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KMScott

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Talking about Vise Addictions are we. I remember in 2008 I went to a school auction in Denver, they were selling off their woodworking and machine shop departments. In the woodworking shop they had those big 2" thick maple tables 6 ft square with all the lockers underneath and had a Wilton on each corner, at least 6 benches. I was not into vises back then but those Wilton's looked pretty nice. I won the bid for $35, the auctioneer said how many you want and I said all of them. Those words changed my career. After loading up those Wilton's the vises seem to find me. Remember the Golden pile. The 135 vises was in this guys garage in Golden Colorado right next to the Coors Plant and I was the second caller to the Cl ad. I was told the first guy (A GJ Member) bought the first 60 vises and I got the rest at scrap steel price which included a Prentiss 58, Hollands 27H and at least a dozen 6 and 7" vises. I do not look at CL or auctions very often but when I do I get lucky. I look buy a few on e-bay. Dealing with vises everyday I do get calls occasionally with persons selling their vises, not the regular ones but ones that are worth buying. They do not want to deal with selling it so I buy them. Still got a handful of Wilton's that I use for trading. Funny thing is that I do not have a vise mounted on any of my benches, no room. I restore a 1/2 dozen at a time and working on a couple Reeds and Parker's that I kind of like and might save them for my Grandkids. Today's phone calls were a guy wanted a new Parker 955 Dynamic slide since he broke his today thinking that they are still made, a call from a customer wanting prices on a couple Prentiss vises and of course custom jaws built for a Mechanic's vise, one of those red Shop King's. Long winded but that is my story. Pic's of the Golden Pile.
 

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Jaydb07

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Talking about Vise Addictions are we. I remember in 2008 I went to a school auction in Denver, they were selling off their woodworking and machine shop departments. In the woodworking shop they had those big 2" thick maple tables 6 ft square with all the lockers underneath and had a Wilton on each corner, at least 6 benches. I was not into vises back then but those Wilton's looked pretty nice. I won the bid for $35, the auctioneer said how many you want and I said all of them. Those words changed my career. After loading up those Wilton's the vises seem to find me. Remember the Golden pile. The 135 vises was in this guys garage in Golden Colorado right next to the Coors Plant and I was the second caller to the Cl ad. I was told the first guy (A GJ Member) bought the first 60 vises and I got the rest at scrap steel price which included a Prentiss 58, Hollands 27H and at least a dozen 6 and 7" vises. I do not look at CL or auctions very often but when I do I get lucky. I look buy a few on e-bay. Dealing with vises everyday I do get calls occasionally with persons selling their vises, not the regular ones but ones that are worth buying. They do not want to deal with selling it so I buy them. Still got a handful of Wilton's that I use for trading. Funny thing is that I do not have a vise mounted on any of my benches, no room. I restore a 1/2 dozen at a time and working on a couple Reeds and Parker's that I kind of like and might save them for my Grandkids. Today's phone calls were a guy wanted a new Parker 955 Dynamic slide since he broke his today thinking that they are still made, a call from a customer wanting prices on a couple Prentiss vises and of course custom jaws built for a Mechanic's vise, one of those red Shop King's. Long winded but that is my story. Pic's of the Golden Pile.



Great story and photos!


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Previously posted by Shiftless.

Joe: Those ACCOs are pretty rare. Besides you and me, who has one? Is there any other vise with 2 1/2 inch wide jaws that weighs 60 pounds?
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Shift, PghJKB has one posted on page 766, post 15305.---His is missing one jaw pad.
 

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Here is an unusual brand. Acco, made in Bridgeport CT. Yes that bronze nut is original. The color is also original.And yes I know one letter is screwed up but to fix it i need to give the paint a couple more days to cure

The jaws on this one are only 2.5" wide.

Acco vises were made by L M & V co.
 

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Previously posted by Shiftless.

Joe: Those ACCOs are pretty rare. Besides you and me, who has one? Is there any other vise with 2 1/2 inch wide jaws that weighs 60 pounds?
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Shift, PghJKB has one posted on page 766, post 15305.---His is missing one jaw pad.

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And pgh said the jaws on his are FIVE inches wide...double the width of ours.
I have to think that the unusually narrow jaws were designed for a specific purpose. Maybe working on individual links of a big chain perhaps? :dunno:
 

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And pgh said the jaws on his are FIVE inches wide...double the width of ours.
I have to think that the unusually narrow jaws were designed for a specific purpose. Maybe working on individual links of a big chain perhaps? :dunno:

Pressure=Force/Area

So assuming everything else between these versions being the same (weight, screw thread,length etc) and hence the applied force being the same, the narrow jaw should apply twice the pressure. So may they had some special application in mind that needed exceptionally tight grip of the piece (beyond what normal vises could provide). Otherwise why one would make a 60 lb vise with 2.5" jaws? :dunno:
 

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Pressure=Force/Area

So assuming everything else between these versions being the same (weight, screw thread,length etc) and hence the applied force being the same, the narrow jaw should apply twice the pressure. So may they had some special application in mind that needed exceptionally tight grip of the piece (beyond what normal vises could provide). Otherwise why one would make a 60 lb vise with 2.5" jaws? :dunno:

Spite? :pimpflash
 

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Having finished the American Scale 79, 171 lbs, made me wonder: Who has the *smallest* vintage American swivel-jaw vise? I’d really like to see it.


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Supposedly per vise spread sheet

Yankee model 1991 with 1 1/2" jaws weight (~2 lb) but there is no photo :sad:

followed by several Prentiss with 1 3/4"jaws model# 30,35,36, A, C (see photos in the link below)

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7364685&postcount=584

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2658164&postcount=6409
 

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Jay, this is my smallest swivel jaw vise on top of my biggest vise of any type ... both Prentiss. Small is 1-3/4, big is 8-1/2.5308e78e762b440cb970847ff4516018.jpg

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Very nice vises and great contrast.

VA
It seems your Starrett has been a bad boy and is doing time in a chain gang along with some other big fellows :bounce: (I hope that you are not keeping these fine fellow outside and that is why they are all chained up and locked up)
 

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Having finished the American Scale 79, 171 lbs, made me wonder: Who has the *smallest* vintage American swivel-jaw vise? I’d really like to see it.


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Not the smallest swivel jaw at 2", but the prettiest! 1894 Lightining Vise. Swivel base/swivel jaw
 

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Time to restore this Reed 204. It doesn’t really have much original finish appeal left (to me) so I’ll go ahead and paint this one. First Reed I’ve disassembled. Interesting deliberately-cracked nut holds in the main screw. Damn I like Reeds. Everything is so nicely machined and fit. IMG_6492.jpgIMG_6507.jpgIMG_6508.jpg


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Time to restore this Reed 204. It doesn’t really have much original finish appeal left (to me) so I’ll go ahead and paint this one. First Reed I’ve disassembled. Interesting deliberately-cracked nut holds in the main screw. Damn I like Reeds. Everything is so nicely machined and fit. IMG_6492.jpgIMG_6507.jpgIMG_6508.jpg


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Always fun to polish up the “jewelry.”IMG_6512.jpg


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that nut/backlash adjuster in back of the Reed is stock, and just punch the pin from underneath once you have the base off. you got it right Reeds are top notch
 
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that nut/backlash adjuster in back of the Reed is stock, and just punch the pin from underneath once you have the base off. you got it right Reeds are top notch



Ah so it is not threaded in? It is just a press fit? And to reinstall I just tap it in from above? Makes me wonder why it have the big deep slot in the top like for a large screwdriver or drag link socket.


Signature? Ok: I want a ****** “Lightning” vise.
 

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Very nice vises and great contrast.

VA
It seems your Starrett has been a bad boy and is doing time in a chain gang along with some other big fellows :bounce: (I hope that you are not keeping these fine fellow outside and that is why they are all chained up and locked up)



The Starrett is doing a nickel, hard labor.---I caught it pressing a bearing,---He'd been warned.---Can't play favorites.:headshake
 

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Well I received the little Athol that I had thought was going to be my newest challenge. It was an eBay purchase that was supposedly completely seized up. Turns out that the vise was shipped to me already apart, so less seized than advertised. Turns it from a challenge to a standard restoration. I guess it speaks volumes about me that I'm slightly disappointed lol!

Ah well, it's in darn good shape and should be a pretty little cute
little sucker when done!

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Good day for vises.
Thats a Parker 482 swivel vise.
Has the swivel lock wrench and no damage.
It was on the bottom shelf of a closed cabinet,
priced but not in view. $3 !!
Also picked up this Milwaukee Tool and Equpment Co vise.
Must be from Japan as I do see others
with Made in USA casting, this one does not..
But it's a solid vise, wieighs right at 22 lbs,
not bad for a home owners vise.
 

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I don't know who ***** more, Mayer or Red Vise. Probably RV on the 482 for $3 (!!), but just by a smidgen

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MayerMR -

Looks like that u-beam Athol will clean up nicely. I'm on the lookout for one like it as it's a style I haven't worked on yet. Here's a catalog entry or advertisement dated 1922 that I saved at some point if you're interested. c28a69b064a3a0940cc48d30aa107aca.jpg

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