2018 Garage Sale Thread

[Private Lugnutz]

I’d never seen a Starrett ratchet before let alone an entire set, in an original wooden box, and I figured for $20 I couldn’t go wrong. On close examination, it will be a cool display piece, not much of a user.

Not much of a user? I should hope not. It's an antique! I give you Utilitarians some slack on the vintage tools, but c'mon, give the antiques the retirements they deserve! (Frankly, you couldn't use the ratchet or attachments with other sockets or the sockets with any other drive tools you have, anyway. See below.)

That's a nice snag, fowldarr! I've never seen an L.S. Starrett set in the wild and it's not one I have in my pressed-steel era collection. I have seen them in my research. Unlike a plethora of Mossberg copycats and others looking to get into the early auto maintenance market, they did not use the Mossberg sizing standard (11/16-inch external drive, 1/2-inch internal drive), hence you won't find any Mossberg sockets in that set, which is very common with other sets. My Smith & Hemenway, Triumph, and Syracuse sets all have Mossberg sockets, for example. (Tangentially, AA theorizes that they were replacements. I respectfully disagree. I think AA was supplying sockets to other makers.) Starrett used 5/8-inch external drive, which made the internal drive even smaller than 1/2-inch. I think AA has a decent write-up if you want to read more.

And yes, mid to late teens through early twenties and the advent of detachable forged sockets.

(Where is Lugs with his little book? )

Sleeping on the job again!

But the reason I went was this, the actual Long C Craftsman motor for my '37 six inch lathe. Works perfectly and I willingly forked over the $30.

Between my center latch and your motor it looks like we're on a little stars-align/last-missing-puzzle-piece-run as a thread!

 

[mattblast]

I could be wrong but here are closeups of the handles, compared to a few of my Stanleys.

Here’s the other side of the ones I got. It had the WF mark.

 

[LawnBoy-5247]

Went to a great Estate sale this weekend where everything was actually reasonably priced. I paid $35 for everything.

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[Outlawmws]

. (Tangentially, AA theorizes that they were replacements. I respectfully disagree. I think AA was supplying sockets to other makers.)


Between my center latch and your motor it looks like we're on a little stars-align/last-missing-puzzle-piece-run as a thread!

I think you meant Mossberg for the second AA reference?



I may be able to join that long C "stars in alignment" club as I have a 1937-40 Craftsman - Atlas Table saw with a broken motor mount. yesterday I found another with some other issues, and got it for cheap with the missing miter (and the fence) so I can make up one good one from the two. I still need the splitter "knife" and blade guard, but I'm significantly closer!

Pics still waiting for the thing to climb out of the back of the van...

 

[bmwrd0]

Outlaw, Lugz, I picked up this hobby from my dad, who went to the swap every weekend when I was a kid (the same swap that CatfishDan goes to) and while he had different tool choices than me, he always said "If you don't look, you don't find." We just keep our eyes open and stay in the hunt.

 

[fowldarr]

That Starret ratchet set is a real find! I'd love to see more pictures. I have never seen one.
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I’ll get some more pictures this afternoon. Anything specific you want to see?




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[fowldarr]

Not much of a user? I should hope not. It's an antique! I give you Utilitarians some slack on the vintage tools, but c'mon, give the antiques the retirements they deserve! (Frankly, you couldn't use the ratchet or attachments with other sockets or the sockets with any other drive tools you have, anyway. See below.) [emoji4]

That's a nice snag, fowldarr! I've never seen an L.S. Starrett set in the wild and it's not one I have in my pressed-steel era collection. I have seen them in my research. Unlike a plethora of Mossberg copycats and others looking to get into the early auto maintenance market, they did not use the Mossberg sizing standard (11/16-inch external drive, 1/2-inch internal drive), hence you won't find any Mossberg sockets in that set, which is very common with other sets. My Smith & Hemenway, Triumph, and Syracuse sets all have Mossberg sockets, for example. (Tangentially, AA theorizes that they were replacements. I respectfully disagree. I think AA was supplying sockets to other makers.) Starrett used 5/8-inch external drive, which made the internal drive even smaller than 1/2-inch. I think AA has a decent write-up if you want to read more.

And yes, mid to late teens through early twenties and the advent of detachable forged sockets.


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I was kind of joking about the ‘user’ part. It’s obviously a display piece. But I truly don’t have too many non-users despite most of my tools being older than I am.



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[Private Lugnutz]

I think you meant Mossberg for the second AA reference?

Yeah. That was a one cup of coffee post.

...while he had different tool choices than me, he always said "If you don't look, you don't find." We just keep our eyes open and stay in the hunt.

Amen to that brudder!

I was kind of joking

Me too. No worries.

 

[duddly]

I’ll get some more pictures this afternoon. Anything specific you want to see?

details on the ratchet, including any markings and how the sockets are marked as well. thanks.

And I hate to use '****' and 'Starret' in the same post but ... YOU ****! $20 is a great deal!

Starret also had some cool machinists plumb bobs that were filled with mercury, but those are actually pretty common. The mercury supposedly helped it stay still. I have never seen one of these sets, and it is in amazing condition. I would clean the box, but nothing else.

 

[fowldarr]

details on the ratchet, including any markings and how the sockets are marked as well. thanks.

And I hate to use '****' and 'Starret' in the same post but ... YOU ****! $20 is a great deal!

Starret also had some cool machinists plumb bobs that were filled with mercury, but those are actually pretty common. The mercury supposedly helped it stay still. I have never seen one of these sets, and it is in amazing condition. I would clean the box, but nothing else.

The box has some cracks as well that will get some surgically placed wood glue and pulled together, but yes, a gentle cleaning will otherwise be the extent of how much I touch this box.


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[Outlawmws]

Outlaw, Lugz, I picked up this hobby from my dad, who went to the swap every weekend when I was a kid (the same swap that CatfishDan goes to) and while he had different tool choices than me, he always said "If you don't look, you don't find." We just keep our eyes open and stay in the hunt.

I have to blame my dad also.

He once told me I could try to build my sting ray bike into a motor bike, ONLY if I didn't spend any money on it. (he didn't think it could be done (probably by me), Didn't want me to have any part of a motorcycle, (called them Murder cycles..), and was always looking for better deal (but didn't start doing yard sales until his later years and only then casually - not Like I do), usually through ads for used things.

I DID get the bike motorized and he was supersized and I think proud that I not only got it to go, but that I kept modifying it in different ways. (Just getting it running, then making it a dirt bike, then a cafe racer, then a chopper...)

Begged borrowed, modified and yes, later after it was operational, spent some $$ on it to do things not possible to do for free...

Later I started going to a large Flea market fairly regularly (Most Sundays), that cruising for yard sales and now planing via CL so I minimize the gas and time waste.

Ultimately it's about the hunt. Finding cool useful things is a definite benefit and the goal, but the fact is you can't really find most of what I get by going into a brick and mortar store. They aren't there any more. You have to hunt...

 

[Catfishdan]

I got out of the flea market today for 23 bucks. Including my churro.
- complete SK 1/4 drive set
- 1/2 & 3/8 Craftsman ratchets, pliers, and 9mm socket
- proto wrench and extension
- unmarked tommy bar
- plomb 1 3/16 socket



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[Private Lugnutz]

I skipped my flea markets again today and finished the restoration on that rusty Plomb 5400-AB set and box I picked up at my Thursday early bird. Link to finished product here, if you're interested in seeing what I did with it.

 

[freudianfloyd]

Only made it to a few yard sales the past couple weekends, but feel I did pretty good. I was on my way to my dad's to weld the exhaust on his '55 Belair, and stopped at one that had tools and hunting equipment. My favorite two things.

First found a Lyman Spartan reloading press for $5. Its older, but as far as I know can use standard dies. And as I was leaving I saw a 4 wheeler sitting there. I asked if he was interested in selling it and he said sure but hadn't planned on it. It's a 2000 Kawasaki Bayou 300 4x4. He said it had a new battery, coil, and cdi but it wouldn't start. He said he would take $500, which was probably a good deal, but I talked him down to $325. He had $300 in it, so I let him make a profit.

Took it home, cleaned the carb, and had it running, but not great. Took it off again, replaced a bad pilot jet O-ring, and it still wasn't running right. Checked the spark and it was barely there. Long story short, I replaced the coil, cdi, and battery, (the three new parts) adjusted the carb, and it runs great. All in I would say I have about $450.
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Also had the straighten the handlebars.

 

[Matt XYZ]

I think I make a small blunder at the weekly fleamarket/flohmarkt. One of the tool regulars had about 6-7 SK wrenches that I thought were some imported fakes. I've never seen raised panel SK wrenches and although they felt very solid and had good heft, the chrome over the rough finish looked to me like Chinese or Indian junk wrenches. They reminded me of some very poor quality obstruction wrenches I ordered from JC Whitney as a kid.
I picked up the 1/2 for 1 Euro just to research when I got home. It turns out they are in fact real SK. Hopefully he still has the rest of the wrenches next week.

Besides the SK RP wrench, I got two Knipex pliers and side cutters with no brand markings, and Gedore, Heyco and FACOM sockets for 8 Euros. I didn't have a 4 and 4.5 mm socket so now I do in case I ever come across one.

 

[Davefr]

Leather hide for $10. Tools were $1/ea. Action Tools??? Must be rebranded Thorsen.

 

[Capt. Spaulding]

Hit the flea market today and it was Snap-On madness! Sad part is I only had $30 with me.... Snap-On sockets of all sizes, shallow or deep, $2 each but I got them for about $1.50 each. Most everything was vintage. I grabbed what I could afford. Pics will come soon.

 

[Outlawmws]

Dave the leather looks like a chamios

 

[LesserSon]

After moving the last of the bulky stuff into my daughter’s new digs, nipped off to the Roosevelt Mall flea market. Not a big showing today, about half what I recall seeing there last time I was there. Mostly cosmetics, jewelry, shoes, etc. But a few piles of tools here and there. I spent a whopping $3 on a Utica “pat’d” pliers and two Proto Los Angeles wrenches.

 

[Outlawmws]

LS those are Uticas? They look like Channelock Nut busters?

 

[Davefr]

Dave the leather looks like a chamios

It measures about 6' X 3'. If it's a chamios, It would be quite the task to ring it out. Maybe you'd only have to do it once per car wash session

 

[Bill Ramsey]

Recent ES finds:
Pic 1
Workmate 79-016 holdfasts
Heller 6 oz. BP hammer
Stanley 69-117 4" awl
Wards Master 84-4761-I 1/4" 6" flex handle
Proto 9604 4"x1/4" screwdriver
Blackhawk PT-1029 7.5" slip joint pliers with side cutters
Channellock 420 10" pliers

Pic 2
Crescent S412 12" straight snips
SK 42470 1/2" dr. ratchet
Proto 226 6.5" needle nose pliers
Proto 5420-H 5/8" 6pt socket
Proto 280 10" slip joint pliers
Plomb 1218 9/16" pebble combo wrench
Three USA HS twist drills: 5/8" 3/4" 7/8"
Craftsman 9-25069 crown top 3-pc router template guide bushing set
Stanley 9 1/2 block plane, missing mouth adjusting lever which can be fabricated

Pic 3
Bonney E30 7/16"x1/2" ignition wrench D.T
Bonney E1820 9/16"x5/8" DOE "streamline" wrench J.N
Bonney 1167 7/8" Bonaloy combo wrench L.X
Bonney 1170 1" Bonaloy combo wrench A.X







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[Capt. Spaulding]

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[Outlawmws]

It measures about 6' X 3'. If it's a chamios, It would be quite the task to ring it out. Maybe you'd only have to do it once per car wash session

OK, that dog is a lot bigger that it looks in the pic!

 

[fowldarr]

I was asked for some more pics of the Starrett ratchet I picked up. I did a quick clean on it and here it is.

I think it was Lugz that said to watch for Mossberg socket and indeed there was one, the rest were Starrett


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[Private Lugnutz]

I think it was Lugz that said to watch for Mossberg socket and indeed there was one, the rest were Starrett

I actually said the opposite, and I'm surprised you found one. Is it the same size as the Starrett sockets? Pressed steel sockets have hollow male drive tangs. Mossberg sockets are 11/16-inch drive on the outside of the tang (the female drive opening in the ratchet is 11/16") and 1/2-inch drive on the inside of the tang (the male drive stud on one end of the extension-adaptor is 1/2" and on the other end it's 11/16"; the universal joint is 1/2-inch inside drive). I have read that Starrett used a 5/8-inch drive system. The outer diameter of the drive tangs were 5/8" and the female ratchet was 5/8". Is that true? And does the Mossberg socket fit inside the Starrett ratchet?

 

[fowldarr]

I’ll let you know! Frying up some small mouth bass from the fishing trip yesterday so it might be a bit


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[Private Lugnutz]

I’ll let you know! Frying up some small mouth bass from the fishing trip yesterday so it might be a bit

Haha. No problem. Priorities! (I just had a couple of crab patty sandwiches from a mess of blue crabs I caught a few hours ago on the incoming tide!)

 

[JMLangford]

today's outing....



Long shaft Vaco magnetic screwdriver (came with only 2 USA 8-10 straight bits)
1/4" x 3/8" USA KaStar DBE wrench
8" Craftsman adjustable wrench (needs plenty of TLC)
Short section of Made in Taiwan (that's a small town just outside of Atlanta ) 1/4" socket holders

Cleaned the DBE and starting on the 8" adjustable....


All shiney....



Dat's all folks......


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[txlonghorn1989]

Haha. No problem. Priorities! (I just had a couple of crab patty sandwiches from a mess of blue crabs I caught a few hours ago on the incoming tide!)

Lugz, that sounds so dang tasty!

 

[fowldarr]

Crab patties. That is something I need to learn to make


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[Private Lugnutz]

It's sweet meat! Blue claws are small and not so fun to clean. But they shed on the full moon (in 5 days here!). Shedders (of soft shells) you only need to rip out the eyestalks and gills and plop the whole crab right into the pan!

EDIT: fowldarr - As with everything, everyone has their recipe. I like them loose and chunky. I don't use baking powder or mayo. Just crabmeat, crushed corn flakes, egg, scallions, and Old Bay for a little kick. The sugar in the cornflakes carmelizes in the pan and helps keep them together.

 

[BlueBomber]

Those Millers Falls bevels are considered one of the rarest of the Buck Rogers line of tools. I sold the only one I ever found in the wild for $20, only to later see it at an antique tool dealer's store for $45.

This is one of the things I love about this site and this thread in particular: I never heard of the "Buck Rogers" line of Millers Falls tools before now. And seeing as how I live in the home state of the ol' Millers Falls company, I'll be on the look out for more of them.

Thanks, pfaustus!

EDIT:

Here's a link for more Buck Rogers tools to keep an eye open for:

http://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2015/04/buck-rogers-tools.html

 

[dkroth]

1/4" x 3/8" USA KaStar DBE wrench

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I guess that makes Kastar the OEM for Matco brake bleeder wrenches.

Very nice.






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[JMLangford]

Those Millers Falls bevels are considered one of the rarest of the Buck Rogers line of tools. I sold the only one I ever found in the wild for $20, only to later see it at an antique tool dealer's store for $45.

This is one of the things I love about this site and this thread in particular: I never heard of the "Buck Rogers" line of Millers Falls tools before now. And seeing as how I live in te home state of the ol' Millers Falls company, I'll be on the look out for more of them.

Thanks, pfaustus!

EDIT:

Here's a link for more Buck Rogers tools to keep an eye open for:

http://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2015/04/buck-rogers-tools.html

Dayuum.....I passed up a bevel just like that today I could have got it for $2......





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[RagTopTA]

Weekend off! Hit the little flea market Sat and Sun. SAt morning bright and early... ready to find some deals..... pull up to 2 vendors with clothes and knick knacks... Hardly anyone there. WTF? The heat is keeping people away is the rumor. Its been 110-114 every day lately. !00 by 10 or so. Whiners. Decide to go hit the three Estate sales that are actually open for the day and found some decent stuff. Also, Racoon number 2 was released at the river beside the flea Sat morning also... strange... anyways.. At one Estate sale, I found something pretty neat. I'll make a post with it in a few. Onward with Saturday's haul.


Wrenches:
Mac DOE x 2
Proto 15 mm
Power Craft DSE

Speedsters:
Craftsman 1/2 Circle U
Thorsen 1/4

Driver:
Proto flat blade

Pliers:
Battery pliers channel Lock

Adjustable Wrenches:
P&C 6"
Diamond 10"

Hammer:
Small Stanely soft face missing one face

Extensions:
SnapOn 12" 3/8 drv

Tool Box:
Bonney Ratchet set box looks like sticker intact

Drill:
Proto 370 adjustable Hand drill


Sockets:
Herbrand plug socket
SnapOn
Stanley
Apex slot 3/8 drv x 5

Belts:
Craftsman 1"x42" sanding belts for one of my belt grinders

Drill bits:
Black& Decker 10 piece set unopened

Blades:
BD jig saw blades unopened

Bender:
Gould Tubing Bender in box with inst.

Oil:
2 cans of household oil full.

Wood thing:
Hinged wood thing with many holes.. Game score ? Game ?

Atomic Rock!! Next post!

 

[RagTopTA]

Ok so, about this Atomic Rock! I was at an Estate sale Saturday and rummaging around in the garage on the workbench. I see piles of random things. Looking under stuff and found this rounded piece of tile with writing on it. Says it was found at the explosion center in Hiroshima. I guess this person sent it to this man at some point. the date written on it is June 5, 1951. I felt like it was a pretty neat piece. got it for a $1. wish I knew more of the story about this.