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i went into sears today to browse, and i looked at there new tool section to check a few new (innovative) things from them and i saw

a set of black spline combo wrenches 6pcs advertised with a bonus wrench

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00914018000P?vName=Tools&keyword=00914018000P|00914019000P


and then i tested out there new ratcheting combo wrench with ratcheting open end...

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00914756000P?vName=Tools&keyword=ratcheting+wrench

i tested both, the spline combos are not that great because it is loose over the square head bolt, the ratcheting open ends worked pretty good...

but both sets were MADE IN CHINA.....craftsman tools made in china...means something isnt right.
 
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Yes, Armstrong, you can find great deals on new sets on eBay.

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mickey I think he meant ratcheting OPEN end. I cant really help you there, I know the Cornwells are chinese too
 
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all craftsman wrenches are not made in china. sheesh. there are craftsman ratcheting wrenches that are usa. just check the packages before you buy.
 
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comedyman809 said:
does any other tool company make ratcheting open ends like these or better made in USA????
the tool itself i can find a lot of uses for as it really ratchets and its an open end which is very nice.
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Sorry, NO. The dual ratcheting open end design is actually from Danaher, specifically Gearwrench. I'm told the Gearwrench version will hit stores and online vendors around June. Gearwrench passed out samples at last year's SEMA show.
I know many people are upset about the Craftsman name appearing on a hand tool from China but as I said last year, at least sears didn't try to hide it the small print on the package.
 

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Well the ratcheting open end is exactly like the Craftsman Quick Wrench they sold a few years back. I bought a set of these about 10 years ago and I still have them. I like them because they are like a poor mans ratcheting line wrench (just break it loose first with a flare nut wrench). If you want a US made set you can still get set of the old quick wrenches on ebay for about $20 to $30. Unfortunately, no ratcheting box end though.
 
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Well the ratcheting open end is exactly like the Craftsman Quick Wrench they sold a few years back. I bought a set of these about 10 years ago and I still have them. I like them because they are like a poor mans ratcheting line wrench (just break it loose first with a flare nut wrench). If you want a US made set you can still get set of the old quick wrenches on ebay for about $20 to $30. Unfortunately, no ratcheting box end though.
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Actually it's a different open end from the quick wrenches. On the dual ratcheting end wrench the open end has a steel pin that moves into the jaw as the wrench is rotated. You can barely see it on the right side in the picture. There were no moving parts on the open end of the quick wrench.
 

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My bad. I never saw that little pin when I looked at them in the store. I just saw the indention on the open end and it looked like a quick wrench to me.
 
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comedyman809 said:
i went into sears today to browse, and i looked at there new tool section to check a few new (innovative) things from them and i saw

a set of black spline combo wrenches 6pcs advertised with a bonus wrench

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00914018000P?vName=Tools&keyword=00914018000P|00914019000P


and then i tested out there new ratcheting combo wrench with ratcheting open end...

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00914756000P?vName=Tools&keyword=ratcheting+wrench

i tested both, the spline combos are not that great because it is loose over the square head bolt, the ratcheting open ends worked pretty good...

but both sets were MADE IN CHINA.....craftsman tools made in china...means something isnt right.
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I see this and "what rock have you been under" comes to mind.

I crossed the boarder and got a set of the black spline combo wrenches and they seem good enough for what they do to me.

Yesh, I wonder what you guys will do when China buys the Usa :lol_hitti
 
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going through stuff i inherited, is a set of 1/2 drive impact sockets from 70s-80s... "CRAFTSMAN (model #) (size) TAIWAN" i was kind of surprised that that long ago it wasn't USA
 
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mikevango said:
all craftsman wrenches are not made in china. sheesh. there are craftsman ratcheting wrenches that are usa. just check the packages before you buy.
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Just purchased some.......made in the USA. Can't tell you how good or bad they are yet........but I did have to take back a 10mm straight out of the package, could not lock-in any angle. Also have a 17mm that felt a little rough at first, but now seems to be ok??? for now.......will take it back the first time it acts up on the job.
 
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As far as I know, this is how Craftsman wrenches break down right now:

Made in China:
  • Universal wrenches (spline drive)
  • Dog-bone wrenches (eight sockets on one wrench)
  • Dual ratcheting wrenches (i.e., with the ratcheting open end)
  • Elbow wrenches (box end rotates)
  • Presumably the Craftsman version of the GearWrench QuadBox (dunno what they call these; they're basically the same but black)

Made in the U.S.A.:
  • All standard (raised panel) wrenches (with six- and twelve-point box ends).
  • All Craftsman Professional full-polish wrenches.
  • All sockets, ratchets, and impact sockets that I'm aware of (aside from Evolv junk).
  • Professional offset wrenches (don't think they have a non-Professional line of these).
  • Standard and Professional line wrenches.
  • Professional stubby wrenches (don't think they have a non-Professional line of these either).
  • Flat and offset ratcheting double-box-ended wrenches.
  • Standard and ratcheting cross-beam wrenches ("Crossforce"; cf. GearWrench's "X-Beam"). These are nicer than GearWrench's because they have a 15-degree offset (which means the ratcheting ones are, necessarily, reversible) and are made in the U.S.A.
  • Reversible (full-polish) and non-reversible (raised panel) ratcheting combination wrenches. The non-reversible are nicer than GearWrench's because they have "OFF" and "ON" marked on each side. And they're made in the U.S.A.
  • Flex-head ratcheting combination wrenches. These are nicer than GearWrench's because there's a widget that locks the head in place and they're made in the U.S.A.
  • Ratcheting flex-head stubby wrenches.

The now-discontinued Craftsman quick wrenches were made in the U.S.A. too.

I think it's funny how accepting this forum is of GearWrench, which, as far as I know, makes everything in Taiwan yet how critical the consensus is against Craftsman, which, in all fairness, still provides a pretty good selection of American-made tools for the masses. I guess it's all about brand expectations.
 
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jcfields said:
As far as I know, this is how Craftsman wrenches break down right now:

Made in China:
  • Universal wrenches (spline drive)
  • Dog-bone wrenches (eight sockets on one wrench)
  • Dual ratcheting wrenches (i.e., with the ratcheting open end)
  • Elbow wrenches (box end rotates)
  • Presumably the Craftsman version of the GearWrench QuadBox (dunno what they call these; they're basically the same but black)

Made in the U.S.A.:
  • All standard (raised panel) wrenches (with six- and twelve-point box ends).
  • All Craftsman Professional full-polish wrenches.
  • All sockets, ratchets, and impact sockets that I'm aware of (aside from Evolv junk).
  • Professional offset wrenches (don't think they have a non-Professional line of these).
  • Standard and Professional line wrenches.
  • Professional stubby wrenches (don't think they have a non-Professional line of these either).
  • Flat and offset ratcheting double-box-ended wrenches.
  • Standard and ratcheting cross-beam wrenches ("Crossforce"; cf. GearWrench's "X-Beam"). These are nicer than GearWrench's because they have a 15-degree offset (which means the ratcheting ones are, necessarily, reversible) and are made in the U.S.A.
  • Reversible (full-polish) and non-reversible (raised panel) ratcheting combination wrenches. The non-reversible are nicer than GearWrench's because they have "OFF" and "ON" marked on each side. And they're made in the U.S.A.
  • Flex-head ratcheting combination wrenches. These are nicer than GearWrench's because there's a widget that locks the head in place and they're made in the U.S.A.
  • Ratcheting flex-head stubby wrenches.

The now-discontinued Craftsman quick wrenches were made in the U.S.A. too.

I think it's funny how accepting this forum is of GearWrench, which, as far as I know, makes everything in Taiwan yet how critical the consensus is against Craftsman, which, in all fairness, still provides a pretty good selection of American-made tools for the masses. I guess it's all about brand expectations.
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Its been discussed on here before, but I'm pretty sure the general census on all brands of ratcheting wrenches is the ratcheting mechanism is actually made in Taiwan.
 
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I went to Sears yesterday for a couple of storage solutions and a few exchanges.
One of my exchange items was their high end hacksaw frame from years past.
I was disappointed they no longer carried the same model, guess I'm outa' touch.
I asked the sales rep. which of the three models would be an acceptable replacement, he said take your pick, didn't matter to Sears.
I chose the most expensive, and most substantial looking one.
Once I had it off the rack and in my hand I detected the "Made in China" on the handle casting. That was the beginning of the end, I got it all the way to the check-out counter where I compared its function and features to my worn and slightly disabled USA model.
I elected to go home with an old friend, put some more tape arround the handle inserts when needed and leave "Made in China" in the store.
Hopefully things will come arround and a USA model will be available in the future.
I looked at the multi wrenches and their packageing as I was walking through,
I too believe they made a effort to bury the "Made in China" in their presentation. Sad...
 
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Nah you just owe then the whole place in debt. You don't have a red flag with gold star yet!
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Personnally the US should file bankruptcy and leave China with nothing, which is only equivalent to China's manipulating of the dollar, so why not pay them back for undercutting the economy anyways. I think if you dig down deep enough you'll see that economy has fallen in upon itself and many blame the housing loan market and the defective COD formula for turning class BBB investments into class A investments. But what is much worse is the financial house of cards China built in out country by playing games with the value of the dollar, there by building a house of cards that turned into a sink hole that now pulls money into it from our pockets.

So if we have an actual employment rate of 66% that means those of us who are still employed are carrying even more. Now add to this that the credit card banks receive a bail out at our expense and then double/triple whammy us with fees and interest rates on the balance, this to me equals going to the evil proctologist who you then find out after they start the exam that they are infact the IRS and you now know the feeling that they are now past the elbow.

TheGrooveking
 
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