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Remote Hose Connection

bad_idea

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I have a fire hydrant laying around, found it years ago and have decided to plumb a hose bib into it. I plan to install a flange with a section of pipe welded to it in the driveway in front of the garage. Set the bottom of the pipe into concrete about 24" down. Punch a hole in the side of the pipe about 18" down, and route a 4" piece of pvc drainage pipe into the side of the pipe. The other side of the pvc drainage pipe will be routed into the crawl space to be tied into the house cold water line. Planning on installing a ball valve in the crawl space with another valve installed immediately following the isolation valve. At the end of the summer plan to close the isolation valve, open the vent valve, and hook up to the hose bib w/ compressed air to blow the line dry. For anyone who is still with me at this point, and actually followed any of that rambling - sound good? Suggestions?
 
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Milton Shaw

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The big problem is if you had a fire and the fire department tried to use it. If you do this mark it so it cannot be confused with a real hydrant when time counts.
 

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The big problem is if you had a fire and the fire department tried to use it. If you do this mark it so it cannot be confused with a real hydrant when time counts.
For his reason, some jurisdictions do not allow visible non-operable fire hydrants that look like city hydrants.
 
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bad_idea

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It will be painted blue with silver ends. I am in a small subdivision (35 or so houses) out in the county. Very minimal risk of being mistaken for a functioning hydrant. Will post a sign to remove any further doubt.
 

kbs2244

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You have described a DIY frost proof valve.
It will work.

For those worried about the local fire department, this is where posting your location helps.

Pasquotank, NC is not a town, it is a county.
The local FD is most likely a VFD.
And the fact that the fire plug in question is "For decoration only" will be known by all involved.
 
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bad_idea

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It will also be 1' off the face of my garage 100' into my yard.

I find it interesting that you point out the benefit of posting one's location and you do not have yours listed. :lol: Where you at? Most folks around my area do not know where Pasquotank is, let alone folks from out of state.
 

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The big problem is if you had a fire and the fire department tried to use it. If you do this mark it so it cannot be confused with a real hydrant when time counts.

This. Fire hydrants have to be covered or clearly marked "Out Of Service" so the FD does not try to use them.

In any event, blue is not an NFPA recognized body color, nor is silver for the top or alternate caps, so most reasonably intelligent firemen would probably realize it is not a functional hydrant.

Tommy
 
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This. Fire hydrants have to be covered or clearly marked "Out Of Service" so the FD does not try to use them.

In any event, blue is not an NFPA recognized body color, nor is silver for the top or alternate caps, so most reasonably intelligent firemen would probably realize it is not a functional hydrant.

Tommy

I've seen at least two different shades of blue used in my region, and have seen silver on tops and caps (though I don't recall seeing silver over blue). Here, I will note that NFPA 291 is merely a recommendation, and in fairness, the majority of fire departments do not follow its guidelines.

On Long Island, each fire district, which generally covers one or two "hamlets" (more commonly, but incorrectly known as "towns"), has their own distinct color pattern. These all LONG predate NFPA 291, and with a functional system in place, there is no call to change things. Local firefighters know the color of their district's active hydrants, and that of their neighbors. I will note there that as water mains are replaced, new hydrants are installed. These new hydrants are ordered from the factory in different colors, and are only painted to match the local color scheme after they are ready to place into service (at which point the old hydrants are bagged until removal).

In my local fire station, they have a custom printed map that shows every street with every house number, as well as the location of every hydrant (and the trucks carry a software version of this as well). We also highlight the location of hydrants with a blue reflector set into the street, so active hydrants are easy to spot, and nobody would accidentally tap into a dead one.
 

kbs2244

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Good catch!
I am in Lake County, IL
Far NE corner of IL

Your post just sounded "country" so I Googled "Pasquotank"
I was right.
 
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