You have a pile of anvils?LOL!
It's my breezeway... Along with a pile of anvils!
The reason I keep them in the house is because...
I'm not married!
Take Care!
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zoomieport
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I have a few...
zoomieport
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I just cleaned up a Hay Budden 57#...
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I can’t read the number but it must be low. What are you going to do with it?
zoomieport
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zoomieport
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Sorry to hijack the thread... I'm done now.
I agree on the tool steel and I believe it is genuine.
It has great rebound and clear ring.
The it what appears to be a sideways 8 under the horn, good eye!
Here's two more pictures, you can barley make out the "57" weight marking.
Thanks!
Mike
I agree on the tool steel and I believe it is genuine.
It has great rebound and clear ring.
The it what appears to be a sideways 8 under the horn, good eye!
Here's two more pictures, you can barley make out the "57" weight marking.
Thanks!
Mike
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It’s a beautiful piece and definitely genuine. The tool steel top would indicate an earlier model. Those are going for a pretty penny these days. I swear I can see a faint 2099_ on the front foot.
MayerMR
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I finished up the little wilton cadet. I got the owner to throw it in when I bought the Morgan 160 and the Craftsman 5197. It came out pretty good. Cutting that welded plate off the base took waaaaaaay to long but I am glad I did it. I never did figure out if there was supposed to be a dust cap on the end
Looks great. Those jaws look so good that I thought you replaced them some some of Kevin's at first, but I believe they are the ones that were on them, right?
You mean you *don't* have a 275lb vise inside your house?
Beautiful anvil. I wish they didn't go for such ridiculous sums in the Dallas-Ft Worth area. I was lucky enough to mention to my neighbor that I was looking for a decent anvil to replace the cruddy Harbor Freight chunk of cast iron that I was whacking on - and btw, I live in a suburb, not in the country - and he says, "I think I have and old one out on the farm that I'll grab for you next time I go out there. It's kind of small, but you can have it. I need to keep my bigger one though...". I thanked him for his kind offer, but quickly forgot about it until he called me and said I could come pick it up. I'll be darned if he didn't give me a helluva anvil. Refused any pay and just asked me to help him move some heavy landscaping rocks around with him the next morning. It's a great anvil and I love it. Still want to find a bigger one, one day, but man, certainly love this one - I'll have it until I'm in the ground.
Little before/after:
Wow, the Swedes make damn good steel. I bet that's an excellent anvil, not that I know anything about anvils!
I picked up a couple projects tonight, I probably overpaid but oh, well $121 for the pair.
A Prentiss swivel jaw 4-1/2" and a no name leg vice with 3-3/4" jaws. The Prentiss has no numbers on it at all (except a 13 underneath the slide which may be a date code perhaps?) which is weird, except "Prentiss NY" behind the swivel jaw.
Weight : 56 lbs
This is going to take some refurb to look anything at all, plus I think getting the pin out of the swivel will be way harder than my Parker was since there's no convenient hole in the base to knock it out through. I see some serious electrolysis in its future!
Would I be right in guessing this is a #3 Prentiss?
Edit: it has cast in jaws too......
Any idea who made this?
I picked up a couple projects tonight, I probably overpaid but oh, well $121 for the pair.
A Prentiss swivel jaw 4-1/2" and a no name leg vice with 3-3/4" jaws. The Prentiss has no numbers on it at all (except a 13 underneath the slide which may be a date code perhaps?) which is weird, except "Prentiss NY" behind the swivel jaw.
Weight : 56 lbs
This is going to take some refurb to look anything at all, plus I think getting the pin out of the swivel will be way harder than my Parker was since there's no convenient hole in the base to knock it out through. I see some serious electrolysis in its future!
Would I be right in guessing this is a #3 Prentiss?
Edit: it has cast in jaws too......
Any idea who made this?
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Outlawmws
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Zoomie, show the picture of the Anvil 
tree!
tree!va.grouseman
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LOL!
It's my breezeway... Along with a pile of anvils!
The reason I keep them in the house is because...
I'm not married!
Take Care!
ZOOM
Zoom, if a pretty girl ever steals your heart, your back will never stand the strain.---You're resigned to bachelorhood.
mgmlvks
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My Wilton Flip Grip (tilt) Vise needs a tune up
Questions are
1. This is missing the main handle- guidance as to length and material to make one?
2. Is/Was there a bushing in the dynamic jaw to take up the slop in the screw?
3. Is there a parts diagram as to what came with the vise as for jaws inserts?
Questions are
1. This is missing the main handle- guidance as to length and material to make one?
2. Is/Was there a bushing in the dynamic jaw to take up the slop in the screw?
3. Is there a parts diagram as to what came with the vise as for jaws inserts?
trijeff
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ken, that's a Prentiss 19 and the post vise is a Peter Wright. Nice pick ups.
EDIT: take it back, that post vise is likely a Columbian
EDIT: take it back, that post vise is likely a Columbian
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That sideways 8 looks more like a lower case g to me. Not sure what that means.
Maui
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Mayer, that is some neighbor you have! A Kohlswa anvil is made from cast steel, and the older ones are quite hard and ring like a bell. There's a 72 pound one for sale on Ebay right now with more than 3 days to go, with the opening bid at about $600.
I'd help move a few boulders around for one of those.
I'd help move a few boulders around for one of those.
Mr. Wonderful
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Looks great. Those jaws look so good that I thought you replaced them some some of Kevin's at first, but I believe they are the ones that were on them, right?
Mayer, yes they are the jaws that came with it. They do have more chips on the under side I flipped them over. Thanks
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drivesitfar
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KenC: I think your prentiss is a #3 or it might be a #4 cause a 19 like TJ mentioned is a 3 inch swivel jaw swivel base Prentiss. there might be a # on top of the static just in the back of the swivel jaw. nice find!!
CRS: Yep that's the REED PICTURE I was thinking of. THANKS!!
GET: I'm guessing if the bottom vises in the picture are REED 109's and 209's if that rack was still sitting around with new 1915 vises you might have to put a zero or two behind your figures.
can you imagine what a new old stock Reed 109 or 209 or 408 would sell for?
CRS: Yep that's the REED PICTURE I was thinking of. THANKS!!
GET: I'm guessing if the bottom vises in the picture are REED 109's and 209's if that rack was still sitting around with new 1915 vises you might have to put a zero or two behind your figures.
can you imagine what a new old stock Reed 109 or 209 or 408 would sell for?
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1) I wrote a blog on how I make handles and happy to help with a drawing so you can make your own. Click HERE.
3) The jaws are a flat smooth set with two 3/16 Dowel's pressed in at 2-3/8 center to center. I made a set once and once only. I added a drawing. One note I will add is if you tap the holes to 1/4:20 then normal Wilton 4 x 3/4 x 1/2 thick jaws will bolt up.
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chrisnazzy
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That's an early example of a very nice Prentiss swivel jaw stationary base. Seems they are more common in the swivel base variety. I agree with Drives, most likely a #3.
I've included a catalog page that I cropped to just show that variety of Prentiss. The page does show the vise with script style writing, much smaller "meatball" and removable jaws which are characteristics of the next generation of Prentiss vises, most likely 1920's to 1930's.
I also have a Prentiss swivel jaw with cast in jaws and the Prentiss, NY behind the swivel jaw and when I was researching age the consensus seemed to indicate that Prentiss patented their removable jaws in 1911 so yours would have been manufactured prior to that.
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Prior to WWI, that's quite something! Thanks for dating it. And to think I debated over buying this vise due to having more than enough already - I suspect you regulars will laugh at that ...."more than enough".
Does yours also have no indication of model number? I've seen them online (searching since last night) where the "Prentiss NY" would have "No **" below it. On mine there is nothing other than "Prentiss NY".
It looks rough, but the jaw faces are good - albeit with very light checkering, there's little damage on top of the jaws. The screw and nut are good. Minimal marks on the slide. The only damage is that visible on the picture at the back of the swivel jaw - won't affect function and I am torn over whether to build it up with braze or not.
What was the original color of Prentiss vises?
chrisnazzy
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My Prentiss swivel jaw is marked with the model number. It's a no. 21 with 5 1/4" jaws and listed at 109lbs. I found it on FB marketplace in May of this year. The seller was about 60 miles away but actually had it delivered to me by one of his co workers who lived in my area. I paid full asking price of $40.
It's dirty little secret is that the screw was shortened by a couple inches at some point in it's 100+ year lifetime. It's really not that bad, it just doesn't open the full 8".
My wife wants me to leave it as is because when we buy our new house next year she wants me to make it into our mailbox holder. Picture the vise on a metal pole or decorative stand of similar patina with a regulation size mailbox secured in its jaws. It's not a sure thing yet and I'm still envisioning how to attach the mailbox to the vise without welding or bolting into the vise. I figure it will be easy to disable the vise from opening or closing when the handle is turned so as to keep the mailbox from being crushed if someone decides to give the handle a couple turns. I'll just replace the nut with one I'll make that just gives the screw a smooth barrel to go through or rest in. Ultimately though it's all just an idea she's put in my head and not a sure thing. And yes, she is a keeper for sure, my wife that is!
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It's dirty little secret is that the screw was shortened by a couple inches at some point in it's 100+ year lifetime. It's really not that bad, it just doesn't open the full 8".
My wife wants me to leave it as is because when we buy our new house next year she wants me to make it into our mailbox holder. Picture the vise on a metal pole or decorative stand of similar patina with a regulation size mailbox secured in its jaws. It's not a sure thing yet and I'm still envisioning how to attach the mailbox to the vise without welding or bolting into the vise. I figure it will be easy to disable the vise from opening or closing when the handle is turned so as to keep the mailbox from being crushed if someone decides to give the handle a couple turns. I'll just replace the nut with one I'll make that just gives the screw a smooth barrel to go through or rest in. Ultimately though it's all just an idea she's put in my head and not a sure thing. And yes, she is a keeper for sure, my wife that is!
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I have an old note which I believe is based on an old GJ thread on the subject of of color of vises (unfortunately I can not find the link for the thread right now) that says " Prentiss were black or a wine color" but I have no way to validate this fact.
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My Prentiss swivel jaw is marked with the model number. It's a no. 21 with 5 1/4" jaws and listed at 109lbs. I found it on FB marketplace in May of this year. The seller was about 60 miles away but actually had it delivered to me by one of his co workers who lived in my area. I paid full asking price of $40.
It's dirty little secret is that the screw was shortened by a couple inches at some point in it's 100+ year lifetime. It's really not that bad, it just doesn't open the full 8".
My wife wants me to leave it as is because when we buy our new house next year she wants me to make it into our mailbox holder. Picture the vise on a metal pole or decorative stand of similar patina with a regulation size mailbox secured in its jaws. It's not a sure thing yet and I'm still envisioning how to attach the mailbox to the vise without welding or bolting into the vise. I figure it will be easy to disable the vise from opening or closing when the handle is turned so as to keep the mailbox from being crushed if someone decides to give the handle a couple turns. I'll just replace the nut with one I'll make that just gives the screw a smooth barrel to go through or rest in. Ultimately though it's all just an idea she's put in my head and not a sure thing. And yes, she is a keeper for sure, my wife that is!
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Here’s a later model from the 30’s that I found on eBay about a month ago.
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RedVise
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Speaking of Prentiss vises, I passed on a very small one at the tractor show that looked to have the swivel jaw welded up.
I did pick up a small Stanley that too had been welded, this one to a base plate, Too cute to pass on.
Anyone know the maker of the big red clamp on vise at the bottom. Looks to be the big brother of the Stanley Victor Jersey no.743 on the left. The red one has no markings.
Brian
I did pick up a small Stanley that too had been welded, this one to a base plate, Too cute to pass on.
Anyone know the maker of the big red clamp on vise at the bottom. Looks to be the big brother of the Stanley Victor Jersey no.743 on the left. The red one has no markings.
Brian
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Alrighty then, let’s kick the tires and light the fires. Here’s my third best Craigslist day ever. 416 lbs of vises all found the same day at the same location. Columbian no. 508, Prentiss no. 22 and a 5” Wilton with aluminum ear muffs.
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davethorik
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Brian the big red one probably a Stanley as well. I have an unbranded Stanley, although it is the lighter duty style, it almost the same color. They probably did a bit of "badge engineering" for other companies.
454ragtop
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X2, try cleaning the top of the slide, a lot of them are marked there.
Any idea who made this?
Very faintly it says something I can't read over T TON. I assume that lower word is Trenton? Perhaps the electrolysis will help?
va.grouseman
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Smitty, excellent haul.---The #22 is a beauty.---Were they all three advertised or did you go to see about one and found the rest there?
You know if you find a swivel base for that 508, it becomes a 608.---Of course you might have to do some restamping.
You know if you find a swivel base for that 508, it becomes a 608.---Of course you might have to do some restamping.
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RedVise
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davethorik and 454ragtop, Thanks, guys !
I did check the slide, nada! Rebadged is likely, I mean it's a exact copy.
No matter, it's a keeper.
Brian
I did check the slide, nada! Rebadged is likely, I mean it's a exact copy.
No matter, it's a keeper.
Brian
Thanks. The Prentiss was the best of the bunch and the original pin is under that cap that somebody jammed on there. Originally I went for the Prentiss but once I saw the other vises not being used I made offers. It was a valve company that was downsizing. I’ll keep my eyes open for that 608 base, that would be a nice addition.
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akasrick
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Looks like one of these, maybe something marked on the on the anvil or the end of the handle
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7292937#post7292937
Was bought by Stanley
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