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Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Mid-Century Moto Mecca Makeover

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All this talk about practicing the basics makes me wonder if you've tried trials... trials can provide a different perspective on riding. It demands balance, timing and rewards a smooth technique.

Diamond Mill is just across the highway and another spot we love to ride.

I've wanted a trials bike for a long time but the single purpose of it has kept me from ever getting one. I've been hoping that a good full size adult electric trials bike would show up on the market but so far that hasn't happened yet here. In Europe there's a few options but we haven't quite gotten one in the states. We have this section of drainage ravine across the road from us - too steep to build and so over grown you'd never be seen. I harbor a dream of cutting secret trails in there that I could ride and practice on. An electric trials bike would be perfect for that!

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I am rightly criticized by Jwoo for not getting projects done. Mostly done but never 100%. I'm working on that but my scattershot approach of darting from shiny object to shiny object never helps.

Case in point.

We're cleaning the house for Thanksgiving. I ordered a cord of wood and needed to straighten up the spot we keep wood so I start by splitting all the fir scraps from last years closet project. I can ignore things for quite a while but then, when I decide to deal with it I tend to go all in. It's hearing my father, "If you're going to do something, do it right." Knowing those are my two options I put off things until I can't put them off.

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That's thrift store axe head that I refinished last year. I find that I really like the "boys axe" size. It's just a bit bigger than a hatchet but smaller than a real man's axe so it's the most useful size. To me. A boy at heart.

Jwoo has asked me to make handles for the closets that I made last year. I'd not bothered as I couldn't decide on what style to make them and I liked them being naked. The wood settled over the last year and I've adjusted them to the point that they sit perfectly flush so now it's hard to open them. I need to make handles.

Since I haven't welded stainless in a while I decide that I should warm up and make a fireplace poker. I've been using a length of stainless rod that the cold saw grabbed when the vise wasn't tight and it ran a spiral of teeth bites down the length.

Of course once in the shop I start by cleaning up and putting tools away. I should end projects like that but instead I start them. To make the poker I need to turn a point and that requires the use of the compound slide which is always manual.

I decided to make a tool to make the tool before I make the thing. But out of stainless - you know, to warm up.

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I raid the stainless scrap bin for some tube and I measure the compound knob and draw up what looks like the worlds smallest triple clamps.

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The knobs aren't the same size but I make the parts symmetrical. Test fit looks good.

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I surprise myself by doing a good job on the very small welds. I'm getting much better at welding. I think doing the bumpers, then working on aluminum and going back to stainless - it's all informing each other and my feel is getting better.

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I put my little device into the drill and slowly spin my compound knob.

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And for the first time I can get a nice even finish on a taper. Yeah for diversions!

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So now I get to "practice" my stainless rod welding again.

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I'm a little disappointed that the rod has the chew marks all over it but then again it's a fireplace poker and it's a good step above the same rod that I'd left in the fireplace for the last year or so because I couldn't get myself to throw it away. Now every time I move a log in the fireplace I'll remind myself to make sure to tighten the cold saw vise. That's useful.

Okay, now I'm ready to do those closet pulls.

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I just bought a small lathe...totally building one of those tools to spin the compound knob.

Mine will be fillet brazed instead of welded as I work with the hot bronze glue gun method and not tig.
 

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TBH, I'm a little surprised you didn't knurl over the area where the chatter is... since it's on the grip end and all. Not being negative, just surprised you made it more like a mere mortal's work and not a "F'in Gregor" OTP project.
 
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TBH, I'm a little surprised you didn't knurl over the area where the chatter is... since it's on the grip end and all. Not being negative, just surprised you made it more like a mere mortal's work and not a "F'in Gregor" OTP project.

Meh. Sometimes I'll let a mistake just be. It serves as a reminder of the costs of being careless. And knurling stainless is hard. Besides, the chatter marks go the full length.

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So I'm trying to catch up on my photo work but I'm just about done which means I can put a bit of time into some shop projects.

One that I'm working a bit on here and there is the BMW. Since it came back from Jimmy Lewis lame I ordered a new starter and battery but haven't had the time to put them in. But one project that I've been pecking away at is making a new shifter.

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The stock one wasn't broken but was close. It had been repaired, was bent and loose and shifting was really sloppy and imprecise. I was thinking of bracing it and making a new bushing but the pivot was ovaled out and the heim bearings were another english thread part I wanted to be rid of.

I should just make a new one.

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I always think that I enjoy working in stainless so I figured I'd make one from stainless tube. It would be a good exercise in fitup and stainless welding I told myself.

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I always forget how unforgiving stainless is. Fitup has to be perfect and welding thin to thick is tricky.

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I managed to get it welded, not perfectly or prettily, but effectively. I ordered some metric rod end bearings to replace the english ones and instead of a bushing I used a needle bearing - the same kind that I used on the shifter linkage when I replaced that.

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I ordered a bolt from McMaster that turned out to be custom so that took a bit of time to show but I made the part based on the bolt drawing. I left the pivot end slightly undersized since I was worried that the welding might distort it and I wanted a nice press fit for the bearing. I used a boring head to take the shifter to size and then pressed the bearing in.

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I'd already made the knurled shift tube to replace the last one that was loose so I transferred that to the new shift lever. After adding a spacer on the back I got the shifter on with new rod end bearings and it's very tight. My plan was to move the pivot position on the shifter back so that it would take less movement to make the shift. BMW's have long throws and I'm always trying to make them a bit tighter and more precise. Hopefully this will work. If not I'll drill another hole closer to the axis on the shift arm out of the ******.

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EME sent me a new starter but I haven't put it in yet. I want to come up with a better breather set up before I replace the starter.

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I found a new rear diff from a newer bike. This one will have a disk brake so I made a call to Woody (Woody's Wheel Works) and he's going to make me a new set of wheels. He's been building me my wheels for maybe 15 years now - maybe longer. Woody sent me a hub pic of his billet hub:

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I'm torn about what color to do the rims and hubs. Ben says black, Woody says gold and when I do mock ups I love the look of black. But I always love black. As my first girlfriend in NYC told me: When in doubt wear black. Advice that has never failed me.

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Like any good prepper I've been hoarding gold. One of those sets is going on the new boxer. If the bike looked more retro maybe the gold rims would work.

I'll keep thinking on it but I need to move this into a higher gear as the bike's going to be in this years 1Moto Show. I'd like it to be fully dialed in by then.

Next up is some van work.

Gregor
 

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Meh. Sometimes I'll let a mistake just be. It serves as a reminder of the costs of being careless. And knurling stainless is hard. Besides, the chatter marks go the full length.

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I think your response to people who bring it up should be "I had to think long and hard how to get that decorative spiral down the length. Took me three tries to get it just right." :)
 

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Awesome work as always.

I have Woody's wheels on my HP2 for the last 8 years or so. I have his hubs which were anodized blue. The rear hub, which is in the sun when my shop door is open is very faded while the front is still bright blue. In general I have not had good luck with colored anodize and so now stick clear or black. And, with that I noticed even the hard (type III) anodize black I used on some roof racks has become grey over the years. YMMV.

Thanks for the motivation your project always provide.

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Awesome work as always.

I have Woody's wheels on my HP2 for the last 8 years or so. I have his hubs which were anodized blue. The rear hub, which is in the sun when my shop door is open is very faded while the front is still bright blue. In general I have not had good luck with colored anodize and so now stick clear or black. And, with that I noticed even the hard (type III) anodize black I used on some roof racks has become grey over the years. YMMV.

Thanks for the motivation your project always provide.

JP

Thanks.

And yeah, faded anodizing is a real *****. I have a set of wheels which one is dark gray and the other faded to bronze. At this point I almost feel like powder is a more certain solution. I have 20 year old powder coated parts that look as good now as they did then. Anodizing, not so much.

Gregor
 

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Black hubs, ******* and silver spokes and wheels. I keep buying new dirt bikes with black rims and they ****. I would much rather have silver wheels.
 
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So with a few weeks to Christmas and the attending road trips I wanted to knock off at least one of the van projects - the easy one. I've been carrying the spare tied in the back and while it's well secured it's taking up space that could be better used.

So, rear tire carrier.

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I've held off building it because I've been busy but also struggling with how to do it and resolve the taillight issue. Namely that if the tire is near the bumper but clearing the taillight it blocks the door. If you clear the door you block the tail light. I don't want to block the rear door because if I have to open the tire carrier every time I want to access the back I've lost the utility of the van.

I'd bought that Baja Designs strip light but wasn't finding a good place for it so I kept pondering. Finally I decided that if I just raise it up high enough it would clear the tail light. I pulled out the engine lift to test the theory.

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Now you might be saying this will be hard to get down. Sure. Flats ****. The extra foot this is high isn't going to make it worse or better.

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Aside from that one sketch I don't really have a plan. I'm going to hang the tire and try to build up to it. First I need a mount though. I bought a ring of 1/2" steel on eBay - I'm always amazed at how much metal is available there.

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Before I start drilling willy nilly I test the hole pattern of the DRO by putting a sharpie in the collet and running the program and just putting a dot down. I have very little Y travel on this mill so I have to be careful with the positioning.

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Then I made tinsel for the tree. Deadly sharp mild steel tinsel.

I'm fitting some wheel lug studs in the holes - just four. Considered doing 8 for aesthetics but then I slapped myself and did four.

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I want the tire to lean back slightly to follow the rear window. This looks better to me and also allows me room to sneak the 2" square tubing under. I keep cutting, test fitting, cutting, test fitting...

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I'll soon be able to realize my dream of an exotic pie cut square exhaust.

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I'm trying to keep my welds from pulling in ways that I don't want so I'm stitching it together back and forth. Carefully managing my heat and worrying every time I hear it ping after a weld.

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I've been posting on IG stories and I think a few people saw this "L" shaped arm and wondered if I was an idiot. To that I say, yes, but not in the ways you think. The first part, the L section, serves to position it. I put enough weld that it would hold the tire and wanted to see how much flex I got - a lot.

I've started the brace which will certainly give a lot of strength to the arm but the tire still is very heavy at 100lbs and I can see a bit of flex in the bumper. I did plan for that though.

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I'm going to make a small flat on the bumper that will take the main weight of the tire directly down into the bumper where it ties to the frame.

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I'll drill and tap the bumper and then on top of the aluminum I'll put some Delrin.

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Delrin is expensive. About $55 a square foot for 1/2" and Starboard is $17. I tried looking up the differences and from what I can gather Delrin is stronger are higher wearing. Either would probably work fine and I bought a foot of both. And then found a bunch of Delrin in the scrap section for $1.70 a pound and took all they had. That was a good score for the materials collection.

So the plan is to screw the aluminum to the bumper and then the Delrin to the aluminum block and machine a small lid to help lock the arm in place. I'll weld a catch onto the arm and an a latch to the bumper locking the tire into place. I'll position it flush to the arm with no weight so it will require a little lift to get it onto the plate. That should take the stress off the corner and the bearings and put most of the weight into the bumper at the frame mount.

Should.

Hopefully I'll have this finished in another couple of days.

Gregor
 

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Wow I was 167posts behind! LoL been sitting here taking care of some family and had some reading time. Great to catch up on the BMW project. I’m trying to finish my old HONDA and this provided much needed inspiration.
 

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following along on Instagram stories. The details behind what you are trying to solve explain all the design choices, looks great!
 
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Wow I was 167posts behind! LoL been sitting here taking care of some family and had some reading time. Great to catch up on the BMW project. I’m trying to finish my old HONDA and this provided much needed inspiration.

The BMW is sort of fun and frustrating at the same time. I'm looking forward to getting it together after the holiday and getting on the wheels.

How do you store your (assumed) terabytes of photos?

I'm using a Drobo 5D and I probably need another one. I have about 16TB of images in my professional work and another 3TB in personal which I keep backed up on multiple Seagate drives. I'd love to have a better solution but I don't.

following along on Instagram stories. The details behind what you are trying to solve explain all the design choices, looks great!

Yeah, this has been kicking my ***.

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My triangle was a pretty complicated part give how simple it is. It's held with two 8mm hex heads to the bumper drilled at an angle to the block but perpendicular to the bumper. Sorry, I don't have a photo of that but it was posted to IG stories I think. It's in the background of this shot.

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My new favorite tool is this drill tap combo. It seems like a late night infomercial sort of too - and I think I may have even seen it in an IG ad for that matter. This came from McMaster and the quality is great and it works really well.

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So this bump stop, topped with Delrin, will take most of the weight of the spare. It should do the job. Without the tire the carrier just skims the top.

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I can't tell you how many times I've gone back and forth to test fit this. It's not like you can draw it out - I guess you could in CAD. I should learn that. But not today.

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I keep cutting, fitting, cutting, fitting, testing and testing. I finally get here and it looks like this will work.

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I was using the Delta belt grinder pretty hard and at one point the thermal cut off cut off. I didn't know it had one so it took a while to figure this out. When I pulled the grinder out I was faced with the horror of the floor behind it. Metal dust mixed with water from when the garage flooded a couple of times a few years back created a nice mix of rusty dirt. I spent two hours scrubbing and cleaning this up.

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And continued to clean both the grinder and the cold saw. It felt good to get this cleaned up. I would say I've outgrown my small shop but the truth is that I started with more tools and bikes than could fit and I've only added to that. I need to get rid of more stuff and rearrange so that cleaning is easier. But not today.

Moving on.

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Some of my welds look pretty good and some less pretty but solid. I feel pretty confident in this. And hopeful that I'll finish it tomorrow.

Gregor
 

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Anyone that uses markers to highlight his rough, working sketch is a hero in my books....

Keep on keeping on Gregor. Always a pleasure to visit this thread!

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I know you like to do all this stuff, but i would have picked Zmotorsports brain. he has built a few spare tire carriers.

Thanks for the reminder. I love his thread and sometimes my subscriptions aren't working and I fall off. I went back through his projects thread and it was pretty inspiring. His level of fab is really high.

Anyone that uses markers to highlight his rough, working sketch is a hero in my books....

Thanks. Ever since I was a kid I wanted to draw in that way that product illustrators do with markers. So for my sketches I'm always playing with that.

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So I haven't posted because when I finished the carrier I mounted it up and it flexed. A lot. Not my carrier but the bumper as a whole. The rear bumper from MOVE wasn't designed as a winch bumper. My front bumper is 1/4" except for the wings so it's quite a bit stronger. The rear is 3/16" and not as boxed or braced.

I drove around for an afternoon and watched it. The flex was for and aft of the whole spare - maybe 1.5 - 2.5" at the top of the tire.
The cause is partly the bumper and partly the result of me building the carrier so tall to get the spare over the taillight. Flex is good if it's controlled - think of a planes wings or a bridge - because it's a way of distributing stress. It can also lead to failure.

I took the van to out pistol practice on Monday night and Scott and Ben looked at it and both were like, "Whoa. That's a lot of flex." Ben thought that if I just put foam behind it I'd be able to stop the bounce but I also heard through a few people on IG that they'd had carriers fail once they took the rig on trails and we're certainly not going to shy away from off road use.

I tried the foam and it worked but not well enough. I was pretty devastated that after all this work I'd basically failed.

Ben, always the sage of wisdom, said, "There's two ways to avoid failing; one is to not be ambitious and the other is to have a lot of experience." That encouraged me. Mostly because not being ambitious isn't possible for me and that this is just another experience I'd learn from. So I started doing a lot more research and thinking about what I could do turn this project around.

Since I didn't have as much experience I figured I'd look at who did or as Pablo Picasso famously said, "Good artists copy, great artists steal."

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When I tried Ben's idea of putting foam behind the carrier it worked until the door skin flexed enough and the foam came out. I considered bracing the back of the door and piercing the skin but it would have been tricky and complicated. When I looked for places to tie off the door hinges struck me as the logical place as they used pretty hefty hardware and the door frame was braced. It was also where Aluminess tied off their spare carrier so I knew it was going to be strong enough. I'd steal that idea thank you.

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With a pretty detailed drawing of the hinge I decided to build another plate that went on top and hugged the original.

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I could have built this bracket out and over the original pivot so that they were in line but I didn't feel like there was any point in doing that. If I'm changing a spare or opening the carrier the van is stopped - there's no dynamic forces to withstand. Better to keep the brace close when closed.

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Perhaps the hardest thing I've done was to weld this bracket on. The alignment is really close because the whole point is to brace the top weight of the carrier and tire - I don't want it to rattle. The weight is carried by the two points at the bottom but the flex is controlled by the bracket. Every weld pushed and pulled the alignment. The pin would slide through nicely, I'd weld and it would bind. I'd weld more in the opposite location and it would slide again - over and over, back and forth until it was done.

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So when the carrier is stowed the 1/2" pin drops through the two parts and locks the carrier in place. Another friend told me he'd had those latches (the one I used on the bottom) open on the trail so I wanted a secondary method of securing the spare. This also meant I could relieve the lip I'd put on the bottom catch plate since it was no longer the main anchor point. That lets the carrier close easier - perhaps enough that the gas strut will do its job.

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The pin I made from a scrap of 1/2" stainless and I welded a small cap on. I will probably put a small clip in the bottom to prevent the pin from bouncing out although I don't see that being possible.

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In what is probably a foreboding move I decided to paint the thing without testing fitting the tire...

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And to make it all seem of a piece I covered it in the bedliner again.

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I cleaned up the bearings, greased them and installed them for what I was hoping was the last time.

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There was a price for not test fitting the new setup. My brace just touches the tire when the tire is cinched down all the way. I suppose I could cut it back and plate it but given that I rotate the tires, including the spare, every 5,000 miles I don't think I'll be doing any damage to the tire.

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I got up on top of the tire to test for any flex or movement and it's incredibly strong. You can bounce all your weight on top of it and there's no flex. It is officially strong enough for any use including severe off road.

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And it doubles as Lucas' new favorite place to sit while I work in the garage.

I went from so low to so high with this one. Failing and then fixing the fail brings a great sense of accomplishment and restores my faith in myself. Something that everyone but me has lots of.

Next up I'll install the CB radio so Ben and I can keep in touch...

and I can have another reason to rewatch Smokey and the Bandit.

Gregor
 
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Nicely done as always!

You're the last person on earth imo that has no reason at all to not have faith in his own skills!!!

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Gregor,

Enjoy revisiting Smokey and the Bandit! Fun movie!!! I think everyone has self-doubt from time to time. Maybe it's part of what pushes us to try new things and to push on when epic fail time occurs. You have mad skills in many areas!

Joe
 

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Gregor this thread has been an inspiration to me since I found it a few years ago. Don't let a setback get you down too much. Learning from mistakes is still learning, and that's how we get better at everything.
 

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Yeah, I've always wanted to get a Ham license and now I guess you don't have to know morse code but it still seems pretty obtuse. I'm going to do more research on it. The main reason to get the radio is to be able to keep in touch with Ben or whomever while on the trail when there's no cell service.

I debated for a good day about where to mount the antenna. I wanted to do it up front but there wasn't really good options. The new rack had a spot that seemed perfect and, while the cable run was longer, it was an easier run from back to front.

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I made a bracket out of 1/4" bar stock and I drilled and tapped the spare arm but decided to do a threaded insert instead as the forces might be pretty high.

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Once I was happy with the test fit I sprayed it black and had to buy a 25' antenna lead because the van is longer than 18' - sheesh.

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With the antenna in place the pin was harder to get to so I bent and welded a loop onto the pin and greased it up and installed it. It pretty much drops in with barely a wiggle.

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The head unit was mounted under the console. It seemed to make the most sense and there's not much space on the dash.

So now we're ready for a road trip and the van can take a back seat for a bit until the The1MotoShow is done in February. The new bike will be in the show so I'm going to concentrate my time towards getting that one done and dusted.

Towards that end I decided to put all non running bikes into cold storage in my utility trailer. Along with any associated parts. I also put a bunch of junk on CL and sold it for next to nothing. I've found that if offer things for free you get a bunch of crazy people who hassle you hold things for them, don't show up, can't get there until next March etc. If you put a low price on things people will snap things up in minutes. So I made a few hundred bucks and saved myself a trip to the dump.

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So I'm midway getting the garage cleaned out. Some might have seen that I was looking at a Bridgeport last week. I wasn't too serious but my equipment dealer (like a drug dealer but worse) thought he could sell my mill and leave me with a $2000 difference. For $2k I'd make the space for a Bridgeport. If it comes to pass that would be great but I'll need to find a buyer for my mill first. If you know anyone looking for a Rockwell 21-122 Vertical/Horizontal send them my way.

That's all for now.

Gregor
 

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So I'm midway getting the garage cleaned out. Some might have seen that I was looking at a Bridgeport last week. I wasn't too serious but my equipment dealer (like a drug dealer but worse) thought he could sell my mill and leave me with a $2000 difference. For $2k I'd make the space for a Bridgeport. If it comes to pass that would be great but I'll need to find a buyer for my mill first. If you know anyone looking for a Rockwell 21-122 Vertical/Horizontal send them my way.

That's all for now.

Gregor

as I said on insta, can always find more room for good machinery, and a Bridgeport is right up there.
that Picture is stunning, as they are.
 

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Yeah, I've always wanted to get a Ham license and now I guess you don't have to know morse code but it still seems pretty obtuse. I'm going to do more research on it. The main reason to get the radio is to be able to keep in touch with Ben or whomever while on the trail when there's no cell service.
Gregor

This is my first time reading your thread, and the work and detail is just amazing Gregor! I am starting a new house/shop build on Skyline in the west hills of Portland, and there are so many amazing inspirations I have seen from your work. Thank you for taking the time to document and present everything in such an understandable way!

As for the ham radio license, it is surprisingly easy to get. Not only do you not have to know morse code, but the question set for the test is completely published (all 300 questions), so you can read and learn each question before you ever take the test. I would guess that for the kind of communications you are looking for doing VHF (so the Technician test) would be sufficient, as that allows to you use the larger number of repeaters to do communications when you are outside of cell range as well as point to point simplex. APRS is another great feature you can take advantage of when you are out on the trail, as it allows GPS based tracking. My wife really likes being able to look up my location online while I am out doing astronomy or long range shooting, even if I am out in the middle of Oregon. I'd be happy to talk you through any of the ins and outs if you are ever interested.

Thanks again for the fantastic inspiration!

Jeff (K7JBS)

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With the antenna in place the pin was harder to get to so I bent and welded a loop onto the pin and greased it up and installed it. It pretty much drops in with barely a wiggle.

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Will the new loop on the pin vibrate around, rubbing on the body of the van, possibly removing paint? Maybe rubber-coat the loop?
 

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Over the last three weeks I have been reading bits and pieces of this thread, just now coming to the current posts. As many have mentioned pretty much everything here is extremely impressive. I feel like as this thread went from topic to topic that it was covering all of my major interests, one by one. My wife is now sick of hearing about the Mid Century Modern Moto Mecha Makeover thread"as I have been calling it (alliteration anyone?) but she loves the house, camper and van pictures!

I couldn't help but notice the milwaukee m12 tools in the recent pictures. The few battery tools I have are milwaukee m18 tools. I was recently gifted a brushless m12 drill/hammerdrill & hex impact set. I haven't used them much yet, and was wondering how you have been liking the m12 tools.

Also about the spare tire carrier, can the carrier open now with the new antenna mount? It looks to me like swinging the carrier open would rotate the antenna mount right into the van body. Maybe I am looking at it wrong. Also I'm betting you have already cobsidered it, but if not you could add a spacer to the wheel mount to allevie the tire contracting the brace issue. Of course then you may need longer studs, and you are probably just ready to be done with it.

Carry on the excellent work and documentation, I love reading this thread and will be looking forward to updates here, whatever the topic may be.

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Also about the spare tire carrier, can the carrier open now with the new antenna mount? It looks to me like swinging the carrier open would rotate the antenna mount right into the van body. Maybe I am looking at it wrong. Also I'm betting you have already cobsidered it, but if not you could add a spacer to the wheel mount to allevie the tire contracting the brace issue.

The tire carrier hinge point is on the bumper- the hardware by the antenna is just a pin to brace the tire & arm against bouncing. The antenna is well clear of the tire swing. A big goal in this was keeping the tire parallel and very close to the door, so a spacer would be a bummer.
 

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Thanks Ben, I went and re-read the description of the hinge location support and think I understand better now. And that makes sense about not wanting to space the tire out. The spare tire on my van has the same issue I think. That is a tire mount that was designed and manufactured by a company selling vans, not by someone in there garage. So the "pros" do it as well.

Still interested to hear about the m12 tools gregor seems to use.

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Over the last three weeks I have been reading bits and pieces of this thread, just now coming to the current posts. As many have mentioned pretty much everything here is extremely impressive. I feel like as this thread went from topic to topic that it was covering all of my major interests, one by one.

Carry on the excellent work and documentation, I love reading this thread and will be looking forward to updates here, whatever the topic may be.

Thanks!

I'm not too bothered with the way the spare hits - it's not much. The pin doesn't rattle or bounce at all - it hasn't moved in the last 1500 miles. I made sure the tolerance was fairly tight so there'd be no rattle.

Still interested to hear about the m12 tools gregor seems to use.

I'm torn about the longer battery life and more power of the larger tools but Milwaukee sucked me in with a small hex driver that has been bullet proof for the last 7 years and still uses the same batteries. Nothing bugs me more than a system changing batteries and chargers. When my (very) old Hilti drill died I sold it on ebay for parts and made enough to purchase another small M12 drill. It's only purpose is to sit on the welder and spin tungsten electrodes for the sharpener. I'm pretty sure there's no one left in the world that spins a tungsten by hand and these cheap drills are perfect for this.

So overall I like the M12's but I'm not asking a lot of them in terms of power. I have my big Hilti for when I need to drill a large hole or a hole saw. I have about 7 or 8 M12 batteries and three chargers and so there's always plenty of fresh batteries. In fact I sold my two cordless Dremels who's batteries had failed and bought the Milwaukee M12 version so I'm now 4 tools in: 1/4" driver, rotary tool, 3/8' driver (which I LOVE) and the small 3/8" drill. That's the sort of thing that makes you slow down as you pass the Milwaukee display and it's very smart marketing. Plus I bought the cordless M18 grinder which I'm really starting to like even though it doesn't have too much power compared to a corded version. I'm sucked in.


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For those that follow my wife Jwoo on Instagram you saw she was taking her first ever trip back to Korea. In what can only be described as mean I was fully ready, prepped and packed with the house perfectly clean when she got home. I'd changed the oil in the van, rotated the tires and packed a cooler with road trip snacks. She got in at midnight and we left for Colorado the next day, 16 hour jet lag be damned.

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On my own I start motorcycle road trips at 6am but with a family it could never happen. I like to start family trips, not in the morning which I've discovered is a recipe for disappointment, but in the late afternoon. We manage to get the leaving part out of the way, the hardest thing to overcome, and then have dinner on the road and a hotel stay. The next morning we wake up in full road trip mode and have knocked a few hours off the trip. Momentum established.

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The other key to our road trip success has been an absolute no screen rule. In this day and age that seems impossible but our kids don't know any different. We listen to podcasts, draw, play and listen to music. Myths & Ledgends is highly recommended but we've graduated to adult podcasts which really makes selections easier.

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Nonetheless we take many breaks. It makes the trip longer but then, that's the point of the road trip isn't it? No amazing canyon or cliff is passed by. We stop at almost every rest area and we never eat at chains - a lesson from my father. Also, motels with pools. You can extract at least an extra hour or two of travel with the promise of a pool at night.

We're very lucky that our cat has proven to be a most perfect traveler. He walks on his leash, sleeps with the dog and purrs loudly in every hotel room happy to be included in the adventure.

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So above I mentioned I've already put 1500 miles on the spare tire and I'm happy to report that it's a complete success. The antenna is mounted to the brace so it swings out as well. I'm sad (or happy?) to say that there's practically no chatter on the CB. The few times the CB crackled was about road conditions or an accident and it has weather as well which has proved useful. The spare mount, however, has been bulletproof.

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To test the strength of the tire carrier we put the cat on it. No flex at all. I suspect we could put as many as two, three or perhaps even four cats on it. I'm quite pleased with the strength.

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In what started as a joke we were taking the fish to Jwoo's brother and I said, "Why don't we just take the fish too?" and Jwoo, sensing the ridiculousness of it with the kids cheering, said okay, much to the kids delight

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I'm going to have to admit that nothing makes a motel room seem more homey than a fish in a used Kimchi jar. You can't make this stuff up.

In Colorado, leaving Gunnison, we came to a State Patrol road block. Cars were being turned away as the chain/traction tire rule was in effect. Waved through we locked the hubs and as the snow got deeper we used the 4 wheel drive up and over Monarch Pass.

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I'll try to get another update in but internet is slow and weather unpredictable. Happy New Year and thanks for following along!

Gregor
 

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Happy New Year!
And welcome (back) to Colorado - I'll keep an eye out for the van
 
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I'm not fond of New Years Resolutions - I am far too ambitious (foolish?) to be limited by a plan made on one day - but I do like to remind myself of progress that I've made during the previous year(s) as a way of encouraging myself for the year ahead.

Since we're on a trip in our van it makes sense to look back at that.

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I took a chance on building a van that was a dream of mine for a long time. I don't think many people saw what I saw in the van but that's been a theme for me. In many ways I could see this next group of photos in my mind as I drove the old Homewood Suites Airport Shuttle van back from Tennessee.

I've wanted to take my kids to the Sand Dunes National Monument forever. It was a spring pilgrimage for us when we were kids but we'd come through the pass from Westcliffe. I'd still like to take the van that way but we still managed to get all the way back to the dunes.

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It, like most of my projects, isn't done and may never be but it's now fulfilling the vision I had of taking my family to amazing places off the beaten path. The kids just love the van and the attention it gets. I love seeing it out in the wild and thinking about the many people that it picked up from the Nashville airport and how far it's come. Much more than making something from scratch I love remaking something - seeing something others don't see and doing the work to reveal that.

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The van has been a beast in the snow. Yesterday we rang in the new year at Cottonwood Hotsprings dashing through a good foot of snow. It's weight can be both an advantage in that it finds traction everywhere and a disadvantage in that downhill things can go south quickly if you're not careful. It's been starting up in temps as low as 7F so far with no block heater but if we lived here it would be the first thing I'd put in. Overall I'm really happy.

I have more plans that are much more ambitious than the van and I like to remind myself that persistence can pay off. This is that reminder.

Gregor
 
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