The VISES of Garage Journal

[GETRIDAONE]

Jelloyeti,

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331362&highlight=FPU

The one Mark worked on is a 3 1/2" but there is also 6" model at about 100 lbs.

 

[rmalkow2]

It was suggested I post about this vise here.
I started a thread on it in Free Parking about a week ago.
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I paid 5 bucks for this Wilton USA woodworking vise at a neighbor's garage sale.
What can you tell me about the vise?
I'm interested in when it was manufactured.
Also what is the purpose of the little lever in the middle that moves the rectangular steel piece up and down?

Jon,
I tried to find a picture to explain the use for the pop up dog and while this one does not have it shown in use I think it gives the idea. Typically the top of the vise jaws would be mounted flush (or slightly sub-flush) with the bench top surface. So, to hold longer boards on top of the bench it would typically have multiple spaced holes drilled for removable dogs and then you pop up the one on your vise which then extends above the bench top surface and allow you to clamp a longer board between the dogs and let you work the longer piece.
Also you can mount the vise as shown in this picture or, on the end of the bench to have really long reach clamping capability.
For $5 I think you got a good deal on a decent wood working vise. Looks like it just needs a good cleaning and little else to be usable.

Bob

 

[bfd305]

Scrap Pile Vice save

Picked this one out of a scrap pile at a farm. Spent weeks soaking it, but gat it all freed up and apart. Need some swivel locks and some paint.

Any ideas on what brand it may be?

 

[kenc184]

Just picked up a Parker 383-1/2. Very rusty, but looks almost unused. The screw is perfect, slide is good, jaws look really nice, no damage.
Of course the swivel base is frozen - both the large central nut underneath and the swivel lock. The jaw swivel pin is frozen too. Currently the vise has a couple of those frozen areas swimming in penetrating fluid but t be honest I have had very little luck with penetrating fluid of many different types over the year. Guess I'll reload my electrolysis "tank" ready for some action. Very happy to have a swivel jaw vise - even though it's only a small one.

BTW, how do you get that darned spring pin off the base - the one that secures the wrench?

 

[lis2323]

I vertical receivered this No3 Record on my mobile work table.




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[trijeff]

Lis, if I ever win the lottery I want to hire you as my shop guy ... gorgeous work as always

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[rusty65]

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What kind of vise is that green one in the back ground? The slide support looks like reed to me but the swivel lock looks to small to be a reed?


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[lis2323]

Lis, if I ever win the lottery I want to hire you as my shop guy ... gorgeous work as always

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[emoji23][emoji23]

Having been self employed my entire life and retired now, ANY pay check would be a lottery win for me!


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[lis2323]

Rusty:

That’s a Reed 4CA.


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[va.grouseman]

Some of you fellows say that you have never seen an 8 inch vise in the wild, well now you can own a 10 incher, and a combo at that.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/WILTON-Mec...item3fadd8fe17:g:gLUAAOSw18Jbu8OW:rk:207:pf:0

 

[trijeff]

Man those are ugly

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[gman007]

Just picked up a Parker 383-1/2. Very rusty, but looks almost unused. The screw is perfect, slide is good, jaws look really nice, no damage.
Of course the swivel base is frozen - both the large central nut underneath and the swivel lock. The jaw swivel pin is frozen too. Currently the vise has a couple of those frozen areas swimming in penetrating fluid but t be honest I have had very little luck with penetrating fluid of many different types over the year. Guess I'll reload my electrolysis "tank" ready for some action. Very happy to have a swivel jaw vise - even though it's only a small one.

BTW, how do you get that darned spring pin off the base - the one that secures the wrench?

Ken
You might have better luck with electrolysis (it is very simple to setup, there is even a thread here for it, or you can just go to to YouTube for instructions) or use Evapo-Rust solution (can get it from many places including Amazon)

Alternatively you can try heat but have to be careful not to overheat cast iron

 

[gman007]

Some of you fellows say that you have never seen an 8 inch vise in the wild, well now you can own a 10 incher, and a combo at that.

VA

This seems to be Chinese junk! Shame on Wilton, very sad state of affair.

 

[454ragtop]

Something a little different, found this over the weekend at a local estate sale. I grabbed it thinking it was a hand vise, but when I got home and studied it closer, I started to think it was some sort of clamp on puller. Pretty slick how the jaws move parallel. Posted it over on OWWM and someone ID'ed it as a Goodell Pratt hand vise. Sure enough, there it is on page 227 of this catalog http://www.blackburntools.com/articles/rose-tools-catalog-archives/pdfs/goodell-pratt-no-16.pdf
Part # 360 Lineman's Hand Vise, what I thought might be a pulling loop is actually a ring to hang on a lineman's belt.

 

[454ragtop]

RE those Wilton 10" vises, I can just imagine how easy those slide tubes will bend, seeing how easy the Tradesman vises bend their slide tubes.

 

[va.grouseman]

VA

This seems to be Chinese junk! Shame on Wilton, very sad state of affair.

Agreed.---Chinese.---But the universal consensus seems to be, ("who cares, as long as it sells").

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I finished up the little parker 973 finally. The casting on the letters was pretty rough. I am still not sure if the pat. date is 1880 or 1890 If I filed them down much more I would have lost the letters completely.

 

[MissileBear]

Agreed.---Chinese.---But the universal consensus seems to be, ("who cares, as long as it sells").

Which, kills me, because Chinese manufacturing can be top notch....I mean, they have a substantial space program and formidable military technology.

That Wilton looks similar to that Palmgren posted a few pages back.

 

[kenc184]

Ken
You might have better luck with electrolysis (it is very simple to setup, there is even a thread here for it, or you can just go to to YouTube for instructions) or use Evapo-Rust solution (can get it from many places including Amazon)

Alternatively you can try heat but have to be careful not to overheat cast iron

gman,

Yep, I've been doing electrolysis for 10 or 15 years now. The slide of the parker's been in the soup for 12 hours now (usually a couple of hours is good enough but there's no rush).
Always used it to descale, depaint and derust. I've never seen it unseize a stuck pin or corroded in bolt but I am sure willing to give it a go!

 

[rusty65]

I finished up the little parker 973 finally. The casting on the letters was pretty rough. I am still not sure if the pat. date is 1880 or 1890 If I filed them down much more I would have lost the letters completely.

I hate to tell you this but your wrong on both accounts it’s a 1930 patent.


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[mgmlvks]

I hate to tell you this but your wrong on both accounts it’s a 1930 patent.

Hmm - if so - here is one that relates to keeping the wrench on the swivel and ready to operate - uses a spring clip to prevent the wrench from being removed so it is always available.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US1778576?oq=parker+vise+1930

 

[kwoswalt99]

VA

This seems to be Chinese junk! Shame on Wilton, very sad state of affair.

Why is it junk? Just because it’s made in China?

 

[gman007]

Why is it junk? Just because it’s made in China?

YES by definition!

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I hate to tell you this but your wrong on both accounts it’s a 1930 patent.


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DOH! Ok thanks I will have to touch the paint to make it read correctly

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I also picked up this one over the weekend.

 

[gman007]

Which, kills me, because Chinese manufacturing can be top notch....I mean, they have a substantial space program and formidable military technology.

All their military technology is based on copies of mostly Russian military equipment and at that not a good copy either, or whatever technology they can steal from west through espionage.

Their single small jump deck aircraft carrier Liaoning was built in Ukraine by Soviet Union and was purchased from Ukraine after collapse of the Soviet union.

Their so called fifth Generation fighter plane Shenyang J-31 is a copy of Russian Su-35, and the engines are copies of sub par Russian RD-93 engines.

Their main battle tank Type 99 (9910) is a copy of the Russian T-72 and T-80.

And the list does on.....

Same goes for the civilian technologies (google Chinese industrial espionage). For goodness sake, they are uprooting and stealing GMO corn straight from farms.

PS
There are two technologies that Chinese excel in, theft and bad copies. But then again what one can expect from a nation that adulterates milk and infant formula with known carcinogen Melamine and has no mercy even on its own infants let alone the rest of the world.

 

[gman007]

I also picked up this one over the weekend.

Very nice find!

 

[ddawg16]

I just got this from my neighbor (WWII vet who passed away recently)

It says made in USA, but I can't find any other markings other than the size.

 

[honza.vosalik]

I also picked up this one over the weekend.

Another 0519x? Wow...

 

[Mr_P]

DOH! Ok thanks I will have to touch the paint to make it read correctly

I had to search for an old post of mine from, to my surprise, three years and 2 days ago in order to see if my Parker 975 had the Patent date. It doesn't....

 

[mgmlvks]

I had to search for an old post of mine from, to my surprise, three years and 2 days ago in order to see if my Parker 975 had the Patent date. It doesn't....

But it does have the handy patented lock down handle keeper!

 

[kwoswalt99]

YES by definition!

Whatever dude.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Another 0519x? Wow...

Yes, unfortunately this one wont be staying with me. A friend of mine had seen some of my other work on vises and asked if I would restore one for him. He is an older gentleman and fondly remembered the past glory days of Craftsman. I gave him some of the info (and lore) on the 0519x series and he was hooked. He found this one on the local CL. Ive got it apart and soaking in degreaser at the moment. I'll post pictures of the completed poduct. I would imagine that this one and my 5197 are going to be the last ones that pop up near me for a long time.

 

[KMScott]

But it does have the handy patented lock down handle keeper!

I could not source the wire clips, the good ones are heat treated spring steel. I had to make my own out of stiff Silicon Bronze Tig rod by hand, have you ever sourced these. I used to buy small hard to find stuff like these clips from a company called Small Parts but I can not find their website.

 

[honza.vosalik]

Yes, unfortunately this one wont be staying with me. A friend of mine had seen some of my other work on vises and asked if I would restore one for him. He is an older gentleman and fondly remembered the past glory days of Craftsman. I gave him some of the info (and lore) on the 0519x series and he was hooked. He found this one on the local CL. Ive got it apart and soaking in degreaser at the moment. I'll post pictures of the completed poduct. I would imagine that this one and my 5197 are going to be the last ones that pop up near me for a long time.

I found my 05196 without knowing what it actually is when I was looking for my first vise. "Those guys from GJ" told me I should buy it for the $60 and I was hooked too... And I haven't found another locally since then!

 

[IdahoMan]

YES by definition!

If it's made in Crapland(China), good chances are it is junk.

I don't like China. The free and civilized world should not even be trading with them. They are also a threat.

 

[va.grouseman]

I could not source the wire clips, the good ones are heat treated spring steel. I had to make my own out of stiff Silicon Bronze Tig rod by hand, have you ever sourced these. I used to buy small hard to find stuff like these clips from a company called Small Parts but I can not find their website.

Might try cutting one round out of a spring with the correct inside diameter and girth you desire and then put it in a vise and pull one end over till both ends match.---Voila, spring-steel retaining ring.

 

[va.grouseman]

Love that little Sweetheart, KMS.---That's a little gem.

 

[kenc184]

But it does have the handy patented lock down handle keeper!

Any trick to getting the patented spring clip off? I have a nice collection of Knipex spring clip pliers but this clip doesn't have any lugs to grip on to! Tried prising it off with a pair of screwdrivers but I don't want to bu**er it up......

 

[RAGGED]

I used to buy small hard to find stuff like these clips from a company called Small Parts but I can not find their website.

I believe Small Parts was purchased by Amazon 5-6 years ago, at least that is what I seem to remember.