! Amazing photos, by the way, very stunning!
 

locul

Well-known member
Joined
May 13, 2010
Messages
98
Fecking yes. Just while i´m packing up all my gear for the tour south of Denmark.

I´ll just point this out:
blablablablablablablablablabla.... And because of video

This is a turn. You are going to kill this. Please put the Sony A7 on some serious video work.

I bow for you and thank you.
 

Brian R

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 1, 2009
Messages
591
Location
Chestertown, MD
The bumper really looks solid and a nice addition.

A little bit of correction if I may by way of Merriam Webster - wench 1) young woman or female servant; 2) lewd woman or prostitute.

So a beer wench would be someone hired to deliver beer and not necessarily lewd.

Can't wait to see the roof rack / shooting platform.
 

BoilermakerFan

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 17, 2006
Messages
2,188
Location
Indianapolis, Indiana
Well then this is your lucky day!

i-8drfhqv-X2.jpg


What's wrong with this picture? If you guessed stock bumpers you're absolutely right. The last thing that I did on the van was get rid of the stock wheel set that I was testing and put the 35's back on. No real milage difference and a worse ride and no improvement in the handling. The flares cover the tires now and complete the "stance" as they say.

But Lucas wants a winch. And a ladder, roof rack and round lights on top - not the LED strip ones. He's rather specific and correct on all counts. Round lights are way cooler. It was also very apparent that I need a roof rack. Every shoot I end up standing on top of some sort of unsafe object to get a better view. This van will have a shooting platform.

Anyway, a few weeks back, before my shoot I ordered up two bumpers from MOVE Bumpers. I put an application in for sponsorship, was "selected for the next round" and then never heard back. Maybe they're waiting to see if I'm cool or not. Gonna be a long wait. Nonetheless the kits aren't expensive - two bumpers shipped to me was a couple bucks over a grand. Steel is expensive so I consider this a deal.

The bumpers are sold as "kits" and come as precut and bent steel plates that you assemble on your truck. Here you see the 12 pieces of a complete bumper.

i-qrjdL9j-X2.jpg


I ordered a winch from Warn - I was going to get the VR-12S but it was backordered and, really, I wanted to get the one that was made here in Oregon but is more expensive. I ended up cancelling the VR and getting the Zeon 12S which is a better winch.

And to clear up confusion: a winch is a hauling or lifting device consisting of a rope, cable, or chain winding around a horizontal rotating drum, turned by a motor or other power source. A Wench is a lewd woman or pirate prostitute and should never be mounted to the front of your vehicle.

With that out of the way you need a really secure way to tie the winch into your vehicle and generally that takes the form of a bumper specifically designed to transfer the loads to your frame. Years ago I had a Rover with a winch and it was used more than I thought it would be. Much like carrying a gun it makes you think you're tougher than you are and encourages you to do dumb things. If you resist the urge it's a good tool to have.

i-WLXsWNw-X2.jpg


First things first is to bevel the edges where you're going to weld so as to get good penetration of your weld. The steel on the center section is 1/4" but the winch is rated to 12,000lbs and the van is 8,800lbs. If really stuck you can get very close to that max number and so this is pretty essential to get right.

i-74xFTtq-X2.jpg


And that thing in the background - never mind that. It's for one person: Locul. Provided he has very low expectations I will make a video on building the bumpers.

i-bBmR2Sg-X2.jpg


I stocked up on welding rod and got a gas lens for a 1/8" tungsten - this thickness will max out my Miller Dynasty 200DX. Oh and you should really be doing this with a Mig. I don't have one so Tig it is.

i-gVDb4t2-X2.jpg


The "correct" way to build this is to start with the plates mounted on the bumpers and build out - using your vehicle as the "jig" but Tig requires two hands so I measured instead.

i-TsZfHTb-X2.jpg


I'm experimenting with pulsing by the peddle - it seems to give me a better result as I can go slower but I'm dumping too much heat in.

i-4m378W9-X2.jpg


This is why you bolt your mounting plates on first and build out. If I'd just tacked it like I should have I would have caught this but I was getting into a groove and just kept on welding...

It's not out enough to mess things up and the bolts will pull it in. I can also probably add more bead on the back side and use the heat to bring it back.

i-SpnfRv9-X2.jpg

i-5Npjxsz-X2.jpg


Center section in and lined up. Looks beefy.

i-Bb6SvQv-X2.jpg


The next step is to tack on the wings on the side. Their shape and weight mean that the only way to do it is to hold them in place by hand and tack. I called my fellow van compatriot and neighbor Taylor. He's like Ben in that he's really good at seeing things that will make a project much better but will require a lot of work - and then he points them out to you. He thought I should stretch the bumper to extend out to the flares.

I put my fingers in my ears and went "blah, blah, blah, I can't hear you" even though he's right. I keep telling myself, "Perfect is the enemy of Good" and "I would like to finish some project in my lifetime!"

i-HgC8DT5-X2.jpg


The great thing about these kits is that you can modify them to suit your needs. My tires are larger and the ends of the bumpers came too close for comfort so I used some painters tape to mock up how I might trim them.

i-dDVChP8-X2.jpg


The plasma cutter requires two hands and so I forgot to take any photos. And because of video - damn you Mikael!

i-SFtv2BG-X2.jpg

i-xQzNDgT-X2.jpg


The chevron cut from the lower wing makes a perfect filler now!

i-GSjhvRf-X2.jpg


Like most of my welding projects - I get better about halfway through. I started to experiment with weaving the puddle but discovered that welding outside means a gust can blow your argon away hence that ugly spot. Nonetheless I'm getting better.

i-cLN2dzJ-X2.jpg


And the sad/happy thing is that all the welds get ground anyway. I'm planning on grinding the weld joints to the same radius as the bends to soften the "origami" look that folded steel bumpers have. I don't mind the look but hard lines don't fit the body style.

i-kMsNKDS-X2.jpg


What you save by buying the bumper as a kit you spend on flap wheels. Most things that I build the welds are exposed - sort of a badge of honor to show your chops - so it's really nice to make something where all my mistakes just disappear in a cloud of sparks.

Tomorrow I'll finish up the front and get it mounted up while I wait for the winch to show up. I also have a rear bumper which I'm looking forward to building as I'm going to fab up a rear tire carrier on that and then build in a custom bike hauler. Super psyched to get working on that.

Gregor

Awesome! Thanks for the post! I love 4x4 Ford vans with beefy bumpers and roof rack. Looking forward to the roof rack too.
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
Most of the welds were done on the outside so I spent today welding the backside. And adding more bead to the mounts.

i-rkVzjzP-X2.jpg


i-dBXJ98C-X2.jpg


Another mistake was not fully welding the mounts to the center section before I welded on the sides. It became pretty difficult to access the them...

i-RZ8TfRD-X2.jpg


You'll notice I'm wearing a long sleeved shirt today... more on that later. Aside from welding all the joints from the inside I needed to weld on the massive 5/8" tow hooks. Considering the bumper is held on with 1/4 standoffs I'm not sure why the tow hooks are so big. I guess there's two bumper mounts and the tow hooks might be side loaded so I suppose the beef is warranted.

i-B2xbfGz-X2.jpg


I put a good 1/4" bevel on them and did a single root pass. I kept trying to find a pulse that worked and the slower I went the better I did. Despite welding for years now I still finding dipping the rod to be a tricky thing so I tend to "lay rod" which means you lay the filler in and make your pass over it. I used 3/32" filler for the root pass and at 200 amps and a pulse of .6 seconds at 85 peak and 20 background (more for me than you) I got a good even bead.

i-MbSdjNx-X2.jpg


I've never done a "weave" before but I felt like that was going to be easier than doing two separate passes to build up the bead. In this case I turned off pulsing and laid down a 1/8" filler and manually pulsed the peddle while dipping back and forth to both sides. This was my second tow hook so, like always, I manage to figure it out halfway through.

Actually I'm pretty damn happy with those welds. Considering it's my first time welding anything this thick and first time weaving the puddle I think I did a good job. And technically I have another bumper to go so there's two more tow hooks... oh, shoot, there aren't any on the back. Dang it!

i-X2dT2jk-X2.jpg


I treated myself to a new tool. I've wanted one of these electric ratchets for years now but never pull the trigger so to speak. Putting the bumper on and off myself and trying to work a normal ratchet in the confined space was the thing that finally tipped me over the edge. It's pretty sweet.

They make two different ones and this is the brushless version - little stronger motor but it was the better battery life of the brushless and the heavier build quality that made my choice.

Oh, and that long sleeved shirt?

i-fTTh6WF-X2.jpg


Yes, I'm an idiot. The welding arc puts out a boat load of UV and you can get a welding sunburn if you don't cover up. Most of my welding is very low amps and very short lengths so I've never gotten toasted before quite like this. A day of 200 amps in a short sleeved shirt has given me some pretty burned biceps. (Painful) lesson learned.

But, hey I'm done with one bumper. It really didn't take too long - two days? I'd guess I have about 8-10 hours in and most of that is me being picky.

i-9G4JdnB-X2.jpg


I'm waiting for the winch to show up and then I'll weld in the bracket to hold that. Wiring that up should be pretty simple. After that I'll build the back bumper and then maybe live with it for a few weeks to see what I think and if I want to change anything. Once I'm happy I'm probably going to hit them with bedliner. Mostly because I'm thinking of bedlining the lower belt line of the van anyway. It will help the look I think. If that's a bad idea let me know but I've had good luck with it in my pickup. Or I'll power coat them.

i-7Z7fF76-X2.jpg


So I'm pretty dang happy with how this turned out. For my first heavy duty welding project it went well and I think it looks pretty good. I love that I was able to trim the corners back and increase the amount of wheel shown on the corner. It's nice to be able to make custom changes. I learned to weave and I got a head start on my summer tan...

Next up is the rear bumper - it should be a bit more interesting.

Gregor
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

BoilermakerFan

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 17, 2006
Messages
2,188
Location
Indianapolis, Indiana
LineX bed liner can be color matched too, so I think LineX would be a fine choice. You could pick out any color from the Ford book you wanted, doesn't have to be the same white as the van...
 

Greg_STL

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 12, 2015
Messages
690
I was a bit surprised and also sad when I went to hit the next page and realized I had found the end of this particular rabbit hole .... at least temporarily. I've been working through the posts over the last week and my wife must have thought I'd gone round the bend as I would spontaneously chuckle and then blurt out "Wow! Amazing!" My daughter was binge watching the Great British Baking Show on Netflix while I was binge reading Gregor the Undeterred and Undefeated on Garage Journal. I'm not sure who was having more fun.

Keep it up and never change ... unless you want to!
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
I was a bit surprised and also sad when I went to hit the next page and realized I had found the end of this particular rabbit hole .... at least temporarily...

Keep it up and never change ... unless you want to!

No worries, this rabbit hole goes deeper. Today I bought 144’ of aluminum tubing for the roof rack. Why aluminum? Well, I’m not that good at welding it - yet.

Thanks for reading along. I’m alway impressed that people find this thread and actually read it all the way through. Even having lived it I don’t know that I have that sort of dedication!

Gregor
 

Hawk136439

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 5, 2017
Messages
117
Location
Illinois
Just a thought on the bumper mounts. It appears to be 2 vertical standoffs going from the bolt plate to the back face of the bumper. Have you thought about adding some horizontal plate to those pieces as a sort of fabricated channel or box (red lines) to help deal with any side loading? I have also heard horror stories of that factory cross-member pulling off during a recovery so maybe a plate picking up a bolt hole in the bottom of the frame rail (purple Line) too?

T8xBsTTtHU88m9AVFyTQdCvAwXsldmXaeMdXKnSfTxiVdwp76yM2M8UaGUMS5AOQnoO6k0Tc6b0pol0mrh5pzXak8KtnJiuNbbI7PEfif7WcFMNUfZdkOPPLJf0Yqp5ENPxy7EDqh3o14jr5oXOjiRFODIiFoiMDfy_6rJnRMea01iLXFDDLRpSd9GY2j5SoqF4bQBtnYvDm7La-vd9QRIdI7XafIhqOAB3EZhmhQUHLSmBt8-qYlFDEKNk6kaOYI-v-NMmDpN6q13rhhFPpM4wGkAdzT_kb0JzgUlmUP7-sPQq5FPBni7VWcR6VICPlMvfGD00uJey50LgyJZM_1QEw8ZSa3pj45-A4CfJiyqNLRGxGJOe3GlLioCU8bb2aXuTCXJqnwEMl9_2N9ebyLZqvJkFO0x4kloUzxdoTMJ2xYOakxg-jNy5Vjv_duJfWcuTtXHrSAFqf6dWkdu-RTSZhx_e6ilXLwmQjgqlJEOgdbM2XRGFNhM2HLQ0Cs7kEzpVn7bPpVnrDdDdvQEIeRnPvRPJ19SHqgPFWA15oKHpLRoVLU4V1OtJ6y4lT9x0T9wrV3jND5p8kQ6HtVIXN8I3U_Fer78eIGLGJvUGb_CiRD4pbljBk01Ntb3WOODveY8el9HxpmeCvgOuEQDf9RZXpwN024sRY=w944-h548-no


Just my $0.02

I can't wait to see how the roof rack and rear bumper turns out!
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
Just a thought on the bumper mounts...

I can't wait to see how the roof rack and rear bumper turns out!

I’ve been thinking about that. As I welded the recovery points it seemed odd that the actual mount would be less strong. I’m going to look at that when the winch comes and add some bracing.

I’d not heard of the frame ears coming off! Yikes. I’ll look at my options. I’m going to beef up the rear bumper as I want to hang a bike on it.

Thanks,

Gregor
 

Brian_P

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 27, 2017
Messages
47
Location
Georgia
Like so many others, I've been lurking on garage journal for years without joining or posting. And, like so many others, for some reason I'm choosing to make my first post right here, after discovering this thread and reading it through from beginning to (current) end over a few days. And ordering a new (old) mechanical pencil from ebay. Thanks for that, by the way.

Why? I think because this thread made me realize what I love about garage journal. Like many of us, I spent a significant amount of time in my teens in a shop with a bunch of old WWII guys, ostensibly learning some metalwork, machining, and engine rebuilding, but really being mentored on life, work ethic, and problem solving (as well as a few lewd jokes). Sadly those guys have long since died (and my machining skills with them due to disuse) but the life lessons have persisted. However, reading this thread I’m reminded of their can-do attitude, of the idea that any problem can be fixed with a enough dedication, and of the camaraderie of those with mechanical skills and interests.

There are plenty of single-topic forums providing granular detail on their core area, but I’ve never found another place where everyone gets excited about old craigslist machine tools, new expensive wood tools, obscure mechanical pencils, modified motorcycles, expedition vehicles, midcentury modern architecture, camping, shooting (without the political overlay), wristwatches, photography and photographic equipment and generally just value the opportunity to learn a new fact about the world we live in and how to shape it. There may be a personality type associated with this… It feels a lot like that shop full of WWII vets that I haven’t found an equivalent to in decades.

I’m convinced you’re the poster child - you're a regular guy with mechanical skill, a good bit of dedication, and a healthy amount of OCD who jumps into projects of all types out of a love of learning something new, sometimes with pre-existing expertise and sometimes with little more than the knowledge that you have the ability to develop it. You’ve also been kind enough to give us a window into your life and your family, which is humanizing and endearing. Although we’ve never met, I feel like we (most of the readership of this) would all enjoy having a beer together. That, I think, is why this is the best thread I’ve read in years, and why I felt the need to stop lurking in the shadows and post something. Thank you.

In the interest of adding something to the thread other than some musings, I did have a question. I’m moving in a few months and will finally have my own shop and the space for machine tools. Did you have any recommendations for good lathes or vertical mills to look for on the used market? You seem to have put substantial thought into each of your purchases, and there are limited web resources that are open and friendly to amateurs. It would be nice to figure out what is out there that has the quality to do real work without necessarily paying for features I will never have the skill to use.
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
Like so many others, I've been lurking on garage journal for years without joining or posting. And, like so many others, for some reason I'm choosing to make my first post right here, after discovering this thread and reading it through from beginning to (current) end over a few days. And ordering a new (old) mechanical pencil from ebay. Thanks for that, by the way.

Why? I think because this thread made me realize what I love about garage journal. Like many of us, I spent a significant amount of time in my teens in a shop with a bunch of old WWII guys, ostensibly learning some metalwork, machining, and engine rebuilding, but really being mentored on life, work ethic, and problem solving (as well as a few lewd jokes). Sadly those guys have long since died (and my machining skills with them due to disuse) but the life lessons have persisted. However, reading this thread I’m reminded of their can-do attitude, of the idea that any problem can be fixed with a enough dedication, and of the camaraderie of those with mechanical skills and interests.

There are plenty of single-topic forums providing granular detail on their core area, but I’ve never found another place where everyone gets excited about old craigslist machine tools, new expensive wood tools, obscure mechanical pencils, modified motorcycles, expedition vehicles, midcentury modern architecture, camping, shooting (without the political overlay), wristwatches, photography and photographic equipment and generally just value the opportunity to learn a new fact about the world we live in and how to shape it. There may be a personality type associated with this… It feels a lot like that shop full of WWII vets that I haven’t found an equivalent to in decades.

I’m convinced you’re the poster child - you're a regular guy with mechanical skill, a good bit of dedication, and a healthy amount of OCD who jumps into projects of all types out of a love of learning something new, sometimes with pre-existing expertise and sometimes with little more than the knowledge that you have the ability to develop it. You’ve also been kind enough to give us a window into your life and your family, which is humanizing and endearing. Although we’ve never met, I feel like we (most of the readership of this) would all enjoy having a beer together. That, I think, is why this is the best thread I’ve read in years, and why I felt the need to stop lurking in the shadows and post something. Thank you.

In the interest of adding something to the thread other than some musings, I did have a question. I’m moving in a few months and will finally have my own shop and the space for machine tools. Did you have any recommendations for good lathes or vertical mills to look for on the used market? You seem to have put substantial thought into each of your purchases, and there are limited web resources that are open and friendly to amateurs. It would be nice to figure out what is out there that has the quality to do real work without necessarily paying for features I will never have the skill to use.

:beer:

Damn. That's a hell of an intro post. Thanks a lot.

It makes me realize that I really need to have that party I've been threatening. I know that pretty much everyone that follows this thread would all get along and have a lot in common. I agree with you on all counts - we've lost a lot of that old can do attitude. When I was a kid we got a box of old 1950's Popular Mechanics magazines and I would read through them for hours because the many "handy man" projects were amazing.

To me the shop is the antithesis, or maybe antidote, to the screen. It makes me crazy how we all (myself included) spend hours a day looking into a small world of "other" instead of being in the now. The shop is now in the most amazing and tangible and focused way. I think we all enjoy that shutting off when you spend the day working with your hands on something real.

Thanks a lot for you post - it means a lot.

As for mills and lathes - oh, you betcha! If you can swing the cost and the space get a Bridgeport - no two ways about it, it is the end all and be all for a mill. You will never outgrow it and it can passed down to your kids. I wanted one and almost bought a couple but they were expensive at $2500 ten years ago... I regret each one I passed up. A Deckle is the step up but not as ubiquitous and very expensive. The Rockwell, the mill that I have, is the step down and a great machine as long as you don't try to take too large a cut. The come in vertical style and the combo horz/vert which I have. Some day I'll make more use of the horizontal aspect.

For lathes there's more variety and the hobbyist goto is generally the South Bend. The Heavy 10 is decent but anything lighter will have a harder time. The Clausing and Colchester (the were separate and then joined so the names often interchange) are great machines and solid performers. Can be had for a fair price too. Lathes, unlike mills, can get incredibly large and if you have the space you can often get really big lathes for less than hobbyist sized ones. Holy grail lathes are the Monarch and the Hardinge.

I set up a CL alert and then try to be patient. Deals come along but more so if you're in the east than the west. Ebay can be a good place to find deals if you use it to search locally because big tools rarely sell on ebay - that's how I got the big band saw.

Hope that helps. Let us know what you find.

Gregor
 

Kiwi Canuck

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 13, 2014
Messages
156
Location
Langley BC
Like so many others, I've been lurking on garage journal for years without joining or posting. And, like so many others, for some reason I'm choosing to make my first post right here, after discovering this thread and reading it through from beginning to (current) end over a few days. And ordering a new (old) mechanical pencil from ebay. Thanks for that, by the way.

Why? I think because this thread made me realize what I love about garage journal. Like many of us, I spent a significant amount of time in my teens in a shop with a bunch of old WWII guys, ostensibly learning some metalwork, machining, and engine rebuilding, but really being mentored on life, work ethic, and problem solving (as well as a few lewd jokes). Sadly those guys have long since died (and my machining skills with them due to disuse) but the life lessons have persisted. However, reading this thread I’m reminded of their can-do attitude, of the idea that any problem can be fixed with a enough dedication, and of the camaraderie of those with mechanical skills and interests.

There are plenty of single-topic forums providing granular detail on their core area, but I’ve never found another place where everyone gets excited about old craigslist machine tools, new expensive wood tools, obscure mechanical pencils, modified motorcycles, expedition vehicles, midcentury modern architecture, camping, shooting (without the political overlay), wristwatches, photography and photographic equipment and generally just value the opportunity to learn a new fact about the world we live in and how to shape it. There may be a personality type associated with this… It feels a lot like that shop full of WWII vets that I haven’t found an equivalent to in decades.

I’m convinced you’re the poster child - you're a regular guy with mechanical skill, a good bit of dedication, and a healthy amount of OCD who jumps into projects of all types out of a love of learning something new, sometimes with pre-existing expertise and sometimes with little more than the knowledge that you have the ability to develop it. You’ve also been kind enough to give us a window into your life and your family, which is humanizing and endearing. Although we’ve never met, I feel like we (most of the readership of this) would all enjoy having a beer together. That, I think, is why this is the best thread I’ve read in years, and why I felt the need to stop lurking in the shadows and post something. Thank you.

In the interest of adding something to the thread other than some musings, I did have a question. I’m moving in a few months and will finally have my own shop and the space for machine tools. Did you have any recommendations for good lathes or vertical mills to look for on the used market? You seem to have put substantial thought into each of your purchases, and there are limited web resources that are open and friendly to amateurs. It would be nice to figure out what is out there that has the quality to do real work without necessarily paying for features I will never have the skill to use.

Hijack alert,

Brian, I guess you haven't found Hobby Machinist yet?

https://www.hobby-machinist.com/

Very friendly place to ask questions and they have threads for most brands of machinery.

I joined after following Mike from Zmotorsports on GJ and enjoyed his youtube reviews of his Precision Matthews Lathe and Mill.

Hijack complete.


David.
 

Brian_P

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 27, 2017
Messages
47
Location
Georgia
Gregor-
I agree re the shop being the antidote to a screen-focused life. Ironic, perhaps, since I also agree that it seems like a lower proportion of people are handy in the present day, and our community has therefore become widespread and dependent on the screen for camaraderie. I appreciate the mill and lathe recs; looked for a while when I lived in WA state, and haven't found much in TX, but moving to GA soon and hoping there will be a better selection of used machinery there. I wish you luck on the expedition van build, and I'll be following along!

David - good call on that website. I hadn't really found it; definitely a different vibe than Practical Machinist, which seems a bit less welcoming. I'll have to explore this a bit more.
 

gasgas17

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 7, 2009
Messages
443
Location
Nova Scotia, Canada
Just a thought on the bumper mounts. It appears to be 2 vertical standoffs going from the bolt plate to the back face of the bumper. Have you thought about adding some horizontal plate to those pieces as a sort of fabricated channel or box (red lines) to help deal with any side loading? I have also heard horror stories of that factory cross-member pulling off during a recovery so maybe a plate picking up a bolt hole in the bottom of the frame rail (purple Line) too?

T8xBsTTtHU88m9AVFyTQdCvAwXsldmXaeMdXKnSfTxiVdwp76yM2M8UaGUMS5AOQnoO6k0Tc6b0pol0mrh5pzXak8KtnJiuNbbI7PEfif7WcFMNUfZdkOPPLJf0Yqp5ENPxy7EDqh3o14jr5oXOjiRFODIiFoiMDfy_6rJnRMea01iLXFDDLRpSd9GY2j5SoqF4bQBtnYvDm7La-vd9QRIdI7XafIhqOAB3EZhmhQUHLSmBt8-qYlFDEKNk6kaOYI-v-NMmDpN6q13rhhFPpM4wGkAdzT_kb0JzgUlmUP7-sPQq5FPBni7VWcR6VICPlMvfGD00uJey50LgyJZM_1QEw8ZSa3pj45-A4CfJiyqNLRGxGJOe3GlLioCU8bb2aXuTCXJqnwEMl9_2N9ebyLZqvJkFO0x4kloUzxdoTMJ2xYOakxg-jNy5Vjv_duJfWcuTtXHrSAFqf6dWkdu-RTSZhx_e6ilXLwmQjgqlJEOgdbM2XRGFNhM2HLQ0Cs7kEzpVn7bPpVnrDdDdvQEIeRnPvRPJ19SHqgPFWA15oKHpLRoVLU4V1OtJ6y4lT9x0T9wrV3jND5p8kQ6HtVIXN8I3U_Fer78eIGLGJvUGb_CiRD4pbljBk01Ntb3WOODveY8el9HxpmeCvgOuEQDf9RZXpwN024sRY=w944-h548-no


Just my $0.02

I can't wait to see how the roof rack and rear bumper turns out!

The crumple portion (above the purple line and towards the back another foot) of the frame rails on theses vans are known to rot out well before the rest of the frame. I have had a couple repaired to get by safety inspections. It would be prudent to be liberal with some rust proofing in these areas. Mind you we live with the highest concentration of road salt of anywhere in north america, so we may see rotten frames long before a southern vehicle. Most of the OEM's conduct corrosion testing here.
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
David - good call on that website. I hadn't really found it; definitely a different vibe than Practical Machinist, which seems a bit less welcoming. I'll have to explore this a bit more.

Practical Machinist should be called Cranky Machinist. Great information but I will rarely post questions there lest I get ridiculed for a newb mistake. David's recommendation is a good one.

The crumple portion (above the purple line and towards the back another foot) of the frame rails on theses vans are known to rot out well before the rest of the frame. I have had a couple repaired to get by safety inspections. It would be prudent to be liberal with some rust proofing in these areas. Mind you we live with the highest concentration of road salt of anywhere in north america, so we may see rotten frames long before a southern vehicle. Most of the OEM's conduct corrosion testing here.

Those parts have rust on them but just a light surface coating - nothing bad or deep. In fact that's about the only rust on the van luckily. When I take the bumpers off again to paint them or powder them I'll give them a good wire brushing and a coat of paint. For all the rain we get we don't have much rust here in the PNW which is due to the lack of salt I guess.

Thanks for the tip!

Gregor
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
So one of the main reasons to build a rear bumper is to get the spare out of the back of the van. It's too big to go under and takes up a lot of room in side so we're going for the Overland solution - rear bumper.

i-NTxzbBh-X2.jpg


Ben has a great setup on his FJ with a ladder and spare but the set up has to be undone every time you access the rear tailgate. My goal is to get the spare off to the side enough to be able to open the one rear door so the back remains accessible. This is the normal placement and the rear brake/signal is visible from far back but not very well. I'm going to order some supplemental brake/signal/backup lights that I can recess into the bumper.

But first I need a bumper.

i-HfjF7VH-X2.jpg


It's a heavy box for it's size.

i-Q4STsdF-X2.jpg


Even less parts this time - just 8. The recovery points really don't fit so I'm not sure why they sent them. I may cut them down and find a way to fit them but I don't think I need them with the tow hitch.

i-JFLgXkJ-X2.jpg


I'd love to have a large level layout table. One of those giant Acorn tables. But I have a sloping driveway and a couple of sawhorses so I make due. Those Vise Grips are one of the most common and useful welding clamps.

i-tpXZHgt-X2.jpg


This switchable welding magnets are really great. Maybe the best reason is because you can turn them off and then blow off all the steel dust that inevitably sticks to them. The whole bumper fits together with open corners which makes for a good solid weld with 100% penetration.

i-7CbPbfF-X2.jpg


Once the first couple of sections are tacked together I give it a test fit. This time I tacked the mounts which was a good thing as they needed to be nudged over an 1/8" to get the mounts aligned.

i-Gqw4Ctr-X2.jpg


One of the most important things to do when welding is to get comfortable. I can weld on my back - poorly.

i-NWS9hRN-X2.jpg


I've been trying to sort of "stitch" my way around the bumper. To spread out and balance the heat but also so I don't burn myself on something I just welded. That steel stays HOT!

i-jcGWfkL-X2.jpg


So you don't think all my welds look good I thought I'd demonstrate welds that are (from the left) too cold, just right, too hot and too cold. I like to mix it up.

i-RRXVBDJ-X2.jpg


And because I didn't want to try to grind out that inside corner I set the machine to pulse and then went over the weld in a weave. It's sort of cheating but it accomplishes the goal of getting a smooth bead.

i-4LsPhTZ-X2.jpg


It's a small detail but I figured I'd show my process for grinding down the welds. Essentially I grind them flat to the surface on each side...

i-PxBDdGn-X2.jpg


Then give the center an even 45 in the middle and then feather it in. It helps to ensure I don't have any waves or high spots and that the radius stays consistent.

i-xNKnnzB-X2.jpg


i-Dnxv2Vp-X2.jpg


Lastly I wanted to mount the trailer hitch receptacle in the bumper as I hate those silly brackets that hang down ready to be smashed or torn off. The phone is the key to rewiring anything correctly. Lots of photos no matter if you think you'll remember.

i-Lc54fCj-X2.jpg


I can't tell you how many drill bits I ruined before I learned how to drill a hole the right way. It was a lot though. I was that person timidly pressing, no fluid, and smoking,chattering and screeching until the bit was ruined.

A hole saw in steel exacerbates the issues. Go very slow, not crawling but say at the speed of your mixer on 1. Put a lot of pressure into the drill so it's cutting. If you don't do this you're just heating up the bit which is making it dull. In order to keep the bit from getting hot and then dull you should use some cutting fluid. You can use regular oil but tapping fluid or cutting fluid is better. I use LPS's Tapmatic but there's plenty of them out there and all are better than oil. The exception to this rule is WD40 - it's great for aluminum. Don't be alarmed when the bit starts to smoke - that's the cutting fluid doing it's job. Add more of it.

i-5CjTmH7-X2.jpg


Here's all the tools I used to drill and tap the screws for the trailer receptacle. From the left are center punches. These are sized to the hole and make sure your center punch is dead center in whatever your trying to align and drill. Way better than the sharpie dot or the "I think that's the middle" methods. Then a hammer - one solid rap with the hammer, not multiple taps because you want only one divot for the drill to center on. Correct form is to yell, "Center!" before you whack the center so as to not alarm your shop mates.

i-HNwtnJP-X2.jpg


Cutting fluid in a spill proof container - we're still on the photo above the center tapping one - (get that from McMaster). So then there's the single center punch that's sized for the hole on the flange. Then the drill bit. Technically I should be using a center drill before the drill as they start holes better than a normal bit. Then I run the tap through to thread the hole in the bumper because why would I want to fiddle with nuts back there?

i-Jk2tLjc-X2.jpg


So for now that's done. This one took about 5-6 hours so far.

The back up light cut outs I think I'll use them for my dirt bike carrying idea but I want to get the spare mount going and see how large the extra lights I ordered are. So I've mounted it up and I'm going to just let it rust until it's appropriately steam punk. Actually when the rest of the parts show up I'll finish them so that will probably be next week.

But there's still plenty to do.

Gregor
 

paranoid56

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 18, 2008
Messages
1,596
Location
San Diego, Ca
Baja Designs also makes a neat flush mounted light that i use for my reverse lights. much smaller then most out there. The S2 ones.
And if you need any just let me know as we are a dealer for them.
 

CudaChick1968

Member Emeritus
Joined
Jul 1, 2011
Messages
1,800
Location
Northwest Tennessee (38230)
Royal Gorge Suspension Bridge. I'd highly recommend anyone looking to make some quick cash to start an underwear stand at either end of the bridge. Yes it's that high and it only gets worse when a car or truck drives past you on it...

https://royalgorgebridge.com/


Ha! I lived in Canon City for over ten years and worked just down the road at Buckskin Joe taking Texans on trail rides for several summers. The bridge is awesome! The tram is really cool too, and the incline railway will leave you breathless (and hoping you make it back to the top).
 

Pressingonward

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 9, 2016
Messages
522
Location
SW WA
...However, reading this thread I’m reminded of their can-do attitude, of the idea that any problem can be fixed with a enough dedication, and of the camaraderie of those with mechanical skills and interests.

There are plenty of single-topic forums providing granular detail on their core area, but I’ve never found another place where everyone gets excited about old craigslist machine tools, new expensive wood tools, obscure mechanical pencils, modified motorcycles, expedition vehicles, midcentury modern architecture, camping, shooting (without the political overlay), wristwatches, photography and photographic equipment and generally just value the opportunity to learn a new fact about the world we live in and how to shape it. There may be a personality type associated with this… It feels a lot like that shop full of WWII vets that I haven’t found an equivalent to in decades.

I’m convinced you’re the poster child - you're a regular guy with mechanical skill, a good bit of dedication, and a healthy amount of OCD who jumps into projects of all types out of a love of learning something new, sometimes with pre-existing expertise and sometimes with little more than the knowledge that you have the ability to develop it. You’ve also been kind enough to give us a window into your life and your family, which is humanizing and endearing. Although we’ve never met, I feel like we (most of the readership of this) would all enjoy having a beer together. That, I think, is why this is the best thread I’ve read in years, and why I felt the need to stop lurking in the shadows and post something. Thank you.

:+1:

Well put Brian; I agree 100% with what you've said.

Gregor, I have to thank you for introducing me to Garage Journal. I followed you over here from your KTM build(s) on ADVRider. Thanks for taking the time to document so many areas of daily life for us to enjoy. You should totally have that BBQ...I'd love to meet you and talk shop in person

Have you seen Vieux's thread from Russia? https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235063 I just discovered it and read through it this week. I bring it up because I notice a certain shared passion for learning, trying new things, and can-do attitude in his thread that I first saw in yours. Carry on!

Justin
 

AP2TUDE

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 14, 2007
Messages
84
Location
Rockwall, TX
It may not fully fit within the 90s retro off road vibe of your rig, but IMHO when it comes to brake lights, function is more valuable than form.

I have seen quite a few of these lights recently on Jeeps, and it's a great utilization of surface area for that space. Might be beneficial considering your new spare tire placement.

It's all inspirational, as always, Gregor.

Rugged-Ridge-Tercera-Luz-Freno-Led-Circular-Doble-Traccion-1.jpg
 

zmotorsports

ALLIANCE MEMBER
Joined
Oct 20, 2009
Messages
21,440
Location
Northern Utah
Like so many others, I've been lurking on garage journal for years without joining or posting. And, like so many others, for some reason I'm choosing to make my first post right here, after discovering this thread and reading it through from beginning to (current) end over a few days. And ordering a new (old) mechanical pencil from ebay. Thanks for that, by the way.

Why? I think because this thread made me realize what I love about garage journal. Like many of us, I spent a significant amount of time in my teens in a shop with a bunch of old WWII guys, ostensibly learning some metalwork, machining, and engine rebuilding, but really being mentored on life, work ethic, and problem solving (as well as a few lewd jokes). Sadly those guys have long since died (and my machining skills with them due to disuse) but the life lessons have persisted. However, reading this thread I’m reminded of their can-do attitude, of the idea that any problem can be fixed with a enough dedication, and of the camaraderie of those with mechanical skills and interests.

There are plenty of single-topic forums providing granular detail on their core area, but I’ve never found another place where everyone gets excited about old craigslist machine tools, new expensive wood tools, obscure mechanical pencils, modified motorcycles, expedition vehicles, midcentury modern architecture, camping, shooting (without the political overlay), wristwatches, photography and photographic equipment and generally just value the opportunity to learn a new fact about the world we live in and how to shape it. There may be a personality type associated with this… It feels a lot like that shop full of WWII vets that I haven’t found an equivalent to in decades.

I’m convinced you’re the poster child - you're a regular guy with mechanical skill, a good bit of dedication, and a healthy amount of OCD who jumps into projects of all types out of a love of learning something new, sometimes with pre-existing expertise and sometimes with little more than the knowledge that you have the ability to develop it. You’ve also been kind enough to give us a window into your life and your family, which is humanizing and endearing. Although we’ve never met, I feel like we (most of the readership of this) would all enjoy having a beer together. That, I think, is why this is the best thread I’ve read in years, and why I felt the need to stop lurking in the shadows and post something. Thank you.

In the interest of adding something to the thread other than some musings, I did have a question. I’m moving in a few months and will finally have my own shop and the space for machine tools. Did you have any recommendations for good lathes or vertical mills to look for on the used market? You seem to have put substantial thought into each of your purchases, and there are limited web resources that are open and friendly to amateurs. It would be nice to figure out what is out there that has the quality to do real work without necessarily paying for features I will never have the skill to use.

Very well said Brian, I couldn't agree more. This is my favorite forum hands down for reasons you've mentioned.:thumbup:


Hijack alert,

Brian, I guess you haven't found Hobby Machinist yet?

https://www.hobby-machinist.com/

Very friendly place to ask questions and they have threads for most brands of machinery.

I joined after following Mike from Zmotorsports on GJ and enjoyed his youtube reviews of his Precision Matthews Lathe and Mill.

Hijack complete.


David.

Thank you David, I appreciate the flattering comments.
 
OP
S

sakurama

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 10, 2010
Messages
1,458
Location
Portland - the cool one.
So while waiting on the swing out assembly to get here I was stalled on the bumpers but had finally found some seat tracks through Car-part.com and they came with seats...

i-TFNXxkP-X2.jpg


Last year I picked up a set of pretty new stock seats but of course they didn't have the slides so they've sat in plastic bags on our porch. I am riding the ragged edge between handy and white trash and have been since I started this whole house thing. The van has pushed the needle a bit. Anyway, junk yard seat and new one...

i-sWnWZ3x-X2.jpg


The thing is the seats have to come out...

i-vf67F7g-X2.jpg


And if the seats come out I might as well pull the mat and sound deaden the front half. I mean, while it's apart...

i-VmNg8BL-X2.jpg


When I see this photo I realize that, perhaps, just maybe, I've entered into the realm of midcentury "blanco garbagé" I mean, let's be honest, that scene is a hot mess. How Jwoo tolerates it is beyond me.

i-bzGznKx-X2.jpg


RattleTrap the entire floor and as far up the firewall as I can reach.

i-2dfJt6B-X2.jpg


Then I had a just enough of the Mass Loaded Vinyl to do the floor.

i-FbFcRMS-X2.jpg


I'm always amazed at what people you hire do where you can't see. That amp is held in with drywall screws and I consider the drywall screw anywhere but drywall to be a bit of a fail.

i-C7SZzdG-X2.jpg


Of course I didn't have the correct self tapping sheet metal screw either so I suppose I'm only one notch above the drywall screw. I did however replace that folded piece of plastic with some delrin spacers spun up on the lathe - it's much more solid.

i-LkFFh5r-X2.jpg


And it's all back together with the new seats. Much more comfy, better looking and it's a fair bit quieter now so it was a good holdover project. Now I need to get rid of all those other seats.

i-KBhp3j9-X2.jpg


Sunset photos are to photographers as chocolate is to pastry chefs. We resent them because everyone loves them no matter if they're good or bad. Nonetheless when a client asks you to photograph a future development location you shoot the sunset - chocolate cake for you sir?

What this photo really shows you is the need for a roof rack. So I went out and bought one and a ladder too:

i-DbnrCxw-X2.jpg


Some assembly required.

i-9WcRstb-X2.jpg


I should probably be using sketch up but it's easier for me to take some photos of the van and then print them out and draw on top of them for a bit. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do but this is a rough idea. It will need to wait because I discovered that my bender and the new dies won't bend aluminum without delrin followers so I ordered them and will use the time to work on the bumper again and practice my aluminum welding in preparation for the roof rack.

And good news - our big magazine shoot was postponed until November so the pressure is off and I can work on the van and the bike without a (looming) deadline.

Happy 4th all!

Gregor
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom