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ANCHOR BOLTS
This lift has been in the design and testing phase for over two years now. The prototype units have never been bolted down, even during testing with loads exceeding max capacity. We would however suggest installing a few anchors though (just as many do on their four post lifts) just to keep the lift in place during entry/exit and to keep components squared up.

THE MARKET
If you have a pole barn, you likely don't fit the Autostacker demographic. If you still do your own oil changes, swap over your seasonal tires, or occasionally change your blinker fluid, you are probably not an Autostacker buyer. If you need side access to get underneath your car, nope, stick with a BendPak four post lift. Key buyers will be urbanites who live in crammed cities, in cramped houses, who use their garage space for parking and storing cars - in cities with exorbitant parking-storage fees. Houses are shrinking and so are garages, so space saving design will play an important role.

A BendPak customer a few years back was Bryan Cranston, aka Walter White. Full story about his amazing eco house here. ..https://www.dwell.com/article/actor-bryan-cranstons-green-beach-house-renovation-8fd90ad9. Not sure a four-post muffler rack would have fit the design elements, especially for the diminutive space which is all too common in constrained beachfront properties nowadays. Also, not quite contemporary enough for his repurposed Love Shack. Had he known about this new model at the time, it would have been the one he chose instead of our PL-7000XR.

A modest 1/1000 of this market could be in play https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-households-in-the-us/ plus the many commercial prospects. And that’s just in the USA.

HIDDEN BENEFIT
I am one who enjoys nice things, especially cars. Unfortunately my car lair is shared with bicycles, scooters, and trash cans navigated by teens, grandkids and other non-car-worshipper heathens. A single scratch or ding can cost hundreds to correct if paint work is involved. One of my early houses featured a three car garage – a double wide bay and a single wide. Know what I did with the single bay? I chain-linked the whole damn area up (along with a full-height gate that lined up perfectly with my car door) to keep riffraff away from my #$@&%*! car. It worked like a dream. The Autostacker shrouds your car from bicycle bars and Hello Kitty guitars.
 
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It's comical that they guy with a giant bar in his profile pic and lives in the wide open spaces of Colorado, has a bay with maybe 16' ceiling heights is the one who is arguing with you. This day and age, no one wants to listen to or concede the other's point of view.

Seems like bendpack had something similar already?
 
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It's comical that they guy with a giant bar in his profile pic and lives in the wide open spaces of Colorado, has a bay with maybe 16' ceiling heights is the one who is arguing with you. This day and age, no one wants to listen to or concede the other's point of view.

Seems like bendpack had something similar already?

Our lineup consisted primarily of column type parking lifts. Nothing in this category.
 
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An install recently completed in Dana Point, CA.

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It's comical that they guy with a giant bar in his profile pic and lives in the wide open spaces of Colorado, has a bay with maybe 16' ceiling heights is the one who is arguing with you. This day and age, no one wants to listen to or concede the other's point of view....

Why is it comical? :headscrat

What you call an argument most folks call a discussion.

Point out some specifics, or just carry on and throw little bombs.
 

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My 3 car already has a mid-rise and a 4 post. I'd consider a double stack for the final bay if I could fit one of the Vipers on it. It looks like they'd never fit on the lift as they are so low to the ground
 

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My 3 car already has a mid-rise and a 4 post. I'd consider a double stack for the final bay if I could fit one of the Vipers on it. It looks like they'd never fit on the lift as they are so low to the ground

I'd like to see the ramp in person. Clever way to keep it compact by inclining the platform all the way back. If that works like should a dropped car should be able to load carefully.
 

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This all seems too spammy, now. Rather than SEO us to death, pony up and be a sponsor.
 

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It's not about needs, it's about false statements.

Pictures make it real.... let's see your 4 post K13.

Here's the one I had at my last shop:


For me that is still a monstrosity when I needed to get long things from the front to the back of my garage. It was a massive pain it the *** having to lift everything up and over the lift so no matter how dainty it was it was a fact that it was a monstrosity for my needs. Because your needs differ from mine does not make it any less so.
 
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This all seems too spammy, now. Rather than SEO us to death, pony up and be a sponsor.

Apologize for the impression of spammy. I really try not to be that guy. Only sharing what I think would interest GJ readers. I've been a contributor for many years and always have worn a GJ hat before BP. But your point is well taken. Since this product will not be sold under the BP line of products, but rather as a separate factory-only offering, we are no longer tied to pricing constraints so ponying up is not a problem. Consider it done. Will reach out to Ryan today.
 
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My 3 car already has a mid-rise and a 4 post. I'd consider a double stack for the final bay if I could fit one of the Vipers on it. It looks like they'd never fit on the lift as they are so low to the ground

Gradually inclining the ramp was a key patent element and claim. I really don't think there would be any issue with low sports cars.

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Apologize for the impression of spammy. I really try not to be that guy. Only sharing what I think would interest GJ readers. I've been a contributor for many years and always have worn a GJ hat before BP. But your point is well taken. Since this product will not be sold under the BP line of products, but rather as a separate factory-only offering, we are no longer tied to pricing constraints so ponying up is not a problem. Consider it done. Will reach out to Ryan today.


Done. Waiting to hear back.
 
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My 3 car already has a mid-rise and a 4 post. I'd consider a double stack for the final bay if I could fit one of the Vipers on it. It looks like they'd never fit on the lift as they are so low to the ground

Gradually inclining the ramp was a key patent element and claim. I really don't think there would be any issue with low sports cars.

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See that's exactly what I hoped to see, Autostacker people specifically Jeff (guess he is in charge over there?) Even if it's a computer drawing it's probably accurate lol. Viper should fit I think. It looks like anything would iif carefully parked :bounce:
 

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The Viper's nose is the width of my hand off the ground. (Ya know, sideways like how you'd measure a horse) ....very hard to tell in the pics...

I should also add that the Viper's doors don't like to stay open when on an incline making it ever harder to get out of the car...
 
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Installed one at the house this week. Had to raise the garage door rails and install a LiftMaster 8500. I called Active Garage Door Services in SoCal and they showed up same day. Had the lift installers and garage door company working at the same time. Great when unplanned "plans" come together without a hitch. Plenty of head room and door-opening clearance.

My ceiling is 124"

As with any lift in a home garage, it sure turns a lot of heads. :thumbup:

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Good question. I'll take some measurements tonight and share.
 
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How deep is your garage where the lift is?

Took some measurements. From the inside face of the garage door to the front cabinets - exactly 20 feet.

The front edge of the Autostacker is positioned 32" away from the front cabinets.

With the car parked underneath, I have about 20" to spare both in the front (front bumper of lower car to the cabinets) and rear (rear bumper of lower car to the garage door).
 

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Looks really nice! Love the lines. One thing though... in looking at the picture... call me a stickler for detail...

IS THAT A HELLO KITTY FAN IN THE BACK LEFT SIDE OF THE PHOTO????
 
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Embarrassing.

Actually, it's a pretty sophisticated Hello-Kitty shop fan.

The surrounding air is cooled by inverse reactive current, most commonly used in unilateral phase detractors. A special ionizing feature automatically synchronizes cardinal grammeters.

Instead of cool air being generated by the relative motion of conductors, fluxes and rotating fans, it is produced by the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive diractance. The stand is made of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan.

Consisting simply of six hydrocoptic marzelvanes fitted to an ambifacient lunar waneshaft means sidefumbling is effectively prevented. The main winding is a normal lotus o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semiboloid slots of the stator, so that every seventh conductor is being connected by a non-reversible tremie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the ‘up’ end of the grammeters.

The Hello Kitty shop fan has been successfully used for operating nofer trunnions. In addition, whenever a barescent skor motion is required, it may be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration.
 

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Embarrassing.

Actually, it's a pretty sophisticated Hello-Kitty shop fan.

The surrounding air is cooled by inverse reactive current, most commonly used in unilateral phase detractors. A special ionizing feature automatically synchronizes cardinal grammeters.

Instead of cool air being generated by the relative motion of conductors, fluxes and rotating fans, it is produced by the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive diractance. The stand is made of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan.

Consisting simply of six hydrocoptic marzelvanes fitted to an ambifacient lunar waneshaft means sidefumbling is effectively prevented. The main winding is a normal lotus o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semiboloid slots of the stator, so that every seventh conductor is being connected by a non-reversible tremie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the ‘up’ end of the grammeters.

The Hello Kitty shop fan has been successfully used for operating nofer trunnions. In addition, whenever a barescent skor motion is required, it may be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration.

Although I'm not in the market for the Autostacker, I would almost think about it because of this post^^^
 

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JSK ... this looks like a potential solve for my new home that is under construction. I'm trying to jam a GLE350d (71" height, 5000lbs) and GLK250 (66" height, 4300lbs) in a one car garage with a ceiling height of 12.6" (see attached). Oddly I need the bigger GLE on top.

I was originally thinking the PL-7000XR would fit the bill. In your experience do you think this would be a better fit, or am I dreaming? It looks a bit tight - but by my calculations might work.

Definitely love the design and would work very well for my use case if the dimensions work.
 

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I'd like to understand the control unit. It looks like a standalone component but does it mount to the side of the lift and where can it be located (how far away)? It never shows up in the pictures.
 

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Embarrassing.

Actually, it's a pretty sophisticated Hello-Kitty shop fan.

The surrounding air is cooled by inverse reactive current, most commonly used in unilateral phase detractors. A special ionizing feature automatically synchronizes cardinal grammeters.

Instead of cool air being generated by the relative motion of conductors, fluxes and rotating fans, it is produced by the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive diractance. The stand is made of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan.

Consisting simply of six hydrocoptic marzelvanes fitted to an ambifacient lunar waneshaft means sidefumbling is effectively prevented. The main winding is a normal lotus o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semiboloid slots of the stator, so that every seventh conductor is being connected by a non-reversible tremie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the ‘up’ end of the grammeters.

The Hello Kitty shop fan has been successfully used for operating nofer trunnions. In addition, whenever a barescent skor motion is required, it may be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration.

Now that is how you spec out a fan. I'll take 2.
 

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i have been lurking here for a while and appreciate all of the great info. first post though.

i am highly considering this lift as i am needing a lift for storage more so than wrenching on cars. i live in an urban environment and have a separate slightly over sized detached garage that i keep 3 cars stored in parallel via entry through a 16' wide standard garage door (see attached pic). i definitely want to add a single lift (possibly two single lifts) in this garage to allow storage of an inbound car. however, with a traditional 4 post lift, it will be about impossible to cut the cars into the corners when backing through the garage door as the front posts would end up too close to the garage door.

i think this autostacker may allow me to get two separate lifts into the garage without having to worry about the posts nearest the garage door when backing the cars into the garage. my main reservations are obviously price and that this is a fairly new lift on the market, i can't seem to find any reviews on it currently. if anyone has any experience with it, i would appreciate hearing it. thanks!
 

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Good job pointing out the benefits of your product.

However, the notion of an HOA that would not allow me to own something (in this case, a 4-post lift) that is completely housed within my four walls and/or closed doors, based on appearance alone...that renders me speechless.

This is probably a discussion for another thread, and I'm sure I sound out of touch, but does such a restrictive HOA really exist? If so, where?

I've heard of HOA's like this in Kalifornia, such as Oakland, where some neighborhoods prohibit working on your car INSIDE YOUR CLOSED GARAGE!

This was brought to light a few years ago on pirate4x4 forums.
 

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I've heard of HOA's like this in Kalifornia, such as Oakland, where some neighborhoods prohibit working on your car INSIDE YOUR CLOSED GARAGE!

This was brought to light a few years ago on pirate4x4 forums.

Oakland.....pretty sure there isn't an HOA anywhere in Oakland.....but yes, this isn't a California thing...i've read about HOA's all over the country not allowing you to "work on cars in your garage"....same with not running a business out of your house.
 

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JSK, what's the width on the inside of the bottom?


I'm in a dilemna, i brought home another car and it's forcing me to keep my 996 turbo outside. I need a solution to stack.

2 cars:

'63 impala (on air, i think it's approx 51" tall)
'01 911 Turbo (lowered, so approx 50" tall)

Garage 110" tall, but it's not a solid top, so it's exposed beams and I may be able to squeeze inbetween the beam supports. Biggest concern is if I can open the doors to the impala on the bottom side.
 

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Also, if anyone in the bay area has one of these, can I come check it out? Would love to see if I can squeeze doors open and stuff the impala in.
 
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JSK, what's the width on the inside of the bottom?


I'm in a dilemna, i brought home another car and it's forcing me to keep my 996 turbo outside. I need a solution to stack.

2 cars:

'63 impala (on air, i think it's approx 51" tall)
'01 911 Turbo (lowered, so approx 50" tall)

Garage 110" tall, but it's not a solid top, so it's exposed beams and I may be able to squeeze inbetween the beam supports. Biggest concern is if I can open the doors to the impala on the bottom side.


85.5" is narrowest spacing inside lower.

There is a newer model that is 8" wider available end of year / PL-6SRX.
 

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I see now that there is an open center runway option available. That might make this more of a 4 post lift alternative. There is still the price premium associated with it
 
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