Appropriate Device ring cover size for 5/8" Sheetrock

[teamextreme]

One of the things I love about this site is the lack of petty ********, name calling, **** measuring contests, etc. Not sure why this thread has devolved into that, but it's disappointing, especially between members who both regularly offer valuable input here and are clearly very knowledgeable. In other words, knock it off.

 

[Jim greengo]

Okie dokie.

 

[dogdog]

I just see it as an active discussion... good info... I have always been select the mud ring base on the drywall thickness (just like what Jim greengo does) and had no issues when everything is straight and level... only had problem when those studs are less than straight.. or I have used double layer drywall and sound boards... Not sure if this 1/8 is industrial knowledge some how unspoken or what not, definitely haven't seen it anywhere in their literature..

It only turns into "petty ********, name calling, **** measuring contests" when some one turns into an adolescent school girl (not my term but it's been mentioned) and can't handle or accept any truth or criticism, comments he/she dislikes and doesn't want to hear about.... and that happens in any conversation... especially when they get encouragements to act up from other adolescent school girls..

 

[branimal]

You first need a floor plan with electrical outlets (lighting and recepts) and switches established. This will help ensure you meet code before starting work than rather having to add/change after all installed.

Then determine cable routing into/out of each box as needed. Based upon the routing you will be able to calculate the box fill which tells you the minimum box size needed. You can then also get a count on mudrings needed.

Always order more, but know what you need first. (Plan the work, work the plan.)

Thanks! I was just going to wing it spacing the outlets at tighter intervals than what's required by code (more outlets, not less). And in just about every convenience space I can think of. But coming up with a circuit plan is a better way to approach it.

That said, I'm ordering mostly the deep boxes and some standard 1 1/2". MY fingers will thank me later.

 

[alfredeneuman]

It only turns into "**** measuring contests" when some one turns into an adolescent school girl ..... especially when they get encouragements to act up from other adolescent school girls..

Adolescent girls don't have dicks.
The other school girls are all professional electricians.
The reason why they won't "accept truth" is for this reason alone.

 

[dogdog]

Adolescent girls don't have dicks.
The other school girls are all professional electricians.
The reason why they won't "accept truth" is for this reason alone.

LOL not referring to the people on this thread... but good to know schools girls are all professional electricians

 

[dogdog]

Thanks! I was just going to wing it spacing the outlets at tighter intervals than what's required by code (more outlets, not less). And in just about every convenience space I can think of. But coming up with a circuit plan is a better way to approach it.

That said, I'm ordering mostly the deep boxes and some standard 1 1/2". MY fingers will thank me later.

This might be of interest to you but the language used sounds Gibberish to me .

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/buildings/codes/ecric-code-interpretations-2016.page

Section 210.52(A) - (2/3/2016)

Section 210.52(A) outlined required receptacle spacing for dwelling unit such that no point measured horizontally along the floor line in any wall space is more than 6 ft from a receptacle outlet. It also defined wall space in 210.52(A)(2) as any space 2 ft or more in width and unbroken along the floor line, space occupied by fixed panels in exterior walls, and space afforded by fixed room dividers. The NEC handbook includes the following in section 210.52(A) "The word usable does not appear at all in 210.52 as a condition for determining compliance with the receptacle spacing requirements. As an example, to correctly determine the dimension of the wall line in a room, the wall space behind the swing of a door is included in the measurement. This does not mean that the receptacle outlet has to be located in that space, only that the space has been included in the wall-line measurement."

Does an opening in floor (doorways, fireplaces and similar openings) resets the receptacle placement requirement such that each unbroken wall space is considered as an individual separated wall spaces and that receptacle is needed in each individual separated wall space?
A wall is separated by (2) doors such that the wall space between the doors is 2'-0", does this section of the wall required dedicated receptacle? Does a receptacle 1'-0" from the edge of the other side of either door meets the intent of the code such that any point on the 2'-0" wall is no greater than 6'-0" along the floor line from a receptacle?
A wall include a bump out in the center, the bump out is measured along the floor line such that is it 1'-0" depth and 2'-0" width. The walls to the left and right of the bump out are 4'-6" each. Is 1'-0" depth floor lines required in the wall space calculation as it is less than 2'-0"?
A receptacle is place 1'-0" away from the handle side of the door opening. The wall space for the wall behind the door swing is 2'-0". Is a receptacle needed on the 2'-0" wall?

Yes.
Yes. This is a separate wall space and requires a receptacle. No, a receptacle that is 1'-0" from the edge of the other side of either door doesn’t meet the code intent.
Yes.
Yes, if the wall space in question is a separate wall space.

 

[alfredeneuman]

LOL not referring to the people on this thread... but good to know schools girls are all professional electricians

Well, I've got apologize then. The post referring to "**** measuring" was originally posted by another member, who mentioned that this thread had devolved into that.

Edit: In addition to their school, they are all lifetime and licensed electrical contractors, and good at what they do.