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I may have an opportunity to buy this compressor from my workplace. If not, it will get moved into storage and sit there forever....I know how this plays out. I know it's difficult to put a value on it without knowing condition, but I believe that it's functional. Doesn't look to be in bad condition at least just looking at it. What do you guys think?

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While I was walking around the building, I found another compressor that's just sitting around, too! A Binks compressor:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Shh9VLQzVUpiulj9YiFTX_Y7rWs34UJy/view?usp=sharing


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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HmWoyF0Jf0R98InzjBGC1wIifE4M77Lb/view?usp=sharing


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mas3nFOiMkUa6urxtdeFp-jCkDAnfoso/view?usp=sharing


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Can't tell from you pictures whether these are single or two stage. Binks has never made compressors but every one I have run across was very high quality rebranded. Kellogg is also a quality machine. I would want to see a photo from the end to determine stage and cooling before even thinking about a value.
 
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That Kellog is a sweet compressor. Find out the horsepower rating on the motor. If it's 7.5HP or less, you should be able to find a single-phase motor to put on it relatively easily.
 
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Somehow missed the pictures of the motor labels.

Anyways, the Binks compressor looks like it has a Quincy compressor pump on it - a solid unit for sure. They both appear to be two-stage pumps. The Kellog looks to be a physically larger pump with a larger pulley, so it will probably be quieter.

Being that each one is 5HP, it should be easy enough to find a replacement single phase motor. Both compressors are missing the motor starters, but the Binks appears to be missing a lot of the control gear as well (pressure switch, etc...), while all of that still seems to be there on the Kellog.

I'd probably offer them $300 for the Kellog, $250 for the Binks. If it were single phase, with the motor starter, it'd probably be worth $600-800 easy.
 
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I'd offer $100-$150 for either of them. Businesses wanting to get rid of equipment aren't usually interested in profiting from the deal just getting it out of the way ASAP (a lot of times they get hauled off as part of the deal for the replacement).
Also finding buyers isn't super easy. Most places with 3 phase power buy new and most guys don't want to mess with swapping motors.
 
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Leaflessshadetree said:
I'd offer $100-$150 for either of them. Businesses wanting to get rid of equipment aren't usually interested in profiting from the deal just getting it out of the way ASAP (a lot of times they get hauled off as part of the deal for the replacement).
Also finding buyers isn't super easy. Most places with 3 phase power buy new and most guys don't want to mess with swapping motors.
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This is what I was thinking. If I can buy the Kellogg for $100, I'll go for it. If not, they can move it to storage where it will sit forever. I'll have to look at see how much a motor and starter would cost. I don't really NEED a compressor, but it's just so badass that for $100 I'd figure something out.

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Webbie1 said:
This is what I was thinking. If I can buy the Kellogg for $100, I'll go for it. If not, they can move it to storage where it will sit forever. I'll have to look at see how much a motor and starter would cost. I don't really NEED a compressor, but it's just so badass that for $100 I'd figure something out.

Thanks guys,

Warner
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You can get a 5HP mag starter for around $80-100, and a new 5HP 1750 RPM motor for around $300. If you can keep your eyes peeled on e-bay or craigslist, you can definitely find a motor cheaper.
 
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You can get a 5HP mag starter for around $80-100, and a new 5HP 1750 RPM motor for around $300. If you can keep your eyes peeled on e-bay or craigslist, you can definitely find a motor cheaper.
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Good info. So yeah, at $500 all in if the thing were working wouldn't be horrible. Like I said, I don't really "need" a compressor that big, but it's pretty cool. I'd find a use for it. Hahaha.....probably could do a lot with a compressor that large. What are some applications for something that size and capacity?

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Good info. So yeah, at $500 all in if the thing were working wouldn't be horrible. Like I said, I don't really "need" a compressor that big, but it's pretty cool. I'd find a use for it. Hahaha.....probably could do a lot with a compressor that large. What are some applications for something that size and capacity?

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Running powerful air tools continuously - like DA sanders, blasting cabinets, etc...
 
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i had a 5hp kellogg compressor I had to replace it because the high pressure pistons wrist pin slid over and gouged the cylinder wall, I couldn't find a piston or cylinder sleeve.found a 5hp champion, the kellogg was half as loud as the champion wish I could find another kellogg, by the way my kellogg was from 1951 it quit in 2015 so it had a good run.i wouldn't hesitate buying the kellogg.also having to large a compressor is better than to small
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I have a 1958 Kellogg 331, and think $500 would be a steal for one, but only if you really need the air. The compressor you are considering is in better cosmetic condition than mine, but is several years newer. It's overkill for filling tires or running a wrench in a home garage, but for sandblasting or some air tools you would need it. In the last few weeks I did a little blasting and ran a die grinder and needed the air for both.

If you do buy the 331, make sure you find a pretty stout 5 hp motor. While they did originally put 3 to 5 hp motors on these, the 331 displacement is large by modern standards and it needs a real 5 hp for higher output. Mine has a 7.5 hp 240V 1 PH Century TEFC motor, is set up to run 610 rpm and consistently measures 21 cfm at 175 psig tank pressure. The motor is pulling about 28 amps at 248 V to do that. I normally only run it to 150 psi but we tested it up to 175.
 
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Well, my chances of getting these compressors is near 100%. I'm selling the Binks to a friend at a GREAT price, which is enough to cover what I'm paying for both of them. So at least I'll be starting with something that I have no money into with the Kellogg American. I've been searching around for motors and it looks like a decent Baldor L1430T General Purpose AC Motor, Single Phase, 184T Frame, ODTF Enclosure, 5Hp Output, 1725rpm, 60Hz, 230V Voltage is $350 from Amazon, and I do have Prime so shipping would be free. Then it looks like I'd have to get the starter, if it is in fact missing - and if it is, there's a nearly 100% chance that it's in the building somewhere. I have no idea what one looks like, but I'll do some investigating on that. It sure won't do my company any good just laying around. If someone can show me what that looks like, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks again guys - all responses much appreciated,

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Webbie1 said:
Well, my chances of getting these compressors is near 100%. I'm selling the Binks to a friend at a GREAT price, which is enough to cover what I'm paying for both of them. So at least I'll be starting with something that I have no money into with the Kellogg American. I've been searching around for motors and it looks like a decent Baldor L1430T General Purpose AC Motor, Single Phase, 184T Frame, ODTF Enclosure, 5Hp Output, 1725rpm, 60Hz, 230V Voltage is $350 from Amazon, and I do have Prime so shipping would be free. Then it looks like I'd have to get the starter, if it is in fact missing - and if it is, there's a nearly 100% chance that it's in the building somewhere. I have no idea what one looks like, but I'll do some investigating on that. It sure won't do my company any good just laying around. If someone can show me what that looks like, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks again guys - all responses much appreciated,

Warner
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OK, I've seen what the motor starters look like. So it's likely mounted wherever this one was used. I'll try to figure that out and see if they will pull the starter off the wall for me.....if not, we're talking roughly another $100. So still under $500 all in on the compressor, which looks to be a beast.

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I got them! I sold the Quincy/Brinks one to a friend and paid for both of them. Now I have to figure out what's the better option - replace the 3 phase motor with a 1 phase motor and starter or buy a phase converter to convert the 1 phase power to 3 phase. I have to do some homework on this, but am open to suggestions. I definitely pushed the envelope on the Truck's weight capacity.

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