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My 30X40 build! Finally!!

Sheepdogmarine

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Well, finally after 42 years on this earth, we are getting underway with my very first garage! No more rent.

My goal is to have it complete by the end of April. Permit process was a slight pain and by the time I finally got it, we had 5 straight weeks of rain. Winter came and I sort of wrote off doing anything until spring. I got a call last Monday that we were digging footers Thursday and pouring Friday. I couldn't believe it. Finally!

It was 28 degrees while digging footers. Our ground water is very high here and after the 6th bucket we has a gusher. We found a stump that I had paid to get rid of years ago.:mad: That slowed us down for an hour and a half. The hole it left made a nice place for a sump to drain off the water. We ran a two inch pump all day. What a pain!

The building inspector was way cool. He just came by and measured the hole to be sure we were right. Minimum is 8" deep and 18" wide. He then continued to say that he went to a cold weather concrete class and said it was okay to pour even over an inch of ice. The water in the hole was not a problem, just push it around to the sump and keep pumping the water off.

I did order a pump truck as well because the ground, while frozen, does not work well with big trucks in the muck.

I really get envious of you guys digging in nice, dry earth.:thumbup:

Footers are a little overbuilt to deal with the cold/water. They are 24" wide and 10" deep. Two rows of 1/2" rebar. We used 3500 lb instead of 2500. I trusted everyone to add the correct additives and it seems to have worked out.

The were two little streams of water coming in the entire time we were pouring and about an hour after finishing the pour, the footers were covered with water. By 10 that night, they had 8" of water on them. The block guy said this was good as it would help cure the concrete. He did not want me to pump the water off as it would help it cure and insulate it. After 54 hours in 26-28 degree weather, there finally was a little ice on the water. He had said the heat of the concrete would keep it from freezing.

I sure hope this all works out. I have been very nervous about doing all of this now, but am glad to get it done.

This morning, we are going to break off the ice and pump off the water to see what is underneath. The block man is doing this as he wants to do the block this week. Tomorrow, our weather is going to be 40 or above for a week or so. Pretty scary, but we will see how it turns out.

Now, I'll try to get the pics up.:bounce:

Have a nice day,

Eric
 
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Sheepdogmarine

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great start we have a really high water table around here (chapman, neb) and we have to deal with that all the time if we get too much rain over a couple days half of my yard sits in like 5 or 6inches of water!! I think it would have been nice to do block foundation on mine at least a block run or two but we just opted for pouring the concrete higher like 41/2 inches or so!! I see that wouldnt of worked there!!
 
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Nice block work.

They don't worry about the ground freezing and getting the footing below the frost line there? Seems like that would be a recipe for disaster. Especially with a block wall.

Tim
 
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I find it truley amazing and hold these guys in high regard for working in this kind of weather.

Well, it definately helps that building everywhere is S-L-O-O-O-W-W-W right now. I was also amazed they wanted to do it now.

It is a little sad things are so slow, but it is a good time to be building. Materials and labor are cheaper than they were two years ago.

And I am the guy thawing out the blocks! I did learn today that ******* cinder blocks makes you a little tired.
 
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great start we have a really high water table around here (chapman, neb) and we have to deal with that all the time if we get too much rain over a couple days half of my yard sits in like 5 or 6inches of water!! I think it would have been nice to do block foundation on mine at least a block run or two but we just opted for pouring the concrete higher like 41/2 inches or so!! I see that wouldnt of worked there!!

After talking with many people around here, I am convinced there is not a house around here that was built with dry footers. The block guys were telling me one house they did the first course of block completely underwater. They have just learned to deal with it and go on. I have had a 2" pump running for two days just keeping out as much water as I can.

Nice block work.

Tim

They don't worry about the ground freezing and getting the footing below the frost line there? Seems like that would be a recipe for disaster. Especially with a block wall.

The ground was frozen the first 3-4 inches. We dug them, kept pumps running all night and that moving water never froze. We poured and just pushed the water around with the concrete towards the sump we made. About 4 hours after pouring the footer, they were covered in 8 inches of water. The heat of the concrete kept it from freezing for about 2.5 days. Then the top froze an inch or two. We broke the ice off, pumped it out and started the block. The weather just happened to break enough t get it done.

The footer is actually 24"deep and ten inches thick so it is below the frost line. The first three courses of block will be covered as well.

I find it amazing that we can do this as well, especially with the water. That is the main reason I wanted lots of pics up, just to show what can be done.

The inspector will be here in the morning and then we get to do the slab and framing. Stay Tuned!
 
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I just had the form work on my 30x40 rejected due to a few rocks in the subgrade, we put a few in the trench so we didn't sink while working. The inspector ordered a geotechnical report now because he thinks we used rock everywhere. He also complained it's wet... It's bc in the winter. What a douche bag.
 
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Sheepdogmarine

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I just had the form work on my 30x40 rejected due to a few rocks in the subgrade, we put a few in the trench so we didn't sink while working. The inspector ordered a geotechnical report now because he thinks we used rock everywhere. He also complained it's wet... It's bc in the winter. What a douche bag.

That stinks! The guys doing mine said if we had been in another county, we would have had more problems, like adding rocks and soil samples.

While this kind of ground is not ideal for easy building, the inspector said there is not a foundation around that is not like mine. I guess people have just learned how to deal with it and work around it.

Are you in Maryland?

Good Luck!

Eric
 
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Sheepdogmarine

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No updates as of yet either. We have had record amounts of snow and it is just crazy. They could do the footers in this cold and wet, but it needs to be nicer to do the floor. Right now, there is still over 2 feet of snow covering everything.

Will post more once we get some done.
 
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Well I have two Old English Sheepdogs and I work on boats for a living. Hence, Sheepdog Marine. When I named the company, I did not realize the military meaning of it and have been asked about it several times.

I actually served in the Army and drove M1 tanks, so I did do my part. I was just very fortunate there was never an armed conflict while I was in. I really appreciate everything guys and girls in our military do for us.

Once I did realize the meaning of Sheepdog Marine, I realized it did actually fit, I was just not a marine.

Wet and Cold makes me grumpy too. Our previous snow total record was around 64", we are over 83" so far this year and it is snowing again. UGH!
 
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