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joetech

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Removed all Harbor Freight decaling from my new 5 drawer box. Have the US GENERAL if anyone wants it. PM me works best as I might not see replies. Thanks.
 

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Remove Lid Lock but Not Permanently

What a great epic thread! I have been reading this for years and never had anything to add. I have not seen this detail before so I hope it's a new one?

I wanted to be able to open the drawers with the lid closed. There are a number of people who have done this. But I wanted the ability to add that feature back in when wanted/needed.

First drill the 2 rivets out that hold the locking bar covers to the box. Then mark the spring loaded bar so it's even with the top of the box. Make sure the top does NOT contact the bar.

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The bar is then cut off and the rough edges smoothed off. The small piece of channel cut off is put back into the plastic cap. Push it all the way in until it bottoms out.

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Looking into the plastic cover with the cut portion inside.

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This is a test fit of the locking bar with the plastic cover installed. To check how high the plastic cap comes up.

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When you get done the inside of the box will look like this. The covers will be stored loose in the top of the box when not in use. Now regardless of the position of the lid the drawers will NOT lock.

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This what it looks like with the covers slid over the locking bars. Pretty much like it was before any modification. Now you are back to the factory setup and you must open the lid to unlock the drawers. The nice thing about this is the metal pieces in the plastic caps press on the metal locking bars so everything is still solid when locked.

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This did what I wanted and is very simple.
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Brilliant !!

Seconded!!:thumbup::thumbup:
Nice work clubairth!

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I'm finally getting close to picking up my 5 drawer cart.
Questions for the masses here.

1. What mods, besides caster upgrades and bottom reinforcement, is/are best done during or before the assembly process?

2. Anything you wish you'd done different to yours during the assembly process?

Thanks guys (and gals if there are any in this thread), I've read this thread from top to bottom but not in one sitting and a recent skim only gave me the two items I mentioned.
 

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The pretty standard ones.

Snap-on hinges.
Made the holes in the top tray slightly larger to accommodate a couple of engineers hammers.
Mounted the extension mast of my work light to the back so I always have light nearby.

Still needs organization. I’ve outgrown it and am working on plans for a Steve-O styled 44” workbench to take this messes place. 1860dde478d0fd008d6521a8b0af92c4.jpg


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The pretty standard ones.

Snap-on hinges.
Made the holes in the top tray slightly larger to accommodate a couple of engineers hammers.
Mounted the extension mast of my work light to the back so I always have light nearby.

Still needs organization. I’ve outgrown it and am working on plans for a Steve-O styled 44” workbench to take this messes place. 1860dde478d0fd008d6521a8b0af92c4.jpg


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I know it’s probably somewhere in this thread but what is the part number for those hinges? Much appreciated.
 

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cderalow

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The KRBC8T9 clip and hinge set is in stock at the Snap On website for $12.15 plus tax. FREE shipping right now. I have tried to buy this kit for a couple years and it’s never in stock.



I know it’s probably somewhere in this thread but what is the part number for those hinges? Much appreciated.


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158 pages is off the hook. How do I install the Snap On hinge set? I can’t find any good high resolution photos of this.

I tried to glean off of a few users photos but they are too small. My box won’t close with the hinges installed. Did you guys use spacers?
 
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158 pages is off the hook. How do I install the Snap On hinge set? I can’t find any good high resolution photos of this.

I tried to glean off of a few users photos but they are too small. My box won’t close with the hinges installed. Did you guys use spacers?

on my box, I used 1" long 1/4-20 bolts, flat washers, nylon locknuts and a pair of 1/4" long plastic spacers.

you'll need the additional holes as detailed back towards like page 3 or so. I want to say it's 5-1/4" from the back and 1-3/4" up from the bottom of the top tray.

for mine it's 1" bolt, washer, hinge, washer, upper strut point, washer locknut
1" bolt, washer, hinge, washer, 1/4" spacer, lower strut point, washer, locknut

if you zoom in close on my 2nd picture above you can see it above the hammer heads

I'm not sure how folks are mounting them on their 2nd generation ones as the strut mounting holes are in a different spot from my first generation
 

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How do I install the Snap On hinge set? I can’t find any good high resolution photos of this.

I've asked this before, so I guess a lot of owners are having their gas struts to fail or something? My 5-drawer is a few years old and mine still work just fine. The lid is not what I'd call heavy, so they don't have to hold up much.
 

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I've asked this before, so I guess a lot of owners are having their gas struts to fail or something? My 5-drawer is a few years old and mine still work just fine. The lid is not what I'd call heavy, so they don't have to hold up much.

It’s not so much of an issue with the struts failing.
It more has to do with wanting the lid to open fully.
 

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Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Couldn't you just move the mounting points for the struts?

Some tried and said it didn't work because of the "throw distance"... it either wouldn't open all the way and when positioned so it did... it wouldn't close... NOW... im saying this based on what I read when I did my modifications.

Also … to the poster that says it won't close with the Snapon hinges...

Is this 5 drawer a series 2 (new type)??? Just asking.
 

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It’s the older one. I bought this about six years ago. The struts failed after a year. I’ve just been propping it open with a stick.




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Can anyone send me a link to a set of 4 way casters that fit on there new boxes, i just picked up my new cart and ordered a set off of amazon but the mounting plate is way to small, the dimensions that amazon have made it seem like they would fit but nope. I’m trying to find 4 that all swivel with 2 that have brakes. Thanks guys


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Ok i circled back around and about 10 pages back i found these anyone found a set that’s not so steep that amount up without moding the box? 7a6d8073f6f62abc5d876694af809b0e.jpg

Oh just a heads up this coupon still worked the cashier took one look at it and said nope i have seen a sale add for that for a while i said can you please just scan it and check, she did was was shocked i said yep I’ll be taking one of those in black today as well [emoji106]e0a12419aaa2261f579cb38971125628.jpg


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Disregard my previous post fellas, i almost forgot what i already had siting around in storage. When i got my old trusty 44” box about a year ago i took the wheels off to put it under my workbench. Just found the box i through them in and did some comparisons, mounting plate is exactly the same size with the same hole locations, and the height is almost identical (the ones that came with the cart are probably like an 1/8” taller) i don’t think the height will make that much of a difference and if anything i could always add a spacer. Amazon wheels are getting returned and I’m keeping my cash in my pocket. 4 way swivel ca53e11df8067e18cf9612f249ab6b47.jpglocking casters WIN!!!

Caster on the right is what came with the service cart, on the left is what came with my 44” box. [emoji119]


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FYI, there’s a coupon that makes these carts $169 for all of 2019:
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Picked up one of these using the $169 coupon and a side shelf to match.

I thought the lift issue was with the 1st generation boxes because of the angle it was held at vs gen 2 boxes that are now at a 90?
 

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Bought an open box for 140, missing the handles and keys. Lock removed so I can try and source one. That's a Ford ****** key set with quiksteel putty in a 6in1 handle, bolted in as the lid handle. Anyone have a lock with keys? Also replaced struts with some Monroe's.a5b27abb57a5a29e2bbdac5023ced8c5.jpg

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Bought an open box for 140, missing the handles and keys. Lock removed so I can try and source one. That's a Ford ****** key set with quiksteel putty in a 6in1 handle, bolted in as the lid handle. Anyone have a lock with keys? Also replaced struts with some Monroe's.a5b27abb57a5a29e2bbdac5023ced8c5.jpg

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Oh great... now i gotta get old screwdriver handles for all my keys... :thumbup:
 

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I added a latch to the side shelf to keep the support from slipping out if the shelf is bumped. I tried the magnet trick but wasn't happy with how strong the magnets were that I bought.

It's pretty solid with 1 latch towards the front, I don't feel the need to add a second latch.

2 Set Stainless Steel Hardware Boxes Spring Loaded Toggle Latch Hasp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G9BENXY/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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