30x35 detached stick build in FL

[alxmlr789]

Hi guys, i am in my beginning stages of a 30x35 stick build in central FL. It is in a residential area on 1.5 acres, built next to my attached 20x24 2 car. It will get 12 ft walls, a 2 post lift and hopefully a 4 post for storage. 2 10x10 garage doors. I have a NASA / SCCA time trial BMW that will be housed/worked on. Once the building is finished i will probably be adding another race car to the stable.

Was originally going with a steel building, but after figuring out sectional door prices, insulation and actual home value of a “portable” type building, it was only a few thousand more for a stick built. The contractor specializes in building garages, does everything from concrete to the top of the roof. Permits, engineered drawings, pretty much turnkey besides electrical. Really wanted to do it myself, but for additional price of labor i could not pass up. Here are a few pictures of the land i excavated last week. I had about 15 trees i dug out. This will probably be about 6 months start to finish, i will keep this updated!

Fun shot of the m3



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[zoepop]

Look forward to seeing what you do with it. Good luck

 

[alxmlr789]

Been quite a while since I have updated, but progress is being made, slab has been poured and the building will be underway here in the next few weeks.

 

[jimreed2160]

Great start!

 

[Styx]

Wow 3 years from clearing to concrete... SLOW DOWN there your going to pull a muscle...lol...
Just kidding looking forward to seeing it finished...


Ok my bad I looked at your join date on the first post not the posting date...lol...

 

[Dividing Creek]

Wow 3 years from clearing to concrete...

May 18 to early December 18- I get 7 mos.
3 yrs must be that new math I keep hearing about.

 

[Farrier]

Awesome. I love stick builds. Way too much pole building play on here.

 

[alxmlr789]

Wow 3 years from clearing to concrete... SLOW DOWN there your going to pull a muscle...lol...
Just kidding looking forward to seeing it finished...

3 years? Hm. I think you need to adjust your calendar settings in your profile

 

[alxmlr789]

So significant progress has been made this week. Originally was supposed to be put up end of january, but the holidays pushed back my contractor, then i went on vacation and didn't want them working while i was gone. Last thursday morning the building got delivered and it was up and the roof (panels) were on by friday afternoon. HardieBoard, doors, windows and shingles go on Monday and should be ready for paint by tuesday if the finals all pass inspection.

 

[alxmlr789]

For reference, they build all the trusses, and walls in their warehouse, and bring them out and assemble on property.

 

[Jfive]

Are you in a city or country. Curious how Florida is for building codes?

 

[alxmlr789]

Are you in a city or country. Curious how Florida is for building codes?

I’m in Seminole county with a Maitland address (primarily due to the post office). I’m fortunate to not have to deal with city of Maitland codes, or Orange County codes. Really lucked out on where i live because Seminole county is very lenient on their building codes compared to orange. The next street to the south is Orange County with Maitland addresses and the next street to the north is Seminole county with city of altamonte springs addresses.

 

[jimmie jam]

I'm in on this great project....

 

[alxmlr789]

Here’s a few progress photos of the garage. The keys have been handed to me and next step is paint and cement skirt.

 

[alxmlr789]

Gettin no love around here! Few updates coming this weekend.

 

[swflge8]

That looks like a good size garage, codes in FL can be a pain. I live in LEE county and here you need a permit for every little thing you do.

Can’t wait to see more updates


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[SteedaGT]

Very nice build! I am in Orange County and am jealous of your lenient building codes.

 

[driftpin]

Very nice build! I am in Orange County and am jealous of your lenient building codes.

Anyone who's been through a Cat 4 or Cat 5 windstorm (Cat=Category) and who has a building constructed under the more-recent Florida building codes will greatly-appreciate their requirements.

Being inland you may-not be in a HVHZ area (high-velocity hurricane zone) but pull up some pics of Punta Gorda or the Panhandle and see what can happen to older buildings during one of these events (the 2018 season Hurricane Michael)

Your code requirements are your best protection against such catastrophic events.

As a first responder in Florida during Hurricane Andrew, I saw what happens during The Big One. It can be a life-changing event. You just cannot imagine what it's like unless you see it first-hand.

Years-later, during Hurricane Wilma, we went door-to-door, if you could call it that, since many of the mobile homes in the community had blown-away, leaving only the foundation plate behind. We were looking for trapped/deceased people in the wreckage. I have a picture of one mobile home end wall left standing, it had a built-in china cabinet and shelving, the type where there's a groove in the shelf into-which you can rest a commemorative dinner plate for display. Standing there were the plates of the homeowner, showing scenes of places they had been, or people they liked. The rest of the single-wide was just gone, as-in nothing left standing.

I saw a GIS-generated map of the community destruction, and you could see where the wind cleared paths through the housing stock. Newly-manufactured homes placed in the same parks came-through relatively-unscathed, while others which were much-older just vanished.

Sure, it costs more to meet stringent codes, but the safety it affords you is worth-it when The Big One arrives.

A question for the OP: did they run straps over both sides of the trusses?

 

[jimmie jam]

Anyone who's been through a Cat 4 or Cat 5 windstorm (Cat=Category) and who has a building constructed under the more-recent Florida building codes will greatly-appreciate their requirements.

Your code requirements are your best protection against such catastrophic events.

Sure, it costs more to meet stringent codes, but the safety it affords you is worth-it when The Big One arrives.

The 600 sf garage addition that you see in my avatar is solid 4,000psi concrete done in 2010. All three garage doors are rated at 175 mph. Cost ? About $105/sf as owner builder.....

 

[driftpin]

The 600 sf garage addition that you see in my avatar is solid 4,000psi concrete done in 2010. All three garage doors are rated at 175 mph. Cost ? About $105/sf as owner builder.....

That's what I'm talkin'-about! Strength. I wonder where you are to have room for something like that, as land is expensive here. You have a lot of mature foliage.

The 1 acre+ lots in Davie have room for something like that, or SW Ranches, and they come-with AG (Agricultural) zoning, so you have flexibility about what you can do on the land. Somethig like that with a house east of US 1 in Ft. Lauderdale is >$1 million, maybe a lot-more (below).

Friends of mine living in Rio Vista (an eastern neighborhood in Ft. Lauderdale w/finger canals going to the ocean, eventually) turned-down an offer of $1 million for their ranch home, Wayne Huizenga's $18 million compound was at the end of the block. They paid < $40K in the 1970's for it as an estate sale, it's probably 2,000 sq. ft.

 

[jimmie jam]

I live about 5 minutes west of Rio Vista right off the South Fork of the New River. Purchased this home in 1980 for $71K. I have eight mature oaks and about 200 palms. My next door neighbor has a 1 acre lot but I'm not quite that lucky. I'll never sell this place cuz you cannot replace it. Funny, when I bought it no one wanted it because of the trees and no sun...go figure.

 

[alxmlr789]

Anyone who's been through a Cat 4 or Cat 5 windstorm (Cat=Category) and who has a building constructed under the more-recent Florida building codes will greatly-appreciate their requirements.

Being inland you may-not be in a HVHZ area (high-velocity hurricane zone) but pull up some pics of Punta Gorda or the Panhandle and see what can happen to older buildings during one of these events (the 2018 season Hurricane Michael)

Your code requirements are your best protection against such catastrophic events.

As a first responder in Florida during Hurricane Andrew, I saw what happens during The Big One. It can be a life-changing event. You just cannot imagine what it's like unless you see it first-hand.

Years-later, during Hurricane Wilma, we went door-to-door, if you could call it that, since many of the mobile homes in the community had blown-away, leaving only the foundation plate behind. We were looking for trapped/deceased people in the wreckage. I have a picture of one mobile home end wall left standing, it had a built-in china cabinet and shelving, the type where there's a groove in the shelf into-which you can rest a commemorative dinner plate for display. Standing there were the plates of the homeowner, showing scenes of places they had been, or people they liked. The rest of the single-wide was just gone, as-in nothing left standing.

I saw a GIS-generated map of the community destruction, and you could see where the wind cleared paths through the housing stock. Newly-manufactured homes placed in the same parks came-through relatively-unscathed, while others just vanished.

Sure, it costs more to meet stringent codes, but the safety it affords you is worth-it when The Big One arrives.

A question for the OP: did they run straps over both sides of the trusses?

Yes over both sides of the trusses. It’s built to 18Mph even though Seminole county code is 140. Wanted that extra piece of mind.

 

[driftpin]

We are in south Miami-Dade Co. Getting ready for retirement (both now retired & 'working' on the second year ), we re-modeled our 3 b.r. home, we were out of it for nearly 2 years. One of the things we did was a new roof, and that included strapping both-sides of the trusses. When the house was built in the 1950's (MCM, they call 'em) you only needed a hurricane strap set into the concrete tie-beam up one side. Now we have the straps fastened on both sides of the trusses, and across the top. Our homeowner's insurance was going to go-up something like $9K/year (!) because of not having the current code roof truss strapping. Stripping-back the 1" x 6" T&G sheathing to do the additional strapping cost about 1/3 of the proposed insurance increase, and we got the best level of membrane, and a flat tile foamed attachment roof.

The code is a minimum, nothing-wrong with building above code. I bet your additional spec work will be rewarded sometime down the road.

Part of the remodel was a new configuration 2-car attached garage for me, w/a loft for storage, and a full bath, w/a laundry/pantry opposite it.

 

[SteedaGT]

Anyone who's been through a Cat 4 or Cat 5 windstorm (Cat=Category) and who has a building constructed under the more-recent Florida building codes will greatly-appreciate their requirements.

Being inland you may-not be in a HVHZ area (high-velocity hurricane zone) but pull up some pics of Punta Gorda or the Panhandle and see what can happen to older buildings during one of these events (the 2018 season Hurricane Michael)

Your code requirements are your best protection against such catastrophic events.

As a first responder in Florida during Hurricane Andrew, I saw what happens during The Big One. It can be a life-changing event. You just cannot imagine what it's like unless you see it first-hand.

Years-later, during Hurricane Wilma, we went door-to-door, if you could call it that, since many of the mobile homes in the community had blown-away, leaving only the foundation plate behind. We were looking for trapped/deceased people in the wreckage. I have a picture of one mobile home end wall left standing, it had a built-in china cabinet and shelving, the type where there's a groove in the shelf into-which you can rest a commemorative dinner plate for display. Standing there were the plates of the homeowner, showing scenes of places they had been, or people they liked. The rest of the single-wide was just gone, as-in nothing left standing.

I saw a GIS-generated map of the community destruction, and you could see where the wind cleared paths through the housing stock. Newly-manufactured homes placed in the same parks came-through relatively-unscathed, while others which were much-older just vanished.

Sure, it costs more to meet stringent codes, but the safety it affords you is worth-it when The Big One arrives.

A question for the OP: did they run straps over both sides of the trusses?

I’ve lived in Florida since ‘88 with a majority of that time being in the Daytona beach area and I’ve worked in architecture and construction for 15 years. I was not talking about the actual building codes, but more so the ability to build a structure on property of that size. I’m barely allowed to add an 8x10 shed in my backyard...

 

[alxmlr789]

I completed Floors completed last week. Painted the building over the weekend. Working on electrical next and getting concrete poured in the next few weeks.

After that, r21 spray foam roof, r19 batts on the walls, drywall and interior paint.

It looks lighter than the house, but it is the same as the bottom potion of the house. The sun on the garage and the house is fully shaded makes it look a little different.

 

[driftpin]

Looks great, be sure to hang a lot of lighting.

 

[kasander]

Did you not want to add some outdoor receptacles, lighting, sillcocks? Best to do them before siding and flash them properly. Here's a picture of the back of my in progress build with everything installed and flashed properly. I kept thinking of more and more things to add...

 

[alxmlr789]

Did you not want to add some outdoor receptacles, lighting, sillcocks? Best to do them before siding and flash them properly. Here's a picture of the back of my in progress build with everything installed and flashed properly. I kept thinking of more and more things to add...

I am going to add afterwards. The contractor who does the builds the garage does not pull an electrical permit and just adds time for him to get inspections complete. The remaining 25% of the bill is not paid until the building passes its final, so i understand why he does not want to mess with electrical. I'll make sure it's done properly, don't worry

 

[vvk645]

nice build

 

[alxmlr789]

Wow it has been a while since I have followed up on this thread.

Since my last picture update, the garage is essentially complete other than a few items here and there.

- Electric all done (DIY'd that)
- Floors done, epoxy with urethane coating
- 5" of Spray foam insulation on the ceiling, R19 batts on the walls, 2" Foam Board in the doors (that was a PITA!)
- Drywall done on walls, metal corrugated roof material as the ceiling
- 2 Post Atlas Apex 10k overhead lift
- 6 LED high bays, plenty of light in here with the white walls and epoxy floors
- MRCool 24K AC unit. Stays at 84 degrees most days, just need to keep dry.
- Newage Pro 3.0 cabinets along the back wall
- 55" TCL so I can watch baseball, whenever this COVID situation gets wrapped up.

To do:
- Home gym in back left corner
- Artwork on the walls, i have some track outlines i will be hanging shortly
- 25x 12 racedeck pad under the lift.

Pics to follow

 

[alxmlr789]

Here are some photos from the last year. I tried to go in order, but just dumping at this point!

 

[alxmlr789]

More as the drywall was being finished, AC going in, flooring/lift/ceiling/cabinets going up. (actually, the floor was done first, and then lift before all else as a I had a few jobs i needed to get done while waiting on myself to finish drywall and the remainder of the electrical)

 

[Metallitubby]

Looks great! Of course I am biased since the intended use for this project is a track toy.

 

[HPRifleman]

- Drywall done on walls, metal corrugated roof material as the ceiling

What was the reasoning for the steel ceiling as opposed to drywall?

 

[alxmlr789]

What was the reasoning for the steel ceiling as opposed to drywall?

Mainly cost and ease of install. I got all the ceiling panels for 300 bucks from a local overstock supplier and i installed myself. Drywall was nearly 2000 for just the ceiling before paint. I probably would have rather had drywall now, but i was so far over cash budget on this project i needed to shed cost where i could.

If i ever want to refinish, it’s just a ton of screws i need to remove. Lol

 

[wachuko]

Very nice build. Thank you for the recent update with photos.