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Good info. Thanks guys.

I've never had any issues with odors or anything like that but a "citris-y" aroma may not be a bad thing from some Lysol.

My new shop doesn't have a specific smell yet. I kind of miss my last shop that smelled like a machine shop with a hint of race fuel. LOVED that smell. I wish I could have bottled it and brought it with me.:bounce:

Race fuel makes anything smell good!
 
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Mike, I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Old friends are great treasures and it hurts to lose one, I know. I'll say a prayer for you and your pal's family. Keep your chin up and hold on to your memories.

Mike

I'm so sorry to hear this Mike. It's a unfortunate and often times unexplainable series of circumstances that have long term endearing friendships lose contact over time. Sadly it happens to most all of us. Everyone will tell you to focus on the good times you all spent together as you should but it still doesn't help with that overwhelming feeling of guilt you're dealing with right now. You two grew up together and as long as you're alive recounting those memories he'll still live on. I've lost a few very close friends but I'm not certain that death is that finite line that ends those relationships spiritually.

My deepest condolences to his family and to you and your wife my friend.

Thanks guys.

I just can't stop thinking about how I should have tried harder to stay in contact with him and his wife. I know we all tell ourselves life gets busy and all and I'm no different but that's kind of a lame *** excuse.

We had some great times together. The wife and I sat on the deck last night and reminisced about some of the stupid **** we did with him and his wife when we were younger but the fun times we had.

We truck pulled together, drag raced together, duned together and although were great friends there was always that competitiveness between us. We helped each other wrench on our **** then went out and raced against each other for bragging rights. We had great times together back when I don't think I had two nickels to rub together at the time.

I feel so sorry for his wife and daughter to lose a great guy so young.

Thanks for the comments guys.
 
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Race fuel makes anything smell good!

Ain't that the truth Dan.

I remember when I sold the sand rail I still had a jug and a half of premixed race fuel left over. I ran it in my lawn mower for the better part of that summer and loved the aroma my yard had after mowing the lawn.:)
 

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Ain't that the truth Dan.

I remember when I sold the sand rail I still had a jug and a half of premixed race fuel left over. I ran it in my lawn mower for the better part of that summer and loved the aroma my yard had after mowing the lawn.:)

The best smelling 2-stroke mix uses Castrol R30. That's what we used in the Yamaha TD and TR racebikes.
 
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The best smelling 2-stroke mix uses Castrol R30. That's what we used in the Yamaha TD and TR racebikes.

There's nothing like the smell of bean oil.

Mike

Agreed. In our 2-strokes we ran both the Castrol as well as Klotz with our Sunoco purple race fuel. LOVED that smell. Wish I could get that smell into our new shop but now that I no longer own any 2-strokes I doubt the new shop will ever smell like the old one. I think the closest I'm going to be able to come is machining lubricant aroma. Oh well, that's a pretty good smell as well.:bounce:
 

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Agreed. In our 2-strokes we ran both the Castrol as well as Klotz with our Sunoco purple race fuel. LOVED that smell. Wish I could get that smell into our new shop but now that I no longer own any 2-strokes I doubt the new shop will ever smell like the old one. I think the closest I'm going to be able to come is machining lubricant aroma. Oh well, that's a pretty good smell as well.:bounce:

Put a little in the Harley gas tank. :bounce:

Back in the 1980s, the Castrol rep would come to our vintage road races with his trailer and pass out Castrol products free. I could usually get a couple of cases of R plus hypoid and brake fluid, and all he asked was that we put their stickers on our bikes. His name was Walter Von Schoenfeld.
 

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Mike sorry to hear of your loss.

I just can't stop thinking about how I should have tried harder to stay in contact with him and his wife. I know we all tell ourselves life gets busy and all and I'm no different but that's kind of a lame *** excuse.

No need to beat yourself up Mike. Life does get busy and obligations change. You had your interests and he had his. It would be a much different story had you wasted your life and neglected him or your relationship. Remember the good times. We all find ourselves in this situation sooner or later as we age.

Godspeed to your friend.
 
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Mike sorry to hear of your loss.



No need to beat yourself up Mike. Life does get busy and obligations change. You had your interests and he had his. It would be a much different story had you wasted your life and neglected him or your relationship. Remember the good times. We all find ourselves in this situation sooner or later as we age.

Godspeed to your friend.

Thanks for commenting Pat, I appreciate that.
 

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Mike sorry to hear of your loss, I still have a few friends from childhood not sure how I will handle it if any of them pass before me. again sorry for your loss god luck with every thing.
 

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Mike, I am sorry to read about your friend. I can relate to the things in life that get In the way of or make us lose track of the. Important aspects of our lives. The recent events with my wife and son were a sobering reminder to slow down a little and to spend more time enjoying those around me.

It is hard losing a good friend, especially one with whom you have shared many memories. It has happened to many of us and the best we can do is to try and use it as a reminder to appreciate our family and friends. So, enjoy that weekend breakfast with your wife, tell your son how much you enjoy your shop time together and don’t be too upset when you get a call or email from California asking you how to build fenders...or from Texas should that ever happen.....


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Duker, just you wait till I hunt down you're number. I've got to do a new kitchen soon soooo it'll be your turn. Muhahahaha ;)
 
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Mike, I am sorry to read about your friend. I can relate to the things in life that get In the way of or make us lose track of the. Important aspects of our lives. The recent events with my wife and son were a sobering reminder to slow down a little and to spend more time enjoying those around me.

It is hard losing a good friend, especially one with whom you have shared many memories. It has happened to many of us and the best we can do is to try and use it as a reminder to appreciate our family and friends. So, enjoy that weekend breakfast with your wife, tell your son how much you enjoy your shop time together and don’t be too upset when you get a call or email from California asking you how to build fenders...or from Texas should that ever happen.....


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Thanks for the comments Duke. I was just thinking about quite a bit of what you mentioned in your post last night actually. I was working in the yard, adding a couple of sprinkler heads (AGAIN) when I was taking a break and lying on the grass looking up at the clouds trying to cool off and clear my head. Being near 100 degrees again yesterday and sweating my *** off in the yard I was getting a bit punchy and wasn't sure if it was my state of mind or just the damn heat getting to me.:headscrat My wife had just gotten home and was sitting on the steps talking with me. I had mentioned that I'm too young to have friends my age start to pass away due to health issues.

I told her last year I lost probably my closest friend and mentor and now a long time friend from my high school days. Although we hadn't stayed in as close contact as I would have liked over the past several years, I still counted him as a close friend as silly as that sounds. He was one of those guys that even though I hadn't seen him in a while I could call and he could be there to help with anything. One of those types of friends.

I didn't have many friends in high school and have even fewer now and to have them passing away was a quick reminder to cherish my time with those I love and care about.

As for the phone calls from fellow forum members, I don't get upset at that one bit. My only complaint is that I have not had the opportunity to meet many of my fellow forum members that I consider friends.:beer:
 

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Ain't that the truth Dan.

I remember when I sold the sand rail I still had a jug and a half of premixed race fuel left over. I ran it in my lawn mower for the better part of that summer and loved the aroma my yard had after mowing the lawn.:)

I can so see myself doing that! HaHaHA
 

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I remember when I sold the sand rail I still had a jug and a half of premixed race fuel left over. I ran it in my lawn mower for the better part of that summer and loved the aroma my yard had after mowing the lawn.:)

The real question is did you mow faster? :3gears:
 
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Last night I was able to get my Jeep back together and on the road. I’ll tackle the brakes and transmission service this weekend.

New water pump ready for installation.
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Surface cleaned and ready to accept the new water pump and gasket.
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Water pump installed, vacuum pulled on cooling system, cooling system filled and belt installed. Ready to test drive.
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After a successful road test I decided to take a quick look at a friend’s 2003 Wide Glide that had the front fork tube come out of the upper tree and cap. It lost some oil so I need to drain and refill with the proper quantity.
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I thought I had enough fork oil in the cabinet but I only had about a half pint so I swept up for the evening and will have to pick up so more fork oil this afternoon on the way home.
 

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Also on a side note, I received a phone call yesterday saying my new Handy SAM 2 lift table that I ordered last month is finally in stock and ready to ship next week so I have that to look forward to arriving. It sure would make the job I have in the shop now easier. To be able to drop out either the front or rear of the lift table to remove tires/wheels is the main reason I decided to upgrade one of my lifts. That and the fact that I wasn't really pleased with my Direct Lift Pro Cycle lift table. I'll keep my original Handy lift table for those long term projects.
 

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Did I read that right that the lower tube unscrewed from the cap?


What didn't you like about the direct lift Mike. I've been looking at bike lifts lately and will be getting one before I start in on my project and DL was in the running.

Thanks Cam
 
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Did I read that right that the lower tube unscrewed from the cap?


What didn't you like about the direct lift Mike. I've been looking at bike lifts lately and will be getting one before I start in on my project and DL was in the running.

Thanks Cam

Yes Cam, the upper tube unscrewed itself from the top cap. Don't ask me how as I have not seen that before. When he was telling me about it, my first thought was that the lock screw and top cap came loose from the upper tree and allowed the vibrations to back the upper cap out of the tube. However, when I checked the upper tree last night everything was tight which means the upper tube actually backed out. Again, I have not seen that before.

As for the Direct Lift, maybe I'm just being overly critical as I know many people have them and love the Direct Lift, especially over on hdforums.com, but I bought it because it was a lot cheaper than the Handy lift and I wish I would have just bought another Handy instead.

Everyone has their own opinions and many like the fact that the Direct Lift is made out of diamond plate whereas the Handy is smooth 12-gauge steel. I do not like the tread plate and much prefer the smooth plate. People on the HDforums seem to like the tread plate design for two reasons, first because they are not as slippery. I have never had an issue with my Handy being slippery or where I felt it was unsafe. Second thing they comment on is the tread plate design keeps parts from rolling or falling off the smooth table finish. I don't lie parts loosely on my table, that is why I have parts trays/pans so that isn't an issue.

Lastly, and maybe this was just mine, but it didn't seem anywhere near as smooth in operation that my Handy does. I had taken it apart over the years and checked for binding, burrs or anything else causing it to hang up or be jerky with the only thing I didn't tear into being the cylinder itself. Raising and lowering it was nowhere near as smooth as my Handy lift.

Sorry to rag on the Direct Lift but I was just not impressed and lived with its defaults (at least in my eyes) for the past ten or twelve years but I had enough and sold it to replace it with the new SAM 2 that Handy now has released.

Sorry for the long explanation to a rather short question. I'm sure it is just me because a lot of people love their Direct Lift Pro Cycle motorcycle lift tables and maybe I'm just being too picky. I thought I would throw mine up for sale and if it sold I would replace it with the new Handy and it sold rather quickly.

Don't take my word alone on it though Cam, if you can find someone in your area that has one go and put your eyes and hands on it and make see for yourself, then compare it to a Handy. In my eyes there is quite a difference.
 
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is there an painting tools or technique in here?

Sorry, I don't do much paint & body any more.

If you really want to see some amazing paint and body threads there are a few I can think of by Robert @ MP&C Shop Projects, Don Long's shop projects or Joe (HD FLX) over on his thread BP&B Shop Projects, just to name a few. All of those guys do some amazing paint and body work.

I do have some clearcoat issues on my son's truck and a small rust repair section that I will be repairing on his Jeep in the future but for the most part I try to avoid paint and body work these days.

Sorry to disappoint ya but thanks for stopping by.
 

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As always Mike your experience was thoroughly recounted and will be taken into consideration. I'm not a fan of diamond plate myself for a surface because unlike yourself there's no doubt I'll use it to set something down. And it'd be just my luck, I'd forget just how long it took me to perfectly polish that piece I made right up until the exact moment I accidentally knocked it sideways across the tread. :p
 
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As always Mike your experience was thoroughly recounted and will be taken into consideration. I'm not a fan of diamond plate myself for a surface because unlike yourself there's no doubt I'll use it to set something down. And it'd be just my luck, I'd forget just how long it took me to perfectly polish that piece I made right up until the exact moment I accidentally knocked it sideways across the tread. :p

I would like to see you be able to find one nearby to look at Cam. I feel bad for not giving it a favorable review and many may think I am just being too picky about it because I know that there are a LOT of people who have them and like them, at least according to what they post on forums. I was just not impressed with mine, especially having a Handy sitting right next to it for comparison. Maybe if I had never used or owned a Handy I would have been more pleased with the Direct Lift.
 

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Yes Cam, the upper tube unscrewed itself from the top cap. Don't ask me how as I have not seen that before. When he was telling me about it, my first thought was that the lock screw and top cap came loose from the upper tree and allowed the vibrations to back the upper cap out of the tube. However, when I checked the upper tree last night everything was tight which means the upper tube actually backed out. Again, I have not seen that before.

Damn, that would make my **** pucker, when I realized one of my forks was coming apart! :scared:

So that means that the lower clamp must have been loose instead, right? I'm sure his steering felt a bit wonky for the last few rides.
 

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Damn, that would make my **** pucker, when I realized one of my forks was coming apart! :scared:

So that means that the lower clamp must have been loose instead, right? I'm sure his steering felt a bit wonky for the last few rides.


Something I meant to mention earlier. That bike is so unbelievably detailed, how the hell did this guy not notice it was starting to come apart. There's just no way that one day the bike woke up and said fork, I got big plans for you today.

Feel like screwing off?? :lol_hitti


I'm thinking the lower triple tree doesn't have a set screw. :headscrat

And I know it goes without saying and I know Mike well enough to know he'll hit every nut and bolt on that ride before it leaves his shop....ya know :)
 
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Damn, that would make my **** pucker, when I realized one of my forks was coming apart! :scared:

So that means that the lower clamp must have been loose instead, right? I'm sure his steering felt a bit wonky for the last few rides.

I'll bet that lower clamp screw wasn't tightened at the factory. It's hiding under the tin cover over the lower clamp. That's an odd setup at the top clamp. Usually, the stanchion is clamped top and bottom and the top cap screws into the stanchion above the top clamp.
 
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Damn, that would make my **** pucker, when I realized one of my forks was coming apart! :scared:

So that means that the lower clamp must have been loose instead, right? I'm sure his steering felt a bit wonky for the last few rides.

That is what is ironic, I grabbed ahold of the upper tube thinking I could spin it and I could not turn it by hand. I could see where it had turned and worked its way out of the lower tree but it was far from loose. I will have more information on it once I get the front end of the bike up in the air and remove the front tire to remove the fork.
 
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Something I meant to mention earlier. That bike is so unbelievably detailed, how the hell did this guy not notice it was starting to come apart. There's just no way that one day the bike woke up and said fork, I got big plans for you today.

Feel like screwing off?? :lol_hitti


I'm thinking the lower triple tree doesn't have a set screw. :headscrat

And I know it goes without saying and I know Mike well enough to know he'll hit every nut and bolt on that ride before it leaves his shop....ya know :)

Yeah, I didn't want to beat up on his too bad but he usually takes pretty good care of his bike and keeps it cleaned and detailed. I don't know how in the hell he missed the exposed threads on the top of the fork tubes. I highly doubt those happened in one ride.
 
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I'll bet that lower clamp screw wasn't tightened at the factory. It's hiding under the tin cover over the lower clamp. That's an odd setup at the top clamp. Usually, the stanchion is clamped top and bottom and the top cap screws into the stanchion above the top clamp.

This one only has one 3/8" bolt on the lower tree that not only tightens the pinch clamp but also holds the turn signal on and no tin cover over it, the bolt acts as the pinch bolt as well as the fastener that retains the turn signal. It too was not loose. I agree that top tree is unique on these where they have a stanchion that fits up inside of the top tree with a cap bolt that holds the cap into the tree and a 1/4" screw that threads in from the side that hits a flat machined on the top stanchion to keep it from rotating.
 

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This one only has one 3/8" bolt on the lower tree that not only tightens the pinch clamp but also holds the turn signal on and no tin cover over it, the bolt acts as the pinch bolt as well as the fastener that retains the turn signal. It too was not loose. I agree that top tree is unique on these where they have a stanchion that fits up inside of the top tree with a cap bolt that holds the cap into the tree and a 1/4" screw that threads in from the side that hits a flat machined on the top stanchion to keep it from rotating.

That bike is 15 years old and has an unmarked front brake rotor. Was it just replaced or does he not use the front brake?
 
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That bike is 15 years old and has an unmarked front brake rotor. Was it just replaced or does he not use the front brake?

Can't answer that. I'm not working on the brakes. I just barely took a look at the upper tree last night before closing up the shop. I doubt he has replaced it as the bike has less than 10k miles on it total.
 
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That bike is 15 years old and has an unmarked front brake rotor. Was it just replaced or does he not use the front brake?



I can answer this now that I’ve been working on the bike.

Looks like normal wear to me. Pads are showing a bit of wear but still a lot of neat remaining. Rotor has typical wear marks/scratches and a couple you can feel.

Must have just been the lighting or the way I took the picture.


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My son wanted me to go with him to look at a bike at the Hundred Dollar store.

Sweet looking Street Glide with the Milwaukee 8.
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I think he is going to continue looking for a nice used bike rather than buy new. I’m pretty proud of him and his choices so far in life. He seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders and thinks things through.
 

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I finished up the Wide Glide tonight. I needed to focus on something else and try to clear my head after attending my friends viewing last night and funeral today.

Removed the fork assembly and emptied the last bit of remaining fluid.
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I confirmed the threads were not damaged in either the upper tube or the top cap/stanchion. I also dug through my cabinets and found the correct fork oil. Luckily I still had some from previous jobs.
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Ready to measure out the correct amount of fork oil.
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After adding the fork oil I installed the upper stanchion and inserted it up through the lower tree and into the upper tree so I could install the top bolt/plug and torque everything in place.
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I reattached the fender, the brake caliper and the fork brace, tightened the lower tree and reinstalled the left turn signal.
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Ready to accept the front tire.
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Bike completed and ready to lower and roll off the lift table.
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Ready for the owner to pick it up.
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