Tools of Japan

[Reed Prince]

Among other things, ordered these SK11 SST-220AD scissors from Amazon Japan today. Only $12.25.

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[cleeny]

Amazon.co.jp is just amazong.
The prices for tools may sometimes be cheaper elsewhere, but the shipping cost to America is just absurd, in the positive sense—it's like shipping from NY to NJ or something.

 

[tanukiboy]

Amazon.co.jp is just amazong.
The prices for tools may sometimes be cheaper elsewhere, but the shipping cost to America is just absurd, in the positive sense—it's like shipping from NY to NJ or something.

It works the other way around too. When I order tools from Amazon US, 3-day expedited global shipping to Japan usually costs $15-$25, which is often much less than the difference between the US price and the Japan price for the same tools (if they are even available here). And if you're willing to wait a couple of weeks, regular shipping is about 1/3 the cost.

 

[dede2897234]

I bought the cable tie cutters for me, they have small rubber “wings” that hold the cut section and prevent it flying off.
Same company, Tsunoda, but are made in Thailand.
They seem to work well.

gbh,

Would you mind taking a close up picture of the Tsunoda cable tie cutters?

I can't see the small rubber "wings" in your current picture.


Thanks,

Dave

 

[tanukiboy]

gbh,

Would you mind taking a close up picture of the Tsunoda cable tie cutters?

I can't see the small rubber "wings" in your current picture.


Thanks,

Dave

Not gbh, but I was curious too. Here's a picture from Amazon Japan.

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[dede2897234]

Tanukiboy,

Very nice picture of the cutting head. I now understand how they work.


Thanks,

Dave

 

[66HertzClone]

Bought these Tsunoda chain link pliers (King TTC)for a friend who works on bikes a lot, good for up to 530 chain, made in Japan.
I bought the cable tie cutters for me, they have small rubber “wings” that hold the cut section and prevent it flying off.
Same company, Tsunoda, but are made in Thailand.
They seem to work well.

Could you provide a link to your source for those cable tie cutters, I've got to get one of those?

 

[dede2897234]

66HertzClone,

Here is a Amazon.co.jp link to the Tsunoda cable tie cutters: LINK.


Dave

 

[tanukiboy]

66HertzClone,

Here is a Amazon.co.jp link to the Tsunoda cable tie cutters: LINK.


Dave

For some reason, your link takes me to the standard nippers (without the plastic wings). How about this link?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B073V2X71S/

 

[gbh]

For some reason, your link takes me to the standard nippers (without the plastic wings). How about this link?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B073V2X71S/

Thanks for posting that Tanukiboy.
I should add that the pliers packet states the pliers are for cutting cable ties up to 2 mm thick and for that they work well, however I wouldn't expect them to last or work well with wide, thick cable ties in a proper workshop for long as they are a delicate item.

 

[superautobacs]

A recent Factory Gear video featured a Deen quick twist ratchet. Are ratchets like this a worthy toolbox addition, or more of a gimmick?

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Quite handy. I've been using mine more frequently this past couple weeks due to a certain task at work.

The SBD version (Stanley, Blackhawk, Facom) versions are different and I've always presumed is a different OEM from the Deen style.
I have both styles of mechanisms and I prefer the Deen style for the compact head dimensions.
The SBD versions have a really bulky head, especially in 1/4 drive.

A couple key differences:
-In my experience, the Deen style has a mechanism which works more smooth, with less resistance....which equates to less hand fatigue in use.
-Unlike the Deen style, the SBD version has a directional switch.

Beyond that, the Deen branded version has some unique additional features:
-square drive on the handle end
-female drive accepts any standard 1/4" bit
-it's a 3/8 drive in a 1/4 drive style body
-appears to have improved durability?

The Deen style pictured is a 1/4 drive model and about 11" long. The SBD
style is a 3/8 drive (it's sitting next to a 3/8 drive round head ratchet
which I consider to have a bulky head. So that shows just how bulky the
SBD styles are, even in 1/4 drive)

Eight years ago, inspired by the Proxxon version which had a 3/8 square on the handle end, I customized my own to mimic it.
It worked ok, until one day I decided to use a 18v drill driver (non-impact) and sheared some gear tooth.

In my experience, durability wise, these need to be handled with care.
With the Deen style mechanism, I find that if you twist hard enough, I can
feel the gears wanting to clash. I think through use, the play between the internal mechanism has increased, causing an increase in gear lash under
high loads. Because of this, I've been weary of exerting to much force
when twisting the handle. Only time will tell if it gets worse.


Some in-use videos:

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[superautobacs]

I got these Fujiya "Catch Nippers" a few years ago and use them quick regularly at work for cutting zip-ties, wiring, heat shrink, tape and they work as advertised.

They are forged and assembled in Thailand, then the final filing of the cutting edges are performed in Japan.

Pictures are from when they were new:

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You can see from this photo that a skilled craftsman took their file to tune the cutting face/edge. Once that was done, I assume the leaf springs/wings were installed.


The leaf springs/wings have not had any issues and I haven't had any need to adjust them even though I've cut insulated copper wiring many times.



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Comparing with a standard pair of diagonal cutters:

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[Reed Prince]

Quite handy. I've been using mine more frequently this past couple weeks due to a certain task at work.

The SBD version (Stanley, Blackhawk, Facom) versions are different and I've always presumed is a different OEM from the Deen style.
I have both styles of mechanisms and I prefer the Deen style for the compact head dimensions.

The Deen looks like the one I would prefer to purchase. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like their site is set up to accommodate overseas sales, and the only other option I see is to buy through Yahoo Japan, which would involve additional third party service fees.

 

[Qualitytools]

I have the Facom and the Stanley 3/8 version and I use them a lot I will admit that the head is a bit large compared to the Deen. Thanks for sharing, too bad it sounds like they are not very durable.

 

[tanukiboy]

Thanks for posting that Tanukiboy.
I should add that the pliers packet states the pliers are for cutting cable ties up to 2 mm thick and for that they work well, however I wouldn't expect them to last or work well with wide, thick cable ties in a proper workshop for long as they are a delicate item.

Hi gbh.

Thanks for posting about these handy little cable tie nippers earlier. I ordered a pair from Amazon Japan and they are now happily sitting in my toolbox. Fittingly, their first job was to cut the cable tie I use to hold their handles closed for storage.

As for the limited capacity, it seems that Tsunoda also makes a beefier model which (if I'm reading their spec sheet right) handles cable ties up to 4mm x 9mm.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07D8GHLSJ/

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[gbh]

They're handy aren't they Tanukiboy. Thanks for posting the link to larger ones, I'd have bought them for sure if the store had them.
I really wanted some like Superautobacs posted, the Fujiya nippers with steel wings. i saw some in a shop ages ago, didn't buy them and couldn't find them again.
Now I'm on the hunt online for some 150mm nippers with steel wings as I think they's be perfect.

 

[tanukiboy]

They're handy aren't they Tanukiboy. Thanks for posting the link to larger ones, I'd have bought them for sure if the store had them.
I really wanted some like Superautobacs posted, the Fujiya nippers with steel wings. i saw some in a shop ages ago, didn't buy them and couldn't find them again.
Now I'm on the hunt online for some 150mm nippers with steel wings as I think they's be perfect.

Amazon Japan sells the Fujiya steel wing nippers like the ones Superautobacs has for around ¥2000. The size is only 125mm though. Rated for up to 2mm cable ties, the same as the smaller Tsunoda nippers. I couldn't find 150mm. The model number is 90CS125. Here's a link.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00DMZW1RK/

 

[Qualitytools]

I have a set of those wrench adapters, mine are Toptul.

Do you recall if they are sold individually or as a set and how much please? Thanks

 

[Qualitytools]

Mine, one set was a toptul...

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I will ask 48548 the same question about the Toptul, do you recall if the adapters were sold as a set or individually, and if so how much? Thanks

 

[BigBoreFan]

Do you recall if they are sold individually or as a set and how much please? Thanks

I got them from Dennis on here. But Dennis closed up shop.

 

[Qualitytools]

I got them from Dennis on here. But Dennis closed up shop.

Oh yes, that's right thanks. I will try to find out from Mike Wren about them

 

[tanukiboy]

Do you recall if they are sold individually or as a set and how much please? Thanks

If you have trouble finding the Toptul ones, these are the SK-11 versions. They are sold individually at Amazon Japan. The small one is around $4, the big one around $7, and the medium one somewhere in between.

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[Qualitytools]

Thanks Tanukiboy, they appear to be the same. I tried a search on Amazon Japan without luck, do you happen to have a link? Also I wonder if by the time you pay shipping the price may be the same as the Toptul ones are about $20 for the larger one so a big difference in price, I think we are talking close to $50 for the set and that's a bit pricey for such a small attachment. The price of the SK ones you posted is more like what I expected them to be

 

[tanukiboy]

Thanks Tanukiboy, they appear to be the same. I tried a search on Amazon Japan without luck, do you happen to have a link? Also I wonder if by the time you pay shipping the price may be the same as the Toptul ones are about $20 for the larger one so a big difference in price, I think we are talking close to $50 for the set and that's a bit pricey for such a small attachment. The price of the SK ones you posted is more like what I expected them to be

Here's a link to the big one at Amazon Japan (price about $7).

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0026FBGBE/

I checked the cost of 3-6 day global priority shipping to the US, and it was $6 or so. If you ordered all three sizes at once, the per unit shipping price should be even more reasonable. Good luck!

 

[Qualitytools]

^ Thanks for the link. I sent you a PM

 

[BigBoreFan]

@qualitytools. I'd avoid AMAZON Japan, that place will break you. But it's so much fun. Must be what normal people experience in Vegas.

I started buying tools last fall. Long winter and I ran across German Tool Reviews on YouTube. I spent a few dollars at KC Tools and at Amazon Germany. Then I discovered ChrisCas's channel, and the Japanese tools.

I'm definitely in the tool collector/polisher camp, and I have no shame about it. The Japanese make some beautiful tools.

 

[Qualitytools]

@qualitytools. I'd avoid AMAZON Japan, that place will break you. But it's so much fun. Must be what normal people experience in Vegas.

I started buying tools last fall. Long winter and I ran across German Tool Reviews on YouTube. I spent a few dollars at KC Tools and at Amazon Germany. Then I discovered ChrisCas's channel, and the Japanese tools.

I'm definitely in the tool collector/polisher camp, and I have no shame about it. The Japanese make some beautiful tools.

Indeed they do! My first experience was with the Koken Zeal 3/8 set, and I Love it. I am however, having some trouble with placing an order but I think it's because one of the items I need is from a seller that does not ship overseas, at least that's what I think!

Moreover, I have ordered tools from Amazon.de and I was able to save some $ on some items when I shopped around, other wise KC Tools is awesome.

I have always Loved cars and I have several. Mainly BMWs that I do almost all the maintenance on them myself so I do appreciate a good well made "quality" Tool (pun intended)
Thanks for the warning

 

[wkndwarrior29]

You can set a filter for ships internationally to make shopping easier while on Amazon.

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[Qualitytools]

So I went back to Amazon.JP and made sure that all my items are sold and shipped from Amazon Japan. However, when I am filling out the address for shipping and billing it wants a prefecture and it will not allow me to proceed with placing the order unless that field is filled out. Any tips??

Update: I figured it out, I discovered a button that says "click here for address outside Japan" This allowed me to complete my order.

Thanks again to tanukiboy, BigBoreFan, and 48548

 

[outdated]

I am in the process of my first purchase via a buying agency (or whatever they are called) in order to get around the geoblocks put in place when AU brought in some new tax law last month. Both Amazon.jp and Rakuten Global stopped shipping to AU, so I thought I would try this other option, I am trying DEJAPAN.

It has all gone fine so far, but is a bit more complicated. On the upside, the domestic shipping was free, so I'm only up for the EMS charge and a small bit on top as far as I can see. It looks like it might end up cost competitive with buying direct from Amazon (which was a bit pricier than Rakuten but had cheaper shipping and overall easier to use website).

Meanwhile I think Rakuten Global is getting up to speed with the new AU laws and will collect the tax on the shop's behalf and so hopefully options like I-Tools will open up again without the need for a service like DEJAPAN.

I'll update when the goods arrive.

 

[tanukiboy]

Update: I figured it out, I discovered a button that says "click here for address outside Japan" This allowed me to complete my order.

Thanks again to tanukiboy, BigBoreFan, and 48548

Glad to hear that you figured it out. Good luck with your order -- and your new addiction?

 

[Qualitytools]

Glad to hear that you figured it out. Good luck with your order -- and your new addiction?

Thank you! I have been addicted to tools for a long time but since I joined GJ I Learned about tool brands and tools that I was not aware of so there goes my wallet. But I like having the right tool for the job as it makes things go so much easier and with less frustration.

Now that also means that I will still rent a tool for free (from my local parts store) whenever I need to work on a specific job where I feel that purchasing the tool is not a wise decision based on the frequency of the repair/job

Thanks for the help everyone and I will share some photos when I receive my new tools

 

[tanukiboy]

Here's a handy little tool from Straight.

It's a compact roto head ratchet that has a neat trick. The driver-style handle is hinged in the middle and can be swiveled to make a T-handle for applying more torque.

Overall length is 4.5", so it's about the size of a corkscrew. It has a 72 tooth ratchet. No COO indicated on the tool or packaging, so you can guess where it's made.

The green one is 3/8" drive.

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[CR888]

^^^That's really cool! I've seen something similar before but they look sweet, everyone could use 1 or 2 of those roto T's.

 

[mercucho]

Ko-ken ratchet 3774NB and spin type Handle 2759F















Spin Handle in combination with ratchet:









It is a very practical system: you loosen it with the ratchet and then you just unscrewed it like a screwdriver.

 

[mercucho]

Here's a handy little tool from Straight.

It's a compact roto head ratchet that has a neat trick. The driver-style handle is hinged in the middle and can be swiveled to make a T-handle for applying more torque.

Overall length is 4.5", so it's about the size of a corkscrew. It has a 72 tooth ratchet. No COO indicated on the tool or packaging, so you can guess where it's made.

tanukiboy, very nice ratchets.

 

[BigBoreFan]

@mercucho

I have that same Ko-Ken 1/4 spinner handle. It's nice but it has a very small handle, and my hands are not large by any means. I have yet to try a Ko-Ken ratchet.

 

[M6erfan]

Ko-ken ratchet 3774NB and spin type Handle 2759F

Nice stuff! I have both of those also. I too find the spinner handle pretty small. The ratchet I love and is my go-to in 3/8" drive.

 

[mercucho]

@mercucho

I have that same Ko-Ken 1/4 spinner handle. It's nice but it has a very small handle, and my hands are not large by any means. I have yet to try a Ko-Ken ratchet.

Yes, it really is quite small but I have small hands and, anyway, it has a good grip with the stretch marks.

The 3774NB ratchet is, like all Ko-ken, high quality.

 

[mercucho]

Nice stuff! I have both of those also. I too find the spinner handle pretty small. The ratchet I love and is my go-to in 3/8" drive.

For larger hands maybe this Tone is more suitable. The handle is 22 mm longer than that of ko-ken.