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Flail

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I have quite a few schlage keyless door locks bought from HD at home. I love the convenience but the durability *****. One keypad has rotted in the sun and a couple of strikes have broken.

Like these models;

https://www.homedepot.com/s/schlage%20plymouth%20keypad%20entry?NCNI-5.

The schlage website ***** and can’t find replacement parts.

Can anyone recommend a similar product that is more durable and has better support?
 
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Bobhdus

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No residential keyless electronic Lock is gonna hold up that well. If you have a storm door it will help protect it but even at 40 degree and below temps they’re gonna have issues. Power bolt styles are the biggest ones that have issues but it’s usually because door alignment can change depending on humidity and house settling. I’ve always supplied Masters Electronic Deadbolts because I can offer them in any keyway. Meaning they can be rekeyed to match Kwikset, Schlage, Arrow, Weiser etc... Plus they had all the standard finishes, and offered the Nightwatch feature. Any issues with needing parts and a local lock Supply house could get the replacement components. When the batteries go dead, it gets stuck in the unlock position so you won’t get locked out. But, I think they’re discontinuing this product.

Honestly, if you don’t mind using your phone as your key and if you have a decent deadbolt, get one of the August keyless entry systems. They fit right over the inside thumb turn portion of your deadbolt. You can even add a button pad to be used instead of the phone app. I’ve installed a few of these. They’re usually at Best Buy and most other Suppy houses... If you want high quality and durability, then get an Industrial push button knob. But they’re really expensive and not that decorative.


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Alright I know maybe hijacking BUT...why not use a door release mechanism? You know a "buzzer" like on apartment buildings? Yeah, yeah, yeah,,,a dead bolt is great, but lets face it you got windows don't you?

Door release mechanisms have been around a long time are very secure, some used in prisons.

Keypads? there are a couple brands out there SEI & Viking come to mind.
 

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My Schlage electronic locks have worked out very well. 5 years in our sun (NM) haven’t bothered them. And at my cabin in the mountains, they’ve worked at -20. I bought from a real locksmith so not sure if they have different grades for pros vs big box.
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I have quite a few schlage keyless door locks bought from HD at home. I love the convenience but the durability *****. One keypad has rotted in the sun and a couple of strikes have broken.

Like these models;

https://www.homedepot.com/s/schlage%20plymouth%20keypad%20entry?NCNI-5.

The schlage website ***** and can’t find replacement parts.

Can anyone recommend a similar product that is more durable and has better support?

Not quite what you are looking for, but most Schlage products have a lifetime warranty. If you call them they will usually ship out a new lock no charge. If you know the key number, they will even key to your spec's, but it does slow down delivery.

Just checked, and I see they only warranty the electronics for 3yrs, however I would still call them and see if they would replace the locks as the buttons should fall under the finish warranty.
 
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I have five Schlage units for five years..........so far all have good. Only batteries so far.
If the electronics **** I would not expect parts availability and would replace the unit. If the mechanism has issues the warranty should cover it.

I really like them on the shop...........there is no chance the door is not locked.

The warranty:
Subject to the terms and conditions of this warranty, Schlage Lock Company, LLC (“Schlage”) extends a limited lifetime mechanical and finish warranty and a limited three-year electronics warranty to the original consumer user (“Original User”) of our Schlage brand product (“Products”) against defects in material and workmanship as long as the Original User occupies the residential premises upon which the Product was originally installed.
 

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Ditto on the Schlage. I have one in the style the op linked and it's been great, protected by a storm door though from the elements. Must be at least 5+ years now.

Also have a schlage electronic deadbolt with the manual mechanism (like you have to turn to lock/unlock after entering the code). That one has been exposed to rain, snow, sun for years. No problems so far. I like it better than the Kwikset one I had, which had a motor to lock the door, but you have to have the bolt line up perfectly. But on my door I sometimes had to pull it in to get the weather seal to compress a little. If it was off, it'd make terrible noises.
 
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Alright I know maybe hijacking BUT...why not use a door release mechanism? You know a "buzzer" like on apartment buildings? Yeah, yeah, yeah,,,a dead bolt is great, but lets face it you got windows don't you?

Door release mechanisms have been around a long time are very secure, some used in prisons.

Keypads? there are a couple brands out there SEI & Viking come to mind.

I did a little bit of research on this idea this spring. At work we install access control. The last system I did only had 2 doors and 2 readers. One door also had a keypad.

Installing an access system like this is troublesome in a residential setting. Understand in a commercial setting there's always a closer closing and holding the door closed. At home we don't have closers on our front doors. So you end up having a door that's always locked. For me I knew that wasn't going to work. There are ways around.this but again, it wasn't going to work at home.

If I had a commercial space with employes and what not. I would have card and code access no doubt.
 

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But, and I'm not trying to be argumentative here, you close your door when you walk in don't you? A door release mechanism does not need a door closer. It's a nice feature, but not needed.
 

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At work we had those Kaba Simplex style mechanical pushbutton locks. I bet they saw hundreds of operations a week, thousands a year and they just kept ticking like a Timex watch.

Home I have a couple Schlage locks like the OP and never a problem other than batteries. Keypads still work fine.
 

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I have 4 of the Schlage electronic deadbolts (Schlage BE365VCAM619 Keypad Deadbolt) with the mechanical movement. My first one has been exposed to the sun and elements for over six years now. I just replaced the battery for the first time a couple weeks ago. There is a bit of weathering on the nickel finish but the keypad still looks new. I'd call their customer service and have them look for the part.
 

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Do a search for Emtek,they have some nice electronic locksets.You will probably have to buy from a real lock & supply house or a real hardware store that sells Emtek.
 

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I run 5 of the Schlage Sense units at one property, as well as KwikSets at another 2 properties. The Schlage are tied into Bluetooth which then reports to my phone. The KwikSets use Zwave.

The Schlage units are far better than the KwikSets in my opinion. I'm surprised you're having issues with them. They don't use batteries the way the KwikSets do, but they are harder to re-key. The KwikSets have a tool based re-key, and probably are a bit less of a strong lock because of it. I've also used some industrial access controls as well, and well they are certainly far more expensive, the interface, feel, and action aren't any better. Lock mechs may be better though.
 

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Emtek, best on the market IMO. I don't have experience with their electronic locks, but I do have an Emtek lockset, and know others who also have them. Very high quality, but also very expensive. FWIW, my front door set (operator and dummy) was $600. Second, I would look at Baldwin. Schlage is a good cheaper alternative. All the interior locks in my home are Schlage, including the electronic deadbolt lock on the garage-entry door.

https://emtek.com/electronic-locks

https://www.baldwinhardware.com/products/category/door-hardware/estate/keypad-entry
 
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I have put Schlage keypad handle locks and deadbolts on at least 20 properties for my son and me. I go around and change the batteries once per year and never have an issue with any of them. My father worked at the state prison, and they used Schlage locks. Good enough for me.
 
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