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Modifications to the HF 4 and 5 drawer service carts - what changes have you made?

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dougdoberman

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Kinda like a newb posting on a thread postulating on other people's reasons for stickering THEIR tool cart, just to feed his ego?:lol_hitti

A newb to what?

This forum? Not really, I've lurked for a long time.

This thread? Sure. Just recently picked up a 5-drawer and was looking for any interesting modifications.

Tools? Fragile egos in the workplace? Mechanics who need to measure their ball peen size by the cost of their gear? Nah, I've been around that for 30+ years. Which is why I'm not really surprised that so many guys only modification is to remove the US General badging and replace it with Snap On.
 

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Finally checked this off of my to-do list. Added a dense black layer of carpet runner on top of the service cart as a part work surface, and mounted a small vice. Should come in handy!

Before:
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Runner attached:
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Closeup:
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With vice:
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Top still opens well:
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I just did a paint job on mine because I didn’t want the plain black. I wanted to remove those studs that prevent the rest of the doors from opening if the lid is shut. I couldn’t unbolt them for whatever reason so I just chopped them so they wouldn’t engage. I’ll also put some hdpe sheet on the lid since this will mostly be used for composites/fiberglass work.


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You must work with fiberglass boats? All my buddies with glass fishing boats have that painted on their decks, coolers, etc.
 

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You must work with fiberglass boats? All my buddies with glass fishing boats have that painted on their decks, coolers, etc.

Nope, but that explains it. I copied some stuff from my uncle's garage, including jetski racks and boat racks...so there you go.
 

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They need to bring the coupon back... course it'd be gone when I finally have some extra tool money...
 

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They need to bring the coupon back... course it'd be gone when I finally have some extra tool money...

"The Coupon"???
Probably not the one you wanted, but here is one.

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Tanro

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Dude thanks a bunch. I couldn't find this, been searching for 2 days.

Time to hit the Hazard Fraught and get my cart. Hope they have side trays in blue... Already got a few ideas for mods, but mostly i need a roll around again.
 

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I don't know if this video has been posted. But he makes some modifications to the five drawer in order to make it the same as the Blue Point cart.

 

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If this is a bad post feel free to remove it. But I have several drawers from the Harbor Freight red tool cart, so if anyone needs some feel free to contact me.
 

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If this is a bad post feel free to remove it. But I have several drawers from the Harbor Freight red tool cart, so if anyone needs some feel free to contact me.

I may be interested in one. Which drawers do you have available?
 

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Has anybody here removed the side handle and would like to sell the black plastic end caps? I'm missing one and my OCD is driving me crazy...
 
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I've looked through the last few pages (trying to make my way through the whole thread again), but I haven't seen this discussed: are the newer 4-drawer carts compatible with the older models?

They look to be the same dimensions, but I was hoping to pick up another 4-drawer to make the double-stacked configuration like a lot of you guys have done.
 

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What size nuts/bolts are you guys using to attach stuff like hooks, pegboard, etc.? Seems like this isn't a high stress or high torque application, so I'm thinking relatively small fasteners, maybe even with Phillips heads, would be fine.
 

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What size nuts/bolts are you guys using to attach stuff like hooks, pegboard, etc.? Seems like this isn't a high stress or high torque application, so I'm thinking relatively small fasteners, maybe even with Phillips heads, would be fine.


It depends on what you're going through to fasten them to. If you're going through drywall to get to a stud. I would assume a 1/2 inch thickness on the drywall and use 2.5-inch construction screws. They are cheap and don't usually rust due to their coating or plating. I like my screws about six inches apart. The only load on pegboard is the weight of tools trying to pull it down the wall. Damn gravity.



Also, if you're hanging pegboard, you may need to space it away from the wall a little to allow the hooks to slide in easier. I use 1x2 lath. It's actually 5/8 x 1.5 or at least the stuff my local Lowe's sales is.
 

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The fastener to use is entirely dependant on WHAT you are attaching to the cart... to which... is what we are asking.
Hooks, pegboard. Might attach a couple of cordless impacts to a 16"x16" metal pegboard, but that would be secured to the cart using 4 fasteners. On another similar 16" square of pegboard, I might attach a wire basket and fill it with 4-6 spray cans.

Hooks would get 2 fasteners - might use a hook to hold something like an extension cord.

So I'm not attaching very heavy stuff, and not loading much weight (as I perceive it) on an individual fastener.

I'm just not familiar with best practices as it relates to matching fastener size to loads. I could use large diameter bolts, but that seems like overkill for the application and requires drilling unnecessarily large holes in the cart.
 
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The choice of fasteners for me...

Steel rivets for peg board sides... 3/16" you need to measure for proper length.

Hooks... I would match the original lag bolt size or use longer lag bolts and mount them in existing holes.
I don't have a riveter, but maybe this is a good excuse to get one. Seems hand riveters are inexpensive. Aluminum rivets seem very cheap, but steel rivets seem on par with nuts and bolts pricing.

Why use a rivet for this instead of nuts and bolts? I can access both sides of the angle steel that comprises the legs of the cart.
 

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Since the cart is made out of steel... you would use steel rivets... in case you wanted to know why.
Makes sense, avoid galvanic corrosion.

To be honest... sheet metal to flat peg board is a clear choice for rivets... if you want nuts and bolts ... go that route
To be honest, I don't know what I want simply because of lack of familiarity with riveting.

But it does seem like a great option for securing stuff to the cart's lid and not having bolt heads creating large bumps in whatever material is topping the lid. That, and I'll take your word on rivets being preferable fastener for pegboard to sheet metal.
 

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Ahh yeah. I got my threads cornfuzed. :tard:

LOL. I was reading your post with my WTF face thinking I'd missed some bizarre cart + drywall mod in this massive thread, until I realized you were mixing up threads.

I hate when that happens (to me). I usually own up to it and then don't log on for a week or longer because of internet embarrassment.
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However, back to the question. For most things up to 200lbs my rule of thumb is almost always 1/4-20 fasteners. They are stronger than they look, are easy to find almost everywhere(at least in non metric countries), and if you have any strength of application doubts you can just use more of them because they really don't take up much room. Easy and economical to keep larger quantities (small boxes of 25 or 50) on hand. They are also readily available in several flavors including SS and black oxide cap heads etc.
Caveat: I don't own a HF Cart yet but I plan to get one soon before any tariffs start to mess things up.
 

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I don't have a riveter, but maybe this is a good excuse to get one. Seems hand riveters are inexpensive. Aluminum rivets seem very cheap, but steel rivets seem on par with nuts and bolts pricing.

Why use a rivet for this instead of nuts and bolts? I can access both sides of the angle steel that comprises the legs of the cart.
Menards sells a rivnut gun now, 14$ goes up to 1/4-20 works great

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I was gonna mount my drill press to a black 4 drawer that's my welding cart, but after picking up this 88 craftsman at auction for 100 with a huot top box I changed direction, it turned out pretty good, 7a8472c3ac4e16116032bfefa7ab159e.jpg

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Yep, I did the same. My experience was the metal pegboard from Lowes was a better fit than the plastic one from Home depot
I was looking at this pegboard online: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-1-Piece-Steel-Pegboard-Actual-16-in-x-16-in/50220687

The pic shows the mounting holes on the edges, and at 16" wide, this works for the 4-drawer cart. But the reviews say the mounting holes are 12" apart. Did you have to run some flat bar or similar material between the cart's uprights in order to mount the pegboard, or did you bypass the mounting holes and secure the pegboard to the cart's uprights?

Edit: I think I figured it out - those holes along the edges aren't mounting holes, they are meant to secure adjacent panels to one another so that pegboard hole spacing is continuous across panels. The actual mounting holes are a couple of inches in from the edge. So for attaching to the cart's uprights, probably easiest to use one of the pegboard holes along the edge (enlarging as necessary for fastener to be used).
 
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