To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

He left a brand new spap on box

Status
Not open for further replies.

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
So one of my tenants moved out and left behind a brand new snap on box still on the skid. Not to mention a **** load if tools, welder, generator, welding tables, planer, old heavy duty vises, just loads of stuff.
What ya all think this box is worth?
 

Attachments

  • D20AA99B-E87B-4F32-A1B8-1ECEE5A52E41.jpg
    D20AA99B-E87B-4F32-A1B8-1ECEE5A52E41.jpg
    53.5 KB · Views: 783
Last edited:
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

JVB

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 27, 2014
Messages
742
Location
N.W. PA
Are they still in the process of moving everything ? Have you tried to contact them? Not sure on the laws in your area but I would look into it before you do anything with them.
 

d.mcfarland

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 18, 2012
Messages
6,579
Location
Western PA
For free .... anything is a profit. If you don't want it then list it for a song and let someone else get a steal of a deal and you get a load of cold hard cash.
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
Thanks for the info guys!

Yes I’m legal, he skipped out about 7 months ago and left everything behind. We’ve sent him many letters for him to come get his things and he never would. Our state says after 30 days it’s ours. We gave him a lot longer because he’d been a tenant for 15 years but enough was enough. We had a couple waiting on that unit for minths now and he knew that. He hadn’t paid since the month he moved out. I filled a 30 yard dumpster just from the junk he left behind in his apartment. The basement full of his tools is his payment for storage I guess.

One of the old vises is a Craftsman. I noticed it had removable plates in the jaws held on by two screws. Very large and heavy duty, with a flat area for hammering, too. I’ve tried to buy it iff of him for years. The other one I wanna say is “little” something made in Pennsylvania. It’s pretty large itself.

The mig welder is a Miller.

The welding table must weigh 400 pounds cause I couldn’t barely lift one side of it.

Don’t remember the generator ither than it said 6500 watts. My 20 year old son took it.

Several heavy duty metal storage bins with like 40 drawers each for nuts and bolts. I’m definitely relocating thise to my shop if I can make room.
Several heavy dury jacks, real old jacks that are orange and white.
A very large roll around tool box with several heavy duty drawers, doors, jacks on the bottom, with buikt in electric and air compressor gages.
Tons and tons of stuff really.
 
Last edited:

woody 73

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 14, 2009
Messages
11,546
Location
The Great State Up North
Shame I guess he had to leave it all behind; if by chance he had any vintage tools, (older then 50 years) please be sure and post lots of pictures in the vintage tool section that we can all see.
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
There was a large chest in his living room full if these very old and extremely heavy duty tools. I’d never seen anything like them before but I’m sure they were iver a 100 years old and obviously had came in a kit because the chest has boxes built in to hold specific parts of this tool kit. One look and I knew it was something he was collecting and holding on to. My wife gave them to my son to SCRAP!! I didn’t find out until a week later when it was too late. I did happen to grab this stubby pry bar out of it one night when I was prying up the floor that I was replacing. It has got to be the heaviest pry bar I’ve ever came across. Those tools had to have been worth a small fortune.
 
Last edited:

JVB

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 27, 2014
Messages
742
Location
N.W. PA
Littlestown pa is most likely the one vise you have. I had my local dealer run the serial before I bought a box. Not sure what they can do if it isn’t not paid for but could be a headache.
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
Shame I guess he had to leave it all behind; if by chance he had any vintage tools, (older then 50 years) please be sure and post lots of pictures in the vintage tool section that we can all see.

We were typing at the same time. The vintage tools my wife gave my son is what bothers me the most. I bet they were the mist valuable of it all. She just thought they were old and worthless.
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
Littlestown pa is most likely the one vise you have. I had my local dealer run the serial before I bought a box. Not sure what they can do if it isn’t not paid for but could be a headache.

Yup that’s what it is. Are they quality?
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
Shame I guess he had to leave it all behind; if by chance he had any vintage tools, (older then 50 years) please be sure and post lots of pictures in the vintage tool section that we can all see.

He didn’t have to. He’s an old drunk that just doesn’t care. He moved 5 miles away and works a half mile away from the apartment. I offered to help him move his things and he still wasn’t interested. He paid cash for his new house (or so he told me) and I believe him. He makes good money and just spent his time drinking and buying expensive tools that I never seen him even use. Honestly I think it boiled down to he couldn’t stay sober long enough to get his stuff.
 

CJM8515

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 8, 2014
Messages
9,303
Location
NJ
Located anywhere near NJ? I have more than a few people who would jump on possibly some of that
 

protegeV

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 18, 2018
Messages
13,363
Location
DFW
Damm, that's a crazy story. Sounds like you got a little bonus for your frustration.
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
Nowhere near NJ.

Honestly, it doesn’t matter to me if there is a lean on it. That’d be his problem and not mine. But I highly doubt there is. It’s been in that basement for at least 4 years that I know of. The attorney said according to state laws, we own it all and have the right to sell or dispose of it as We see fit. So if he owes on it, that’s between him and SO. I now own the box.

There was one tool chest full of air tools, bearing pullers, tap and die sets, wrenches from 1” and up. He was a heavy equipment mechanic for like 30 years. The amount of hardware aline (nuts, bolts, screws, etc) is mind boggling.

I’ll grab some more pics tomorrow when I’m back working in that apartment.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
Damm, that's a crazy story. Sounds like you got a little bonus for your frustration.

Oh he definitely left me a mountain of work. He trashed the place. He didn’t notify us of leaking pipes which rotted the floor so I’m having to replace several sections of flooring, drywall patching, hafta install new laminate flooring all throughout, new toilet and tub/shower, basically everything. There had to be 500 empty beer cans laying in the living room alone. And 20 full contractor bags of smashed beer cans in the basement. And the smoke stench is overwhelming to say the least. He’s the last tenant we have that smokes and I’ll make sure we’ll never have another one.
 
Last edited:

Magnum440d100

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 2, 2018
Messages
3,581
Location
Indiana
I wanna believe this happened, but it is a hard thing to believe.

I do know a drunk. Not a guy who drinks excessively, but an absolute drunk. A liquid breakfast of fireball drunk. Lunch? Jack Daniels. Dinner? Whatever he can get.

He squandered a few hundred thousand dollars in a couple of years.

The guy is not stupid. He can work and does work. But he gets let go because he drinks too much.

One thing I know for sure though, is he would NOT leave any of his stuff anywhere.... Unless he were dead....
 

ngk22r

Well-known member
Joined
May 28, 2010
Messages
1,589
Location
AZ
Nowhere near NJ.

Honestly, it doesn’t matter to me if there is a lean on it. That’d be his problem and not mine. But I highly doubt there is. It’s been in that basement for at least 4 years that I know of. The attorney said according to state laws, we own it all and have the right to sell or dispose of it as We see fit. So if he owes on it, that’s between him and SO. I now own the box.

There was one tool chest full of air tools, bearing pullers, tap and die sets, wrenches from 1” and up. He was a heavy equipment mechanic for like 30 years. The amount of hardware aline (nuts, bolts, screws, etc) is mind boggling.

I’ll grab some more pics tomorrow when I’m back working in that apartment.

Except for the fact that if the guy owed Snap-on for that box, they technically own it and it is a serialized property.

You really have a lot of stories....
 

kctyphoon

Banned
Joined
Jun 9, 2014
Messages
9,102
Location
Jersey/Staten Island
Lmao. The vultures dont take long when they sense opportunity.. here's my take on this...

To be fair here - you can get any answer you want from a lawyer when you only provide selective Information.

If you call a lawyer and say - "a guy left a tool box behind" and that's the extent of the details provided, he's giving you the best guess of the situation with the limited info provided.

If a guy stole $5k from a bank, left it in your basement with a serial number on the money - and moved out - I hardly think a lawyer would tell you, "that stolen money is now yours free and clear" cause the fact it was left in your basement negates the fact it was stolen in the first place.

If somebody left behind a car that was being financed in your garage - you wouldnt just now "own the car" cause it wasn't paid off in the first place. It wasn't the Tennant's to leave behind legally speaking. He should have turned the car in. Good luck registering that new car..

Listen - I'm not judging, you do what you want. It's a ****** tool box.. BUT - that said - if it's not paid off, then he didn't own it in the first place.. at best, in a legal sense - you may have just recovered stolen property. I think the legal line would be crossed if you "become aware it's not paid for", so I'd think twice before you just run a serial number with snap on depending what YOU plan on doing here. I'm not so sure I'd "go out of my way either" - but I'd realize 2 things.. if the Tennant didn't die - then HE knows where it is.. if you sell it - you may seriously **** the guy buying it.

So you have choices -
Keep it, and know the serial number can't turn up to snap on - and you'll have to lie about having it if anyone ever comes asking for it. You'd have say - I sold it, wtf do I know or care about who owned the box - it was left in my house and I sold it to a nameless person off Craigslist for $200. It sold in an hour.

Sell it --. You not knowing its not paid for and selling it isn't a crime - but realize the guy buying can get fucked in the future, and wind up with no money and no box. If he's s pro mechanic and tries to warranty something 2 years down the road, it may not work out for him. If he's smart - he would run the serial number before buying it. If he tells you "it's not paid for, I'm not buying it cause they can repo it" - you are now "AWARE" someone else actually owns claim to that box.

Contact snap on - and find out what the deal is. maybe it was paid for, (I doubt it) and maybe you own it now., But if the guy owed money, snap on is probably gonna want it back. So think about if you would let them have it, IF there's money owed before you call.

Or destory every serial number on the thing - and keep it or sell it at a huge discount disclosing to the "friendly" buyer "I FOUND it like this" so you'll never be able to use a serial number, therefore it's now 75% off, and you're on your own as soon as it leaves here. Don't call me.

The likelyhoood of you being persued for the money is probably remote. The buyer is responsible for the money to snap on, if the box is not paid off and the box just dissppears. If the box is found, and isnt paid for - snap on has a claim to it. If you sell it - and somebody gives the SO the serial number - THEY may get screwed. What's legal, what's right, and what will happen in reality are all different things.. but just insisting "I now own this" when the buyer many not have paid for it in the first place, may not change snap on from saying "NO - ya don't own it - cause WE do"..

Sometimes ignorance is bliss. That's all I'm saying. But I wouldnt knowingly **** somebody OTHER than somebody who fucked me first.

I don't care about snap on, I don't care about some guy that left a huge mess for me to deal with - but I do care about someone who never did anything to me.
 
Last edited:

kctyphoon

Banned
Joined
Jun 9, 2014
Messages
9,102
Location
Jersey/Staten Island
Just to make that more simple -
You probably have a legal claim over HIS property. But what about property that WASNT his to begin with.
If he did the neighbor a favor, let the neighbor keep his motorcycle in the basement, neighbor says - my bike was in the basement - you gonna tell the neighbor "NOPE - the lawyer said it's mine now". The neighbor owns the bike - it just happened to be left in your house, that you rented to somebody. This is the problem with being a landlord. Sometimes you get screwed.
 
Last edited:

Bigblockyeti

Banned
Joined
Feb 1, 2018
Messages
2,550
Location
Upstate, SC
I would not run the serial number by SO, if you do not, you then have plausible deniability. If you do and it's not paid for, it becomes a bigger (potentially legal) problem for you should you still choose to keep or sell it.
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
The guy isn’t dead. We’ve spoken with him on the phone many times over the past few months and he’s always got some different excuse on why he couldn’t get his stuff. We called him three times the week prior to us throwing away his stuff in an effort to warn him that time had run out.

The tool box is locked and I have found no Key for it. I may just push it in the corner and sell it back to him when he does finally come around. He’s cost me thousands in damages and losss of rent so he owes us. But I’m undecided how to handle the box.

My teenage daughter is more mature than some of the dumbasses here.

Nothing I’ve said on this site is far-fetched or untruthful. There is no gain for me in anything I’ve said. Grow up...
 
OP
I

Iluvbeer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
201
Location
Behind the house
And I’ve had my integrity questioned here a bunch for no reason and told I’m lying. Big deal that I’m helping out a former rodeo champ. Not like there aren’t many of them out there. Who cares that he’s well to do and does his own mechanicing. Nothing unusual there either.
I’ve been told the chic in the pic isn’t my wife. Don’t understand that either unless it’s just jealousy. She’s been my wife for a long time.

Now I’m being called a liar because a tenant moved out and left lots of expensive things behind. That happens to landlords a lot. I’ve had many tenants leave behind furniture, tvs, lots of things actually. Nothing unusual there either.

I would love to prove to many of you that what I say is true but unfortunately that comes with giving up my location and I don’t like to do that for many reasons.
But there are some things I can prove without giving up my location. I’ve snapped some pics of the junk he left behind as well as a pic of me in front of that SO box. You’ll notice that I’m the same guy in the pic with my beautiful wifey.
 

Attachments

  • B7314802-4D86-47F0-B707-7DEAC487B7C7.jpg
    B7314802-4D86-47F0-B707-7DEAC487B7C7.jpg
    21.5 KB · Views: 52
  • 03769307-857D-4855-AC39-CDB6DE28BD48.jpg
    03769307-857D-4855-AC39-CDB6DE28BD48.jpg
    88.9 KB · Views: 224
  • AC91222F-9829-4110-8481-3F1EED7541D4.jpg
    AC91222F-9829-4110-8481-3F1EED7541D4.jpg
    149.4 KB · Views: 208
  • 262E6495-0F7B-49A3-9752-C198BC25CCFB.jpg
    262E6495-0F7B-49A3-9752-C198BC25CCFB.jpg
    146.7 KB · Views: 211
  • 17976010-421D-41E3-9257-2E5777DEBA0D.jpg
    17976010-421D-41E3-9257-2E5777DEBA0D.jpg
    149.3 KB · Views: 207
  • 570370FC-790C-4BA8-A7BD-F6CBC83D4406.jpg
    570370FC-790C-4BA8-A7BD-F6CBC83D4406.jpg
    151.7 KB · Views: 198
  • FF593701-FE1D-455B-8375-92287A6E97C1.jpg
    FF593701-FE1D-455B-8375-92287A6E97C1.jpg
    153.8 KB · Views: 197

trackwelder

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 22, 2005
Messages
2,608
Location
n.y
I wouldn’t call anyone the stuff is yours. You did more than I would have. Check out YouTube for a video on how to open the toolbox, it’s easy.
 

ngk22r

Well-known member
Joined
May 28, 2010
Messages
1,589
Location
AZ
Just to make that more simple -
You probably have a legal claim over HIS property. But what about property that WASNT his to begin with.
If he did the neighbor a favor, let the neighbor keep his motorcycle in the basement, neighbor says - my bike was in the basement - you gonna tell the neighbor "NOPE - the lawyer said it's mine now". The neighbor owns the bike - it just happened to be left in your house, that you rented to somebody. This is the problem with being a landlord. Sometimes you get screwed.

This
 

protegeV

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 18, 2018
Messages
13,363
Location
DFW
I think the primary lesson to be learned is don't post stuff like this on the internet.
Opinions are like assholes and all that....
 

protegeV

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 18, 2018
Messages
13,363
Location
DFW
Thanks and you’re right. Some people are just miserable in their life and have nothing better to do than to try and bring other’s down, too. I’m just gonna ignore the negative people from now on.

rZ8atCj.gif
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom