Arborists

[Reit38]

This may be a long shot but I planted 2 rows of Norway spruce seedlings this past spring in my field. I want to add a row of red oak or pin oak ( faster growing oak) what would be the optimal spacing between the spruce and the oak giving each room to grow

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[Firebrick43]

what look do you want? Spacing to give trees to grow will result in wolf trees or trees with large diameter trunks but only 10' tall before massive branches and a huge crown. These type of trees rarely live more than 60 years or so without rot issues and storm damage can bring the huge main limbs down on your house.

Getting tall clear trunks like you would find in a forest will take a much higher density so there is competition to grow vertically instead of out. But it takes culling in the future to keep from stunting all the trees allowing the remaining half to keep reaching for the sky.

 

[Reit38]

My spruce are already planted. My property is 200 ft wide 400ft deep. I'll have to check on how many spruce I have planted across the back 200ft
My plan was just to go across the 200ft inside of the others. Either 1 straight row or staggered. Not sure yet.

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[LS6 Tommy]

I wouldn't want any oak trees in my yard...

Tommy

 

[jabberwoki]

Always plant a tree assuming it`s full size.
Google the species to find sizes and plant them as if they`re full grown.

 

[Reit38]

I wouldn't want any oak trees in my yard...

Tommy

What is wrong with oaks?

I'm looking for a faster growing windbreak. To help with north / north west winds. We live on somewhat of a hill.

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[86Vette]

What is wrong with oaks?

I'm looking for a faster growing windbreak. To help with north / north west winds. We live on somewhat of a hill.

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Yeah what's wrong with oaks?

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[LS6 Tommy]

What is wrong with oaks?

I'm looking for a faster growing windbreak. To help with north / north west winds. We live on somewhat of a hill.

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They are beautiful, but dirty. They drop branches and leaves all year round, then in the fall you get lots of leaves that are like cardboard, the stems stick in the grass and don't move well with a leaf blower. You will get some acorns every year, then about every third year you get a zillion of them. I'm having a "light" year for acorns this year. I have one white oak and I have filled my 6 cubic foot wheel barrow twice. I will probably fill it at least half way again. The last time we had a "big" crop I moved 6 wheelbarrows full. Pain in the neck.

Tommy

 

[MushCreek]

I'll take your oaks, if you take my sweet gums.

 

[LS6 Tommy]

I'll take your oaks, if you take my sweet gums.

You don't see them too often around here. There were lots of them where I grew up. We used to have "pricker ball" fights with the seed pods. They were a ***** to get out of the girls' long hair...

Tommy

 

[Falcon67]

LOL - LS6 is right. Last year was the Year of the Acorn in the front yard (Live Oaks)

But, I still prefer our Live Oaks and Hackberry trees to those cursed Mesquites.

 

[fourjeepin]

I have a bunch of hickory. This time of year you don’t want to spend much time under them.

 

[Rory Bellows]

Yeah what's wrong with oaks?

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Oaks also shed their leaves much later in the fall. I've had all other trees barren and the oaks still got their leaves. Plus their leaves are very acidic. Makes cleaning up leaves a much longer process.

 

[CN Spots]

I'll take your oaks, if you take my sweet gums.

^ditto. It's like walking on a pile of ball bearings. And they're indestructible too.

I'm almost certain that the armor on M1 Abrams is comprised mostly of Sweetgum balls.

 

[LS6 Tommy]

^ditto. It's like walking on a pile of ball bearings. And they're indestructible too.

So is my front yard on the "big" acorn years. The last time the acorns were bad I blew/raked/scooped 9 wheel barrows full. That's 54 cubic feet of acorns from a 20' x 30' piece of grass...

Tommy